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Both characters are drawing on their unstoppable powers of PIS (so PIS is in full effect in this fight) in an attempt to utterly annihilate the other; CIS is completely off...

Who wins?

Even if Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet and a cosmic cube, Batman will find a way.

Originally posted by Simbon
Even if Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet and a cosmic cube, Batman will find a way.

Originally posted by Simbon
Even if Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet and a cosmic cube, Batman will find a way.

What? Doom ordinarily with prep>>>>>>>>>>>batman on his best day with prep. David Cain was able to fool Batman. Doom would have him vaporized. And that's without any amps

Originally posted by Lestov16
What? Doom ordinarily with prep>>>>>>>>>>>batman on his best day with prep. David Cain was able to fool Batman. Doom would have him vaporized. And that's without any amps
Baseless opinin... lowballing... ignoring the thread stips and the thread titel... baseless opinion... foolisch ssumption...

Way to go ^^

Doom PISes all over Bruce's face.

PIS tends to favor the hero. Batman wins.

Batman with out prep kicked the Spectre.

God i hate Batman, and anyone normal heroes that does shits there not suppose too.

Originally posted by SquallX
Batman with out prep kicked the Spectre.

God i hate Batman, and anyone normal heroes that does shits there not suppose too.

Do you know the context behind that scene?

Doom >>>> PIS >>> Batman

natural order of things.

If PIS is in full effect, the Bats will "find a way to win."

Originally posted by Simbon
Even if Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet and a cosmic cube, Batman will find a way. bane didn't need any of those things

doom wins. they are very close to the same level as a stratagist. Batman has better tech, but doom is just on another level, physically and is more powerful as a being. batman relies to much on tech. Will get him killed here.

^
Actually Doom at his best is probably Marquis of Death where he turns out to be a good guy... Doom.

Originally posted by zeel
doom wins. they are very close to the same level as a stratagist. Batman has better tech, but doom is just on another level, physically and is more powerful as a being. batman relies to much on tech. Will get him killed here. Batman has better tech, are you high?

Originally posted by Simbon
Even if Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet and a cosmic cube, Batman will find a way. Originally posted by Mindset
Batman has better tech, are you high? He's high on truth! sneer

Doom easy

Originally posted by volvarine
doom got knocked down by dr voodoo with a single punch and ran away And? the op cleary says "at their best" not use a ver low showing.

Batman at his very best>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Doom at his or anyone else's very best

In all seriousness, what is Batman's single greatest feat?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In all seriousness, what is Batman's single greatest feat?

Seriously? Being the coolest Superhero ever created, EVER!

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Seriously? Being the coolest Superhero ever created, EVER! That's Spiderman.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Seriously? Being the coolest Superhero ever created, EVER!

http://thepqnation.com/livingwicked/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/810928-lmao_super.jpg

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batman at his very best>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Doom at his or anyone else's very best lulz
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Seriously? Being the coolest Superhero ever created, EVER! So no actual real feat then.

With PIS on, Batman can just grimace threateningly and Doom will break out in a sweat, trembling like a frightened dog as he spills his guts out about all the prep he had ready to beat Batman, but is now too afraid to use.

Originally posted by Simbon
With PIS on, Batman can just grimace threateningly and Doom will break out in a sweat, trembling like a frightened dog as he spills his guts out about all the prep he had ready to beat Batman, but is now too afraid to use. Then he snaps Robin's neck and oneshots Bruce.

Originally posted by Nihilist
lulz
So no actual real feat then.

He has a lot of feats, I'm sure you don't know them, you are too busy sucking Thanos balls sneer

But seriously. Creating Brother Eye for one. Being instrumental in the death of Darkseid (FC). Taking on the JLA or Superman.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He has a lot of feats, I'm sure you don't know them, you are too busy sucking Thanos balls sneer

But seriously. Creating Brother Eye for one. Being instrumental in the death of Darkseid (FC). Taking on the JLA or Superman.

Good feats, but do you really think they are as good or superior to what Doom has done in comics?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Good feats, but do you really think they are as good or superior to what Doom has done in comics?

