Classic Dr Strange vs Loki/Dr Doom

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Nihilist
Both sides get 1 day perp and know who they are facing.

So who wins ?

Sr J-Bieb
Team 2 easily

SasuOna
Doom and Loki really aren't up to the task of out prepping Strange

Hyperion Prime
Originally posted by SasuOna
Doom and Loki really aren't up to the task of out prepping Strange

Doom is up to the task of out prepping Anyone!!! Even the Beyonder and Galactus.sly

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by SasuOna
Doom and Loki really aren't up to the task of out prepping Strange I'm going to play dumb here, but what has Strange accomplished with prep?

Endless Mike
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'm going to play dumb here, but what has Strange accomplished with prep?

Summoned demon armies, gathered artifacts to counter the Infinity Gems, created dimensional traps for enemies, etc.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Summoned demon armies, gathered artifacts to counter the Infinity Gems, created dimensional traps for enemies, etc. Which Doom has done/Can do
Which wasn't terribly impressive
Which probably wouldn't do anything here

Just curious what's going to be Doom and Loki's downfall here

Black bolt z
Team 2 but not easily.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Team 2.

SasuOna
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Which Doom has done/Can do
Which wasn't terribly impressive
Which probably wouldn't do anything here

Just curious what's going to be Doom and Loki's downfall here

I'm sorry when has Doom summoned huge demonic armies within a day?

What Items does Doom have that can counter all the infinity gems?

No Doom stuck in a dimension where technology is useless and he and Loki are stripped of their magics won't do anything?

The main thing that makes this an undeniable stomp is the fact that Strange can have the Vishanti fight with him if he ever needs help. All those entities would have to do is think and both of them would be erased from existence.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by SasuOna
I'm sorry when has Doom summoned huge demonic armies within a day?

What Items does Doom have that can counter all the infinity gems?

No Doom stuck in a dimension where technology is useless and he and Loki are stripped of their magics won't do anything?

The main thing that makes this an undeniable stomp is the fact that Strange can have the Vishanti fight with him if he ever needs help. All those entities would have to do is think and both of them would be erased from existence. He summoned PR beyonder in a day. I'd say thats good enough.

I'm sure he has something to counter them one at a time like strange did.

And Strange knows of such a dimension and loki and doom will just let him?

You can't have other people fight for you. Otherwise surfer would rarely lose because he could have galactus fight for him.

Mindset
Originally posted by SasuOna
Doom and Loki really aren't up to the task of out prepping Strange http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1PbrMHuiS_k/TTeKeQr5zsI/AAAAAAAAATY/sVDZm1ySzTI/s1600/pineapple-express-laughing.gif

Hey everyone, point and laugh at this guy!

Endless Mike
It's not so irrational. What Reed and Doom are to science, Strange is to magic.

long pig
loki is on the level himself, adding doom turns into a thunder stomp. Loki has gotten more and more powerful over the part decade.

KuRuPT Thanosi
I actually agree with Short Twig for once

StiltmanFTW
Team 2.

long pig
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I actually agree with Short Twig for once You have the comidic timing of a syphilis outbreak.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by SasuOna
I'm sorry when has Doom summoned huge demonic armies within a day?

What Items does Doom have that can counter all the infinity gems?

No Doom stuck in a dimension where technology is useless and he and Loki are stripped of their magics won't do anything?

The main thing that makes this an undeniable stomp is the fact that Strange can have the Vishanti fight with him if he ever needs help. All those entities would have to do is think and both of them would be erased from existence. When he used it to beat up the Avengers including people like Wonder Man, Marvel, etc.
Now, I want you personally to show me when Strange has done this... EndlessMike being good people will do it for you though...

I wasn't aware Strange would be using the Infinity Gems here. What I said was true. It wasn't terribly impressive. He pretty much just reversed shit.

Where is that? How does he get them through it? How does Loki with the Norn Stones going intangible/invisible get pulled into a dimension trap?

Strange... getting the Vishanti to fight for him... ha.
Doom calls up God on his speed dial and God smites everyone.

