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I personally think Doc can take him by himself, but whatever. Can he handle both power houses?NO

They make a sport of finding new ways to kill him each time mistress death resurrects him.

Thanos, easily.

In the Defenders, strange and surfer constantly amp each others stats by mixing power cosmic and magic together.

Originally posted by long pig
In the Defenders, strange and surfer constantly amp each others stats by mixing power cosmic and magic together. That doesn't save them from Thanos. He's far too powerful for other or a combination of the two. Strange himself admits he can't beat Thanos and Surfer can't even hurt Thanos.

That surely didn't happen in a story arc in which thanos was the main villain driving the story, did it? Of course it didn't. That would be silly.

Originally posted by long pig
That surely didn't happen in a story arc in which thanos was the main villain driving the story, did it? Of course it didn't. That would be silly. no more thanos amps allowed anyways

I mean Strange is already more powerful then Thanos
He could just amp Surfer to beat Thanos' ass himself.

Current Strange is a sissy.

classic strange right? I think they could come up with ways to defeat him

Current strange? Thanos DESTROYS them both

Classic? IMO team has a chance.

Originally posted by long pig
That surely didn't happen in a story arc in which thanos was the main villain driving the story, did it? Of course it didn't. That would be silly. He wasn't the villain he was the hero. Akt was the main villain. You're adorable when you try to make a point.

Team wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't the villain he was the hero. Akt was the main villain. You're adorable when you try to make a point. see, hyperion? This is your fault....

Originally posted by long pig
see, hyperion? This is your fault....

I need to get behind the wheel......right now....to reflect what I have caused.

Jesus will take the wheel as you sleep.......

Classic Strange could beat Thanos solo. Better TP(w EOA), TK, infinitely more versatile, backed by higher powers, better or equal energy manip,better reality and time manip, very uber shields....just better. He's even faster (at least he'd appear faster cuz he can slow time, making him seem to be moving instantaneously) I honestly think a blast from the eoa could one shot Thanos. Make him feel all the pain he's inflicted on others as well as forcing guilt. Even Dormmy can't handle a full on "penance blast". No evil can survive that blast.

Originally posted by long pig
Classic Strange could beat Thanos solo. Better TP(w EOA), TK, infinitely more versatile, backed by higher powers, better or equal energy manip,better reality and time manip, very uber shields....just better. He's even faster (at least he'd appear faster cuz he can slow time, making him seem to be moving instantaneously) I honestly think a blast from the eoa could one shot Thanos. Make him feel all the pain he's inflicted on others as well as forcing guilt. Even Dormmy can't handle a full on "penance blast". No evil can survive that blast. Strange himself disagrees and who is higher than death herself that backs him.

Thanks quan, you're not being a dick and you're actually reading other's posts. Seriously, I'm starting to like you.

Who is higher than Death? The Vishanti for one, according to the marvel handbook. Eternity, too. Remember, Thanos is the avatar of death? Well Strange is the avatar of life and Eternity. Thanos can't die because Death won't let him. Strange can't die cuz HE WON'T LET DEATH KILL HIM. And she's tried many times, he said suck it, blasted her on her ass and she admitted defeat by saying killing him would take too much of her finite energy. She ran away. No one can kill Strange except himself. Not all Strange's gods are above Death, but the're all above him together and all above Thanos individually. Strange is as powerful as the omnipotent god he steals from. They'll literally fight for him.

I don't know he Thanos has a soul, but he so, strange steals it. He can steal all Thanos's power, actually. And quan, give the whole "Strange said he couldn't beat Thanos" shit a rest. It's meaningless. Doom sure thought Strange could beat Thanos. I think, just like the IG feats, a character's self doubt shouldn't be a viable debate tactic.

Originally posted by long pig
Who is higher than Death? The Vishanti for one, according to the marvel handbook. Eternity, too. Remember, Thanos is the avatar of death? Well Strange is the avatar of life and Eternity. Thanos can't die because Death won't let him. Strange can't die cuz HE WON'T LET DEATH KILL HIM. And she's tried many times, he said suck it, blasted her on her ass and she admitted defeat by saying killing him would take too much of her finite energy. She ran away. No one can kill Strange except himself. Not all Strange's gods are above Death, but the're all above him together and all above Thanos individually. Strange is as powerful as the omnipotent god he steals from. They'll literally fight for him. We both know the vishanti isn't higher than death so don't post things you don't even agree with.