Sure he is the good guy after all. Why should he do more, there is no need. His feats are always > the feats of his enemies. It doesn't matter what Doom pulls out of his ass, Batman is the hero and will stop him, with something more clever. That's how it works in comics, don't blame me ^^.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Sure he is the good guy after all. Why should he do more, there is no need. His feats are always > the feats of his enemies. It doesn't matter what Doom pulls out of his ass, Batman is the hero and will stop him, with something more clever. That's how it works in comics, don't blame me ^^. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Bane_breaks_Batman.png

Originally posted by Mindset
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Bane_breaks_Batman.png

You know why Batman allowed this to happen? So that Azrael could shine a little bit and because he needed a !"break"!, a holiday. He came back later, with his back being ok. So... !

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He has a lot of feats, I'm sure you don't know them, you are too busy sucking Thanos balls sneerStop trying to be funny retard, it doesnt work for you.

Good feats, but piss poor when comparing it to Dooms.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/2712315398_dcfbc1d595.jpg

Originally posted by Nihilist
Stop trying to be funny retard, it doesnt work for you.

Good feats, but piss poor when comparing it to Dooms.

Hit a nerve didn't I. Truth hurts, nevermind .

Oh yeah, that's why Doom still rules the Marvelverse, oh wait, he failed with everything he tried, he was always defeated, wasn't he?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Oh yeah, that's why Doom still rules the Marvelverse, oh wait, he failed with everything he tried, he was always defeated, wasn't he?

Which is why Batman eradicated all crime in Gotham and-

Oh, wait.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which is why Batman eradicated all crime in Gotham and-

Oh, wait.

Well he stopped every Villain till now, even the embodiment of Evil. So yes and yes.

The difference is.

You try to annhillate everything or take over the world and fail, again and again. You are wasting your time 'cause you are born to fail.

You fight ciminals and villains, they go to jail, new criminals appear or the old ones escape. You succeed and succeed. It's a neverending battle. You are a born winner.

Let me put it simple for ya, Doom tries and never reaches his goal while Batman succeeds alsmost everytime, gets what he wants and waits till he is needed again.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hit a nerve didn't I. Truth hurts, nevermind .Nah you didnt hit a nerve, i just find it laUghable and pathetic you call someone a ball licker in this thread about Batman...BATMAN PRIME.

wrong again, try reading something with Doom in. Doom has stolen power fron the Beyonder,Galactus and created a heaven breacher that allowed him to kidnap Stann Lee who at the time was editor/TOAA.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Well he stopped every Villain till now, even the embodiment of Evil. So yes and yes.

The difference is.

You try to annhillate everything or take over the world and fail, again and again. You are wasting your time 'cause you are born to fail.

You fight ciminals and villains, they go to jail, new criminals appear or the old ones escape. You succeed and succeed. It's a neverending battle. You are born winner.

It's exactly the same as Doom ruling the world (which he has done) or gaining omnipotence or near omnipotence (which he has done) or freeing his mother's soul (which he's done) or proving his superiority over that blasted Richards (which he's done).

Dr. Doom has succeeded just as much as Batman has and on larger scale. Doom invented winning.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Nah you didnt hit a nerve, i just find it laUghable and pathetic you call someone a ball licker in this thread about Batman...BATMAN PRIME.

wrong again, try reading something with Doom in. Doom has stolen power fron the Beyonder,Galactus and created a heaven breacher that allowed him to kidnap Stann Lee who at the time was editor/TOAA.

Ok, hit a nerve.

And that's why he is the supreme being of Marvel? Right? He didn't fail in the end? Right?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Ok, hit a nerve.

And that's why he is the supreme being of Marvel? Right? He didn't fail in the end? Right?

Just like Batman rehabilitated Arkham's inmates and cleaned up Gotham and the world of crime like he swore he did? Right?

How you don't see that it's exactly the same thing is beyond me. You will never see Batman completely accomplish his mission just like you'll never see Dr. Doom utterly achieve ultimate victory permanently for the same reason.

There would be no point in making stories about them.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's exactly the same as Doom ruling the world (which he has done) or gaining omnipotence or near omnipotence (which he has done) or freeing his mother's soul (which he's done) or proving his superiority over that blasted Richards (which he's done).

