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No Ada claws or skeleton for Wolverine. Wolv also has no healing factor. This fight simply comes down to who is the more skilled fighter.

batman. pretty clear win imo.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This fight simply comes down to who is the more skilled fighter.

In that case Batman.

.

Suit or no suit for Batman?

In a h2h fight in equal bodies, Wolverine will take the majority, he is more skilled than Bruce.

Batman beats the living shit out of him.

I'm sure this has been done before.

Batman eats Logan alive

Let me know when Batman accomplishes the equivalent of effortlessly defeating Shang-Chi in three panels, or successfully executes a potentially fatal pressure point on someone as skilled as Captain America. Wolverine's skill feats are superior to Batman's by a notable margin. There is nothing to suggest Batman is more skilled aside from blind fanboy bias.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Let me know when Batman accomplishes the equivalent of effortlessly defeating Shang-Chi in three panels, or successfully executes a potentially fatal pressure point on someone as skilled as Captain America. Wolverine's skill feats are superior to Batman's by a notable margin. There is nothing to suggest Batman is more skilled aside from blind fanboy bias. why you so mad?

Wolverine didn't have a normal human body, nub.

You big fat nub.

Let me know when you stop being a nub, gosh.

Originally posted by iceman24567
why you so mad? http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/L-A-Morselli/HeMad.jpg

Batman easily outfights him, rolls him in a carpet and throws him in a dumpster.

Just because.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine didn't have a normal human body, nub.

You big fat nub.

Let me know when you stop being a nub, gosh.

Shang-Chi is doesn't have a "normal human body," either and Wolverine still wrecked him effortlessly. Wolverine's skill feats are significantly more impressive than Batman's, that is just the reality of the situation.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Shang-Chi is doesn't have a "normal human body," either and Wolverine still wrecked him effortlessly. Wolverine's skill feats are significantly more impressive than Batman's, that is just the reality of the situation. Wolverine's body > Shang's unamped body

I always get a kick out of seeing srank living in his own fantasy realm, where the "reality of the situation" is that Wolverine is the best martial artist.

Haha, me too, phil.

Iron Fist is the best.

Wolverine wins.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Let me know when Batman accomplishes the equivalent of effortlessly defeating Shang-Chi in three panels, or successfully executes a potentially fatal pressure point on someone as skilled as Captain America. Wolverine's skill feats are superior to Batman's by a notable margin. There is nothing to suggest Batman is more skilled aside from blind fanboy bias. http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpg

That look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.

This borders on spite.

Bats stomps the little furry.

If we remove factors such as his enhances senses, healing factor, adamantium skeleton, claws, above human level stats, etc, can the case still be made for Logan's skill surpassing that of Batman? I know that removing those things from Logan hampers him, and I don't think many people would argue the point of Batman being able to beat him if he has all those things going for him directly, but wouldn't Logan's mutant powers and enhancements amplify the skill he does have?

Serious question, but has Logan ever been completely depowered and rendered absolutely, for the sake of argument, "human" and shown skill to clearly surpass Batman?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpg

That look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.

This borders on spite.

Batman actually has legitimate non-PIS fueled skill feats to use in his favor outside of that crap of a comic.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpg

That look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.

This borders on spite. That's a nice feat but hardly a H2H achievement.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvsjla-confidential6.jpg

That look like fanboy bias to you? Mabye on your end...but batman beats the ever loving shit out of logan under these stips.

This borders on spite.

You are aware that people have been questioning the canonicity of Batman Confidential since the first arc when it essentially retcon'd the Killing Joke? Anyway... what does hitting Wonder Woman in the stomach and forcing her to breath in a mouth full of gas have to do with this discussion? This is a h2h thread.

Batman put down Grundy with pressure shots. Logan gets put in a coma with the thread stips.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You are aware that people have been questioning the canonicity of Batman Confidential since the first arc when it essentially retcon'd the Killing Joke? Anyway... what does hitting Wonder Woman in the stomach and forcing her to breath in a mouth full of gas have to do with this discussion? This is a h2h thread. Bruce kicks Logan in the stomach then forces him to breathe in a mouth full of fist.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If we remove factors such as his enhances senses, healing factor, adamantium skeleton, claws, above human level stats, etc, can the case still be made for Logan's skill surpassing that of Batman? I know that removing those things from Logan hampers him, and I don't think many people would argue the point of Batman being able to beat him if he has all those things going for him directly, but wouldn't Logan's mutant powers and enhancements amplify the skill he does have?

