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Not sure if this is "versus" worthy, but I think it is as it pertains to a technique/tactic that people attribute to characters used in the versus forum, so I think

Which characters in comics (DC, Marvel, Indy) actually speedblitz the most as shown on panel? I'm curious as to what other posters would actually define a speedblitz in their own words and which characters actually do this in character. I think some people define a speed blitz as character A moving/flying at great speed and delivering a chain of strikes before character B can adequately respond ie, "Combo to KO". And I've seen others use the term to describe a character making a single attack at such speeds that another character can't respond to.

What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character?

The first

I would call the latter a sucker punch / lucky punch, if he can counter agfter the first hit.

Quicksilver!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think some people define a speed blitz as character A moving/flying at great speed and delivering a chain of strikes before character B can adequately respond ie, "Combo to KO". I don't think there is any other way to describe a speedblitz, tbh.

But keep in mind that 'character B' doesn't necessarily have to be KO'd for them to have still gotten blitzed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character? Imo, members of the Flash Family (and co) are the only characters who speedblitz frequently enough on panel for it to be considered an 'in character' tactic... In DC, at least.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character?
Overwhelming your opponent with your speed and rapidly attacking at the same time for a certain amount of time.

One or two fast punches isn't speedblitzing however.

See the example. That's a fine example of a speedblitz.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/30767/1411935-speedblitz_super.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Imo, members of the Flash Family (and co) are the only characters who speedblitz frequently enough on panel for it to be considered an 'in character' tactic... In DC, at least. What about Supes?

He's definitely done it several times. However, blitzing is not usually his 'go to' tactic, as it is the Flash Family's.

no love for Cass? She may not be what you think of immediately 'cause she doesn't have high meta level speed, but she blitzes her opponents A LOT!.. even more than people like Superman.

In DC Flash's obviously. No one has more screentime than a Flash when it comes to speedblitz.

Marvel's traditional speedsters don't have as much screentime, but of those it's gotta be Quicksilver. Other types of speedsters (flyers) would be Nova. He's always using that part of his powerset to blitz.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What about Supes?

He's speedblitz are rare, but he does have them. Two examples, was Supes going against Brainiac Doomsday, and Imperiex Prime.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure if this is "versus" worthy, but I think it is as it pertains to a technique/tactic that people attribute to characters used in the versus forum, so I think

Which characters in comics (DC, Marvel, Indy) actually speedblitz the most as shown on panel? I'm curious as to what other posters would actually define a speedblitz in their own words and which characters actually do this in character. I think some people define a speed blitz as character A moving/flying at great speed and delivering a chain of strikes before character B can adequately respond ie, "Combo to KO". And I've seen others use the term to describe a character making a single attack at such speeds that another character can't respond to.

What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character?

A viable speedblitz would be both me thinks. Multiple strikes on one opponent before they adequately retaliate or multiple strikes on a group before they adequately retaliate.

Flashes and Quicksilver are the only ones imo. The rest have them on rare occassions.

Have a question... some people have different definitions of speed blitz. Look at Gladiator in this scan and tell me if you would consider this a speed blitz.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/RespectThread/Vulcan/fights/fight%205/5.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Have a question... some people have different definitions of speed blitz. Look at Gladiator in this scan and tell me if you would consider this a speed blitz.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/RespectThread/Vulcan/fights/fight%205/5.jpg

Not especially. Looks more like skill to me than actual speed.

It seems DC does it more than Marvel

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not especially. Looks more like skill to me than actual speed.

The reason I asked is because he was carrying someone and he was some distance away from Rachel and as soon she said "hey" he was right on her with a punch.

He basically covered the distance instantly.

Originally posted by carver9
The reason I asked is because he was carrying someone and he was some distance away from Rachel and as soon she said "hey" he was right on her with a punch.

He basically covered the distance instantly.

i'm not so sure; there's no hint of superspeed motion. we don't know how much time passed between those two panels, and tbh, if we started allowing pages like that as speed feats, a lot of other characters that don't even technically have super-speed feats would suddenly have dozens to work with.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm not so sure; there's no hint of superspeed motion. we don't know how much time passed between those two panels, and tbh, if we started allowing pages like that as speed feats, a lot of other characters that don't even technically have super-speed feats would suddenly have dozens to work with.