Strange isn't given added powers and isn't seen as the avatar of life story to story. Thanos has always been with death and besides just being called an avatar of death he is immune to death and beat the snot out of life's champion, mar-vell.


Strange was also outsmarted and beaten by WW Hulk. LOL.
Doom's henchmen have beaten the snot out of Strange.

Despite all this posturing Strange himself agrees he can't beat Thanos.

You know another thing Strange once said? He said he could defeat The Beyonder. So, that means Strange is god.

Originally posted by long pig
You know another thing Strange once said? He said he could defeat The Beyonder. So, that means Strange is god. Thanos has beaten the beyonder aka the maker on panel. abc logic doesn't apply since strange himself knows he can't beat Thanos. No shame in admitting inferiority to marvel's premiere badass, Thaney Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We both know the vishanti isn't higher than death so don't post things you don't even agree with.

Strange isn't given added powers and isn't seen as the avatar of life story to story. Thanos has always been with death and besides just being called an avatar of death he is immune to death and beat the snot out of life's champion, mar-vell.


Strange was also outsmarted and beaten by WW Hulk. LOL.
Doom's henchmen have beaten the snot out of Strange.

Despite all this posturing Strange himself agrees he can't beat Thanos. Yes, yes and Wolverine stabbed Thanos. He you want to low ball, let's do it. If you still want my respect, let's have a friendly fukkin debate. First, the fact the bots entered his house is BS. the entire Avengers couldn't do that. Stranged said GOD HIMSELF couldn't do that.And they didn't beat the shit out of him. I agree, he destroyed those characters, physically. If ANYONE engages physically, they'l lose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has beaten the beyonder aka the maker on panel. abc logic doesn't apply since strange himself knows he can't beat Thanos. No shame in admitting inferiority to marvel's premiere badass, Thaney Thanos. I was using your logic. i.e he Strange says it, it must be true. As for wwhulk, Strange's weakness is compassion. He broke his hands cuz hulk, as well as the writers knew Strange could end the whole thing in seconds. Also, bad writing cuz Strange doesn't need his hands to caste spells. And being a good guy, you won't see many blood lust debts like Thanos.

Plus Doom w prep ambushed Strange. So yeah. Means nothing. I have an idea, quan. Let's post scenarios of how we think the fight goes and the other gives his rebutal on why that wouldn't work and so on. How's that sound? In first.

Go first. Tell me from start to finish how Thanos wins. Nothing else.

Fine, I'll start. Give me a minute to write it.

Scenario one: As soon as they enter the battle field, Doc's shields go up. It's possible Thanos can blast Strange before he can react...no problem. The eoa reacts at lightspeed and flys around to intercept any blast shot at Strange. It's able to take in limitless energy. It also can eat people and send them to another universe. While this is happening, Strange stop time, walks over and destroys Thanos by saying "Satanish, take him". That's my first one.

2. Same as first. He shields up, which can tank galactus's blast. Unleashes the eye to run interference. Which gives him time to absolutely mind rape Thanos by making him feel every bit of pain and torture Thanos has ever inflicted. It worked on Galactus, it'll work on Thanos. He then has many options whilst thanos is in the fetal position.

Third: Strange steals his power from behind his shields. Easy as pie. I don't need to name all the people way above Thanos that Strange has power stolen.

Fourth: Knock knock. Who's there? The vishanti. The vishanti who? The vishanti gonna **** you up.

Five: Strange, from behind his shield blasts Thanos with a 100 percent blast from the EOA. thanos will NOT survive.

Six: Becomes 100 percent ZOM.. Thanos literally get's stomped. Oh, before I do another, remember Strange is a master techno-mage, too. So it's possible he can shut Thanos's tech off.

Seven: um....can't think of another right now. So I'll stop. Your turn, my friend.

