Darksiders 2

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Kazenji
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Impediment
Looks good.

I wonder what game they're going to copy next, since the first game was blatantly a shell of God of War and Portal.

BloodRain
Sweet, didn't expect them to jump horsemen.

No Famine or Pestilence love?

Impediment
For some inane reason, the developers changed Pestilence and Famine to Fury and Strife.

It's just "sounds cooler", according to them.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Impediment
Looks good.

I wonder what game they're going to copy next, since the first game was blatantly a shell of God of War and Portal. Considering only one gun was anything like Portal... Yeah.

Darksiders was God of War meets the Legend of Zelda.

Nephthys
TBF, you only need one gun to be like Portal.

NemeBro
Incorrect.

Darksider has a lot more to it than what it borrows from Portal. It has what it "borrows" from God of War and the Legend of Zelda.

Nephthys
Yeah, I agree that its more like those two, but gameplay-wise Portal is pretty much just the gun. If you ripoff the gun you ripoff Portal. I never said it wasn't like those two, but you can't deny its also like Portal with the portal gun.

NemeBro
I CAN DO WHATEVER I DAMN-WELL PLEASE.

Nephthys
YOU CAN TO ME NEMEBRO-SAMA! <3

NemeBro
I'd rather marry Quan.

Nephthys
love

Impediment
I just want more Joe Madureira art style games. heartbeat

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Impediment
For some inane reason, the developers changed Pestilence and Famine to Fury and Strife.

It's just "sounds cooler", according to them.

"Sounds cooler"? Screw that. Fury and Strife sound like they're gonna be War clones. They should keep Pestilence and Famine because I can see a lot of violent potential in those guys. For Famine, he can make his enemies so hungry, they'll eat eachother. For Pestilence, he would give his foes the mother of all diseases, the Bubonic Plague.

Utrigita
Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd rather marry Quan.

sad

BloodRawEngine
Originally posted by Impediment
For some inane reason, the developers changed Pestilence and Famine to Fury and Strife.

It's just "sounds cooler", according to them.

"Death would make things too easy, Famine would take too long, and what the **** is Pestilence gonna do, cough on people?"

I think they could add some nifty twists on the actual horsemen if they just put their minds to it; somethin' like Famine being this voracious eating machine with powers both devouring enemies or sicking such minions on them, or Pestilence being a status-inducer that makes his enemies into walking illness time-bombs. Sure the distinctions might be mostly cosmetic in that scenario, but I'm on the prediction that there will be even less than that if they take their liberties with the Horsemen. Not complaning or nothin', just saying that there are possibilities without the need of taking such strong liberties as outright omitting actual characters and replacing them with their own.

Of course, they could've also made a more unique game overall if they did that for the gameplay itself.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by Nemesis X
"Sounds cooler"? Screw that. Fury and Strife sound like they're gonna be War clones. They should keep Pestilence and Famine because I can see a lot of violent potential in those guys. For Famine, he can make his enemies so hungry, they'll eat eachother. For Pestilence, he would give his foes the mother of all diseases, the Bubonic Plague.

Based on the naming, I'd say Strife would be like War. Then again, War isn't really affiliated with the concept of War in Darksiders.

Also, Death is quite powerful. He was said to be near invulnerable, and easily pwned a younger War.

Originally posted by Impediment
For some inane reason, the developers changed Pestilence and Famine to Fury and Strife.

It's just "sounds cooler", according to them.

The 4 Horsemen in Darksiders are their creation based on the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and they get to do what they want to do with them. It's as simple as that really.

Besides, there is no 'Pestilence' Horseman in the Original Source anyway.

Estacado
New combat style.....looting....skill tree......more upgrades......etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIy946U3648

Impediment
Awesome.

jinXed by JaNx
Thought the first, Darksiders was an underrated game with a rather interesting story. I'll be looking forward to this one.

Smasandian
It was underrated for sure but because it was a carbon copy of Zelda, God of War and probably others as well.