Gotcha.

I was just wondering.

Hey, if we could use it, Cyclops would be a speedster. mmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hey, if we could use it, Cyclops would be a speedster. mmm



Lol... whatever Pr.

Originally posted by carver9


Lol... whatever Pr.

It's true.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's true.

I don't think you can show me Cyke doing what I showed you.

Actually PR from looking at that scan it does appear some kind of speedblitz was performed. The girl realizes Glads is pwning that guy and the next instant her ass gets laid out before she can react even though Glads was more than a dozen feet away.

It's not a high end speedblitz, but a speedblitz nonetheless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually PR from looking at that scan it does appear some kind of speedblitz was performed. The girl realizes Glads is pwning that guy and the next instant her ass gets laid out before she can react even though Glads was more than a dozen feet away.

It's not a high end speedblitz, but a speedblitz nonetheless.

That's what I picked up from it.

Its kind of similar to this except with less panels.

I don't know if you would consider this a blitz either. He hits Cannonball with a pole... hits him some more while he was flying off from the impact from Glads hit and almost instantly he raps him up with the same pole.

http://img354.imageshack.us/i/53546629hw3.jpg/

Does a blitz always have to consist of punches or can it be something else? Is there a difference between speed blitz and just a blitz? Does a speed blitz consist of someone fly at a person at tremendous speeds and landing repeated blows and a blitz being just someone flying at you with high speeds landing just a single hit?

This question is for anyone.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think you can show me Cyke doing what I showed you.

Then read more X-Men. uhuh

Honestly though; hitting someone in one panel, then striking someone else across a room in the next is something that even low metas can do.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually PR from looking at that scan it does appear some kind of speedblitz was performed. The girl realizes Glads is pwning that guy and the next instant her ass gets laid out before she can react even though Glads was more than a dozen feet away.

It's not a high end speedblitz, but a speedblitz nonetheless.

But even if you go down this road, how would you quantify it? Before she can react? If so, we're going to see a lot more speed feats showing up on the forum, even from people without stated super-speed.

Originally posted by carver9
That's what I picked up from it.

Its kind of similar to this except with less panels.

I don't know if you would consider this a blitz either. He hits Cannonball with a pole... hits him some more while he was flying off from the impact from Glads hit and almost instantly he raps him up with the same pole.

http://img354.imageshack.us/i/53546629hw3.jpg/

Does a blitz always have to consist of punches or can it be something else? Is there a difference between speed blitz and just a blitz? Does a speed blitz consist of someone fly at a person at tremendous speeds and landing repeated blows and a blitz being just someone flying at you with high speeds landing just a single hit?

This question is for anyone.

that one is more a speedblitz.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure if this is "versus" worthy, but I think it is as it pertains to a technique/tactic that people attribute to characters used in the versus forum, so I think

Which characters in comics (DC, Marvel, Indy) actually speedblitz the most as shown on panel? I'm curious as to what other posters would actually define a speedblitz in their own words and which characters actually do this in character. I think some people define a speed blitz as character A moving/flying at great speed and delivering a chain of strikes before character B can adequately respond ie, "Combo to KO". And I've seen others use the term to describe a character making a single attack at such speeds that another character can't respond to.

What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character? runner 100% of the time

Sentry speedblitzed a lot in Marvel. Other than him (Gladiator too), I think speedblitzes were more common for the street levelers.

DC seems to use the speedblitz way more.

Originally posted by SquallX
He's speedblitz are rare, but he does have them. Two examples, was Supes going against Brainiac Doomsday, and Imperiex Prime. And Mongul if that was canon, he also blitzed Darkseids entire army and threw it back through a boomtube.

He also "speed dashed" Parasite and threw him into a swamp or something when a bunch of his villains gathered to take him down.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And Mongul if that was canon, he also blitzed Darkseids entire army and threw it back through a boomtube.

He also "speed dashed" Parasite and threw him into a swamp or something when a bunch of his villains gathered to take him down.