Dr. Doom has succeeded just as much as Batman has and on larger scale. Doom invented winning.

Thats bull and you know it. He didn't suceed, because success would mean he gets what he wants, and this would be a permanent ominpotence. You know, forever and ever.

Batmans goal is to defeat the enemy, which he does, constantly and almost flawelessly.

Big, no huge difference.

Putting Doom against Batman is like pitting a red panda against a terror bird

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w3qD4DYATaA/TdAf1kLL38I/AAAAAAAAAJE/mnKrONqgxzo/s1600/red%252Bpanda.jpg
vs
http://m1.ikiwq.com/img/xl/khGHuzx7dIsI2pkf0s0Zqd.jpg

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Ok, hit a nerve. If any one hit a nerve its me, thats why you brought Thanos a character not in this thread, i guess youre to stupid to even notice that.

so failing against TOAA is bad now? ffs are you just desperate.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Thats bull and you know it. He didn't suceed, because success would mean he gets what he wants, and this would be a permanent ominpotence. You know, forever and ever.

Batmans goal is to defeat the enemy, which he does, constantly and almost flawelessly.

Big, no huge difference.

Batman's goal is to stop crime completely and utterly to the point where there doesn't need to be a Batman anymore. Which he's never done, obviously.

It's the same damn thing.

And Dr. Doom's chief goals:

1. World domination/ultimate power
2. The freedom of his mother's soul from Hell
3. The abject and complete humiliation of Reed Richards

He's succeeded in all of them, and for 1 and 3 more than once. All of which are much harder to accomplish than to keep Gotham clean from crime.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Seriously? Being the coolest Superhero ever created, EVER!

That he is!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Just like Batman rehabilitated Arkham's inmates and cleaned up Gotham and the world of crime like he swore he did? Right?

How you don't see that it's exactly the same thing is beyond me. You will never see Batman completely accomplish his mission just like you'll never see Dr. Doom utterly achieve ultimate victory permanently for the same reason.

There would be no point in making stories about them.

The difference, once again is quite visible, just open your eyes. You want to rule the world for ever, you lose it, you fail, you don't get what you want. It would be like, Batman fighting the Joker, defeating him for a split second and then being defeated in the process, with the Joker escaping. He almost won but failed in the end, That's what Doom is made of, Fail.

You want to stop criminals, you do so but more come and more a born, every day, so that's why it's an never ending battle. You succeed and you do so till the end of time. Even if he would do a punisher stunt and kill every criminal on earth, there would come new ones, right? But he suceedes and that's what it's all about success. Like he helped to defeat Darkseid, success.

In a comic fight. Doom would pull a stund boast about it and then get his ass handed to him by Batman, you know it, deep in your heart you know that this is the only way a comic fight with those two will be written.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The difference, once again is quite visible, just open your eyes. You want to rule the world for ever, you lose it, you fail, you don't get what you want. It would be like, Batman fighting the Joker, defeating him for a split second and then being defeated in the process, with the Joker escaping. He almost won but failed in the end, That's what Doom is made of, Fail.

You want to stop criminals, you do so but more come and more a born, every day, so that's why it's an never ending battle. You succeed and you do so till the end of time. Even if he would do a punisher stunt and kill every criminal on earth, there would come new ones, right? But he suceedes and that's what it's all about success. Like he helped to defeat Darkseid, success.

In a comic fight. Doom would pull a stund boast about it and then get his ass handed to him by Batman, you know it, deep in your heart you know that this is the only way a comic fight with those two will be written.

I'm opening my eyes and I can't believe this is even being discussed.

Batman wants to:

-Keep Gotham City safe from crime to a point where no one will ever have to suffer from crime like he did.

-Make the world a better place so there's no need for Batman.

-Rehabilitate the mentally ill inmates of Arkham, Joker included.

To date, he hasn't done any of that. He's succeeded a lot, but in terms of his long term goals, he's never completely achieved any of that. Simplifying Batman's goals to "just wanting to beat the bad guys" doesn't change that Batman will never accomplish his ultimate mission because if he does....

There's no more Batman.