DAMN IT QUAN! wait, I remember another: Strange puts Thanos in an unbreakable bubble that strips the person inside of his cosmic power. Like he did to zombie Surfer, who tried to blitz Strange but wasn't fast enough cuz of Stranges pre cog

Originally posted by long pig
Yes, yes and Wolverine stabbed Thanos. He you want to low ball, let's do it. If you still want my respect, let's have a friendly fukkin debate. First, the fact the bots entered his house is BS. the entire Avengers couldn't do that. Stranged said GOD HIMSELF couldn't do that.And they didn't beat the shit out of him. I agree, he destroyed those characters, physically. If ANYONE engages physically, they'l lose. Stabbing Thanos isn't beating Thanos. That's the difference as I give examples of strange being beaten not stabbed, slapped, or bitten.

It doesn't matter what one writer has said when another writer can do just the opposite. Doom's clever so give Doom credit for having Strange beaten before him.

Originally posted by long pig
I was using your logic. i.e he Strange says it, it must be true. As for wwhulk, Strange's weakness is compassion. He broke his hands cuz hulk, as well as the writers knew Strange could end the whole thing in seconds. Also, bad writing cuz Strange doesn't need his hands to caste spells. And being a good guy, you won't see many blood lust debts like Thanos. I wasn't using this as a means for Thanos to win he doesn't need to trick Strange like ww hulk had to. The point is strange was completely outsmarted and then beaten to a pulp. Strange can beat ww hulk all out I admit but ww hulk isn't even near Thanos' league he's a one dimensional brick.



Originally posted by long pig
Scenario one: As soon as they enter the battle field, Doc's shields go up. It's possible Thanos can blast Strange before he can react...no problem. The eoa reacts at lightspeed and flys around to intercept any blast shot at Strange. It's able to take in limitless energy. It also can eat people and send them to another universe. While this is happening, Strange stop time, walks over and destroys Thanos by saying "Satanish, take him". That's my first one. Fine doc's shields can be up. Thanos' power as death's avatar easily breach them. While depowered he throttled mar-vell the same guy who oneshotted the Magus with one blast.

Since you want to cbr this Thanos encases him in forceblock. It worked on power gem Thor who throttled Strange with prep and a team.

Originally posted by long pig
2. Same as first. He shields up, which can tank galactus's blast. Unleashes the eye to run interference. Which gives him time to absolutely mind rape Thanos by making him feel every bit of pain and torture Thanos has ever inflicted. It worked on Galactus, it'll work on Thanos. He then has many options whilst thanos is in the fetal position. 2.He can engage Thanos' mind all he wants. Thanos breaks people's minds and has broken the Maker's, Moondragon's, Fallen One's, etc. He also adapted to the supreme power through sheer force of will meaning Strange doesn't have a chance at even making Thanos break a sweat here.

3 badass telepaths from gotg could only mindlock him while weakened from a cc ko to a mindless Thanos. While still depowered these three couldn't keep him down so good luck proving anything here since it hasn't ever happened to Thanos at full power.

Thanos breaks strange.

Originally posted by long pig
Third: Strange steals his power from behind his shields. Easy as pie. I don't need to name all the people way above Thanos that Strange has power stolen. Name the people whose power he has stolen. I mean he didn't steal the doombots power, ww hulk's, power gem Thor's, etc. Thanos is death's avatar an entire universe wanted to destroy him and came up empty so good luck proving a guy who struggles with ninjas can do it when Strange himself states I can't beat Thanos.

Originally posted by long pig
Fourth: Knock knock. Who's there? The vishanti. The vishanti who? The vishanti gonna **** you up. Knock knock. Who's there ? Quanny. Thanos is going to b------k Stephen.

Originally posted by long pig
Five: Strange, from behind his shield blasts Thanos with a 100 percent blast from the EOA. thanos will NOT survive. Immune to death even if you were true which it isn't since he's taken blasts from Galactus, Odin, and Tyrant all more powerful than Steph-o.

Originally posted by long pig
Six: Becomes 100 percent ZOM.. Thanos literally get's stomped. Oh, before I do another, remember Strange is a master techno-mage, too. So it's possible he can shut Thanos's tech off. He can become another character he isn't beating the avatar of death who is immune to death. Strange has never ever shut down Thanos' tech before nor does he even believe he can beat Thanos. It's also a last resort to pull the Zom card but I can see you're desperate so carry on with the futility.