Impediment
Don't forget Portal.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Smasandian
It was underrated for sure but because it was a carbon copy of Zelda, God of War and probably others as well.

lmao so

Just like saying any 3rd person action adventure is a rip off of god of war...,just a lazy statement.

Estacado
Still it got Best Fantasy game of 2010 from IGN....

http://bestof.ign.com/2010/xbox-360/best-fantasy-game.html

Smasandian
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lmao so

Just like saying any 3rd person action adventure is a rip off of god of war...,just a lazy statement.

I understand.

But, Darksiders pull heartstrings with people because it was a complete knock off of three different games.

It was still well done and had a cool premise but there wasn't anything remotely original with the game.

It was a cool rental basically.

Phanteros
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Estacado
edit.

Stoic
I really like these types of games, but it's the replay value that has me wondering whether I should rent it or spend the 60 plus to buy it. I still have part one, and after finishing it twice, have not picked it up again. To be fair though, I feel the same about Batman Arkham Asylum, and all of the God of War games collecting dust on my DVD shelving unit.

Damn good art in the game though.

jinXed by JaNx
pisses me off when people complain about lack of creativity in video games. ITs a game...,do you have fun with it? There are only so many "original" games that come out. If every game were original, the unoriginal would be original. I guess people dont understand this shit. Darksiders was more than a good rental it was a solid game that offered a compelling story and a grand experience with fluent controls. Anyone who says otherwise is a pretentious c0ck

Stoic
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
pisses me off when people complain about lack of creativity in video games. ITs a game...,do you have fun with it? There are only so many "original" games that come out. If every game were original, the unoriginal would be original. I guess people dont understand this shit. Darksiders was more than a good rental it was a solid game that offered a compelling story and a grand experience with fluent controls. Anyone who says otherwise is a pretentious c0ck


This is true. Outside of playing video games in a vacuum, how much more original can you get? Although certain games may share the same mechanics as another, the story, and art in itself makes it different.

Estacado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q3DZuAe88M&hd=1

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Estacado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q3DZuAe88M&hd=1

Isn't that the trailer for the first game?

Estacado
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Isn't that the trailer for the first game?
My bad....1st I thought it would be the 2nd game's trailer cause it wasjust posted on the official fb site...

Kazenji
I hope the load times at the start of the game is quicker.

Kazenji
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Estacado
Fantasy game of the year.

Kazenji
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Estacado
Preview...gives details on new weapons,magic and many more...

http://www.destructoid.com/preview-darksiders-ii-220236.phtml

Estacado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gokyjbeL80M

Kazenji
The release date is now June.

Estacado
Originally posted by Kazenji
The release date is now June.
Then I hope that Prototype 2 has a long story and a shit load of challanges so that it could last till june..:P

Kazenji
DLC packs with UK-Preorders

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-10831-Darksiders-II-Gets-a-Date-and-UK-Pre-Order-Incentives.html

Estacado
Collectors edition.
http://www.wecollectgames.com/WCG_LIVE/wp-content/gallery/2012/03/darksiders-2-collectors-edition.jpg

Kazenji
Might have to preorder this one next.

Kazenji

Estacado
Its nice to see that they actually care about the fans opinion...unlike fcukin capcom.

Kazenji
Currently this cover is winning for the most votes

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8088/darksiders2cover.jpg

Kazenji
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Demonic Phoenix
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A brief glimpse at some gameplay including the loot system and traversal, and we get a glimpse of Death riding Despair (I prefer Ruin's design), as well as the first dungeon's boss.

Looks solid. First game was good. This one looks like it is going to be awesome.

Estacado
Fantasy game of the year.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Estacado
Fantasy game of the year.

Only if the competition is relatively weak.

Estacado
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Only if the competition is relatively weak.
Nah...
Darksiders 1 is still one of the best fantasy games in years this will be so much better then that...

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Estacado
Nah...
Darksiders 1 is still one of the best fantasy games in years this will be so much better then that...