And Batman has never failed? Really? I refer to you to Exhibit A, Jason Todd.

Too bad this isn't a comic fight and CIS is completely off. Dr. Doom annihilates Batman. Doom isn't that bustah Lex Luthor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's succeeded a lot, but in terms of his long term goals, he's never completely achieved any of that. Simplyfying Batman's goals to "just wanting to beat the bad guys" doesn't change that Batman will never accomplish his ultimate mission because if he does....

There's no more Batman.

And Batman has never failed? Really? I refer to you to Exhibit A, Jason Todd.

Too bad this isn't a comic fight and CIS is completely off. Dr. Doom annihilates Batman. Doom isn't that bustah Lex Luthor.

He succeeded a lot, you know why they call it the never ending Battle?
He makes the world a better place, yep, damn right.

Never said that he never failed, but doom always fails, he never achieves anything, he fails in the end. You know Bats has a greater goal and his way is made of success, he can't defeat the ultimate evil (though he already did once) foever but he wins almost every fight in this war. Doom on the other hand loses every fight in a war he can't win. You know if he would at least control earth for the next 10 real life years, I would say, ok he doesnt fail everytime, not the universe, no omnipotence but hey, it's Doom Comics now, not Marvel Comics but soooo.

Your opinion .

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He succeeded a lot, you know why they call it the never ending Battle?
He makes the world a better place, yep, damn right.

Never said that he never failed, but doom always fails, he never achieves anything, he fails in the end. You know Bats has a greater goal and his way is made of success, he can't defeat the ultimate evil (though he already did once) foever but he wins almost every fight ins this war. Doom on the other hand loses every fight in a war he can't win. You know if he wuld at least control earth for the next 10 real life years, I would say, ok he doesnt fail everytime, not the universe, no omnipotence but hey, it's Doom Comics now, not Marvel Comics but soooo.

Your opinion .

He succeeds a lot, sure, but he's never going to "win". That's just the nature of heroes and villains in comics, a medium which spans decades and decades. There'd be no point on continuing stories, so outside of a What-If/Elseworld/Alternate Timeline/Parallel Reality, its not going to happen for either Doom or Batman and stay that way.

Doom doesn't always fail. He actually permanently succeeded in one of his three major goals: freeing his mother's soul. He's proven to do things Reed can't do, which is an accomplishment in of itself. He's kicked the asses of almost every major hero in the Marvel Universe. He rules his own country which he's single handedly developed into a super power the likes of which no country wants open war with in fear of Doom obliterating them. Dr. Doom is probably the most successful villain in Marvel and arguably one of the most successful in comics.

The argument for Batman applies to Doom here as well.

In conclusion, Batman will never rid Gotham, much less the world, of crime completely, which is stated and shown through out his entire history of comics to be his ultimate goal. Dr. Doom will never completely and permanently subjugate the world under his iron fist. And it's for the same reason.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He succeeds a lot, sure, but he's never going to "win". That's just the nature of heroes and villains in comics, a medium which spans decades and decades. There'd be no point on continuing stories, so outside of a What-If/Elseworld/Alternate Timeline/Parallel Reality, its not going to happen for either Doom or Batman and stay that way.

Doom doesn't always fail. He actually permanently succeeded in one of his three major goals: freeing his mother's soul. He's proven to do things Reed can't do, which is an accomplishment in of itself. He's kicked the asses of almost every major hero in the Marvel Universe. He rules his own country which he's single handedly developed into a super power the likes of which no country wants open war with in fear of Doom obliterating them. Dr. Doom is probably the most successful villain in Marvel and arguably one of the most successful in comics.

The argument for Batman applies to Doom here as well.

In conclusion, Batman will never rid Gotham, much less the world, of crime completely, which is stated and shown through out his entire history of comics to be his ultimate goal. Dr. Doom will never completely and permanently subjugate the world under his iron fist. And it's for the same reason.

Ok, a last try. I can't put it simpler then this.

Batman = ultimate goal, defeat all crime = impossible.

Almost every step on the way to this goal = win (defeating enemies etc.).

Doom = ultimate goal, become the supreme being forever = Impossible.

