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Superman

vs

Wolverine
World War Hulk
Classic Hercules

Anything goes. Both sides are going all out AND USING THEIR POWERS TO THEIR FULLEST EXTENT.

Who wins?

Superman.

Using his powers to their full extent none of team 2 should even be able to touch him.

Wolverine is a total non-factor.

WTF is Wolverine doing here?

Logan bangs lois lane as a distraction

Originally posted by chomperx9
Logan bangs lois lane as a distraction

Does Logan have a death wish????

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Superman

vs

Wolverine
World War Hulk
Classic Hercules

Anything goes. Both sides are going all out AND USING THEIR POWERS TO THEIR FULLEST EXTENT.

Who wins? Wolverine is just there for shits and giggles

If you would merge these 3 into 1 you would have a crazy fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman.

Using his powers to their full extent none of team 2 should even be able to touch him.

Wolverine is a total non-factor.

If WWH is an indication, he takes more hits from Superman than Herc does before going down.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If WWH is an indication, he takes more hits from Superman than Herc does before going down.
Perhaps. He's still a non-factor.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Perhaps. He's still a non-factor.

To be fair... all three of them pretty much non-factors.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
To be fair... all three of them pretty much non-factors. I agree, if Spider-man would be around though...

If Spiderboy were with Supes here, the trio would stomp

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/295/marvelteamup06312.th.jpg

You look hungry Stilt
http://rudeboys.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fish-assholes.jpg

Fish assholes...? WTF?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman.

Using his powers to their full extent none of team 2 should even be able to touch him.

Wolverine is a total non-factor. ninja law in full effect i see

It depends, but team have a shot, because of Hulk.

Sups has everything on his side but strenght (I would say that he's equal to Herc and Hulk), but Hulk, not only outlive anyone in the field with his reg, but he posses Banner's brain. Sups might be a genius, he's not "Banner geniurs", and using his full ability, I think he could come up with something on the fly to beat Sups.

If the fight is in a giant dome without any ressources at hand, or without the ability to use the place at their advantage, well, Sups stomp.

Hulk grabs Wolverine and uses him as scissors against Superman.

Supes 10/10 via bfring. Without it...WWH solos 8/10

Originally posted by carver9
Supes 10/10 via bfring. Without it...WWH solos 8/10

The next time you b*tch and whine about people lowballing hulk, remember the post you just made.

This is why.

Originally posted by carver9
Supes 10/10 via bfring. Without it...WWH solos 8/10
Full capacity=Superman moving too fast for Hulk to even touch him.

wow this is a no brainer, 2 bricks and a non-factor. superman easily

I don't see how Superman wins.

Wolverine solos.

Originally posted by carver9
Supes 10/10 via bfring. Without it...WWH solos 8/10 Really carvs?

You know I luv you but your killing yourself

Superman burns the flesh off Howlett, then he beats Hercules to a pulp, and finally proceeds to disembowel/decapitate/bifurcate WWH.

Superman stomps normally he could pull the mamority against this team going all out this team is toast .....with jelly

Originally posted by -Pr-
The next time you b*tch and whine about people lowballing hulk, remember the post you just made.

This is why.

I want you to see what I think about Hulk.

WWH 9/10 against Gladiator
WWH 8/10 against Thor
WWH 9/10 against Black Bolt
WWH 4/10 against Surfer
WWH 7/10 against Captain Marvel
WWH 8/10 against Black Adam

Do you get my pont? IMO, he is above top tier physically. It has nothing to do with Supes. Just look at what I said about him and Thor in our previous debate.

How does he do better against BA than CM?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Really carvs?

You know I luv you but your killing yourself

I luv you like a lil brother too but I don't think you understand who wwh is.

Originally posted by Mindset
How does he do better against BA than CM?

Because Black Adam is a brawler that rarely use his charged fist or his speed during combat... Cap is more versatile with his powers.

Originally posted by carver9
Because Black Adam is a brawler that rarely use his charged fist or his speed during combat... Cap is more versatile with his powers. You don't know what you're talking about though.

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to see what I think about Hulk.

WWH 9/10 against Gladiator
WWH 8/10 against Thor
WWH 9/10 against Black Bolt
WWH 4/10 against Surfer
WWH 7/10 against Captain Marvel
WWH 8/10 against Black Adam

Do you get my pont? IMO, he is above top tier physically. It has nothing to do with Supes. Just look at what I said about him and Thor in our previous debate.
Lol. These numbers seem to suggest that you think they'll all engage Hulk on Hulk's terms (a brawl).

Even if that was the case most of these guys' other powers would give them the majority even if it got up close and personal.