Serious question, but has Logan ever been completely depowered and rendered absolutely, for the sake of argument, "human" and shown skill to clearly surpass Batman?


Every time Wolverine has been depowered to a human level... he's been dying of Adamantium poisoning and barely functioning.

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman put down Grundy with pressure shots. Logan gets put in a coma with the thread stips.

Wolverine one shotted Rogue with pressure points, and unlike Batman, Wolverine has actually demonstarted the ability to successfully use pressure points on top tier martial artists.

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman put down Grundy with pressure shots. Logan gets put in a coma with the thread stips.

Batman.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Every time Wolverine has been depowered to a human level... he's been dying of Adamantium poisoning and barely functioning. So he has absolutely no feats to say he can do the things he does with normal skills.

Bruce breaks all his rips with one kick then smashes in his face.

LOL, thread is reduced to batman being a ligitimate H2H threat to Grundy. Awsome.

Is Cap a legitimate H2H threat to Hulk?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So he has absolutely no feats to say he can do the things he does with normal skills.

Bruce breaks all his rips with one kick then smashes in his face.

Wolverine is only barely superhuman to begin with, it's not like it is a drastic drop down to peak human. He'll be what? Half as fast, and 1/4 as strong as he normally is? He still has superior skill feats. Batman can't take the majority form Wolverine is a skill fight.

Originally posted by Juk3n
LOL, thread is reduced to batman being a ligitimate H2H threat to Grundy. Awsome.

Is Cap a legitimate H2H threat to Hulk? Actually yes...based on feats he is...sad but true.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine one shotted Rogue with pressure points, and unlike Batman, Wolverine has actually demonstarted the ability to successfully use pressure points on top tier martial artists. Well, I don't know what this "demonstarted" is all about but I intend to find out. Batman doesn't need to draw deeply into his fighting repertoire to fight what you consider top tiers. He simply bat-slaps then bat-kicks the mooks. Normal stats = Wolvie ending up in a pain locker. Logan gets a long rest via bat-coma.

Originally posted by Juk3n
LOL, thread is reduced to batman being a ligitimate H2H threat to Grundy. Awsome.

Is Cap a legitimate H2H threat to Hulk?

The Grundy's power level is different every time he rezes, Batman beating him is hardly a big deal. Daredevil tussling with Hyde is more impressive.

Originally posted by Juk3n
LOL, thread is reduced to batman being a ligitimate H2H threat to Grundy. Awsome.

Is Cap a legitimate H2H threat to Hulk?

Didn't Batman beat him on more than one occasion?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Didn't Batman beat him on more than one occasion? Yes. Just red herrings being thrown out there by people. durverine

Batman/Wolverine skill battlezone, srank?

Say, at the end of this week/early next week.

shit just got real

It'd be nice to see. Both characters have PIS and rather sketchy feats to fall back on as well as healthy amounts of legitimate showings. I'd prefer to see it settled one way or the other in the BZ.

Holy crap, Batmite!!

Originally posted by Badabing
Well, I don't know what this "demonstarted" is all about but I intend to find out. Batman doesn't need to draw deeply into his fighting repertoire to fight what you consider top tiers. He simply bat-slaps then bat-kicks the mooks. Normal stats = Wolvie ending up in a pain locker. Logan gets a long rest via bat-coma.

As a mod don't you think you should set a better example than trolling around with played out "Bat-kick" BS?

Wolverine has legitimate wins over top tier martial artists. Hell, he has even put the boots to characters who have effortless rolled Iron Fist. Now ask yourself this, what top tier martial artist has Batman ever beaten decisively with out the help of Robin? He has one highly contested win over Shiva (who may or may not have been mind controlled) that no one acknowledges... and other that is best win is probably Matches Malone koing Bronze Tiger with a cheap shot while he was fighting Catwoman.

Excuses, excuses.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Excuses, excuses.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Excuses, excuses. Originally posted by Mindset

Well, Srank just edited to ask week after that.

So, if Phil accepts, it should be on.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is the last week of classes, and I have to move the week after. Week after that? I'm free this week, and next week. After that I have exams after exams, unfortunately. I might be able to find a window of time - but I can't tell you for sure now.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As a mod don't you think you should set a better example than trolling around with played out "Bat-kick" BS?

