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Which of these characters who can control time win in an all out battle?

I am almost positive this has been made before.

Ultimecia wins. Probably. I guess.

I did the search but it picked up nothing.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I am almost positive this has been made before.

Ultimecia wins. Probably. I guess.

The two fought each other in a thread with the two verses but I don't recall.

But yes, Ultimecia does win. Probably.

Ah, right.

It was Ultimecia and Neo Exdeath vs. Dialga and Palkia, IIRC.

Ultimecia ftw.

I think you'd have to kill Dialga before Ultimecia could compress time.

Ultimecia compresses time, which is Dialga's heart.

How is it Dialga's heart? The two are connected, not one in the same.

"It is said that time flows when Dialga's heart beats. "

I know this.

What I don't know is how that makes the two one in the same.

Well if Dialga's heart stops beating, what do you think that would do to time?

Roar of Time is a giant sneeze. Awesome.

Stops time. Yeah.

That doesn't mean the two are one in the same. It just means they're connected. XD You're just assuming they're the same thing.

Naming my Dialga "Boogerman."

Cool, so they're connected. What happens when Ultimecia compresses time? What kind of effect will that have on Dialga's heart?

Shut up Aura.

Well, I think that Dialga's heartbeat is a kind of fuel that keeps Time moving forward, with it's presence allowing Time to exist. So you'd have kill Dialga to stop time and compress it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shut up Aura.

This feels misplaced to me. mmm

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well, I think that Dialga's heartbeat is a kind of fuel that keeps Time moving forward, with it's presence allowing Time to exist. So you'd have kill Dialga to stop time and compress it.

Why does time need to be stopped? If time is stopped, Dialga's heart would be stopped.

Dialga's heartbeat causes time to flow. The flow of time flowing doesn't necessarily cause Dialga's heart to beat.

I think that is what Lil' Moozy is getting at.

If Time is still flowing how can she compress it? Figuratively speaking, compressing in this case would involve pushing the two ends of the line together. If the one end is still pushing outwards, can she still do it? And if so, couldn't Dialga just use his powers to speed up time and make it push against Ultimecia harder?

Originally posted by StyleTime
Dialga's heartbeat causes time to flow. The flow of time flowing doesn't necessarily cause Dialga's heart to beat.

I think that is what Lil' Moozy is getting at.

And yeah. That wasn't clear?

Ultimecia can always cast slow and make Dialga slow. Or haste to make it fast. Since Dialga fuels time, whatever she does to it will affect time.

Or poison him. :O

Then I would like to point out that Dialga can send Ultimecia anywhere in Time, making it fairly difficult to do anything with spells.

Dialga also has plenty of moves to inflict the same status ailments and protect himself from them.

Oh, and Dialga may be immune to Poison. Steel types have that going for them.

But what does time exactly do for Dialga? Unless there's something stupid like it bleeding space-time from its veins, compressing time doesn't really hurt it.

If anything, Dialga's heartbeat alone cancels out Ultimecia's TC powers or something....I don't know!

Yet another reason why I think gen 3-5 are kind of dumb.

Um, Ultimecia should already be in her Time Compressed, universe nomming form.

Then Dialga would have had to already be dead. So this thread is over before it began.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Then I would like to point out that Dialga can send Ultimecia anywhere in Time, making it fairly difficult to do anything with spells.

Dialga also has plenty of moves to inflict the same status ailments and protect himself from them.

Oh, and Dialga may be immune to Poison. Steel types have that going for them.

How quickly can it do this?

TK. :O

Pokemon poison.

About a second or so if I recall. But apparently irrelevant now.

Dialga has that too.

Is that inherently less powerful than FF poison because you want it to be?

Strongest feat of his TK?

Its a dragon with time powers what more do you want?

BTW does it actually have TK?

I know what Dialga is. :O

Possibly, lifting itself. Doesn't really matter though.

Would be interesting if you'd answer that question though.

I was under the impression it was rhetorical.

Ultimecia has TK'd stars by absorbing them.

It kind of was. And kind of wasn't.

K.

And yet TK feats are requested!

From the description of Dialga, does time even affect because its seems to me like Dialga>>>>Passage of Time?

I was mocking the fact that someone would surely try to argue that since this is poison from another verse, it would be able to affect it.

Which is not a bad argument but ultimately not provable.

So Ultimecia wins in the TK department.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Um, Ultimecia should already be in her Time Compressed, universe nomming form.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Then Dialga would have had to already be dead. So this thread is over before it began.

Existence>>>>>>>individual body weight?

This thread's confusing!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Apparently you are ill-informed on exactly WHY Ultimecia is powerful in her "Time Compressed" form.

It is not as though the compression of time has made her somehow stronger.


It is because by absorbing the power of every Sorceress in history, she acquired the entire half of the Great Hyne who bequeathed the Sorceress Power to humanity.