Originally posted by Mindset
You don't know what you're talking about though. plus WWH isnt beat Captain Marvel.or Teth they are made to beat the shit out of bricks

Originally posted by Mindset
You don't know what you're talking about though.



lol... I think I do though.

Originally posted by carver9


lol... I think I do though. That's the problem.

Originally posted by iceman24567
plus WWH isnt beat Captain Marvel.or Teth they are made to beat the shit out of bricks

In some ways, I agree with this. They are the perfect heralds IMO.

W.
T.
F.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's the problem.

Lol... whatever Mindset.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
W.
T.
F.

Lol... what do you have to say about my post Jake?

Hulk is the strongest there is!!!!

You mean this:

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to see what I think about Hulk.

WWH 9/10 against Gladiator
WWH 8/10 against Thor
WWH 9/10 against Black Bolt
WWH 4/10 against Surfer
WWH 7/10 against Captain Marvel
WWH 8/10 against Black Adam

Do you get my pont? IMO, he is above top tier physically. It has nothing to do with Supes. Just look at what I said about him and Thor in our previous debate.

I'm curious where you get these numbers from and what you base on them as well as how you see these fights pan out.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You mean this:



I'm curious where you get these numbers from and what you base on them as well as how you see these fights pan out.

That would spam a thread. Since I am the perfect debator and always have reasons for my claims along with evidence make a thread and I will prove everything that I have said.

Originally posted by kgkg
Hulk is the strongest there is!!!! you been hanging around Bada to much

Originally posted by carver9
That would spam a thread. Since I am the perfect debator and always have reasons for my claims along with evidence make a thread and I will prove everything that I have said.



W-what?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


W-what? Perfect for a date.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


W-what?

Lethal weapon

In all seriousness, what kind of thread are you suggesting?

Like, a WWH gauntlet or something? Because honestly, I feel that we already know where mostly everyone stands on WWH versus specific people you've mentioned.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In all seriousness, what kind of thread are you suggesting?

Like, a WWH gauntlet or something? Because honestly, I feel that we already know where mostly everyone stands on WWH versus specific people you've mentioned.

I know... I really just want it to be a thread where just the 2 of a post reason on why he isn't or is this powerful since we have been discussing this for the past week. I know that will not happen so "you don't have to make the thread".

Originally posted by carver9
I know... I really just want it to be a thread where just the 2 of a post reason on why he isn't or is this powerful since we have been discussing this for the past week. I know that will not happen so "you don't have to make the thread".

I have no issues making the thread, I'm just not sure what you're asking specifically from it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I have no issues making the thread, I'm just not sure what you're asking specifically from it.

Not a gauntlet... something that's basically set to prove WWH is above top tier. Don't make it today... let's set it up tomorrow so that I can see if my scans are still good.

So a battlezone?

Originally posted by Harbinger
So a battlezone?

Battlezones aren't legit imo. People minds are made up on how powerful Hulk is and 90% of the peeps here doesn't give him credit and basically ignore the character entire history claiming that its PIS.

Originally posted by carver9
Battlezones aren't legit imo. People minds are made up on how powerful Hulk is and 90% of the peeps here doesn't give him credit.
Lol. Copout.

Translation: I'd get destroyed so I'm not going to go there.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol. Copout.

Translation: I'd get destroyed so I'm not going to go there.

Lol... naah, I was the one that challenged Jake but I can see where you are coming from though.

Battlezones aren't legit? They're plenty of unbiased judges and members here. Besides, even if they enter the BZ thinking WWH isn't as strong as you claim he is, if my reasoning or counter argument is weak or wobbly, you'd win by being the better debater.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Battlezones aren't legit? They're plenty of unbiased judges and members here. Besides, even if they enter the BZ thinking WWH isn't as strong as you claim he is, if my reasoning or counter argument is weak or wobbly, you'd win by being the better debater.

I will ask One Dumb for some scans that I know he have saved up because some of my scans are not working for me right now. Jake, you do know that the only thing I have to do is prove that Savage Hulk has and can beat High Heralds right. With just that (which has been shown plenty of times throughout Hulks history) and us knowing that WWH is far more poweful than Savage, I would win this debate.

You can't win this Jake.

Originally posted by carver9
I will ask One Dumb for some scans that I know he have saved up because some of my scans are not working for me right now. Jake, you do know that the only thing I have to do is prove that Savage Hulk has and can beat High Heralds right. With just that (which has been shown plenty of times throughout Hulks history) and us knowing that WWH is far more poweful than Savage, I would win this debate.

You can't win this Jake.

