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Captain America
Spiderman
Daredevil
Iron Man
The Punisher
Beast

vs

Kalibak

Fight to the death

As stated in the Iron Man vs. Kalibak thread, Tony on his own can more than give the average Kalibak a fight. The other streets/meta will serve as distraction and annoyances long enough for Tony to potentially solo him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As stated in the Iron Man vs. Kalibak thread, Tony on his own can more than give the average Kalibak a fight. More than give average Kalibak a fight? Go ahead then, first define your ideea of average Kalibak. Then we define the ideea of average Iron Man.

Yes. What's your definition of average Kalibak?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Kalibak as he's most often portrayed. Which is below Iron Man's average?

Why all this dodging?

I'm not the one who put forward the ideea of Iron Man soloing; or him giving more than a fight to Kalibak, on average.

Thus, you're the one who needs to define how you see Kalibak's average, and why Iron Man's average is better, for this discussion to progress in any direction.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, what does average Kalibak bring to the table that Iron Man can't beat or split even against at the very least? On average, Kalibak is physically comparable to Orion; with flight capabilities that would ensure he'd close the gap on Iron Man, durability to take everything that's thrown at him and range weapon capable of staggering the likes of Orion and Superman, also coupled with his strength.

Iron Man wouldn't be able to put him down, and it's only a matter of time before Kalibak gets a few shots in and Iron Man is out.

Average Kalibak get beat up by Superman, or Orion tiers of people. So even if he gets beat up, or one shotted that's not bad considering who he's fighting. Unless we're claiming Tony's on par with Superman, or Orion's.

This is rediculous. Even if Kalibak is an idiot who's a disgrace to his father, he's still one of Darkseid's kids. And he may lose to people like Orion or Superman, but they would annihilate this team as well.

The team has no means of hurting him or putting him down. And as Philo said, it's only a matter of time until he lands a lucky shot and kills someone. His beta club has hurt his brother and Superman, and broken Kyle's shields.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Kalibak's average doesn't put him far and beyond away such beings such as Ulik, whom Iron Man was able to best and fight on even terms at the very least and multiple times at that. Iron Man has superior speed, offensive options, versatility, shields capable of blocking intensely powerful energy output of various kinds, able to better adapt and fight unknown foes, far smarter, etc.

So, what does average Kalibak bring to the table that Iron Man can't beat or split even against at the very least?

This...

And you also forgot to add that Ironman has a Spider sense and can also teleport, turn invisible, and can actually make light clones of himself.

Kalibak is a brick. He is losing this fight Trickster.

Doesn't really help when his opponent is stronger, faster, and has both the physical prowess to rip his armor apart, and a apokoliptian weapon that can one shot him.

Edit: Big deal. He's still a bigger brick than these guys. And what part of "Beta Club" do you not get? You don't put high metas against people who fight Superman and co.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Doesn't really help when his opponent is stronger, faster, and has both the physical prowess to rip his armor apart, and a apokoliptian weapon that can one shot him.

Edit: Big deal. He's still a bigger brick than these guys. And what part of "Beta Club" do you not get? You don't put high metas against people who fight Superman and co.

I know you just didn't say Kalibak is faster than Ironman... someone who has nano second feats and someone who has flown from Earth to the sun in 2 panels.

Tonys strength WILL hurt Kalibak, his speed advantage will be a major factor and his versatility from sonic, to bombs, to repulsor rays, to every things else would harm him as well.

Tony has the tools.

Originally posted by carver9
I know you just didn't say Kalibak is faster than Ironman... someone who has nano second feats and someone who has flown from Earth to the sun in 2 panels.

Tonys strength WILL hurt Kalibak, his speed advantage will be a major factor and his versatility from sonic, to bombs, to repulsor rays, to every things else would harm him as well.

Tony has the tools.

Kalibak has reacted to both Superman, and Orion before, and that's base Kalibak.