Almost every step on the way to this goal = defeat or fail (losing to heroes)

Which means.

Batman = win.

Doom = fail.

Or

Doom + win = Batman + Fail /-fail
= Batman = win

Doom + win = Batman + Fail /-win
= Doom = fail

So, you're saying that Doom >> Batman?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime


Or

Doom + win = Batman + Fail /-fail
= Batman = win

Doom + win = Batman + Fail /-win
= Doom = fail I don't think those equations are mathematically sound

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you're saying that Doom >> Batman? Yes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you're saying that Doom >> Batman?

die

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
die

Doom would stab Batman?

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.

What's Batman's biggest feat which uses blatant PIS in his favor?

Not being beaten to death by Bane, only near it.

Doom controls a country while Batman cant even control a city

Originally posted by tkitna
Doom controls a country while Batman cant even control a city Idk what that has to do with combat.

Originally posted by Mindset
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Bane_breaks_Batman.png Were talking about Batman at his best here,thats one of his worst.

Doom wins this......Doom's tech >>>>> batman. Doom's skill at everything is greater.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Doom wins this......Doom's tech >>>>> batman. Doom's skill at everything is greater.

Everything, huh?
Like H2H combat? Or detective skills? Allright, bro, way to go .

Tech, yeah yeah...

I don't think you want to get into a argument comparing the aspects Batman is superior in versus the aspects Doom is superior in...

H2H and detective skills are about the only things Batman has the edge in.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Were talking about Batman at his best here,thats one of his worst. Try reading the post I was replying to, that seems to be useful.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't think you want to get into a argument comparing the aspects Batman is superior in versus the aspects Doom is superior in...

H2H and detective skills are about the only things Batman has the edge in. Batman is a better pedophile.

Originally posted by Mindset
Batman is a better pedophile.

This is true. Kristoff didn't have to worry about Doom making any untoward advances toward him.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Everything, huh?
Like H2H combat? Or detective skills? Allright, bro, way to go .

Tech, yeah yeah...

He is better than Doom at being a Homo
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/rave74/4162010103909AM_633611378996077203-batmanisgay.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/rave74/6558.jpg

Batkick>>>>>Doom

Whereas Robin is checking out Wonder Woman's ass, so definitely not gay

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Whereas Robin is checking out Wonder Woman's ass, so definitely not gay

Depends on the Robin. Why do you think batman has moved on to another target.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Depends on the Robin. Why do you think batman has moved on to another target. he's a detective

He can find little boy's bums wherever they may try to hide.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Idk what that has to do with combat.

Just showing the larger scale that Doom operates on. Regadless of the examples, Batman cant win in this thread.

Originally posted by tkitna
Just showing the larger scale that Doom operates on. Regadless of the examples, Batman cant win in this thread. Gotham City is worse than Doom's country

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Gotham City is worse than Doom's country

Thanks to Doom.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Gotham City is worse than Doom's country Glad you agree that Batman sucks at his job.

If Batman isnt at gotham the gov would probably nuke the city due to it's criminal activity. I think Bruce has the capabilities to control Doom's country while Doom isn't capable of controlling Batman's city.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
PIS tends to favor the hero. Batman wins.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
If Batman isnt at gotham the gov would probably nuke the city due to it's criminal activity. I think Bruce has the capabilities to control Doom's country while Doom isn't capable of controlling Batman's city. Batman lets criminals live which is why they are able to return time and time again.

Doom will not let criminals live to bother him again.

Originally posted by godking
Batman lets criminals live which is why they are able to return time and time again.

Doom will not let criminals live to bother him again. If he kills all the criminals then Gotham would be basically empty.

Originally posted by godking
Batman lets criminals live which is why they are able to return time and time again.

Doom will not let criminals live to bother him again. Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I lost respect for Doom when Diablo did this and Doom didn't kill him on the spot so batman wins.

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/7444671_ff-14.jpg

Originally posted by Robin Dc
If he kills all the criminals then Gotham would be basically empty. Who is he protecting from the criminals then?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Who is he protecting from the criminals then? Himself.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Himself. Then it's a wise idea to go out on the streets and search for these people.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Then it's a wise idea to go out on the streets and search for these people. Yes it would.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
If Batman isnt at gotham the gov would probably nuke the city due to it's criminal activity. I think Bruce has the capabilities to control Doom's country while Doom isn't capable of controlling Batman's city.


