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Will it be with us until the end of civilization or does Face book have some worthy competition?

I even ended up with a Facebook account without even signing up myself. Is it an unstoppable force?

What do you think? Is it really that cool to everybody?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Will it be with us until the end of civilization or does Face book have some worthy competition?

I even ended up with a Facebook account without even signing up myself. Is it an unstoppable force?

What do you think? Is it really that cool to everybody?

McDonald's is 70 years old, lets not jump the gun on end of civilization.

Facebook is huge and will likely stay with us for a long time, but there will be enough competition from many different places, like Google, Apple and Microsoft, as well as other known and yet unknown players.

Social Networking sites come and go...I don't think Facebook or Twitter will be any different to Myspace and Bebo in terms of once having huge popularity and are now entirely populated by spamming *****.

Originally posted by jaden101
Social Networking sites come and go...I don't think Facebook or Twitter will be any different to Myspace and Bebo in terms of once having huge popularity and are now entirely populated by spamming *****.

Facebook is massive, they have a great platform to extend to the more important areas of Identification and Payment that will be coming up, if it plays its cards right (which everything is pointing to at the moment) they could be able to be in the same league as Google.

Originally posted by Bardock42
McDonald's is 70 years old, lets not jump the gun on end of civilization.

Facebook is huge and will likely stay with us for a long time, but there will be enough competition from many different places, like Google, Apple and Microsoft, as well as other known and yet unknown players. McDonald's may be young but it's not going to lose to a fledgling ffood restaurant. I had heard that myspace fell off because of spamming (which I honestly don't know what exactly that means) and viruses ( which I understand ) but I thought it appealed to the young people (15-35). My dad (65) has a facebook account. And this is a guy who didn't do computers.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Will it be with us until the end of civilization or does Face book have some worthy competition?

I even ended up with a Facebook account without even signing up myself. Is it an unstoppable force?

What do you think? Is it really that cool to everybody?
You're saying McDonalds doesn't have worthy competition?

Burger King and Wendys glare at you.

The internet is fickle, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook went the way of Myspace and Friendster when someone makes something slightly more "innovative".

Originally posted by The MISTER
Will it be with us until the end of civilization or does Face book have some worthy competition?

I even ended up with a Facebook account without even signing up myself. Is it an unstoppable force?

What do you think? Is it really that cool to everybody? Unless you think civilization will come to an abrupt end during the next century, I doubt either McDicks or Facebook will see our end.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The internet is fickle, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook went the way of Myspace and Friendster when someone makes something slightly more "innovative". Let's do it.

Originally posted by Mindset
Let's do it.

Yeah, you me and srankmissingnin without the idea or skills and against their 1000 developers, should be a piece of cake.

Originally posted by Mindset
Let's do it.

Okay, but I warn you, I've seen the Social Network, you better not try and screw me!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, you me and srankmissingnin without the idea or skills and against their 1000 developers, should be a piece of cake.

Your right, lets make iphone apps instead! I have an idea, it's called Ornery Owls.

Originally posted by The MISTER
McDonald's may be young but it's not going to lose to a fledgling ffood restaurant. I had heard that myspace fell off because of spamming (which I honestly don't know what exactly that means) and viruses ( which I understand ) but I thought it appealed to the young people (15-35). My dad (65) has a facebook account. And this is a guy who didn't do computers. Spam is just stupid pointless crap. Emails you get about viagra and such.

Facebook has it too, but not as bad.Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, you me and srankmissingnin without the idea or skills and against their 1000 developers, should be a piece of cake. They all started from somewhere.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They all started from somewhere.

So you're saying we should become Harvard and MIT drops outs?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So you're saying we should become Harvard and MIT drops outs? Why waste your money, just start the company.

Help us, CM, we need you.

i like mcdonalds ,,,, what is facebook can someone please tell me as i don't have one

I don't have a Facebook account.

I think it is largely a form of self indulgence for vain people, and a convenient place for creepy dudes to cyber stalk attractive women they barely know.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Will it be with us until the end of civilization or does Face book have some worthy competition?

I even ended up with a Facebook account without even signing up myself. Is it an unstoppable force?

What do you think? Is it really that cool to everybody?


McDonald's has been surpassed by Subway in number of locations, so you may have a bad analogy in using McDonald's.


To actually answer the question and not miss your point, no, Facebook will not become the McDonald's of social networking. There are many social networking sites but it's quite obvious that Twitter and Facebook are "top." McDonald's has tons of steep competition. Facebook doesn't have the same type and depth of competition.