Wolverine has legitimate wins over top tier martial artists. Hell, he has even put the boots to characters who have effortless rolled Iron Fist. Now ask yourself this, what top tier martial artist has Batman ever beaten decisively with out the help of Robin? He has one highly contested win over Shiva (who may or may not have been mind controlled) that no one acknowledges... and other that is best win is probably Matches Malone koing Bronze Tiger with a cheap shot while he was fighting Catwoman. Are you critiquing me!? I think I set a very good example, thank you. sneer

If you have a better way to troll the threads with the bat-kick then I'd like to see it! uhuh




And Batman bat-kicked the Spectre. vinOriginally posted by srankmissingnin
This is the last week of classes, and I have to move the week after. Week after that? Do the battle zone. Classes can wait!

durda

Originally posted by Mindset
Bruce kicks Logan in the stomach then forces him to breathe in a mouth full of fist. I've yet to see a defense against this.

Originally posted by Mindset
I've yet to see a defense against this.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Excuses, excuses.

So you think I should blow off my exams to fight with people on the internet about which comic character is better? lol

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So you think I should blow off my exams to fight with people on the internet about which comic character is better? lol WWWD

what would wolverine do?

He'd probably start trolling the forums with S-N-I-K-T or something.

Originally posted by Mindset
WWWD

what would wolverine do?

Wolverine doesn't know how to use the internet?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He'd probably start trolling the forums with S-N-I-K-T or something. dunno why but this made me lol

Should just make it next year to save the good excuses.

"I'll be dead all this year, but next year I'll be free"

Srank going to win and badly. Enjoyable to read anyways.


Wolverine wins. He has superior showings against MA'ers. Batman nuyy hugging is amusing as always.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Srank going to win and badly. Enjoyable to read anyways.


Wolverine wins. He has superior showings against MA'ers. Batman nuyy hugging is amusing as always. Care to show wolverine having superior MA to top tier MAers?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Care to show wolverine having superior MA to top tier MAers?
what?

Dum Dum, why don't you battlezone phil?

Originally posted by Mindset
Dum Dum, why don't you battlezone phil? that would be epic!

Originally posted by Mindset
Dum Dum, why don't you battlezone phil?
because he did not challenge me and still waiting on masterbruce puss ass to step up.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
because he did not challenge me and still waiting on masterbruce puss ass to step up. I'd take you on this bruce vs logan who the more skilled MA. You up for it?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'd take you on this bruce vs logan who the more skilled MA. You up for it?
yup

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yup ok, it's on. I'm good to start any day next week.

http://blogs.westword.com/showandtell/00%20shit%20just%20got%20real.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, it's on. I'm good to start any day next week.
If you want to start next week instead of this week. Then it has to start after thursday because I have two major paper due on that day.

batmans to quick for wolverine

Seriously how many people in this thread seem to have major schoolwork within the next month?

I'm all done with my exams...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Seriously how many people in this thread seem to have major schoolwork within the next month?

I'm all done with my exams...
your done already? dude were not eve in may yet........

Originally posted by Robin Dc
batmans to quick for wolverine
this is about skill and HELL NO.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If you want to start next week instead of this week. Then it has to start after thursday because I have two major paper due on that day. ok thats fine. PM me once you're ready.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok thats fine. PM me once you're ready.
im ready right now. I rather whoop you real quick today. But if your set on next week then next friday it is.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
im ready right now. I rather whoop you real quick today. But if your set on next week then next friday it is. ok, its not a one day thing anyways.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, its not a one day thing anyways.
Thats all, I am going to need

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats all, I am going to need you realize we're debating skill right...not whether logan could beat bruce one on one...

Originally posted by Starscream M
you realize we're debating skill right...not whether logan could beat bruce one on one...
Yes, I know champ. You should be worrying about your self, not me. There a reason I want and have zero fear of battle zoning you.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://blogs.westword.com/showandtell/00%20shit%20just%20got%20real.jpg

p9hzOgrcI3o

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There a reason I want and have zero fear of battle zoning you. naivete?

Originally posted by Starscream M
naivete?
Call it whatever you please, all that matters, is that I win.

You already won?

Originally posted by Mindset
You already won?
I might as well have.

Originally posted by Mindset
You already won? He challenged Brucie.