Originally posted by long pig
Seven: um....can't think of another right now. So I'll stop. Your turn, my friend. Thanos blasts him to death.

Originally posted by long pig
DAMN IT QUAN! wait, I remember another: Strange puts Thanos in an unbreakable bubble that strips the person inside of his cosmic power. Like he did to zombie Surfer, who tried to blitz Strange but wasn't fast enough cuz of Stranges pre cog What applies to the surfer doesn't apply to Thanos. Abc logic fail. It's like saying Odin kos Thanos like he did easily to Surfer even though he never ko'd Thanos.

1. Thanos probably can, after a while, break Strange's shields. He doesn't have a while. He has seconds before he's frozen. And Thanos needed a gun to force block. Not part of his standard equip. So, we agree Strange wins that scenario. 2. None of the people you mentioned are on Strange's level. He's a multiversal TP. Add the EOA and he's got skyfather level TP. Either way, Thanos's mind isn't better than Galactus's or Aggomatto. 3. Name some people Strange has taken power from? Seriously? Shuma, his Infinite, Cap Universe....Dormm. All more powerful than Thanos. He absolutely can steal Thanos's power. But it's black magic. 4. Thanos can beat the entire Vishanti? Please. They're three skyfathers. 5. Nothing evil can take a blast from the EOA. If he can't die, then he's k.o'd. It's not some energy blast. 6. He can zom out if he's forced. And whether or not he has shut down his tech doesn't mean he can't. 7. I can agree. Still, it could work. anyway, now YOU name the scenarios in which Thanos wins. GO!

Write them out in detail so I know what you mean and can try and understand you.

So, you're not willing to put your argument out there to be critiqued, instead you opt to simply say Thanos wins? That's not ****ing acceptable, quan. I'll kill you. Kill you hard.

Some people are still trolling by using subjective dialogue, low-balling feats and outright distorting characters and their powersets. I guess Pr and I can put a stop to it, or certain posters can stop for themselves. Either or really.

Surfer kills them both for boring the shit out of him!

FTW!

Originally posted by long pig
So, you're not willing to put your argument out there to be critiqued, instead you opt to simply say Thanos wins? That's not ****ing acceptable, quan. I'll kill you. Kill you hard. I am not a fan of arguing what I'd do with the characters powerset I instead go for what these characters would most likely do.


Originally posted by long pig
1. Thanos probably can, after a while, break Strange's shields. He doesn't have a while. He has seconds before he's frozen. And Thanos needed a gun to force block. Not part of his standard equip. So, we agree Strange wins that scenario. 2. None of the people you mentioned are on Strange's level. He's a multiversal TP. Add the EOA and he's got skyfather level TP. Either way, Thanos's mind isn't better than Galactus's or Aggomatto. 3. Name some people Strange has taken power from? Seriously? Shuma, his Infinite, Cap Universe....Dormm. All more powerful than Thanos. He absolutely can steal Thanos's power. But it's black magic. 4. Thanos can beat the entire Vishanti? Please. They're three skyfathers. 5. Nothing evil can take a blast from the EOA. If he can't die, then he's k.o'd. It's not some energy blast. 6. He can zom out if he's forced. And whether or not he has shut down his tech doesn't mean he can't. 7. I can agree. Still, it could work. anyway, now YOU name the scenarios in which Thanos wins. GO! 1.Seconds to where he's frozen based off of what ? Whop has Strange frozen in mere seconds who is a good comparison to Thanos to make the call here.

Thanos added the force block power to his own personal tech and had no gun when he tried it on Odin.

2.Strange isn't multiversal nor has he ever been written so. He's up there with the whole magic thing as it makes for awonderful plot device but he isn't consistently portrayed as multiversal but humor me which issues is he portrayed in such a manner.

Skyfather level tp is there even such a thing ? Thanos' mind has adapted to supreme power I doubt you can find a better or more conclusive feat by anyone.

3.Ok, but how is he stealing death's power which is what Thanos had in ti. Didn't Strange run into death before so why didn't he just steal her power since your claiming it's that easy since he stole other beings power before.
I think as death's unkillable avatar his benefactor in terms of power highly outranks the vishanti.