Not to me. Darksiders was a nice little game, but nothing too memorable.

Smasandian
I thought that as well.

It was fun and I liked how the melded Zelda with God Of War but aside from the sweet premise, nothing stood out for me.

Great rental.

General Kaliero
I do think the sequel is looking better than the original.

The first had a deeper mythology than it let on at first glance, and despite the gameplay borrowing from other, better games, it played solidly enough. I liked the concept and the world, and I suppose the potential of those things is greater than what was actually experienced.

If they can refine the gameplay to be more of its own thing, which it does look like they're doing, I think they could make it work.

Doesn't hurt that as protagonists go, Death looks more interesting than War.

ArtificialGlory
I agree, the sequel is looking better. I also gotta give props to both Darksiders and Darksiders 2 for not forgetting the PC.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by General Kaliero
I do think the sequel is looking better than the original.

The first had a deeper mythology than it let on at first glance, and despite the gameplay borrowing from other, better games, it played solidly enough. I liked the concept and the world, and I suppose the potential of those things is greater than what was actually experienced.

If they can refine the gameplay to be more of its own thing, which it does look like they're doing, I think they could make it work.

Doesn't hurt that as protagonists go, Death looks more interesting than War.

Pretty much.
As far as the mythos goes, Darksiders is rich, even if the first game did not explore a lot of it. They'll be going into greater detail in the second game.

Not to mention, it has a fantastic art-style. They're moving on to more fantasy-based settings now.

Demonic Phoenix
http://www.incgamers.com/News/30842/darksiders-2s-skill-trees-revealed

DS2 Skill Trees

Estacado
Woot!
Looks good!

Kazenji
Take-Two boss: "THQ won't be around in six months"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-05-take-two-boss-thq-wont-be-around-in-six-months

Kazenji
Now the date has shifted to August

http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/18/darksiders-ii-delayed-to-august/

Kazenji
Just noticed Michael Wincott will be doing Death's voice

he was Top Dollar in the Crow movie.

Estacado
Badass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=228kgJJ0Tws

Kazenji
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Kazenji
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7622/56034410150973090825546.jpg

Demonic Phoenix
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Estacado
Lookin good.

BlackZero30x
best buy (by me at least) is still taking pre-orders and with the date slated at august I know Im pretty sure I can come up with the money! I LOVED the first game!

Kazenji
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uncut trailer on its facebook page eek!


"Edit"
well that was a waste of time not a great deal of difference.

Estacado
Yeah the extended trailer is pretty much just more blah blah...
Cant wait to play this.....I've seen a War vs Death gameplay not long ago I'll post it if I find it again.

Kazenji
Joe Madureira and Dark Horse Comics have released a digital comic

https://digital.darkhorse.com/profile/2265.darksiders-ii-deaths-door-1/

Estacado
Boss fight : wailing host
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/yapxlv/darksiders-ii-boss-fight-fridays--wailing-host-walkthrough-part-i

Kazenji
Meh....i'll go look for a youtube link

looks like sorta like cthulhu.

Estacado
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Estacado
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Kazenji
I read that there's going to be a season pass for this game.

Estacado
Looks fcuking amazing!!
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Kazenji
Achievement List

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/darksiders-2/achievements/

is this game going to have co-op??

Estacado
* Diablo 3 Hardcore mode is in . One death in combat = permanent death and total loss of campaign progress.
* MAGs are in. Possessed Weapons must be fed with other random items to enable them to level up and gain more abilities and damage.
* Trading of items between players is in.
* Fast Travel. You can go into your map and instantly teleport to any location that you previously visited.
* New Game+ is in. You keep all your loot, enemies gets tougher and you gain % to find new tier of weapons which can have exclusive NG+ attributes.

* Four big playing areas. Each in new environment, each large as entire DS1.
* 25+ hours for main storyline, with crapton of sidequests and sidejobs.
* Expanded character building options - fully featured skill trees, and fully customizable gear.
* Loot, loot, loot.
* Because of all that loot, all animations are this time rendered in-game. No more crappy compressed FMV's.