Might as well start the celebration now.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He challenged Brucie.

Might as well start the celebration now.
so true

He is living Sheen style:

J0NIMTPYYcU

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I might as well have. I'll laugh like hell if brucy wins.

And not to be mean to brucy or anything...but beating him in battlezone, wouldn't be like beating philo. I'm sure philo is just much better educated on batman skill and has more scans of it than brucy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'll laugh like hell if brucy wins.

And not to be mean to brucy or anything...but beating him in battlezone, wouldn't be like beating philo. I'm sure philo is just much better educated on batman skill and has more scans of it than brucy.

He won't.




I agree with you 100%. If I was versing philo, I want legit schedule time and a week or more just to get prepared.

Your taking on Bruce in a battlezone BH?

Good luck, you'll need it against someone like that. We should make it more interesting, like the loser admits the winner is the superior debater or some such.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'll laugh like hell if brucy wins.

And not to be mean to brucy or anything...but beating him in battlezone, wouldn't be like beating philo. I'm sure philo is just much better educated on batman skill and has more scans of it than brucy.

Philo is one of the better debators on this board. When he wants to be.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your taking on Bruce in a battlezone BH?

Good luck, you'll need it against someone like that. We should make it more interesting, like the loser admits the winner is the superior debater or some such. I'm up for that. I'll admit dum dum is the better debator if he wins.

Now we just need some judges...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your taking on Bruce in a battlezone BH?

Good luck, you'll need it against someone like that. We should make it more interesting, like the loser admits the winner is the superior debater or some such.
yup



I like that idea. so im down.

Hmm so the two characters with the most fanboys spark a battlezone how lovely

Originally posted by iceman24567
Hmm so the two characters with the most fanboys spark a battlezone how lovely

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm up for that. I'll admit dum dum is the better debator if he wins.

Now we just need some judges... I'll be a judge.

I'll judge if you guys promise to not talk forever. Set a post or time limit that's not ridiculous and I'm down.

Originally posted by Existere
I'll judge if you guys promise to not talk forever. Set a post or time limit that's not ridiculous and I'm down. I'm fine with you and bbz as judges

do you have any suggestions for post or time limit? neither of us have much debating experience

Originally posted by Existere
I'll judge if you guys promise to not talk forever. Set a post or time limit that's not ridiculous and I'm down. This. No 10 page long debates.Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm fine with you and bbz as judges

do you have any suggestions for post or time limit? neither of us have much debating experience Mabye...20 posts per person? Just a random number. That way its 2 pages flat.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
This. No 10 page long debates. Mabye...20 posts per person? Just a random number. That way its 2 pages flat. thats too much imo...I'd rather it be 10 posts max per person.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats too much imo...I'd rather it be 10 posts max per person. Well thats why i said 20 max. You can go beyond 10 if you really feel like debating furthur. And 20 posts per person isn't that much. If you guys want to end early you can.

Its like cooking something. You can always do some more but you can't underdo it.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I might as well have.

Maybe ask Digi to judge too.

Logan has trained with the Samurais and Masted other martial arts as well, He should give Brucey a damn good sweat.

I'll offer to join in judging this if you need more of them, guys.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'll offer to join in judging this if you need more of them, guys. sounds good to me.

so far we have

bbz
smurph
jake

I think we need two more for a total of five and we're good

I'll judge.

cool, just need one more. of course dum dum needs to approve all the judges as well.

I'd judge but I'm too biased. Brucey's awesomeness gets him my vote by default.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Brucey's awesomeness gets him my vote by default. It's that smell of gunpowder, fast driving and sex. Permeates through cyber space with his every post.

I'll have to restrain myself when I take up this burden of judging.

You're a stronger man than I.

He won my heart with a leopard blow a long time ago.

I'd be up for judging.

ok, we got our 5 (although if you feel you're going to be biased, I'd advise you to recuse yourself)

bbz
smurph
jake
mindset
omega vision

Originally posted by Starscream M
batman. pretty clear win imo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, we got our 5 (although if you feel you're going to be biased, I'd advise you to recuse yourself)

bbz
smurph
jake
mindset
omega vision
I don't think my bias will be a problem. I'm naturally biased against Logan but I'm also naturally biased against you...so it balances out to neutrality. awesome

I love both of you evenly.

Interesting choices guys. I'm looking forward to seeing this; I hope it goes forward...

