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Who wins? Current Alan Scott.

Probably Zoom.

Has Zoom shown the ability to effect or otherwise get to airborne opponents?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Probably Zoom.

Has Zoom shown the ability to effect or otherwise get to airborne opponents?

i asked that before in the odin thread. apparently zoom is not very good if the guy can fly. i'd have thought he could at least use wind effects to attack indirectly. if sentinel is airborne at the start all he needs to do is worry about being able to hit zoom. not sure how he'd do that, though if it's a ring-style fight an omniblast should work.

if he starts in the air (and it's a ring) it should be sentinel's fight to win.

Couldn't Zoom just dodge or vibrate through every attack?

Rhetorical question.

He could.

Originally posted by Mindset
Couldn't Zoom just dodge or vibrate through every attack?

Rhetorical question.

He could.

but how long can he stay, er, vibration-ey....?

NOT rhetorical.

Originally posted by leonidas
but how long can he stay, er, vibration-ey....?

NOT rhetorical.

But definitely kinky.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
But definitely kinky.

mindset? i agree.

Originally posted by Mindset
Couldn't Zoom just dodge or vibrate through every attack?

Rhetorical question.

He could.

Zoom can't vibrate, only Speedforcers can do that.

But yes, he could dodge each attack.



He's also known for creating sonic booms by snapping his fingers, and I think he could throw stuff fast enough to be dangerous.

Originally posted by Q99
Zoom can't vibrate, only Speedforcers can do that.

But yes, he could dodge each attack.



He's also known for creating sonic booms by snapping his fingers, and I think he could throw stuff fast enough to be dangerous. Except he can and has vibrated through objects.

Originally posted by leonidas
but how long can he stay, er, vibration-ey....?

NOT rhetorical. As long as his stamina allows.

Probably all night.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except he can and has vibrated through objects.

Prof Zoom has, but any time Zolomon Zoom has was an error- he specifically does *not* have that power, a fact that's been made clear and used against him.

Originally posted by Q99
Prof Zoom has, but any time Zolomon Zoom has was an error- he specifically does *not* have that power, a fact that's been made clear and used against him. Lol, except he does have that power and it wasn't an error, sorry.

Originally posted by Mindset
Lol, except he does have that power and it wasn't an error, sorry.

It's an error when characters specifically state on-page that he doesn't.

Like when he had Bart held and Jay threw his hat at them because "Bart could vibrate through it, Zoom couldn't."


Remember, he's not 'actually' fast, he's just ahead in time.

Jay was wrong, because Zoom has done it.

I hope I've helped you clear up your confusion.

Originally posted by Mindset
Jay was wrong, because Zoom has done it.

I hope I've helped you clear up your confusion.

Jay was right, because he's not supposed to be able to do it, it's just some other writer got it wrong.


It was, after all, specifically explained and then demonstrated in practice, and it was a writer not as familiar with the character who messed up.

Was there an editor's note saying the writer got it wrong?

No.

OK.

I'm right, you're wrong.

Nothing to see here.

Originally posted by leonidas
i asked that before in the odin thread. apparently zoom is not very good if the guy can fly. i'd have thought he could at least use wind effects to attack indirectly. if sentinel is airborne at the start all he needs to do is worry about being able to hit zoom. not sure how he'd do that, though if it's a ring-style fight an omniblast should work.

if he starts in the air (and it's a ring) it should be sentinel's fight to win.

where are all the Flash/Zoom backers that would scoff at "starts in the air"?

hmm.............

Originally posted by Q99
Zoom can't vibrate, only Speedforcers can do that.
I agree with Mindset, he has. I've seen it on panel.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
where are all the Flash/Zoom backers that would scoff at "starts in the air"?

hmm.............

shrug

i've seen him vibrate as well, but only for brief periods of time so a sustained omniblast should still be enough to garner the win.

and that's all it takes--someone to be in the air against this unbeatable forum force??? hmmm....

Originally posted by leonidas
shrug

i've seen him vibrate as well, but only for brief periods of time so a sustained omniblast should still be enough to garner the win.

and that's all it takes--someone to be in the air against this unbeatable forum force??? hmmm....


hehehe...

my "starts in the air" comment was about the crazy flak I received for a similar thread a few weeks back. a deluge of "u stooped or something rebuttals"

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I agree with Mindset, he has. I've seen it on panel.

It has happened, but when a character shows a power that they're specifically mentioned not to have but a similar character does, do you assume it's not a mix up?

Because, again, Zoom has been mentioned as not having this power.

By a fallible character that wasn't Zoom.

I guess it's a good thing Zoom showed he could do it to end the confusion.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Has Zoom shown the ability to effect or otherwise get to airborne opponents? He has. Hal was in the air and manifested a construct around Zoom. After breaking free, Zoom proceeded to literally run on said construct, in order to get up to Hal.

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And yes, Zoom has vibrated through objects/opponents. If you don't like it, tough shiz. uhuh

Originally posted by Galan007
He has. Hal was in the air and manifested a construct around Zoom. After breaking free, Zoom proceeded to literally run on said construct, in order to get up to Hal.
uhuh so without the construct, zoom would've not been able hit hal then.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so without the construct, zoom would've not been able hit hal then. Probably not. Since Zoom isn't a user of the speed force, he can't preform some of the more obscure tasks they can (ie. running without a physical plane under him.)

His best bet against an opponent who was already in the air would be to either avoid their attacks entierly, and/or fire off some thunder-snaps/Zoom-blasts.

so this fight starts with Alan in air?

I wouldn't think so...

Originally posted by Galan007
I wouldn't think so...

hmm..
surprising the notion has not met much opposition... hmm....

Richard's balls wont massage themselves, celey.

Stop lollygagging.

Originally posted by Mindset
Richard's balls wont massage themselves, celey.

Stop lollygagging.

He should get back in the kitc..ehm, doing what he does best.

Originally posted by Q99
It has happened, but when a character shows a power that they're specifically mentioned not to have but a similar character does, do you assume it's not a mix up?

Because, again, Zoom has been mentioned as not having this power. It's times like this that I go to my go to source. Let me quote the late Galan double zero seven:
Originally posted by Galan007
Zoom uses his favorite maneuver on Flash, by plunging his vibrating hand through Flash's chest:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2655/zoom2ry3.th.jpg

It happened, deal with it queef sniffer.

Originally posted by Mindset
Richard's balls wont massage themselves, celey.

Stop lollygagging.


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