Estacado
Originally posted by Kazenji
Achievement List

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/darksiders-2/achievements/

is this game going to have co-op??
I really hope we can max out both Necromancer and Harbringer skills....

Kazenji
Have you seen that Darksiders novel ?

Darksiders: The Abomination Vault
http://www.amazon.com/Darksiders-Abomination-Vault-Ari-Marmell/dp/0345534026

Estacado
Originally posted by Kazenji
Have you seen that Darksiders novel ?

Darksiders: The Abomination Vault
http://www.amazon.com/Darksiders-Abomination-Vault-Ari-Marmell/dp/0345534026
Yeah... I heard it got some good reviews....

Estacado
preview...
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/59945/darksiders-2-hands-on-preview/

BloodRain
How good was the first one? I honestly wanted to get into it, but for some reason couldn't find myself jumping on board.

Estacado
Originally posted by BloodRain
How good was the first one? I honestly wanted to get into it, but for some reason couldn't find myself jumping on board.
A solid 8-8.5/10 with a good story ,nice puzzles and gow/dmc like fighting system...it's compared to zelda cause of the puzzles but since i haven't played any of the zelda games I would compare it to soul reaver 1-2.
It's a decent action adventure game.

Estacado
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Estacado
22 minutes of gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9K_aSV8UpI&feature=player_embedded

Kazenji
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40 or 50 hours long this game...

Estacado
Damn...that's nice.....and don't forget the new game plus...and the special loot available at the 2nd walkthrough..

Kazenji
http://www.darksiders.com/blog-post/unlock-power-war-playing-darksiders

Estacado
First review is in no links cause it's a magazine......


GamePro Germany is the first to hit the shelves scoring Darksiders II at a 93%!

"Darksiders 2 is a nearly perfect videogame" -GamePro

Estacado
Damn there are 27 "legendary weapons" shown on the main site...guess that means a whole lot more in the game....
http://www.darksiders.com/game-info/weapons#mortis-possessed-

Kazenji
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Estacado
Another review is in with the same 93 from the german Consol Plus.

Estacado
Phuck yeaaaah survival/arena mode....
http://www.darksiders.com/blog-post/introducing-darksiders-ii-arena-mode-and-new-game-functionality

Estacado
Last of the trailers.Death's voice is pretty badass also his monologue sounds cool as well.
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Kazenji
A video for those new to Darksiders

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Estacado

Estacado
50 minutes of gameplay....
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Estacado
Game is amazing.... been playing for 15 hours straight... my eyes are melting...:P
I havent even finished the 2nd world though I did complete a few side missions...

Kazenji
What its already out in America?

gotta wait until Thursday.

Estacado
Originally posted by Kazenji
What its already out in America?

gotta wait until Thursday.
Got it early...haermm

Kazenji
You see the thing on Facebook to unlock a free weapon?

Rusanov's Axe.

Estacado
Yup.
Unfortunetly I dont have live.....also for the crucible live is needed as well you unlock it with a redeem code which is on the back of the manual.
Just finished the 1 st playthrough took me 25 hours to beat the game...gonna start over do the sidemissions ,max out Death..anf get some legendary equipment.

ares834
Who is the final boss?

Estacado
Originally posted by ares834
Who is the final boss?
Absalom who is a Nephilim he got infected by Corruption and now he is and Avatar Of Chaos

ares834
Thanks.

What does he look like? Like the Charred Council?

Estacado
Originally posted by ares834
Thanks.

What does he look like? Like the Charred Council?
He looks like an 8ft tall big buff badass demon....

ares834
Alright, sounds bad ass.

Thanks.

Anyway, picking this up after work tonight!

Kazenji
So i've been playing it

i like how it has a recap of what's happen when you've loaded up your save, More games need this

Originally posted by Estacado
Yup.
Unfortunetly I dont have live.....also for the crucible live is needed as well you unlock it with a redeem code which is on the back of the manual.


