End of Japanese Whaling?

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Darth Truculent
The Sea Shepherds under Capt. Paul Watson this year seemed to have made a serious dent in the Japanese whaling industry this year. Is this the year that it finally ends?

Robtard
No.

Just just drop more bombs on Japan until they stop whaling.

inimalist
now they only kill cow and chicken like us

Robtard
Originally posted by inimalist
now they only kill cow and chicken like us

That's not a fair comparison.

-Cows and chickens are stupid

-Cows and chickens aren't endangered

-Cows and chickens won't save the planet in 2286

inimalist
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not a fair comparison.

-Cows and chickens are stupid

-Cows and chickens aren't endangered

-Cows and chickens won't save the planet in 2286

they aren't as cute as seals either

Robtard
Originally posted by inimalist
they aren't as cute as seals either

Yet another good reason. Bravo.

Mindship
Originally posted by Robtard
Just just drop more bombs on Japan until they stop whaling. But then they'll start wailing.

inimalist
nuke the whales

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by inimalist
nuke the whales

No! You'll only make them angry.

The Dark Cloud
Sadly no, it won't stop (nor will the overdepletion of the oceans in general). I highly commend the crew of the Sea Sheperd for what they are doing but the Japanese whaling fleet has far more resources and as long as it remains profitable for them to continue they will.

Robtard
Japan still whales mostly out of cultural pride and cultural longevity. Basically "well, we've been eating whales for thousands of years; we're not stopping now."

This is why they should be bombed. That and for killing other endangered animals in the hopes that eating their penises and other parts will make their dicks work better.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
The Sea Shepherds under Capt. Paul Watson this year seemed to have made a serious dent in the Japanese whaling industry this year. Is this the year that it finally ends?
You could firebomb every whaling ship in the fleet and sink them all...they'd just build more boats.

The only way you could really curb (not halt completely) Japanese whaling would be if you gave the whales actual military protection, which of course will probably never happen.

If Japan stops whaling it's gonna have to be the Japanese government/people who make the decision.

Bicnarok

Lord Lucien
I learned about Paul Watson from Bullshit and that one South Park episode. I'll never be able to like that man now.

Omega Vision
Well poisoned.

Grate the Vraya
Teach the whales to use torpedoes. Problem solved...

Bardock42
Whaling just doesn't seem like that big of an issue. I understand whales are cute so that probably helps.

Over fishing in general is a big problem and one often made worse by ill informed government intervention.

Generally I don't see a problem with hunting and eating whales if it within limits and of a healthy not close to extinct species. Though I don't know if we are really losing if there's five whales opposed to zero.

Grate the Vraya
I have...never eaten whale. Huh...

Bardock42
I have

Grate the Vraya
Is it good? Does it just taste like fish?

Bardock42
It was good. No, it did not taste like fish. More like beef. I only had it once and it was prepared like a steak, so I wouldn't say I am a specialist on the culinary properties of the meat.

Grate the Vraya
Originally posted by Bardock42
It was good. No, it did not taste like fish. More like beef. I only had it once and it was prepared like a steak, so I wouldn't say I am a specialist on the culinary properties of the meat. hm, I'll have to try it sometime. Hopefully before it's made illegal or whatever.

753
Originally posted by Bardock42
Whaling just doesn't seem like that big of an issue. I understand whales are cute so that probably helps.

Over fishing in general is a big problem and one often made worse by ill informed government intervention.

Generally I don't see a problem with hunting and eating whales if it within limits and of a healthy not close to extinct species. Though I don't know if we are really losing if there's five whales opposed to zero. almost all the species are endangered, several have been extinguished by the practice and industrial whaling is just inherently unsustainable because of the scale.

also, hoooray sea shepperds!

this wont stop japanese whaling as it is too ingrained in their culture, but all efforts are valid

The Dark Cloud
Originally posted by Grate the Vraya
hm, I'll have to try it sometime. Hopefully before it's made illegal or whatever.

It IS illegal in the US and has been for decades

Bardock42
Originally posted by 753
almost all the species are endangered, several have been extinguished by the practice and industrial whaling is just inherently unsustainable because of the scale.

also, hoooray sea shepperds!

this wont stop japanese whaling as it is too ingrained in their culture, but all efforts are valid

That's incorrect. There are several species which are not endangered at all at the moment. And it is sustainable at certain rates (as shown in Scandinavian Countries and parts of Alaska). Obviously anything is unsustainable when the scale is too high.

753
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's incorrect. There are several species which are not endangered at all at the moment. And it is sustainable at certain rates (as shown in Scandinavian Countries and parts of Alaska). Obviously anything is unsustainable when the scale is too high. most are endangered- and got that way because of whaling - I was refering to big cetaceans btw, the ones commonly associated with the term 'whales'

industrial whaling is not sustainable and if it goes on at the current rates, the species that arent endangered today will probably become so in the future, not that the japanese spare the threatened whales, they dress t up as scientific hunting and sell the meat just the same

Bardock42
Like I said, I do think restrictions should be applied to hunting, but it can be sustainable within reasonable limits, what you call industrial whaling is open to interpretation I suppose, but something that I think would classify as industrial could surely be sustainable.

The real problem for whales isn't their hunting anyways, it is large scale net fishing, which kills the majority of whales without any use as they are just discarded.

Grate the Vraya
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
It IS illegal in the US and has been for decades Well, that explains why I've never eaten it! It looks like I'll have to make a trip then.

rotiart
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346

commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...

japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...

while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.

even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions.

753
Originally posted by rotiart
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346

commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...

japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...

while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.

even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions. problem is those regulations dont have the same strengh as international law

Grate the Vraya
Originally posted by rotiart
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346

commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...

japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...

while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.

even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions. novelty fishing?

Bicnarok
It was reported earlier on the news that the Japanese want to continue whaling. Looks like Paul Watson has more work to do.

Grate the Vraya
As long as the whaling is regulated, and the Japanese whalers don't cause any extinctions nor dramatic endangerments of any species, I approve of it. Most of the resources that whales provide can be produced synthetically. However, I understand that it's much easier to get those resources by just going out and killing a whale, rather than spending thousands of dollars producing them in a lab.

King Kandy
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
It IS illegal in the US and has been for decades
It is legal for some Alaskan natives, I believe.

I've never eaten it, but i'd like to some time.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Bardock42
It was good. No, it did not taste like fish. More like beef. I only had it once and it was prepared like a steak, so I wouldn't say I am a specialist on the culinary properties of the meat.
If any mammal tasted like fish I'd be suspicious.

Thoren
I ate shark fin soup once.

King Kandy
Another thing i'd like to try some time...

Grate the Vraya
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If any mammal tasted like fish I'd be suspicious. Oh yeah, duh. That was a dumb question embarrasment

chomperx9
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not a fair comparison.

-Cows and chickens are stupid

-Cows and chickens aren't endangered

-Cows and chickens won't save the planet in 2286 what makes one life more important than another because of intelligence ?

or if they are endangered or not ? I guess people should face bigger consequences for shooting at a bald eagle than a person.

Quark_666
Originally posted by Bardock42
Like I said, I do think restrictions should be applied to hunting, but it can be sustainable within reasonable limits, what you call industrial whaling is open to interpretation I suppose, but something that I think would classify as industrial could surely be sustainable.

The real problem for whales isn't their hunting anyways, it is large scale net fishing, which kills the majority of whales without any use as they are just discarded. This makes more sense than the aggregate sum of everything else on this thread.

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