It is canon, yes. Happened more than once, too.

Originally posted by carver9
Flashes and Quicksilver are the only ones imo. The rest have them on rare occassions.

Nova uses blitzes very often.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nova uses blitzes very often.

I agree but not in the fashion of the Flashes (blitz coupled with high speed numerous of punches while still moving at super speed).

i think a few characters can blitz--they just don't do it all the time, but enough for it to be considered IN CHARACTER. at least in SOME of the battles. ie--in a battle with thor, superman might blitz a few times. i think when you figure how many out of 10 a character would take, you try best you can to take that into consideration. the problem arises when you want a winner of just ONE battle. IS superman likely to blitz someone in ONE battle? i honestly don't know. seems it could go either way. if not--because he DOES blitz a lot--not sure there are really any other characters aside from flash who are likely to blitz in character for a majority of the time.

i'd call a blitz simply an attack an opponent can't initially defend and has to weather at least temporarily--unless they have a shield already in place.

that's where blitzes get tricky because it comes down (often) to someone physically attacking BEFORE someone can even THINK defense. had a good go with ODG between superman and loki and i took the blitz stance and odg and i got into it over whether loki could react in time to defend it. it was fun. lol but i think that clearly defines the notion of a blitz--at least on the forum imo.

I generally see speedblitzing as two-fold:
- the attacker quickly gets within striking range.
- the attacker delivers multiple strikes before the opponent can react. Usually this is indicated by multiple images or some other visual means to deliberately, unambiguously indicate high speed.

If the attacker rushes in to deliver 1 or 2 strikes, I see that more as a bullrush.

Also, IMO, a speedblitz doesn't necessarily have to be a close-quarters / h2h attack, ala Superman or Flash. I believe the Surfer, eg, has speedblitzed whole starship fleets by zipping/darting about, striking one ship after another (again, he is speedblitzing the whole fleet, which may otherwise involve bullrushing each individual ship).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure if this is "versus" worthy, but I think it is as it pertains to a technique/tactic that people attribute to characters used in the versus forum, so I think

Which characters in comics (DC, Marvel, Indy) actually speedblitz the most as shown on panel? I'm curious as to what other posters would actually define a speedblitz in their own words and which characters actually do this in character. I think some people define a speed blitz as character A moving/flying at great speed and delivering a chain of strikes before character B can adequately respond ie, "Combo to KO". And I've seen others use the term to describe a character making a single attack at such speeds that another character can't respond to.

What do you define a speedblitz as and how often is it done in character? the first definition is a blitz, it requires no KO. the second one is just an effectively delivered blow.

I think it's in character for most people with superspeed to deliver some kind of blitz, be it h2h, blast based whatever. the percentage of times it appears in comics should be equal to what is attribtued to them in the 'out of ten' system, barring nonsensical events that only fuel the plot like forgetting one's pwoerset ina situtation where a character's personality would dictate he took action.

Originally posted by SquallX
He's speedblitz are rare, but he does have them. The speedblitzes are not rare, and Superman is the most consistent speed user of any herald-level character, baring Flash/Zoom types, to whom speed is their primary power.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree but not in the fashion of the Flashes (blitz coupled with high speed numerous of punches while still moving at super speed).

Blitzes a gang of super villians
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_01.jpg?w=72d9a0cc
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_02_03.jpg?w=37252bdf
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_04.jpg?w=937ade53
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_05.jpg?w=fe41560b

Plays possum then blitzes some criminals
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_013_18.jpg?w=df0f2cc3

Dodges laser fire then blitzes alien soldiers
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_016_16.jpg?w=a320831a
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_016_17.jpg?w=8a13b244

Blitzes Annihilation Wave bugs
http://s1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/?action=view&current=1299210948889.jpg

Temporary Nova blitzes Phalanx and spaceknight
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/Nova_5_0004.JPG?w=a0391741
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/Nova_5_0005.JPG?w=44680926