Mindset
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's not so irrational. What Reed and Doom are to science, Strange is to magic. Except Doom is also an expert in magic, so...

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by SasuOna
Doom and Loki really aren't up to the task of out prepping Strange
http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/183831-1/Ronaldo_lolsatyou.gif

SasuOna
Doom is hardly a Strange level mage and Loki doesn't have the feats to put him near Strange in anything so yeah if your talking about their ability to use magic being a hindrance to Strange in a prep battle I'm laughing at you.
laughing

No onto what Strange can actually do to them. Giving him prep means that he has access to the orb of ogamotto and all his other magical artifacts which would means he has omniscience off the bat and that he could see whatever Doom and Loki are planning while hes actively countering whatever poor mans trap that they can conceive for him.
Even at that he can time travel quite easily and gain even more prep time and hinder Doom and Loki in whatever attempts they make against him.
http://imgur.com/Z31r6
http://imgur.com/I1sYP

Here we see Strange with a very small amount of prep aging a time anomoly ancient one with a substance that isn't magic He could easily use this to age doom out of existence.
http://imgur.com/sJU08

Here we see Strange with a small amount of prep again cast an illusion throughout an entire dimension and sealing it all along with its ruler in a dream.
http://imgur.com/qMUVT
http://imgur.com/LlA3K
http://imgur.com/iaOp8

So yeah while you keep being deluded and downplaying Strange allow me to laugh some more at the fact that you think he with any amount of decent prep time would ever lose to Doom or Loki.

Endless Mike
Your links aren't working

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by SasuOna
No onto what Strange can actually do to them. Giving him prep means that he has access to the orb of ogamotto and all his other magical artifacts which would means he has omniscience off the bat and that he could see whatever Doom and Loki are planning while hes actively countering whatever poor mans trap that they can conceive for him.
Even at that he can time travel quite easily and gain even more prep time and hinder Doom and Loki in whatever attempts they make against him.
http://imgur.com/Z31r6
http://imgur.com/I1sYP I hope you realize that Doom can time travel, and Loki has the connections to go back in time.

And everything you said here is against the actual rules of prep on this forum:
"Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell."
"Prep time of 10 minutes = 10 minutes relative to the character. So time manipulations wouldn't count for more time. Say Strange went back in time 2 years before the battle is scheduled to start. His 10 minutes would still be running, so he can't just arbitrarily give himself infinite prep time.

In other words, make prep relative to the character, not to their manipulations of time."

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html


Originally posted by SasuOna
Here we see Strange with a very small amount of prep aging a time anomoly ancient one with a substance that isn't magic He could easily use this to age doom out of existence.
http://imgur.com/sJU08

Here we see Strange with a small amount of prep again cast an illusion throughout an entire dimension and sealing it all along with its ruler in a dream.
http://imgur.com/qMUVT
http://imgur.com/LlA3K
http://imgur.com/iaOp8

So yeah while you keep being deluded and downplaying Strange allow me to laugh some more at the fact that you think he with any amount of decent prep time would ever lose to Doom or Loki. He could use that to age Doom out of existance? How does that work?
And if we're giving Strange the ability to summon an army, then what about Doom summoning an army, and having quite a few Doombots? Does he pinpoint Doom in the middle of this with that attack? Then you have what he did in the Clyde arc that makes me suspect that he can simply be aged out of existance.

Looks more like Strange just cloaked himself to me... And sealed a gateway to the dimension...

You just showed Strange doing a virtual none feat when everyone could accomplish it here, and him cloaking himself, sealing a gateway and sucking his tracks back... should I be impressed by that when he's facing two masters of prep? Loki makes himself exist every year through prep by killing a Skyfather level being. Doom got Beyonder's powers in less than a day.

