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think this would be a very cool battle visually. who takes it?

man, people just don't get metamorpho, eh? wonder why. such a cool character.....

his design classic is pretty poor, but his powers are cool. think pocccy wins, not too sure though

Apoc 6/10

I'll go metamorpho based upon apoc having a really crappy use of his powers and tend to lose

Hmmm, I think Apoc wins. Metamorpho is hella cool, though.

Metamorpho wins if he fights to the best of his abilities and if we just consider what people have actually done with their powers.

apocalypse from what i've seen of both characters. i'm also believe that apoc can (theoretically) do pretty much everything metamorpho can given his abilities.

Bump

Apoc is vulnerable to gas. Metamorpho 10/10.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Apoc is vulnerable to gas. Metamorpho 10/10.


http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7430599_apocgas.jpg

Metamorpho

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7430599_apocgas.jpg

huh. that doesn't bode well for him, that's for sure.....

That surprises me, I wouldn't have expected him to have such a weakness. Without it I'd have pegged him as a shoe-in to win.

Originally posted by Q99
That surprises me, I wouldn't have expected him to have such a weakness. Without it I'd have pegged him as a shoe-in to win.


I don't know why, Metamorpho uses his powers way better.

Metamorpho uses his powers better, but Apoc has more raw power, strength, and durability.

Originally posted by Q99
Metamorpho uses his powers better, but Apoc has more raw power, strength, and durability.


Strength and raw power, yes, durability, not seeing it.

You know you suck when you back down from gambit.

Originally posted by Q99
Metamorpho uses his powers better, but Apoc has more raw power, strength, and durability.

Depends on the showings. Very old showings such as vs. Inhumans + X-factor or vs. High Evolutionary were awesome.

Then you've got the Namor incident, the Dracula incident, the low showings in Apoc X-men 186.

On average he's...well....average.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7430599_apocgas.jpg I'm pretty comfortable in labeling as PIS

Originally posted by 753
I'm pretty comfortable in labeling as PIS


Originally posted by 753
I'm pretty comfortable in labeling as PIS

He was getting beaten (and stabbed) to death by vamp-turned Akkaba clan members in vs. Dracula as well. Frederick had to save him by teleporting out. After he gets bitten, rats, bats and dogs pwn him.

Like I said, on average, he's average.


http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432490_apocdrac1.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432492_apocdrac2.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432494_apocdrac3.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432498_apocdrac4.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432499_apocdrac5.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432500_apocdrac6.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432502_apocdrac7.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432488_apocdrac8.jpg

Originally posted by 753
I'm pretty comfortable in labeling as PIS

Why? Nur does need to breathe.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Why? Nur does need to breathe. he has survived unaided in space, but even if requires oxygen, he has a ****ing celestial tech armor bonded to his cells that draws mass from other dimensions, but cant cope with gas? c'mon

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
He was getting beaten (and stabbed) to death by vamp-turned Akkaba clan members in vs. Dracula as well. Frederick had to save him by teleporting out. After he gets bitten, rats, bats and dogs pwn him.

Like I said, on average, he's average.


http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432490_apocdrac1.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432492_apocdrac2.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432494_apocdrac3.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432498_apocdrac4.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432499_apocdrac5.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432500_apocdrac6.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432502_apocdrac7.jpg http://s1d5.turboimagehost.com/t/7432488_apocdrac8.jpg IIRC there was some contexto that, he was weakened or some such

Originally posted by 753
IIRC there was some contexto that, he was weakened or some such

Only for scans 7 and 8, he had been bitten by Dracula and was "weakened".

yeah, vs drac was NOT a good showing. as for the gas--i'd not call it PIS for the simple fact that it seems it (the air) was going to be transmuted INSIDE him. his armor could likely keep out a poison gas, or even create air for him to breathe. but, in the scan, it seems the air inside his armor was to be changed. i think that's a lot different. it is also NOT something rex could replicate. he would need to change into a poison THEN get inside. the more i think about it, the more it seems to me apoc MAY be able to defend that, unlike the transmutation gambit threatened him with. still not sure, but i'm leaning towards thinking simple changing into a gas wouldn't work as well for him..... hrm.

In order to call PIS I'm pretty sure you'd need an example of him being unaffected by poison gas

maybe. i think that fact that he existed in space unaided would imply he could make his own air or didn't require air though.

Originally posted by leonidas
maybe. i think that fact that he existed in space unaided would imply he could make his own air or didn't require air though.

Which issue are you referring to?

his fight with the high evolutionary. the armor draws mass fromother dimensions for him grwo in size and he can transmute his own atoms. poison gas shouldnt do shit to him

When he fought High Evolutionary in outer space he changed his armour to cover his face. He does need to breath. He could have done this to avoid breathing in the gas.

The idea that poison gas can take down Poccy is practically absurd. He has displayed turning his insides into machinery. He most definitely shouldn't need to breathe anymore. He can control every molecule.

Apocalypse breaths... Until proven otherwise that is

I've seen him laugh in space.

Originally posted by leonidas
maybe. i think that fact that he existed in space unaided would imply he could make his own air or didn't require air though.

Surviving poison gas is different than surviving without air. Even if you don't breathe, many types of gas can kill you simply via skin contact

it's still pretty retarded people. why cant he make O2 inside his bloodstream? he's turned his body into a jet before.

Originally posted by 753
it's still pretty retarded people. why cant he make O2 inside his bloodstream? he's turned his body into a jet before.

Because he's a moron

Why when faced with the X-men in X-men 186 didn't he just use his superstrength to throw a piece of debris at Pulse instead of running and committing suicide?

Cause he's a moron. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Because he's a moron
well, there's no arguing with that

Originally posted by 753
it's still pretty retarded people. why cant he make O2 inside his bloodstream? he's turned his body into a jet before.

Simply making more oxygen wouldn't counter nerve gas. It directly attacks and shuts down the body's cells.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Simply making more oxygen wouldn't counter nerve gas. It directly attacks and shuts down the body's cells. and the armor cant keep it out? even if his lungs are lined with a permeable mucosa, which is pretty dumb, gambit warned him, he would have had time to cover the tissue and make it impervious. he tempers with his own molecular structure all the time

He said he would transform the air inside of his body

inside his lungs and like I said Originally posted by 753
even if his lungs are lined with a permeable mucosa, which is pretty dumb, gambit warned him, he would have had time to cover the tissue and make it impervious. he tempers with his own molecular structure all the time