Originally posted by Thunder Fox
NCR were misjudged they thought they would go nowhere and were thus drastically underrated and it was Father Elijah that caused them to loos somany numbers.
they may have resources but they are so green horn its sad, Vetran Rangers would not be able to help as there fraction stays in the Mojave Wasteland and normal rangers would be torn apart by the mutants. and Liberty Prime had to be taken down by a Orbital Strike dude you relize how ownage that is.... you can scratch it wit hthe Experimental MIRV, absolutley nothing NCR has would beable to stop it. and the mojave chapterare more powerful you think every palidin killed about 10-15 soldiers are taken if i remember correctly Because the Brotherhood were so laughably outmatched that they should have just run.
No, you don't really understand. "Normal rangers torn apart by the mutants?" Do not assume that just because the punk ass Brotherhood has a hard time with the Mutants that the NCR would. Even the Lyon's Pride always has to travel in their, rather large, squadron to take out mutants, and the Brotherhood admits it is fighting a losing battle. Compare this to Reilly's Rangers, who fought hundreds of mutants in a single building, and were doing better than any Brotherhood member has ever shown to. You see, unlike you, I paid attention to said Orbital Strike. The actual blast was not that large.
And you are aware that the NCR does in fact have at least one satellite weapon under their control right, even if they cannot activate it? The NCR's sheer amount of manpower makes open war with them unthinkable for anyone but Caesar's Legion, due to having even more numbers, and Mr. House, due to sheer hax that is Mr. House. And yes, I know Paladins would kill multiple NCR troopers for each own slain. But the NCR presence in Mojave alone is greater than the entire Brotherhood's numbers. Keep in mind that in New Vegas, you are not seeing the entire NCR. Or the entire Legion for that matter.
Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Add the fact that some of the NCR senior officers are either spies (Picus), incompetent (General Oliver), screwups (The Misfits) or bad with good intentions (Hanlon), the NCR forces can barely keep Caesar's Legion at bay, let alone The Fiends and the other critters of the Mojave. God knows what would happen if they tried to invade the Boomers. The Misfits were not senior officers, and you can in fact convince them to become a boss unit. General Oliver is not technically incompetent, just a massive douchebag, who sacrifices lives for the sake of GLOREH. Hanlon is bad how now? Considering he was instrumental in the Legion's defeat at Hoover Dam, not sure what the hell you are talking about. Caesar's Legion, "Let alone the Fiends?" I am sorry, did you just actually compare the Legion and the Fiends?
The Fiends were wiped out in a couple days by Mr. House, they are a nonfactor compared to the Legion, NCR, or House. The Boomers? Pft. The Boomers only get by due to lots of artillery. If the NCR were to launch a full-scale assault, despite obviously having casualties, the NCR would crush them by the time they breached the defenses.
Originally posted by Thunder Fox
they would eventually clear up the capital wasteland........... after decades of trying to battle radiation with no chems, locating and securing little lamplight to end the mutants not to mention the remaining Enclave Forces, then there is the OutCasts that would hold no punches and would rape most of them with heavy weapons then theyd have the east coats brotherhood who are more open minded then west coast so would have more forces then they could keep up with.... by the time they get a foot hold in the wasteland Caesar would be dead or on his last legs and without him the Legion would fall into Disarray.... not to mention they almost always use melee only... so yea.... they would bulldoze through the capital wasteland.......
Locating and securing Little Lamplight? Everyone knows where it is, just not that there is a Vault there. And since Caesar is not an idiot, and since he actually has the resources to send scouts to track the mutants to Lamplight, yes he can have his forces go there and squash it. Actually outnumbering them helps. The Enclave Remnants? Dude, really? The Enclave in D.C. is all but done for, and it is due to the NCR that they fled there in the first place, the same NCR that the Legion is meeting blow for blow. The Outcasts are so hopelessly outnumbered it's funny. Seriously, how you believe they are a factor at all I cannot understand. And there is something that you need to really realise: The West Coast Brotherhood does in fact outnumber the East. In fact, shit, when was it said that the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood would actually recruit? Because I sure as hell do not remember that.
The Capital Wasteland is weak, it's telling that the two places considered the most secure civilizations (Other than the Brotherhood itself) is a scrapheap surrounding a nuclear bomb and a friggin' aircraft carrier.