What exactly is your point you're trying to make here, though? That's what I'm trying to get at. Specifically lay out your points you want to make if you'd please. If I battlezone you, I want to know exactly what we're debating.

what would happen if superman were to throw a punch at wolverine and wolverine were to punch at his coming fist with his claws out ?

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to see what I think about Hulk.

WWH 9/10 against Gladiator
WWH 8/10 against Thor
WWH 9/10 against Black Bolt
WWH 4/10 against Surfer
WWH 7/10 against Captain Marvel
WWH 8/10 against Black Adam

Do you get my pont? IMO, he is above top tier physically. It has nothing to do with Supes. Just look at what I said about him and Thor in our previous debate.

That settles it; you're clinically insane.

Originally posted by carver9
Battlezones aren't legit imo. People minds are made up on how powerful Hulk is and 90% of the peeps here doesn't give him credit and basically ignore the character entire history claiming that its PIS.

Carver, we both know the truth is that your own denial won't let you admit if it you get beaten fair and square. Come on now...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What exactly is your point you're trying to make here, though? That's what I'm trying to get at. Specifically lay out your points you want to make if you'd please. If I battlezone you, I want to know exactly what we're debating.

Lol... I don't want to battlezone you Jake... its a waste of time and its to much dedication that's put in place for it and I'm at work 90% of the time.

The only thing that I want to prove is WWH>>top tier and Savage Hulk is = top tier.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That settles it; you're clinically insane.



Carver, we both know the truth is that your own denial won't let you admit if it you get beaten fair and square. Come on now...



Just keeping it real.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I don't want to battlezone you Jake... its a waste of time and its to much dedication that's put in place for it and I'm at work 90% of the time.

The only thing that I want to prove is WWH>>top tier and Savage Hulk is = top tier.

Aww, too bad.

I would have loved Battlezoning WWH getting his ass handed to him by Captain Marvel.

Superman would never be struck by them he's just too fast. Lightspeed travel and combat abilities from times like when Flash was Mind controlled and melts wolverine's adamantium into scrap metal with heat vision and uses it to contain Hercules while he spanks WWH

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Aww, too bad.

I would have loved Battlezoning WWH getting his ass handed to him by Captain Marvel.

I already admitted that you could make a good argument out of Captain Marvel vs Hulk.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Superman would never be struck by them he's just too fast. Lightspeed travel and combat abilities from times like when Flash was Mind controlled and melts wolverine's adamantium into scrap metal with heat vision and uses it to contain Hercules while he spanks WWH if captain cold , bullyseye , and lex luther can tag flash why cant wwh tag superman?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if captain cold , bullyseye , and lex luther can tag flash why cant wwh tag superman?
Bullseye?

Also that's PIS.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if captain cold , bullyseye , and lex luther can tag flash why cant wwh tag superman?

In a comic Superman would go blow for blow with Hulk, and it is even conceivable that he might lose... but on KMC Superman uses his speed, and it is an insurmountable advantage.

Originally posted by carver9


Just keeping it real.

mmm

Superman... Stomps.

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to see what I think about Hulk.

WWH 9/10 against Gladiator
WWH 8/10 against Thor
WWH 9/10 against Black Bolt
WWH 4/10 against Surfer
WWH 7/10 against Captain Marvel
WWH 8/10 against Black Adam

Do you get my pont? IMO, he is above top tier physically. It has nothing to do with Supes. Just look at what I said about him and Thor in our previous debate.

Hulk cannot get the majority over any of these guys, unless they just stand there and let Hulk beat on them.

Dude what part of Hulk has never beat Black Bolt don't you get!?!?? If this is just a straight up fist fight yeah maybe, but it never is....Black Bolt is just a smarter fighter.

Black Adam and Captain marvel would utterly destroy hulk even if they didn't use super speed or lightning attacks. Hulk just dosen't start out strong enough to hang with these two.

Gladiator only lost to PIS

Carver you are a funny guy

Using his powers anywhere near their fullest extent, Superman punks these guys.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Hulk cannot get the majority over any of these guys, unless they just stand there and let Hulk beat on them.

Dude what part of Hulk has never beat Black Bolt don't you get!?!?? If this is just a straight up fist fight yeah maybe, but it never is....Black Bolt is just a smarter fighter.

Black Adam and Captain marvel would utterly destroy hulk even if they didn't use super speed or lightning attacks. Hulk just dosen't start out strong enough to hang with these two.

Gladiator only lost to PIS

Carver you are a funny guy

You are one of the most biased people towards Hulk. Why would I listen to you? You didn't even know he had planetary feats until I told you.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman... Stomps.
Hey it's that guy.

Originally posted by carver9
You are one of the most biased people towards Hulk. Why would I listen to you? You didn't even know he had planetary feats until I told you.