Thanos isn't evil persay more of an anti hero. He saved our entire universe how many times ?

The only thing shown capable of koing a mindless Thanos was the cc which is more powerful than Strange.

6.It won't help if he zom's out and that's kinda admitting under his own power he can't beat Thanos anyways.

You can't use abc logic especially considering what Thanos' tech has done. It stopped power gem Thor which Strange was unable to do.

I described my scenario. I think Thanos' blasts as death's avatar just kill Strange since he brings death to those he wants to ala thanos imperative.

I don't want to do a feat by feat cbr type fashion style debate here. I want to show you how these two are consistently portrayed Thanos would wear down and kill Strange.

Strange can't die, either.....so?

Quan, are you aware I'm trying to lead you into a trap? Is that why you won't play along? You dick.

Either way. You said that "if Strange can absorb Thanos's power", which you equate to Death's, then, "why didn't Strange absorb Death's powers when they fought?" Then you said "Thanos can kill Strange using Death's powers". I want you to see how bad of a point that is to hang the base of your argument. I say to you, Why would Thanos be able to kill Strange by using a portion of Death's powers when, Death herself couldn't do it herself while using all her powers? Is Thanos greater than his own God? No more double standards, bro.

And I didn't even know this until today. I did some research about Strange being Life's/Eternity's avatar. I found out he totally gets a power up by it. When his life is in danger of ending, an ankh appears on his forehead and he gets a huge dose of energy from the AO, who is one with eternity. Basically if he's near death, that appears and he gets enough power to defeat his enemy. I've never even heard of that.

Originally posted by long pig
Quan, are you aware I'm trying to lead you into a trap? Is that why you won't play along? You dick. I'm immune to traps.

Originally posted by long pig
Either way. You said that "if Strange can absorb Thanos's power", which you equate to Death's, then, "why didn't Strange absorb Death's powers when they fought?" Then you said "Thanos can kill Strange using Death's powers". I want you to see how bad of a point that is to hang the base of your argument. I say to you, Why would Thanos be able to kill Strange by using a portion of Death's powers when, Death herself couldn't do it herself while using all her powers? Is Thanos greater than his own God? No more double standards, bro. Death isn't unable to kill Strange it's like saying why didn't the Void kill Thor despite showing he had the power to. Just because something doesn't happen doesn't mean in a forum fight it won't happen. These companies don't kill off heroes all that often and it's all to make money in the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm immune to traps.


You must be awesome at Yu Gi Oh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm immune to traps.

Death isn't unable to kill Strange it's like saying why didn't the Void kill Thor despite showing he had the power to. Just because something doesn't happen doesn't mean in a forum fight it won't happen So NOW you say that what happens in a comic doesn't mean it will be the same here? i.e Strange saying he can't beat Thanos can't be used by you as proof without contradicting yourself. And you're absolutely wrong in your analogy. Death never showed the ability to beat Strange. And she tried. Anyway, in your logic, just because Strange doesn't dominate Thanos in comics, it doesn't mean he can't. Right? Strange wins ez time stop. Time stop doesn't need to break his shields to work. Force block needs to break Strange's shield to work.

I'll end this discution:

Classic Strange: Team stomp Thanos
Current versions of everyone: Thanos carve them new assholes in the middle of the face

Originally posted by long pig
So NOW you say that what happens in a comic doesn't mean it will be the same here? i.e Strange saying he can't beat Thanos can't be used by you as proof without contradicting yourself. And you're absolutely wrong in your analogy. Death never showed the ability to beat Strange. And she tried. Anyway, in your logic, just because Strange doesn't dominate Thanos in comics, it doesn't mean he can't. Right? Strange wins ez time stop. Time stop doesn't need to break his shields to work. Force block needs to break Strange's shield to work. Are you saying death can't kill strange with her power ?

You're trying to use strange at his absolute best while ignoring average and low end portrayals. Thanos' average is far above strange's.

Strange and Thanos both went up against power gem Thor. Thanos won while strange sent him to Thanos because he couldn't deal with him. That's very telling.