Blitzes Lord-Marvell
http://img808.imageshack.us/i/ti4headshotcps018.jpg/

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Blitzes a gang of super villians
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_01.jpg?w=72d9a0cc
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_02_03.jpg?w=37252bdf
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_04.jpg?w=937ade53
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_010_05.jpg?w=fe41560b

Plays possum then blitzes some criminals
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_013_18.jpg?w=df0f2cc3

Dodges laser fire then blitzes alien soldiers
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_016_16.jpg?w=a320831a
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/nova_v2_016_17.jpg?w=8a13b244

Blitzes Annihilation Wave bugs
http://s1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/?action=view&current=1299210948889.jpg

Temporary Nova blitzes Phalanx and spaceknight
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/Nova_5_0004.JPG?w=a0391741
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Nova%20Speed/Nova_5_0005.JPG?w=44680926

Blitzes Lord-Marvell
http://img808.imageshack.us/i/ti4headshotcps018.jpg/

Nice feats.

Have a question.

Has anyone in Marvel or DC fought so fast that it appears as if time stopped?

Another question... has anyone ever fought to the point where the entire fight was invisible to the necked eye. Not just a blitz at blinding speed... I'm referring to an entire fight taking place at invisible speeds.

I see a lot of people typing "character "A" won't be able to see character "B" during a fight but I can't think of anyone doing this minus Flash.

Does anyone have feats of characters doing this?

Originally posted by carver9
Has anyone in Marvel or DC fought so fast that it appears as if time stopped? Zoom, Flash, and Superman come to mind.

Originally posted by carver9
Nice feats.

Have a question.

Has anyone in Marvel or DC fought so fast that it appears as if time stopped?

Another question... has anyone ever fought to the point where the entire fight was invisible to the necked eye. Not just a blitz at blinding speed... I'm referring to an entire fight taking place at invisible speeds.

I see a lot of people typing "character "A" won't be able to see character "B" during a fight but I can't think of anyone doing this minus Flash.

Does anyone have feats of characters doing this?

Zoom and Flash obviously. Makkari Eternals Vol 3 i think (gaiman run). The eternals were slowly regaining memories of their past lives and Mak did it while not fully aware of his full power. He stopped a hail of gunfire aimed at civilians. He commented to himself on why the time seems to have stopped. IIRC he plucked the bullets in the air and put them in a bucket?? Dont remember exactly.

btw were all the links working?

Originally posted by Galan007
Zoom, Flash, and Superman come to mind.

I remember Zoom and Flash doing it but when has Supes done the "fighting so fast time stopped or fighting so fast the necked eye was unable to see him".

Example... if I were to place Flash, Zoom, and Supes in a arena, would they be able to fight an equal opponent to the point where the entire audience wouldnt be able to see what's going on the entire fight?

I remember Zoom and Flash running around the planet but would they be able to perform that in such a tight spot?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Zoom and Flash obviously. Makkari Eternals Vol 3 i think (gaiman run). The eternals were slowly regaining memories of their past lives and Mak did it while not fully aware of his full power.

btw were all the links working?

Yeah, I seen Zoom and Flash do it but they used the entire planet to their advantage to up their speeds. i

Yeah, the links were working.

Originally posted by carver9
when has Supes done the "fighting so fast time stopped or fighting so fast the necked eye was unable to see him". Here's an example:

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6592/90007995.th.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I remember Zoom and Flash running around the planet but would they be able to perform that in such a tight spot? Unquestionably.

Originally posted by carver9
I remember Zoom and Flash doing it but when has Supes done the "fighting so fast time stopped or fighting so fast the necked eye was unable to see him".

Example... if I were to place Flash, Zoom, and Supes in a arena, would they be able to fight an equal opponent to the point where the entire audience wouldnt be able to see what's going on the entire fight?

I remember Zoom and Flash running around the planet but would they be able to perform that in such a tight spot? Haven't Wolverine fans argued that Wolverine can fight faster than the eye can see? Why couldn't Superman?

Carver, you've been shown examples before.

Originally posted by Galan007
Here's an example:

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6592/90007995.th.jpg
He's not fighting, it doesn't count.

Kind of like him rebuilding cities in moments doesn't count for his combat speed, you see.