What about facebook's future? If Facebook does not adapt to future trends, it will fade away from the digitial eye and something else will replace it.

Facebook value meals?

Originally posted by Mindset
Help us, CM, we need you. Soon.Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't have a Facebook account.

I think it is largely a form of self indulgence for vain people, and a convenient place for creepy dudes to cyber stalk attractive women they barely know. True to some extent. Why do people need to let you know everything they do at every second. Does anybody care that you spilled your cereal in the morning.

I find it a decent way to keep in touch with several groups of friends as well as getting certain types of news from my friends (albeit never as useful as Google Reader can provide).

Though actually, Facebook (and Google and other sites) do have a worrying phenomenon that some people equate with the "badness" of fast food, which is personalized, selective streams, which can lead to completely shut out certain new and unknown parts of the world from he internet experience you receive. Which in turn may lead to the Internet being a less (passively) useful tool for learning and create certain groups completely unexposed to different viewpoints or art and entertainment outside their comfort zone.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I find it a decent way to keep in touch with several groups of friends as well as getting certain types of news from my friends (albeit never as useful as Google Reader can provide).

Though actually, Facebook (and Google and other sites) do have a worrying phenomenon that some people equate with the "badness" of fast food, which is personalized, selective streams, which can lead to completely shut out certain new and unknown parts of the world from he internet experience you receive. Which in turn may lead to the Internet being a less (passively) useful tool for learning and create certain groups completely unexposed to different viewpoints or art and entertainment outside their comfort zone. I have it myself and I use it to keep up with friends here and then, although I don't post too often. Just read up on stuff.

But srank did have a point.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're saying McDonalds doesn't have worthy competition?

Burger King and Wendys glare at you. They're glaring
harder at Ronald.

@dadudeman
Subway's can be crammed in the corner of a gas station. Vending machines probably have more locations than McDonald's too. Do you think subway may become more popular!?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Although I did notice that you were citing American polls that prefer Wendy's and combining multiple restaurants under one company and pitting them all against one restaurant. Like Facebook, McDonald's is pretty much everywhere that's got electricity. And also like Facebook it stands alone as king in it's industry for now. I'm not their biggest fan but I realize they're the Disney of fast food worldwide for the time being.

Oh contraire mon frere!

I did a NYSE comparison, aka, the corporate level comparison.

I did a YUM vs. MCD NYSE comparison as that's the most fair.

When you get to the corporate level, you have to make appropriate comparisons. Yum! Brands has diversified their offerings to increase their market penetration and share: McDonald's has not. Yum! Brands should not only NOT be faulted for that diversification, they should be applauded. This is why they have more locations than McDonald's Corporation.


Edit - I should point out that McDonald's has done a great job diversifying to fit their locations. So, they are not doing bad, they just aren't doing as well as others.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh contraire mon frere!

I did a NYSE comparison, aka, the corporate level comparison.

I did a YUM vs. MCD NYSE comparison as that's the most fair.

When you get to the corporate level, you have to make appropriate comparisons. Yum! Brands has diversified their offerings to increase their market penetration and share: McDonald's has not. Yum! Brands should not only NOT be faulted for that diversification, they should be applauded. This is why they have more locations than McDonald's Corporation.


Edit - I should point out that McDonald's has done a great job diversifying to fit their locations. So, they are not doing bad, they just aren't doing as well as others. Lol I see what you're saying. It's like if Bill Gate's bought Busch Gardens and all the Six flags and a myriad of other amusement parks then they would be making more together than Disney alone. They still wouldn't be the same household name! know what I mean?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Lol I see what you're saying. It's like if Bill Gate's bought Busch Gardens and all the Six flags and a myriad of other amusement parks then they would be making more together than Disney alone. They still wouldn't be the same household name! know what I mean?

Sort of, but not really.

They are still the same corporation and trade the same on the NYSE. You don't purchase shares in "Pizza Hut", you purchase shares in "YUM." You don't purchase shares in McDonald's of China, you purchase shares in MCD.

You have to compare apples to apples. If you want to compare one product offering of a company to an entire corporation, that's not an apples to apples comparison.

McDonald's can be quite a bit different in other countries, meaning, it isn't as simple as saying, "McDonald's is the same in every franchise in every nation." They are quite the diverse organization in their product offerings. They just haven't done AS WELL as Yum! Brands.