Doom would easily control Gotham. he would kill anyone who was a criminal. You don't see any crimminals running around in Latveria do you? Once Doom's form appeared in the night sky telling everyone what would happen to crimminals if they disobey......the next day the welfare office would have the Joker standing in line.

Doom believes in Concentration camps for execution only.....there will be no staying there....just dieing.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Doom would easily control Gotham. he would kill anyone who was a criminal. You don't see any crimminals running around in Latveria do you? Once Doom's form appeared in the night sky telling everyone what would happen to crimminals if they disobey......the next day the welfare office would have the Joker standing in line. Gotham is in the US the government wouldn't allow killing every criminal instead of putting them in jail.

"I only took from them one freedom, the freedom to commit evil" Dr. Doom

Originally posted by Robin Dc
Gotham is in the US the government wouldn't allow killing every criminal instead of putting them in jail.


Lol just face facts.....batman is to busy looking for his next Robin, instead of defeating crime. You think anyone would be able to prosecute Batman if he killed the Joker? The citizens wouldn't stand for it.

I am honestly in shock that this is being debated

People are actually trying to argue that Batman can take on DOOM? I doubt Batman would be able to successfully infiltrate Latveria without Doom finding out

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Lol just face facts.....batman is to busy looking for his next Robin, instead of defeating crime. You think anyone would be able to prosecute Batman if he killed the Joker? The citizens wouldn't stand for it. All Batman does is defeat crime he barely even sleeps. Joker has killed many people, if he wasn't classified as "insane" it would be legal to kill him by government means.






Originally posted by Lestov16
I am honestly in shock that this is being debated

People are actually trying to argue that Batman can take on DOOM? I doubt Batman would be able to successfully infiltrate Latveria without Doom finding out I doubt doom could successfully infiltrate Gotham without Batman finding out.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
I doubt doom could successfully infiltrate Gotham without Batman finding out.

Batman would find out Dr. Doom is in Gotham when Doom annexes Gotham City to be a part of Latveria.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I am honestly in shock that this is being debated

People are actually trying to argue that Batman can take on DOOM? I doubt Batman would be able to successfully infiltrate Latveria without Doom finding out If he can infiltrate Spectre's temple without anyone finding out, then he can do the same to Doom's castle.

And I just died a little inside.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman would find out Dr. Doom is in Gotham when Doom annexes Gotham City to be a part of Latveria.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
All Batman does is defeat crime he barely even sleeps. Joker has killed many people, if he wasn't classified as "insane" it would be legal to kill him by government means.








And this is why DC sucks

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
And this is why DC sucks Pretty much the same goes for Marvel the only villains that get killed are no names or the big names return after a while.

Originally posted by Harbinger
If he can infiltrate Spectre's temple without anyone finding out, then he can do the same to Doom's castle.

And I just died a little inside.

The way DC treats Spectre on the whole, Dr. Doom would steal his powers.

Originally posted by Robin Dc
All Batman does is defeat crime he barely even sleeps. Joker has killed many people, if he wasn't classified as "insane" it would be legal to kill him by government means.

any law enforcement official has every legal right to kill the joker if he is on the streets and is deemed armed and dangerous. its perfectly legal to designate dangerous criminals as shoot-on-sight.

Batman doesn't kill. It would destroy everything he ever fought for.

And personally I think that no one should ever be killed in an DC or Marvel comics, neither through an villain nor an hero except in dire circumstances or in order to explain why killing isn't right. The bloody way people are killed, tortured or raped these days in the comics is just wrong. It doesn't make the comics more mature, it doesn't give them more depth.

It will be pretty hard to make World War scenarios without casulties. And it also won't work to build up ****ed up psychopaths without brutal kills.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
It will be pretty hard to make World War scenarios without casulties. And it also won't work to build up ****ed up psychopaths without brutal kills.

