Nebraska Nuclear Power Plant Alert!

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kevdude
Looks like the power plant near Omaha Nebraska is now at a level 4 alert emergency, doesn't look good and might get worse, especially with all the flooding. Hope for the best prepare for anything! Don't know why this isn't on national news!

http://www.trappedonaninsaneplanet.com/?p=109

Symmetric Chaos
If the NRC declared it a level 4 accident then why hasn't the NRC said anything about a level 4 accident yet?

inimalist
from the reports I can find, it seems like an "alert 4" emergency is not a very big risk at all and that the fires/etc have all been managed...

EDIT: I have been pretty much unable to find anything substantive on the issue aside from reports on the 8th that everything is under control

kevdude
Thats what I have just read as well, NRC rating is a level 4 alert, not accident level 4, so glad for that!

Lestov16
Originally posted by kevdude
Looks like the power plant near Omaha Nebraska is now at a level 4 alert emergency, doesn't look good and might get worse, especially with all the flooding. Hope for the best prepare for anything! Don't know why this isn't on national news!

http://www.trappedonaninsaneplanet.com/?p=109

I was just on Wikipedia. A level 4 doesn't sound too terrible. Matter of fact.....

Rogue Jedi
The fact that the plant has been shut down since April 9th due to the floods shows we're on top of it.

Bardock42
Maybe it's out of 500

Rogue Jedi
Do you know what you're talking about? I don't think you know what you're talking about.


Then again, you probably know exactly what you're talking about.

RE: Blaxican
Bardock's signature is so not masculine. It makes it hard for me to even read this thread.

Good thing I have Will Smith's pouty negro face above and below it to compensate.

Also reactors.

Bardock42
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Bardock's signature is so not masculine. It makes it hard for me to even read this thread.

Good thing I have Will Smith's pouty negro face above and below it to compensate.

Also reactors.

You are a tool of the patriarchy. I am not threatened by insinuations of femininity!

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Bardock's signature is so not masculine. It makes it hard for me to even read this thread.

Good thing I have Will Smith's pouty negro face above and below it to compensate.

Also reactors. Archie sucks.

Robtard
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Bardock's signature is so not masculine. It makes it hard for me to even read this thread.

Good thing I have Will Smith's pouty negro face above and below it to compensate.

Also reactors.

His girlfriend makes him do phaggy shit like that, he has more sense and better taste in music, but if he doesn't, she'll turn off the vagina. Poor sap is a slave to it.

Bardock42
Actually she hates that song.


As it is about falling out of love with someone.


Everything Stephin Merritt does is amazing /fact

xHomerx
I don't know what all the fuss is about?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mdVJtyrvD7Q/TY9fQ_6sWRI/AAAAAAAAhoY/aNmclmuD0rI/s1600/homer_nuke.jpg

Bicnarok

Grate the Vraya
Originally posted by xHomerx
I don't know what all the fuss is about?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mdVJtyrvD7Q/TY9fQ_6sWRI/AAAAAAAAhoY/aNmclmuD0rI/s1600/homer_nuke.jpg bahahahahaha!

inimalist
http://www.ncnewspress.com/topstories/x1774073316/Cooper-Nuclear-Station-declares-Notification-of-Unusual-Event



http://www.ketv.com/r/28281114/detail.html

inimalist
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/18-Jun-2011/US-orders-news-blackout-over-crippled-Nebraska-Nuclear-Plant-report

levinaz
I have read about it ..Its really harmful..

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by inimalist
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/18-Jun-2011/US-orders-news-blackout-over-crippled-Nebraska-Nuclear-Plant-report

So the Russians are saying that Obama has a total blackout about the plant and yet we're hearing about it . . .

inimalist
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So the Russians are saying that Obama has a total blackout about the plant and yet we're hearing about it . . .

indeed, I wasn't sure what to make of it, aside from the fact I trust Russian beuracracy less than American

Bicnarok
Just read about Sirens in Minot, everyone has to evacuate.