Originally posted by Galan007
Here's an example:

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6592/90007995.th.jpg

Unquestionably.

That's kind of different don't you think? He sped up his scenses. Kind of different than what I am asking for.

Originally posted by Galan007

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6592/90007995.th.jpg


Love it.

Talking at relativistic speeds. If you are a speedster, even your voice is faster than sound. lolwut.



*bashes head on desk*

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Haven't Wolverine fans argued that Wolverine can fight faster than the eye can see? Why couldn't Superman?

I'm a HUGE Wolverine fan and I have never seen him do this. I don't think you all understand my question because with this post, its pretty clear you don't.

@Pr... you showed me Superman blitzing Doomsday faster than the eye could see... that's not what I am asking.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Love it.

Talking at relativistic speeds. If you are a speedster, even your voice is faster than sound. lolwut.



*bashes head on desk*

Originally posted by CosmicComet
http://omgif.gosedesign.net/wp-content/deal-with-it.gif

Originally posted by carver9
I'm a HUGE Wolverine fan and I have never seen him do this. I don't think you all understand my question because with this post, its pretty clear you don't.

@Pr... you showed me Superman blitzing Doomsday faster than the eye could see... that's not what I am asking.

I showed you more than that. But go on; what were you asking for?

Giving myself a minor concussion = dealing with it.

Just forget my question.

Originally posted by carver9
Nice feats.

Have a question.

Has anyone in Marvel or DC fought so fast that it appears as if time stopped?

Another question... has anyone ever fought to the point where the entire fight was invisible to the necked eye. Not just a blitz at blinding speed... I'm referring to an entire fight taking place at invisible speeds.

I see a lot of people typing "character "A" won't be able to see character "B" during a fight but I can't think of anyone doing this minus Flash.

Does anyone have feats of characters doing this? Celey, show him the scans where Nova and his team took out the serpents so fast that it was all invisible to the naked eye.

Originally posted by dmills
Celey, show him the scans where Nova and his team took out the serpents so fast that it was all invisible to the naked eye.

nah... im on my mobile now.. bleh....

Originally posted by carver9
I'm a HUGE Wolverine fan and I have never seen him do this. I don't think you all understand my question because with this post, its pretty clear you don't.

@Pr... you showed me Superman blitzing Doomsday faster than the eye could see... that's not what I am asking. I was just talking about the last part.

Originally posted by dmills
Celey, show him the scans where Nova and his team took out the serpents so fast that it was all invisible to the naked eye.

Wasn't that fight done off panel?

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't that fight done off panel?

nah dont think so..

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Love it.

Talking at relativistic speeds. If you are a speedster, even your voice is faster than sound. lolwut.



*bashes head on desk* http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supermanbarrywarping1.jpg

In some cases their voice is ftl too. Just stuff that must be taken how it is otherwise stories wouldn't work (for both companies) same goes for space travelling.

Originally posted by carver9
Nice feats.

Have a question.

Has anyone in Marvel or DC fought so fast that it appears as if time stopped?

Another question... has anyone ever fought to the point where the entire fight was invisible to the necked eye. Not just a blitz at blinding speed... I'm referring to an entire fight taking place at invisible speeds.

I see a lot of people typing "character "A" won't be able to see character "B" during a fight but I can't think of anyone doing this minus Flash.

Does anyone have feats of characters doing this?

This is Makkari not even fully aware of what he's capable of. His abilities as an eternal is coming back to him slowly. There's some kind of Doppler effect happening to him in his "red" and "blue" perception. I think that has something to do with something moving at around light speed.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-023.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-024.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-025.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-003.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-004.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-005.jpg

In DC you got more than a few examples but in Marvel it's rarer.

Nova and Makkari were already mentioned, but were Northstar and Aurora? Those are the only other characters that I recall speedblitzing on a regular basis. They are NOWHERE near as fast as the DC crew but Mach 10 flight speeds/blitzes are not bad at all!

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think there is any other way to describe a speedblitz, tbh.

But keep in mind that 'character B' doesn't necessarily have to be KO'd for them to have still gotten blitzed.