I'll give you the aging feat though. That's the only impressive thing you showed.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by SasuOna
Doom is hardly a Strange level mage and Loki doesn't have the feats to put him near Strange in anything so yeah if your talking about their ability to use magic being a hindrance to Strange in a prep battle I'm laughing at you.
laughing

No onto what Strange can actually do to them. Giving him prep means that he has access to the orb of ogamotto and all his other magical artifacts which would means he has omniscience off the bat and that he could see whatever Doom and Loki are planning while hes actively countering whatever poor mans trap that they can conceive for him.
Even at that he can time travel quite easily and gain even more prep time and hinder Doom and Loki in whatever attempts they make against him.
http://imgur.com/Z31r6
http://imgur.com/I1sYP

Here we see Strange with a very small amount of prep aging a time anomoly ancient one with a substance that isn't magic He could easily use this to age doom out of existence.
http://imgur.com/sJU08

Here we see Strange with a small amount of prep again cast an illusion throughout an entire dimension and sealing it all along with its ruler in a dream.
http://imgur.com/qMUVT
http://imgur.com/LlA3K
http://imgur.com/iaOp8

So yeah while you keep being deluded and downplaying Strange allow me to laugh some more at the fact that you think he with any amount of decent prep time would ever lose to Doom or Loki. Dude...do you really want to get into a scan war of prep...against Doom?

Hyperion Prime
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Dude...do you really want to get into a scan war of prep...against Doom?


Doom is the prep king. He has taken over marvel earth how many times. The Beyonder and Galactus defeated. Doom is a beast.

SasuOna
I wish Strange was in Secret Wars but I understand why he wasn't he would have ended the conflict before it even started. Doom's plans ruined before he even gets a chance to attain power.

Yeah I'm pretty confident I can win a feat war if they want to play that type game. Strange has better feats then both of them could ever hope to have with that much prep.

Sr J Bieb okay so time travel is out thats fine they still wouldn't be able to counter his omniscience and no Doom wouldn't be able to avoid being aged out of existence like that those are fragments of Eternity so your basically saying that Doom is immune to Eternity's power aging him many millennia consistently? Why wouldn't Strange be able to pin point Doom out of a 1 million doombots? because you think Doom can hide from the eye of agamotto?

I don't need you to tell me what you think happened in those scans they say quite clearly that the lord of that realm and that entire dimension was placed in a dream and that he begins to view Strange and all his actions as such as well the 2nd scan even says the entire dimension is without time and is insubstantial as they are now in a dream.

The only cloaking spell strange placed on himself was as he was leaving and sealing the realm off.
Its not a non feat until you bring up something that Doom and Loki can do to match this besides summoning canon fodder armies.

Black bolt z
^ He isn't allowed to use his artifacts unless specifically stated.

Just like reed doesn't get his celestial killing gun in every prep battle.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by SasuOna
Sr J Bieb okay so time travel is out thats fine they still wouldn't be able to counter his omniscience and no Doom wouldn't be able to avoid being aged out of existence like that those are fragments of Eternity so your basically saying that Doom is immune to Eternity's power aging him many millennia consistently? Why wouldn't Strange be able to pin point Doom out of a 1 million doombots? because you think Doom can hide from the eye of agamotto? That is a huge run on sentence.
If by omniscience you mean viewing them while they prep, then no. That doesn't happen.
Doom was aged quite a long time during the Clyde arc is what I'm saying. I'm saying it likely wouldn't do too much negative to him. Apparently he's what, like thousands upon thousands of years old? Possibly millions. At least iirc.

Because Strange would be getting attacked by quite a lot of dudes and bros?


Originally posted by SasuOna
I don't need you to tell me what you think happened in those scans they say quite clearly that the lord of that realm and that entire dimension was placed in a dream and that he begins to view Strange and all his actions as such as well the 2nd scan even says the entire dimension is without time and is insubstantial as they are now in a dream.
It didn't say that at all to me. Looks more like Strange cloaking himself fooled the being.
Issue me though. I'd like to investigate

Originally posted by SasuOna
The only cloaking spell strange placed on himself was as he was leaving and sealing the realm off.
Its not a non feat until you bring up something that Doom and Loki can do to match this besides summoning canon fodder armies. Cannon Fodder armies don't beat up the Avengers.

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