I think Jinzin and Srank should be judges. mmm

Originally posted by Badabing
I think Jinzin and Srank should be judges. mmm

2 votes for Wolverine.

Originally posted by Badabing
I think Jinzin and Srank should be judges. mmm ya mean dum dum's left and right testicles?

But I do want Bada to judge.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ya mean dum dum's left and right testicles? I lol'd.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ya mean dum dum's left and right testicles? Originally posted by Existere
I lol'd.

Originally posted by Mindset


But I do want Bada to judge. if we add bada, then we need one more to get 7 judges

You guys have good judges. If needed, I'll fill in if someone drops out.

Let a mod know when the match starts so we can pin the thread. durverine batdur

Originally posted by Badabing
You guys have good judges. If needed, I'll fill in if someone drops out.

Let a mod know when the match starts so we can pin the thread. durverine batdur it'll start next fri/sat

Can't wait to see it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Actually yes...based on feats he is...sad but true. lol when?

he kicked professor hulk in the back of the knee once and tossed him as he fell back iirc. the next page hulk was going to snap him like a slim jim

james for the win. at 120 years old he has decades of h2h fighting experience that wayne doesn't have. imo logan also has a higher pain threshold with or without his powers. he has scared off mr sinister while his mutant powers were turned off, half skeletal, with strips of skin peeling off his face.

Those judges are fine, though I rather switch one of them out with bada

Also as for the rule, it should be 1- to 15 post max for each of us. We should have a week to post. Also pis feats are not allowed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ya mean dum dum's left and right testicles?

Win.

Also, as a member of the bat camp, I'm immensely opposed to Brucey representing Batman in anything resembling a battlezone.

Originally posted by batdude123
Win.

Also, as a member of the bat camp, I'm immensely opposed to Brucey representing Batman in anything resembling a battlezone.

Take the time to teach/coach him in the way of the Bat.

Or just scream "I GOT MAH CLIP IN!" to motivate him to win. Idk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Or just scream "I GOT MAH CLIP IN!" to motivate him to win. Idk.

I might do that anyway just for shits and giggles.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also as for the rule, it should be 1- to 15 post max for each of us. We should have a week to post. Also pis feats are not allowed.

PIS feats are more up to the judges, as there's a good chance you guys won't agree on what's PIS and what isn't, isn't there?

Originally posted by -Pr-
PIS feats are more up to the judges, as there's a good chance you guys won't agree on what's PIS and what isn't, isn't there?
true. I just trying to avoid batman batkick and some of wolverine more absurd feats against heavy hitters.

Originally posted by batdude123
Win.

Also, as a member of the bat camp, I'm immensely opposed to Brucey representing Batman in anything resembling a battlezone.



this should be historic. honestly, i cannot wait for this.

Originally posted by batdude123
Win.

Also, as a member of the bat camp, I'm immensely opposed to Brucey representing Batman in anything resembling a battlezone.

I Literally.. I mean Literally.. spit out my water when I read this...

Does this mean the Philo vs. Srank debate won't go down? I would rather seen that one actually.

Originally posted by batdude123
Win.

Also, as a member of the bat camp, I'm immensely opposed to Brucey representing Batman in anything resembling a battlezone. Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
true. I just trying to avoid batman batkick and some of wolverine more absurd feats against heavy hitters. There really is no avoiding the bat-kick...is there? biscuits

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Does this mean the Philo vs. Srank debate won't go down? I would rather seen that one actually.
Agreed.

I can see Brucie vs Dum Dum giving brain cancer at prolonged exposure.

On the upside that would save Srank from getting embarrassed.

Lulz

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Agreed.

I can see Brucie vs Dum Dum giving brain cancer at prolonged exposure.

On the upside that would save Srank from getting embarrassed.

How could I possibly be embarrassed? There is no evidence to support the stance that Bruce is more skilled than Wolverine. It would amount to ten long winded posts that can be boiled down to "Batkick!" and "He's Batman!"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How could I possibly be embarrassed? There is no evidence to support the stance that Bruce is more skilled than Wolverine. It would amount to ten long winded posts that can be boiled down to "Batkick!" and "He's Batman!"
As opposed to ten long winded posts with scans of Wolverine fighting Hand Ninjas and beating characters who's only feats that support them being great MAers is getting beaten by Wolverine? haw-som