Imo, members of the Flash Family (and co) are the only characters who speedblitz frequently enough on panel for it to be considered an 'in character' tactic... In DC, at least.

You forgot Superman

Originally posted by shokosugi
You forgot Superman Read at least the rest of page 1 before you post.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is Makkari not even fully aware of what he's capable of. His abilities as an eternal is coming back to him slowly. There's some kind of Doppler effect happening to him in his "red" and "blue" perception. I think that has something to do with something moving at around light speed.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-023.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-024.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-02-025.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-003.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-004.jpg http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Miscelaneous/e-03-005.jpg


Nniiiice...that's the kind of speed fts I like to see... I don't think people minus flash have anything identical. I low Gladiator does...he worked on a computer for hours at hyper speed.

Can anyone post a scan minus flash surpassing or matching this speed ft?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What about Supes?

Does it infrequently, but enough times to argue the tactic..

Off the top of my head, he's done it against Cyborg Supes, Bizarro Superman, Mongul Jr, and Lobo..

Personally, I usually just look at whether a character has the ability, and whether there's anything special about such a tactic, than whether he actually does it in comics..

I mean, Alan Scott manipulating time is within his range, but I wouldn't argue he does that.. But with a speed blitz, we're just talking about moving really fast and hitting someone. It's not a forgotten power or special skill they just don't use, it's the writers dumbing a character down...

Realistically, who WOULDN'T just pummel someone into oblivion if they have a major speed edge? That's why I chalk it up as PIS, and not CIS, because no ones so stupid they'd just slow themselves down to their slower opponents level..

Related question:

Lets say two people are fighting in the middle of an arena, with a crowd of people watching, including one hypersonic speedster that can catch bullets. The two combatants move so fast, they vanish in the middle of the ring.. To everyone, including the hypersonic speedster, it becomes an empty ring, but they're still in there fighting.

Is there any way the two guys in the middle of the ring can perform this feat and be sub light speed?

Thinking of a specific example, but I'm also just wondering..

Originally posted by cdtm
Related question:

Lets say two people are fighting in the middle of an arena, with a crowd of people watching, including one hypersonic speedster that can catch bullets. The two combatants move so fast, they vanish in the middle of the ring.. To everyone, including the hypersonic speedster, it becomes an empty ring, but they're still in there fighting.

Is there any way the two guys in the middle of the ring can perform this feat and be sub light speed?

Thinking of a specific example, but I'm also just wondering..


I know what example you are thinking of. Im not going to post the scan though.

Originally posted by carver9
I know what example you are thinking of. Im not going to post the scan though.

Indeed.

So, how fast do you think that is? Cconsidering that one of the characters that couldn't see them was actually much faster than the hypersonic character that caught the bullets, and yet they were still invisible?

Originally posted by carver9
Nniiiice...that's the kind of speed fts I like to see... I don't think people minus flash have anything identical. I low Gladiator does...he worked on a computer for hours at hyper speed.

Can anyone post a scan minus flash surpassing or matching this speed ft?

facepalm

Originally posted by -Pr-
facepalm

Originally posted by cdtm
Indeed.

So, how fast do you think that is? Cconsidering that one of the characters that couldn't see them was actually much faster than the hypersonic character that caught the bullets, and yet they were still

invisible?

It's kind of hard to say. How fast would you have to be to catch twelve bullets from a machine gun point blank range? Then the person that disappeared in front of the bullets catcher is far greater in size than the bullets. So he would have to be moving at a FAR greater rate since someone that can basically see bullets in slow motion was unable to see this person at all.

Then you also have to add the fact that the person that was moving this fast wasn't just moving in a straight line...he was punching, kicking, dodging, blasting, talking...etc, etc...faster than even super human eyes could see.

The speed has to he insane imo but only people like Darthgoober, or even H1 would be the best people to ask about those type of calculations.

Originally posted by carver9
The speed has to he insane imo but only people like Darthgoober, or even H1 would be the best people to ask about those type of calculations.

Stop.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Stop.

Lol...even though he is irritating sometimes...he is pretty good with math.

Don't let them get you down carver9. Everyone here is just jealous of H1's insane mathematical capabilities.