I'm pretty sure that there's a free account not sure if it will let you do the online codes.

ares834
Originally posted by Kazenji
So i've been playing it

i like how it has a recap of what's happen when you've loaded up your save, More games need this


Yeah, it's quite cool. I also like how the start menu is just your character actually standing in the game world.

My biggest gripe with the game so far is that Z-targeting requires you to hold down the trigger. It makes using the wrath abilities a bit difficult. Otherwise great game so far.

Darth Vicious
After playing Mass Effect recently, one of the best things I love about this game is Fast Travel. Even with the horse is a pain in the @$$ going from place to place(looking at u ME). Fast Travel solved that annoyance quite nicely early on.

Kazenji
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Impediment
After playing for 5 straight hours, I can conclude that the sequel trumps the first game in almost every way possible.

This game.............is so much fun. THIS is what I wanted from the first game. A true RPG experience.

Darksiders was very fun and awesome, but I kinda felt it lacking at too many points.

I can't wait to see how the rest of the game unfolds.

Kazenji
My only complaint with the consoles version is Vigil could've made the graphic's a lil sharper.

Impediment
The graphics seem pretty awesome to me. My PS3's Blu-ray drive and my LED screen bring out the beauty of the game.

ArtificialGlory
The aesthetics are great, but the technical side of it is pretty shite.

Kazenji
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
The aesthetics are great, but the technical side of it is pretty shite.

Both the gameplay & Fighting seem fine for me

Originally posted by Impediment
The graphics seem pretty awesome to me. My PS3's Blu-ray drive and my LED screen bring out the beauty of the game.

They're okay when i'm playing it but just feels like they could've been sharper, Unless Vigil screwed us PAL owners over.

Kazenji
Looks like the first DLC content for this game be out soon.

Phanteros
What's the sales for this so far? I heard it took THQ off of life support.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Phanteros
What's the sales for this so far? I heard it took THQ off of life support.

Not sure

can only find the amount of sales for America.

Kazenji
Vigil loses Joe Madureira




From the first DLC

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/1530/med_ds2-dlc-tease.jpg

Estacado
Wow..that sucks...though I doubt that there will be a sequel which is sad..sad

As for the sales(They haven't even reached a million copies.
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=darksiders+&publisher=1685&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

Kazenji
Originally posted by Estacado
Wow..that sucks...though I doubt that there will be a sequel which is sad..sad


Would like to see another sequel, Continuing on from where the first game ended having all the Horsemen.

Estacado
Originally posted by Kazenji
Would like to see another sequel, Continuing on from where the first game ended having all the Horsemen.
Same here but I don't see that happening seeing how the expected sales(4.000.000) are not likely to be reached.

Kazenji
Abyssal Forge DLC



apparantly its hard

http://www.darksiders.com/blog-post/adventure-abyssal-forge

Kazenji
The Demon Lord Belial DLC

I-Drop
Game was great. Wish it would have sold more. THQ is circling the drain

Kazenji
THQ Files For Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/12/thq-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy/

I-Drop
Yep. I was too lazy to post a link. Thanx.

Anybody know how to get the Death Mask Avatar reward?

Kazenji
The makers of Bayonetta would love to buy this game series, No one else wants to buy it blink

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/01/the-makers-of-bayonetta-would-love-to-buy-the-suddenly-endangered-darksiders-series/

Kazenji
Decided to use my free code for the Argul's tomb DLC, Need to go to the site for it

i go and try it out and i get "This code is invalid or already in use" and it seems i'm not the only one going by whats on those forums.

cdtm
Originally posted by Kazenji
Decided to use my free code for the Argul's tomb DLC, Need to go to the site for it

i go and try it out and i get "This code is invalid or already in use" and it seems i'm not the only one going by whats on those forums.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/988570-/63747143

Kazenji
Yeah it was that O & 0

do a better job of this in the future whoever owns the Darksiders franchise now.