Is this the same area, read something about "silo" being nearbye?

http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/556001.html

siriuswriter
Being a person who lives in Nebraska, it's probably the fact that the power plant is in Nebraska that negates all the dangerous crap. Who's gonna mess it up... all the cows we've got hanging around?

Rogue Jedi
Oh shit, zombie cows. Mad cow disease for real this time.

Bicnarok
Looks like another plant in Japan and those in the US could go pear shaped as well, not a good year for nuclear energy.

K1IOWCMguVU



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/26/fort-calhoun-flooding-nuclear-plant-nebraska_n_884773.html

Liberator
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, I wasn't sure what to make of it, aside from the fact I trust Russian beuracracy less than American

Still a pretty bold thing for a scientist to say though wouldn't you think?

inimalist
Originally posted by Liberator
Still a pretty bold thing for a scientist to say though wouldn't you think?

thats why I posted it stick out tongue

Darth Jello
If our nuke plants used Tokamac fusion instead of fission, this wouldn't be a problem. Then again, with the recent discovery of antihydrogen atoms in thunderstorm clouds and the technology to store antimatter for long periods of time getting better and better, imagine how much worse a nuclear accident could be in the future...

inimalist
as bad as the deepwater horizon?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Darth Jello
If our nuke plants used Tokamac fusion instead of fission, this wouldn't be a problem.

True, but they wouldn't be producing and power either.

Thorium based molten salt reactors are supposed to be the Gen IV nuke plants on the basis that they would be "walk away safe". A guy that Scientific American interviewed said something about one being hit by an asteroid after the power fails.

inimalist
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
True, but they wouldn't be producing and power either.

Thorium based molten salt reactors are supposed to be the Gen IV nuke plants on the basis that they would be "walk away safe". A guy that Scientific American interviewed said something about one being hit by an asteroid after the power fails.

maybe true, but the industry is pressing regulators to allow them to continue to use old varieties of reactors rather than the hugely expensive upgrades that would be necessary under even lax current regulation. IMHO, it would take a president stronger than Obama on spending to force the industry to make itself that safe

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by inimalist
maybe true, but the industry is pressing regulators to allow them to continue to use old varieties of reactors rather than the hugely expensive upgrades that would be necessary under even lax current regulation. IMHO, it would take a president stronger than Obama on spending to force the industry to make itself that safe

Probably, though these two accidents would make it a PR win (actually they'd make it a PR win two years from now when people barely remember, announcing it today would just produce comparison to how safe Fukushima was supposed to be).

The incentive for someone to do it is also partly economic since thorium is cheaper than uranium, so not quite so much pressure might be needed. The big problem seems to be reprocessing, which no private entity in the US is willing to do. I suspect that will be the main thing killing thorium salt since it means two risky business propositions.

inimalist
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Probably, though these two accidents would make it a PR win (actually they'd make it a PR win two years from now when people barely remember, announcing it today would just produce comparison to how safe Fukushima was supposed to be).

The incentive for someone to do it is also partly economic since thorium is cheaper than uranium, so not quite so much pressure might be needed. The big problem seems to be reprocessing, which no private entity in the US is willing to do. I suspect that will be the main thing killing thorium salt since it means two risky business propositions.

meh, Obama seems willing to forgo other spending options that have widespread support in America

It would be awesome, I'm a total supporter of nuclear, I just think it needs even stricter safety standards than we think are necessary on most things. "walk away" safe would be awesome, but even the nuclear industry is going to be fighting against that, because of the initial costs involved, at least, imho

Darth Jello
Originally posted by inimalist
as bad as the deepwater horizon?
Ever watched Star Trek and wondered how a photon torpedo or a warp core breach worked? I can't really imagine a worse disaster than taking a large chunk of planet Earth, converting it into pure energy, and blasting it in every direction at the speed of light. Nuclear annihilation releases 100 times more energy than the most efficient fusion reaction. It's why it's so difficult to store antiparticles or antimatter, they annihilate on contact with matter.

Oh and the Tokamac works and ITER will prove it. If you're going to use a non-renewable nuclear power source instead of nanophotovoltaic plating and textiles, you may as well use an efficient power source with up to two billion years of reserves.

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