Nightwing, Arsenal n Red Hood vs Punisher, Winter Solider, and Daredevil

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Supermutant
1. Standard gear
2. H2H no weapons

Silent Guardian
Team 1. Dare Devil is probably the best fighter here, but his other two team mates are worse than anyone on team 1

JakeTheBank
1. Probably a split.
2. Team 2.

Prep-Man
Red Hood will probably be more skilled than anyone on any team here. The All Caste is pretty damn uber organization of super assassins that taught Jason.

Silent Guardian
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Red Hood will probably be more skilled than anyone on any team here. The All Caste is pretty damn uber organization of super assassins that taught Jason.

LMAO!!!!!!!


He will always be behind Dare Devil and Nightwing in skill nothing has changed in that regard

Prep-Man
Not DCnU Red Hood. unless Nighty can fight while unconscious. He has yet to even unleash these skills yet.

Robin Dc
Originally posted by Silent Guardian
LMAO!!!!!!!


He will always be behind Dare Devil and Nightwing in skill nothing has changed in that regard thumb up

Prep-Man
So, when has Dick fought unconscious? Or had teachers that were on the same level as the All Caste?

Silent Guardian
Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, when has Dick fought unconscious? Or had teachers that were on the same level as the All Caste?

his feats speak for themselves. He's embarrassed Jason one on one on two occasions.

He's held his own against Deathstroke by himself on more than one occasion.

Dick's ben trained by Batman and had his own world travel where he has learned from a few masters.


And more importantly just because you've had arguably better training than someone doesn't necessarily make you better. As far as combat goes Dick has always proven to be above Jason. Which you could argue is why Jason feels the need to use fire arms, and lethal weapons to make up for his inadequacies.

Prep-Man
I'm talking about DCnU Jason. The two haven't met in the new universe. And Jason is vastly more skilled than Nightwing. Jason will be facing off against the Untitled and Essence, while Dick will be facing off against a generic assassin. Saiko.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Prep-Man
And Jason is vastly more skilled than Nightwing.

No.

Silent Guardian
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I'm talking about DCnU Jason. The two haven't met in the new universe. And Jason is vastly more skilled than Nightwing. Jason will be facing off against the Untitled and Essence, while Dick will be facing off against a generic assassin. Saiko.


false they've met. The bat history is relatively the same aside from some minor stuff here and there. There is absolutely no argument for Jason being better than Dick at anything

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Silent Guardian false they've met. The bat history is relatively the same aside from some minor stuff here and there. There is absolutely no argument for Jason being better than Dick at anything

the writer of nw stated not everything is in continuity. same for deathstroke.

Silent Guardian
he's also stated a good portion is, just condensed. Kyle Higgins was really reffering to Titans stuff not bat book stuff.


Dick was still Nightwing and the last two years of Bat comics still happened. There is no supportable argument for Jason being superior to Dick in anything

srankmissingnin
Winter Soldier > Red Hood
DD > Nightwing
Punisher > Arsenal

Martian_mind
Red Hood> Winter Soldier
Nightwing>Punisher
Daredevil>Arsenal

I'm going team 1.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Silent Guardian he's also stated a good portion is, just condensed. Kyle Higgins was really reffering to Titans stuff not bat book stuff. Dick was still Nightwing and the last two years of Bat comics still happened. There is no supportable argument for Jason being superior to Dick in anything

as srank said in another thread, we dont know whats in continuity. jasons origin is already different pre flashpoint. training with all caste who are unequaled by any other street in the dcu.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Red Hood> Winter Soldier
Nightwing>Punisher


dur

Winter Soldiers held his own multiple times against Wolverine, and Cap. He's beaten Cross Bones and Batroc. He almost beat Crossbones, Sin and Red skull at the same time. He beat Major Ursa in h2h. What on EARTH makes you think for a second that Red Hood would stand a chance against Winter Soldier? Getting beat up by Nightwing constantly since his revival?

Punisher has gone the distance with Daredevil a dozen times. He would chew up and spit out Nightwing (aka diet Daredevil) in a heart beat.

Any fight combination of these six guys ends in a 3 / 0 decision for team Marvel.

Prep-Man
im betting jason will be one of the most improved/impressive streets after red hood is done. cant wait to see how well he does against untitled and essence. if he does so alone, which he may not, but lobdell said he hasnt even used the skills the all caste have taught him. interested to see what he can do.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Prep-Man
im betting jason will be one of the most improved/impressive streets after red hood is done. cant wait to see how well he does against untitled and essence. if he does so alone, which he may not, but lobdell said he hasnt even used the skills the all caste have taught him. interested to see what he can do.

So far that certainly seems to be the case.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Getting beat up by Nightwing constantly since his revival?

.


I really don't know how you could have read the actual fights and reached this conclusion.

I know you haven't, but still, you could be less.....obvious about it.

riggomortis
punisher is the weak link but daredevil and winter soldier should take the majority for there team

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