Stoic
Finally got a chance to play this game on my day off. Pretty decent.

Estacado
Originally posted by Stoic
Finally got a chance to play this game on my day off. Pretty decent.
Its a kickass game too bad there is no GOTY version of it.
Really wanted to play the dlc.

Stoic
Originally posted by Estacado
Its a kickass game too bad there is no GOTY version of it.
Really wanted to play the dlc.

Why not just purchase the DLC online? I really like the game so far, and only have a couple of things bad to say about it. It freezes a bit, but not to the point of deal breaker level, and the radar system kind of sucks bunk. What I mean is that it you should be able to see the enemy on your mini map, because the world in certain sections is so large, that you could literally be ambushed from behind, and never expect it. Other than that, it's a real solid title, and I enjoy Madi's art style. He should get together with McFarlane, and come out with an awesome RPG, that places Spawn characters and the Riders in an epic game.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Stoic
Why not just purchase the DLC online?

he hasn't got Xbox Live Gold


as for the DLC from what i've heard is that they're pretty short anyway.

Estacado
It should be accessible through silver but my net connection pretty shitty at home so I would have to take my console to my work place and Im too lazy to transport it....uhuh

Besides I got my profile corrupted and lost like 10 years of saving.So Im not gonna be playing it now I guess.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Estacado

Besides I got my profile corrupted and lost like 10 years of saving.So Im not gonna be playing it now I guess.

I've had that happened with some games. But it ended up being some update that i got from Xbox live that ****ed them up.

Estacado
I got the haxed version of watch dogs and the moron who uploaded it didn't rip it well and it phucked up my profie...ermm

Could have recovered it via live but the last time was online was like 6 years ago....ermm

Smasandian
I feel so sorry for you.....

You don't need Gold to purchase DLC.

Estacado
Originally posted by Estacado
It should be accessible through silver
I put like 40 hours into Ds 2 after losing the save not feel like playing it.

Stoic
Originally posted by Estacado
It should be accessible through silver but my net connection pretty shitty at home so I would have to take my console to my work place and Im too lazy to transport it....uhuh

Besides I got my profile corrupted and lost like 10 years of saving.So Im not gonna be playing it now I guess.

I got Death as OP as hell in my game. Aside from his crazy powers, every time I hit an enemy, it heals me, brings my wrath power back up, and replenishes my MP. I'm practically immortal.

Estacado
Yeah the health and wrath steal weapon build can be op.
Which build.you chose warrior or necromaner?
Max out teleport it's one of the best skills it does really good damage replenishes health and boost wrath regen.
The ghouls and crows combined can be pretty op as well.

The last necromaner ability is pretty shitty so.choose the warrior one isntead.
Harvester ,necroshield and strenght boost are all very useful skills.

Estacado
Spoilers from 9:00
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Stoic
Originally posted by Estacado
Yeah the health and wrath steal weapon build can be op.
Which build.you chose warrior or necromaner?
Max out teleport it's one of the best skills it does really good damage replenishes health and boost wrath regen.
The ghouls and crows combined can be pretty op as well.

The last necromaner ability is pretty shitty so.choose the warrior one isntead.
Harvester ,necroshield and strenght boost are all very useful skills.

Warrior. I like to crush my foes LOL. I have a neck piece that gives me wrath energy every time I hit an enemy, a possessed scythe weapon that gives me mana or whatever every time I hit, and the spider creatures brawling fists that heal me every time I hit. It's ridiculous how hard my guy is to kill.

I didn't take any of the Necromancer powers. Didn't like them.

Estacado
Necro skills are only good for distraction on lower levels but around 25 you can phuck up almost any enemy.

You can also get extra skill points for completing side missions I think there are like 7 or something extra ones.

How far did you get in the game?

Estacado
This I will buy fo so!uhuh
http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/6/9460755/darksiders-2-deathinitive-edition-ps4-xbox-one-release-date

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