Freddy Krueger vs. Wishmaster

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quanchi112
Freddy's victim on elm street has set loose the Djinn. The Djinn seeks to protect the summoner. The Djinn appears in the dream to protect the teenager. Who wins ?

the ninjak
Fear the Djinn.

Especially when the teenager says "kill the Dream Master".

thanos-prime
I doubt the teenager would survive as Freddy has so many insta-kill attacks he could do but in a fight between the two the Djinn wins imo.

Impediment
The only way Freddy can kill the djinn is if the djinn is in dream world, where Freddy has mastery of all dream reality. In dream world Freddy is god.

The only thing djinn could do is grab Freddy and wake up. Still, even in the real world Freddy is tough and djinn couldn't harm Freddy unless he makes a wish.

Robtard
Which Wish Master was it where the Djinn made some dude literally **** himself?

thanos-prime
Originally posted by Impediment
The only way Freddy can kill the djinn is if the djinn is in dream world, where Freddy has mastery of all dream reality. In dream world Freddy is god.

The only thing djinn could do is grab Freddy and wake up. Still, even in the real world Freddy is tough and djinn couldn't harm Freddy unless he makes a wish. Freddy can't harm the djinn at all, all djinn are immortal the only way to beat them are to trap them.Wasn't there a sceen in one of the wishmaster movies where the djinn is in a casino and he is killing people who didn't makes wishes?

quanchi112
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Freddy can't harm the djinn at all, all djinn are immortal the only way to beat them are to trap them.Wasn't there a sceen in one of the wishmaster movies where the djinn is in a casino and he is killing people who didn't makes wishes? If you kill the person who summons the djinn the djinn is defeated.

the ninjak
The girl tells the Djinn to wake her up and kill Freddy. Djinn drags Freddy back into the physical and destroys the Dream Demons inside Freddy. Or even in the psychic plane.

The Djinn rates as the highest of Demons. Those that can perform any feat and usher in Armagedon. And they come from a psychic plane so fighting a Dream Master in such a plane should'nt be much of a problem wit the Djinn.

I wouldn't be surprised if when the Djinn shows up the Dream Demons tell Freddy to shut up and let the girl go.

If the Dream Warriors, simple children could challenge Freddy briefly or a teenage girl could defeat him with her will. Then the sheer knowledge and confidence the Djinn would exude in Dreamworld would overwhelm Freddy.

BruceSkywalker
Freddy's only chance of survival before the djinn wishes him out of existence would be to make sure that hollywood never ever reboots the elm street franchise stick out tongue

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
The girl tells the Djinn to wake her up and kill Freddy. Djinn drags Freddy back into the physical and destroys the Dream Demons inside Freddy. Or even in the psychic plane.

The Djinn rates as the highest of Demons. Those that can perform any feat and usher in Armagedon. And they come from a psychic plane so fighting a Dream Master in such a plane should'nt be much of a problem wit the Djinn.

I wouldn't be surprised if when the Djinn shows up the Dream Demons tell Freddy to shut up and let the girl go.

If the Dream Warriors, simple children could challenge Freddy briefly or a teenage girl could defeat him with her will. Then the sheer knowledge and confidence the Djinn would exude in Dreamworld would overwhelm Freddy. Did you happen to watch wish master 3 ? The djinn looked very weak and flat out had to trick people into wishing. That isn't going to happen to Freddy.

I agree they are powerful not under this constraint but that's something they are always under. Not only that but Freddy can possess the dreamer making the Djinn powerless against Freddy because he can't let death occur to the summoner.

Freddy can reality warp and toy with the Djinn and make the dreamer/summoner deaf, turn them into a cockroach thus unable to talk, etc.

the ninjak
I never saw the 3rd movie it just looked too horrible.

The whole Freddy stopping the girl from talking is cool but Freddy won't know who the Djinn is. The Dream Demons would though.

It really depends on the girl. Freddy possessing people aint easy. When he puppet mastered that boy in Dream Warriors the boy did struggle and could talk.

Girl just has to say "wake me up". If Freddy is aware of her friend and puts a stell vice on her mouth sweet. If not Freddy's dead.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
I never saw the 3rd movie it just looked too horrible.

The whole Freddy stopping the girl from talking is cool but Freddy won't know who the Djinn is. The Dream Demons would though.

It really depends on the girl. Freddy possessing people aint easy. When he puppet mastered that boy in Dream Warriors the boy did struggle and could talk.

Girl just has to say "wake me up". If Freddy is aware of her friend and puts a stell vice on her mouth sweet. If not Freddy's dead. Freddy would know just like he knew about Jason Voorhees or he'd know by the dreamer himself through their mind.

Freddy possessed someone in freddy vs jason easily. He also possessed jesse in part 2. Who did he try to possess in 3 ?

I don't see the djinn being able to kill Freddy and I see Freddy being too clever with his reality controlling powers in the dreams. He could keep them separated quite easily.

the ninjak
Elm st 2 yeah he possessed Jesse. It was a long process though. I can't remember the feat in Freddy vs Jason. Was it in the physical realm?

laughing out loud I wonder if the girl can catch Freddy in the crystal. It's designed to capture demons.

the ninjak
Dammit the gem required some Arabic to activate it.

Shim Akra Habim!!!!!!

With some decent prep you could make the Djinn and Freddy roommates. laughing out loud

Dr Will Hatch
Originally posted by the ninjak
The girl tells the Djinn to wake her up and kill Freddy. Djinn drags Freddy back into the physical and destroys the Dream Demons inside Freddy. Or even in the psychic plane.

The Djinn rates as the highest of Demons. Those that can perform any feat and usher in Armagedon. And they come from a psychic plane so fighting a Dream Master in such a plane should'nt be much of a problem wit the Djinn.

I wouldn't be surprised if when the Djinn shows up the Dream Demons tell Freddy to shut up and let the girl go.

If the Dream Warriors, simple children could challenge Freddy briefly or a teenage girl could defeat him with her will. Then the sheer knowledge and confidence the Djinn would exude in Dreamworld would overwhelm Freddy.

And none of that means crap in terms of actual feats. Wishmaster demons could supposedly rip the wings off of angels too(or something like that), but we never actually see it on screen.

Freddy wins. His reality warping is simply better than the djinn's. Freddy warped an entire town into his playground and can literally erase people from existence. He also has a higher pain tolerance. He was laughing and making jokes while getting impaled, getting his arms ripped off, getting shot at and getting beaten up by Jason. Meanwhile, the djinn himself claims to feel pain even though he can't be killed.

And since when has the djinn "served" anyone? He's not friggin Belldandy, for crying out loud! The closest he ever came to serving anyone was when that bouncer guy told him to leave, and the djinn couldn't twist his wording around.

the ninjak
I love that scene.

Yeah I'm just having fun. Freddy wins this. Though I would like to see the scenario if Freddy in the real would discovered the gem.

And had to get rid of the Djinn before 3 wishes where cast.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
Elm st 2 yeah he possessed Jesse. It was a long process though. I can't remember the feat in Freddy vs Jason. Was it in the physical realm?

laughing out loud I wonder if the girl can catch Freddy in the crystal. It's designed to capture demons. In freddy vs, jason he turns into some kind of freddy caterpillar and jumps into the guy's mouth. He has control over him in the dream/real life.

the ninjak
Originally posted by quanchi112
In freddy vs, jason he turns into some kind of freddy caterpillar and jumps into the guy's mouth. He has control over him in the dream/real life.

Heh awesome.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
Heh awesome. The only horror villains I see giving Freddy trouble but still see him winning are Pinhead and Tall Man.

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