Who needs them anyway. You can have cool stories without this shit ^^.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Batman doesn't kill. It would destroy everything he ever fought for.

And personally I think that no one should ever be killed in an DC or Marvel comics, neither through an villain nor an hero except in dire circumstances or in order to explain why killing isn't right. The bloody way people are killed, tortured or raped these days in the comics is just wrong. It doesn't make the comics more mature, it doesn't give them more depth.

Yeah it does....I like a good rape, torture, murder in my comics. Hell that's why I still read them I was thinking about picking up the Friday the 13th comic.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Yeah it does....I like a good rape, torture, murder in my comics. Hell that's why I still read them I was thinking about picking up the Friday the 13th comic.

Yeah but is it really necessary in Superhero comics from DC or Marvel?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yeah but is it really necessary in Superhero comics from DC or Marvel? IMO yes, what would be the alternative? Seeing Superman who can crush planets and move at the speed of light capture bank robbers and save cats from trees?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
any law enforcement official has every legal right to kill the joker if he is on the streets and is deemed armed and dangerous. its perfectly legal to designate dangerous criminals as shoot-on-sight. First of all, a law enforcement officer that has seen joker and still lives is unlikely. Secondly, I meant after Joker had already gotten turned in (By Batman obviously).

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yeah but is it really necessary in Superhero comics from DC or Marvel?

It's not necessary for story development all the time. But it is necessary for Sabertooth, Bullseye, Punisher foes etc. Extreme violence has made me hate Mr Hyde, Sabertooth, and Bullseye especially since they prey on the very weak like women and children. It gets to the point with those characters. Look at Carnage.

They don't need characters like Juggernaut, absorbing man etc commiting violent crimes like that though.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
It's not necessary for story development all the time. But it is necessary for Sabertooth, Bullseye, Punisher foes etc.

They don't need characters like Juggernaut, absorbing man etc commiting violent crimes like that though.

I felt pretty good when DD killed Bullseye in Shadowland.

They can kill off Daken too, he's an *******.

Originally posted by Parmaniac


I felt pretty good when DD killed Bullseye in Shadowland.

They can kill off Daken too, he's an *******.

I remember when Bullseye killed a father and young son in Thunderbolts I think. I was so happy when that one Native American superhero made Bullseye a qudrapalegic. And yes Daken is an ass.

Doom in a shit stomp!

Looking at the arguments here, I have to give this to Doom...

While Batmans best, PIS-saturated, feats are mind blowing given that he is a street-leveler, they still pale to Dooms best; defeating Classic Beyonder is a far, far, far greater feat than beating the JLA...

Batman beat God in his sleep. Beat that.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Batman beat God in his sleep. Beat that.

Scan/issue please...

Originally posted by Robin Dc
All Batman does is defeat crime he barely even sleeps. Joker has killed many people, if he wasn't classified as "insane" it would be legal to kill him by government means.






I doubt doom could successfully infiltrate Gotham without Batman finding out. The fact that Joker is still alive is one of batmans greatest failures.

For everyone that joker kills when he escapes yet AGAIN batman is partly responsible because he could have ended it once and for all by killing joker.

Doom would permanently end Joker in the same situation

Guys like Joker Zsaz black mask or two-face won't live past one fight with Doom.

Originally posted by godking
The fact that Joker is still alive is one of batmans greatest failures.

For everyone that joker kills when he escapes yet AGAIN batman is partly responsible because he could have ended it once and for all by killing joker.

Doom would permanently end Joker in the same situation

Guys like Joker Zsaz black mask or two-face won't live past one fight with Doom. The joker being alive is not Batmans greatest failure. Batman can't kill the Joker because they are two sides of the same coin. Absolute psychosis driven in two entirely opposite directions.

IMO Batman fears that he could become something like the Joker if he were to truly just snap instead of having his obsessive nature in fighting crime.

Batman uses his detective skills to realize he's outgunned and swears loyality to Doom.

Also no ones answered me what does Batman have raw power wise that tops Marquis of Death Dr. Doom.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Also no ones answered me what does Batman have raw power wise that tops Marquis of Death Dr. Doom.


Batarangs?

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Also, Doom 10/10.