I have been reading the Hulk since the 1980s. The Hulk just isn't all that at all. All he is is strength....he brings very little else to the table. Most of those guys could beat the hulk without him laying a hand on them. Hulk only wins these fights if the characters fight stupid.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I have been reading the Hulk since the 1980s. The Hulk just isn't all that at all. All he is is strength....he brings very little else to the table. Most of those guys could beat the hulk without him laying a hand on them. Hulk only wins these fights if the characters fight stupid.

Aaahhh, so Hulk doesn't have super speed and the ability to amp ALL of his stats during a rage. Get out of here with that crap. Hulk has been tagging speedsters along with Heralds his entire career. He brings a lot to the table in a fight... Super Sonic jumping, trans+ higher strength, high end durability, insane healing factor, adaptation, and all of these stats increase as the fight progress (which could take nothing but mere seconds). Lately current Hulk has been blitzing like hell and he tried to blitz Zeus during the beginning of their fight.

Your posts about Hulk is BS and you need to stop ignoring the characters history and by the way, you have not read anything about Hulk and I have proven that numerous of times during our debate.

http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

(This is PC Superman by the way)

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

I can do better than that.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13310838

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

(This is PC Superman by the way)

Superman was never drawn like that pre crisis.

Originally posted by carver9
Aaahhh, so Hulk doesn't have super speed and the ability to amp ALL of his stats during a rage. Get out of here with that crap. Hulk has been tagging speedsters along with Heralds his entire career. He brings a lot to the table in a fight... Super Sonic jumping, trans+ higher strength, high end durability, insane healing factor, adaptation, and all of these stats increase as the fight progress (which could take nothing but mere seconds). Lately current Hulk has been blitzing like hell and he tried to blitz Zeus during the beginning of their fight.

Your posts about Hulk is BS and you need to stop ignoring the characters history and by the way, you have not read anything about Hulk and I have proven that numerous of times during our debate.

I have been reading the Hulk forever. I just dont worship him. Most of these guys can bring Hulk down before he even gets mad enough. As far as Hulk blitzing please the hulk running at someone is not the same as Superman blitzing someone.

Super sonic jumping.......??? He dosent jump any faster than anyone else he can just jump into the outer atmosphere. He will need his healing factor in all of these fights. Yeah his stats increase, but just not fast enough.

You tell me how does he beat Black Adam or Captain marvel?? I will tell you that base CM/BA are stronger than him.

I like the way that Superman looks.

Bad a**.

Originally posted by carver9
I can do better than that.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13310838

This isn't even a real picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The exact opposite happened!!!!!!!!!!! You live in a dream world.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

(This is PC Superman by the way)

No... just no.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I have been reading the Hulk forever. I just dont worship him. Most of these guys can bring Hulk down before he even gets mad enough. As far as Hulk blitzing please the hulk running at someone is not the same as Superman blitzing someone.

Super sonic jumping.......??? He dosent jump any faster than anyone else he can just jump into the outer atmosphere. He will need his healing factor in all of these fights. Yeah his stats increase, but just not fast enough.

You tell me how does he beat Black Adam or Captain marvel?? I will tell you that base CM/BA are stronger than him.

I'm not responding to the rest of your terrible post but what I am interested in is your comment about Cap and BA being near his strength. Do you have anything showing that Cap and BA can surpass 100 trillion tons worth of force instantly?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not responding to the rest of your terrible post but what I am interested in is your comment about Cap and BA being near his strength. Do you have anything showing that Cap and BA can surpass 100 trillion tons worth of force instantly?

Originally posted by carver9
I can do better than that.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13310838

After you put up that fake picture of hulk knocking out superman. You are crazy and thats all to it.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
After you put up that fake picture of hulk knocking out superman. You are crazy and thats all to it.

Both of those scans aren't legit... put it up for fun buddy. Answer the question and "prove it".

By the way... this scan is real.

http://m980.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/ankur2292/Scan015-016.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=Scan015-016.jpg

They were all there to fight "just" the Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Both of those scans aren't legit... put it up for fun buddy. Answer the question and "prove it".

By the way... this scan is real.

http://m980.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/ankur2292/Scan015-016.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=Scan015-016.jpg

They were all there to fight "just" the Hulk.

So?? All of those guys would not be needed in reality if Gladiator, Captain marvel, Black Adam, Silver Surfer, Thor there to fight instead. They have Thor in that picture for sure, but if he fought like he was supposed he could wipe hulk out.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

(This is PC Superman by the way) Originally posted by carver9
I can do better than that.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13310838

how did you guys get into debating using non canon scans?