You wouldn't do the same for General Electric, would you? You'd only compare, say, JUST their lightbulb division with another organization that offered lightbulbs, electrical cords, light fixtures, would you? Because that's what you're trying to do with Yum! Brands and McDonald's Corporation. McDonald's Corporation is comprised of lots of small "brand name" offerings. McCafe, McStop, McExpress, etc. Those are not products, those are brand names that offer products that McDonald's Corporation has trademarked.

This is similar to Yum! Foods trademarking and combining Pizza Hut with Wing Stop: it's the same thing as combining the brand McCafe with McDonald's Restaurants.

In other words, the ignorance of the populace can be ignored. There's lots of nice little marketing games each corporation plays with their name brands. Household names or not, there's another game being played and that's the battle of the corporations over their targeted market shares.

I can see where he's coming from, McDonald's alone is gigantic (bigger than subway, although with less restaurants and also bigger than Yum, though for the sake of argument lets say Yum was bigger) and bigger than any one of the brands Yum has. In fact Yum having more brands makes each brand on itself weaker and more likely to die for another. McDonald's is very unlikely to die as that's the only thing they make their money with, on the other hand Pizza Hut or Taco Bell being dropped from the Yum Roster if they are not making profit anymore is more likely as they have other companies to pick up the slack. Say they didn't like the brand Taco Bell anymore, and wanted to put it under their Pizza Hut brand, as Taco Hut...Taco Bell would be gone from the consumer conschious in no time, now McDonald's dropping or changing their only (huge) brand that they worked so hard on...eh, I don't think so.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I can see where he's coming from, McDonald's alone is gigantic (bigger than subway, although with less restaurants and also bigger than Yum, though for the sake of argument lets say Yum was bigger) and bigger than any one of the brands Yum has. In fact Yum having more brands makes each brand on itself weaker and more likely to die for another. McDonald's is very unlikely to die as that's the only thing they make their money with, on the other hand Pizza Hut or Taco Bell being dropped from the Yum Roster if they are not making profit anymore is more likely as they have other companies to pick up the slack. Say they didn't like the brand Taco Bell anymore, and wanted to put it under their Pizza Hut brand, as Taco Hut...Taco Bell would be gone from the consumer conschious in no time, now McDonald's dropping or changing their only (huge) brand that they worked so hard on...eh, I don't think so.

Apparantly, Yum! Brands is made stronger (obviously) by a more diverse product offering. They dropped off A&W and Long John Silvers because they were underperforming. They are still a "food" powerhouse in the corporate world and are doing better than McDonald's, from an investment perspective. Yum! Brands is the largest in operating units, but not revenue. That's where McDonald's is king.

Also, dropping off name brands from their offerings is the same thing as McDonald's dropping off their name brand offerings such as McCafe. Those trends could come and go.

It's true that the core burger products are McDonald's staple and Yum! Brands does not have a core product offering that is equal to the McDonald's core. Compare something like, say, Pizza Hut or Taco Bell to the American burger core products of McDonald's and none of them can hold a candle to McDonald's.

But this is about Facebook, not McDonald's. Facebook is ALMOST a complete on-trick-pony, as the old people in Okie land say. Comparing them to MCD or YUM is not very logical considering each has lots of brand diversification. Facebook is facebook.

Contrast this with Microsoft or google which have gigantic diversification in their products or brand offerings: even more so than McDonald's and Yum! Brands.

It is just a fad right now like myspace was then something new comes up and everyone changes.So I doubt it if it will be around forever;.
As for McDonalds I don't like the stuff so I don't care if it stays or goes/.

Subway are bigger than McDonalds already.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Apparantly, Yum! Brands is made stronger (obviously) by a more diverse product offering. They dropped off A&W and Long John Silvers because they were underperforming. They are still a "food" powerhouse in the corporate world and are doing better than McDonald's, from an investment perspective. Yum! Brands is the largest in operating units, but not revenue. That's where McDonald's is king.

Also, dropping off name brands from their offerings is the same thing as McDonald's dropping off their name brand offerings such as McCafe. Those trends could come and go.

It's true that the core burger products are McDonald's staple and Yum! Brands does not have a core product offering that is equal to the McDonald's core. Compare something like, say, Pizza Hut or Taco Bell to the American burger core products of McDonald's and none of them can hold a candle to McDonald's.

But this is about Facebook, not McDonald's. Facebook is ALMOST a complete on-trick-pony, as the old people in Okie land say. Comparing them to MCD or YUM is not very logical considering each has lots of brand diversification. Facebook is facebook.

Contrast this with Microsoft or google which have gigantic diversification in their products or brand offerings: even more so than McDonald's and Yum! Brands. But is facebook really a one-trick pony? After my wife signed me up and accepting friend requests and such I mostly got on to compete with her at the fair game up there. I go for weeks without playing but there is a game to play at least. Are there any other social networks on the horizon that offer something unique?

Originally posted by Captain Veteran
Subway are bigger than McDonalds already. Yeah, cause their mascot's way more popular with kids.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Yeah, cause their mascot's way more popular with kids.

http://www.walletpop.com/2011/03/08/subway-is-bigger-than-mcdonalds/

You read the news right?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Not us but thanks for the heads up. Actually I might get the virus on purpose....my wife spends WAY too much time on facebook.

Well if you see the message below, click it and that should put an end to that.

http://sophosnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/theme-park.jpg

Originally posted by Square Jaw
http://www.walletpop.com/2011/03/08/subway-is-bigger-than-mcdonalds/

You read the news right? I knew it was cause of the gas stations.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I knew it was cause of the gas stations.

O.K.

Originally posted by Square Jaw
O.K. No really, I had said that earlier. McDonald's is in gas stations too, but they're pretty large and are usually in tourist trap areas. Every kangaroo station around here is likely to have a subway shoved in the corner. McDonald's usually won't be without a drive-thru even at the gas station. Does Subway make ANY drive-thru money?

Originally posted by The MISTER
No really, I had said that earlier. McDonald's is in gas stations too, but they're pretty large and are usually in tourist trap areas. Every kangaroo station around here is likely to have a subway shoved in the corner. McDonald's usually won't be without a drive-thru even at the gas station. Does Subway make ANY drive-thru money?

I don't know, I saw more subways in Asia than Medonanlds; although, their were a lot of both.

Well Facebook doesn't have to worry about the same supply problems that McDonald's does. They make a lot more money than they have to spend on materials. Considering that factor Facebook seems geared to quickly take it's place alongside giants like walmart, Microsoft, McDonald's ,and Disney. I know that it seems like a fad but resources are resources and Facebook is stocking up. If something doesn't compete soon it could have a potential global monopoly and stifle innovation. How much of a possibility does that have of happening?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Yeah, cause their mascot's way more popular with kids. Diversification is good, but you still have to hit a target demographic, something McDonalds has done.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Diversification is good, but you still have to hit a target demographic, something McDonalds has done. Yeah it looks like Facebook has too. Their target demographic is all of humanity. Looks like everyone agrees that facebook has NO competition. ZERO suggestions have been made for a good alternative. I guess facebook reigns supreme.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The internet is fickle, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook went the way of Myspace and Friendster when someone makes something slightly more "innovative".

Right? Does anyone even remember or use Xanga or Tagged anymore?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Yeah it looks like Facebook has too. Their target demographic is all of humanity. Looks like everyone agrees that facebook has NO competition. ZERO suggestions have been made for a good alternative. I guess facebook reigns supreme. It started out at a more specific group, but it has some target appeal, like the people who use it to play farmville and things like that.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Yeah it looks like Facebook has too. Their target demographic is all of humanity.



I don't know why I thought this was funny. Probably because it's absolutely true.

I refuse to sign up for any social networking site. Privacy is hard enough in this day and age..

Shouldn't be too bad. Most are idiots though and broadcast their entire life on those sites. Never understood that.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Shouldn't be too bad. Most are idiots though and broadcast their entire life on those sites. Never understood that. For real. I wouldn't be surprised if some people post their Social security number up there.

Yea, people are that stupid. I just got a scam email myself, from "western union" asking me to verify my locked account and I don't even use western union.

Originally posted by The MISTER
McDonald's may be young but it's not going to lose to a fledgling ffood restaurant.

Just wait until the liberals get their way and impose their draconian health laws upon society even further, McDonald's will go the way of the Dodo. That or it will become "healthy" and thereby McDonald's in name only.

Originally posted by Robtard
Just wait until the liberals get their way and impose their draconian health laws upon society even further, McDonald's will go the way of the Dodo. That or it will become "healthy" and thereby McDonald's in name only. It would be the latter like in Demolition Man.

Dunno... potentially I suppose.

Who knows how big this facebook thing is going to get.