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
So?? All of those guys would not be needed in reality if Gladiator, Captain marvel, Black Adam, Silver Surfer, Thor there to fight instead. They have Thor in that picture for sure, but if he fought like he was supposed he could wipe hulk out.

What in the Hell?

You and your "what if this happen".

Thor has fought Savage Hulk and already got his a** knocked out wit his ow hammer. Gladiator has already fought Hulk and got beat to sleep as well.

Your argument fails and the sad thing, it was against a weaker Hulk than the Hulk today which is WWH.

Get over your Hulk hate. Marvel is throwing all of this stuff at you to show you how powerful Hulk is and you ignore it because you don't like it.

Originally posted by carver9
What in the Hell?

You and your "what if this happen".

Thor has fought Savage Hulk and already got his a** knocked out wit his ow hammer. Gladiator has already fought Hulk and got beat to sleep as well.

Your argument fails and the sad thing, it was against a weaker Hulk than the Hulk today which is WWH.

Get over your Hulk hate. Marvel is throwing all of this stuff at you to show you how powerful Hulk is and you ignore it because you don't like it.

How many Heroes went down after the scan you showed? I mean how many did Hulk ko? Who has won and was it an easy fight for the heroes?

Originally posted by Black bolt z


how did you guys get into debating using non canon scans?

Mine was just for fun. I don't believe in non-canon material.

Originally posted by carver9
What in the Hell?

You and your "what if this happen".

Thor has fought Savage Hulk and already got his a** knocked out wit his ow hammer. Gladiator has already fought Hulk and got beat to sleep as well.

Your argument fails and the sad thing, it was against a weaker Hulk than the Hulk today which is WWH.

Get over your Hulk hate. Marvel is throwing all of this stuff at you to show you how powerful Hulk is and you ignore it because you don't like it.

The gladiator hulk fight was Pis. If Gladiator would have fought smart instead of fighting like a brick he would have taken this easily. Outerspace is full of all kinds of radiation and Glads has never been hurt by it. Hulk just happens to wind up next to a nuclear reactor that happened to have the right kind of radiation sitting inside of it????

Again if Thor fights smarter he would never lose to Hulk. His Hammer should be all that is needed to put Hulk on his back.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
How many Heroes went down after the scan you showed? I mean how many did Hulk ko? Who has won and was it an easy fight for the heroes?



They prepped against him and he took out a couple but the moral is... they had to build a team of that nature... they thought of him as a major threat.

Carver, stop trolling. You're going way overboard with your Hulk love.

At the very least, you could have backed She-Hulk; then you might get some leeway.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
The gladiator hulk fight was Pis. If Gladiator would have fought smart instead of fighting like a brick he would have taken this easily. Outerspace is full of all kinds of radiation and Glads has never been hurt by it. Hulk just happens to wind up next to a nuclear reactor that happened to have the right kind of radiation sitting inside of it????

Again if Thor fights smarter he would never lose to Hulk. His Hammer should be all that is needed to put Hulk on his back.

Gladiator, Superman, Black Adam, Doomsday, Zeus, Odin, Spiderman, Juggernaut, all of their showings are pis.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Carver, stop trolling. You're going way overboard with your Hulk love.

At the very least, you could have backed She-Hulk; then you might get some leeway.

How am I trolling Pr?

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator, Superman, Black Adam, Doomsday, Zeus, Odin, Spiderman, Juggernaut, all of their showings are pis.

looneylethalwavey

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
looneylethalwavey

I know huh. Since I don't like their feats... its PIs.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.nt2099.com/comics/milestones/art/cbm25.jpg

(This is PC Superman by the way) How is long hair Clark pre crisis? Do you even know when COIE was?

Originally posted by carver9
I know huh. Since I don't like their feats... its PIs.

that's how you usually do it. or you try to discredit them another way.

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's how you usually do it. or you try to discredit them another way.

But you have never ever seen me call something PIS. It doesnt exist to me.

Originally posted by carver9
But you have never ever seen me call something PIS. It desnt exist to me. Superman saving the omniverse via vibrating. Go

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Superman saving the omniverse via vibrating. Go

Not PIS... that's all he had to do was match the frequencies that was being generated. Don't see anything wrong with that.

bless you carver. if not for you pr would probably be bored out of his mind.....

superman wins 10/10 unless he tries to..... shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
bless you carver. if not for you pr would probably be bored out of his mind.....

superman wins 10/10 unless he tries to..... shrug




I try to avoid debating against Pr... it never turns out so good for me.

Originally posted by carver9


I try to avoid debating against Pr... it never turns out so good for me.

Finally we agree on something.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Finally we agree on something.