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how much stronger, faster, etc are his abilities compare to his Savage version?


i know he has intelligence over the savage but what else or are they on the same level?

things that would have possibly harmed savage hulk were rendered minor conveniences for green scar, and his strength was elevated to the point where his "calm" level of physical power was comparable to average savage hulk strength. he was always pumped up even though he looked calm and collected, then "worldbreaker" mode is an extension of green scar

hercules getting battered by three blows from green scar? savage hulk while separated from banner fought hercules + namor (fresh out of water) iron man, wonder man, and a few other avengers, even though hulk was actually weakening instead of getting stronger, this was even pointed out by the avengers. the next issue was the avengers helping banner fuse back together to save his life, that's how weak he was.

so WWH wasnt that much stronger than Savage Hulk, he had some immunity against some attacks that Savage didnt have but over all he was the same in terms of fighting and power level.

not talking much on the separation from Bruce Banner.

In WWH, Hulk destroyed Wolverine, and basically, all the line-ups ever of the X-Men. Savage Hulk beat (but struggle a bit) against Wolverine. The Green Scar also beat the shit out of Ben, etc... And he held a planet together at the end of Planet Hulk.

Feat wise he isnt.

Gecko is right -- WWH only outclassed Savage in durability; Savage Hulk's feats are much, much, much better than WWH's.

so Savage Hulk is still stronger and better fighter than WW Hulk?

By virtue of feats, yes.

In the context of the story and Pak's intent, WWH was as strong as Hulk had ever been.

Originally posted by Simbon
Gecko is right -- WWH only outclassed Savage in durability; Savage Hulk's feats are much, much, much better than WWH's. he wasn't trying that's why, his durability and regen are not under his control.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
so Savage Hulk is still stronger and better fighter than WW Hulk?
Savage Hulk has been around longer, so of course he'll have more high-end feats.

Green Scar still held a planet together, still tore up mountain ranges and flung them about, he survived wormholes and deep space unaided (even Surfer couldn't withstand the wormhole in to Sakaar, falling unconscious).

During WWH, he was attempting to minimise conflict and basically focussing on business. He bfr'd distractions and took out his enemies efficiently. There was no scope for showing off or doing high-end feats, until he had his WBH moment, and even then he wasn't actually fully releasing his powers as he was fighting to contain himself.

IIRC, during Hulk's adventures on Nightmare Island, Banner said that Savage Hulk was just Hulk in his infancy, that his powers and abilities were not that great back then and that he has now improved and grown stronger.

They both have infinite strength.

Neither has (as in possesses at any one moment in time) "infinite strength", but they can both keep growing stronger, though that doesn't make both incarnations the same strength.

WWH showed a much higher base level of power, Hulk was dismissing opponents without much effort. He also had far greater durability and his healing was accelerated.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
savage hulk while separated from banner fought hercules + namor (fresh out of water) iron man, wonder man, and a few other avengers, even though hulk was actually weakening instead of getting stronger, this was even pointed out by the avengers. the next issue was the avengers helping banner fuse back together to save his life, that's how weak he was.

That Savage Hulk was more powerful than standard Savage Hulk because he was seperated from Banner.




Originally posted by janus77

IIRC, during Hulk's adventures on Nightmare Island, Banner said that Savage Hulk was just Hulk in his infancy, that his powers and abilities were not that great back then and that he has now improved and grown stronger.

Scans?!

don't have scans to hand, as the statement implied I was going by memory of something I read a while back.

oh and wasn't the Savage Hulk that got separated from Banner, leaking gamma radiation and dying? it was enraged more, I think that's all it was.

Originally posted by janus77
don't have scans to hand, as the statement implied I was going by memory of something I read a while back.

BOOOO!!!

Originally posted by janus77

oh and wasn't the Savage Hulk that got separated from Banner, leaking gamma radiation and dying? it was enraged more, I think that's all it was.

Something like that but for most of the fight he wasn't weakened.

Tempus Fugit is the story-arc, iirc.

Originally posted by janus77
Neither has (as in possesses at any one moment in time) "infinite strength", but they can both keep growing stronger, though that doesn't make both incarnations the same strength.

WWH showed a much higher base level of power, Hulk was dismissing opponents without much effort. He also had far greater durability and his healing was accelerated. I wasnt serious.

Originally posted by SamZED
I wasnt serious.
I was. deal with it

Originally posted by Deadline
That Savage Hulk was more powerful than standard Savage Hulk because he was seperated from Banner.

Scans?! orly?

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/seperationweakness.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/seperationweakness2.jpg

he slowly started to power down, though he fought the aforementioned line-up of the avengers (including herculese, namor, and wonderman)...twice

he did almost manage to kill wonderman with one hand and batter the others + the army in that state. it took several issues to defeat a weakening hulk.

Is that Crimson Dynamo lying there?

What happened next? Betty stopped them?

The Bannerless Hulk is superior to the Savage Hulk but IIRC, after a while, being separated from Banner started killing him.

A lot stronger.

Hype wise, a lot stronger.

Feat wise, his feats were a fair bit above average Savage Hulk's but definitely not high end Savage Hulk's.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Is that Crimson Dynamo lying there?

What happened next? Betty stopped them? both hulk's and banner's atoms started to disperse rapidly to the point that they doubled in size in moments and were transparent, something to do with the cohesion of their molecules iirc. the vision had to increase the hulk's density with his power

WWH wasnt greater than Savage Hulk at all in ay department, it's just WWH fans hype him up to be something he's not.

cry more

Going with assumption, WWH should be strong as or more than savage Hulk.

Big differences between the two, is the micro management WWH does with his power.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
orly?

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/seperationweakness.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/seperationweakness2.jpg

he slowly started to power down, though he fought the aforementioned line-up of the avengers (including herculese, namor, and wonderman)...twice

he did almost manage to kill wonderman with one hand and batter the others + the army in that state. it took several issues to defeat a weakening hulk.

He was getting weaker because he was dying due to being seperated from Banner but apart from that he was stronger because he was less intelligent.

He wasn't powering down he was dying.

WWH is skyfather level and would beat the living shit out of Odin, Zeus and if pissed enough he will oneshot Big G.

Sorry haterz.

Originally posted by Deadline
He was getting weaker because he was dying due to being seperated from Banner but apart from that he was stronger because he was less intelligent.

He wasn't powering down he was dying. . . .

"Yeah, usually the madder he gets, the stronger he gets -- but if anything, he seems to be getting weaker!"

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i know right

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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"Yeah, usually the madder he gets, the stronger he gets -- but if anything, he seems to be getting weaker!"

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This pretty much explains what I said before.

http://mynetimages.com/viewimage/fc20b4ac

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"Ah -- perhaps that explains why the Hulk was losing strength."

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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"Ah -- perhaps that explains why the Hulk was losing strength."

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Its pretty obvious that the writer was trying to give you a hint. Also Betty Ross seemed pretty convinced that was the reason. If you read the rest of the story they were joined together and they stopped dying.

By the way 'it seems' its pretty much the same as 'perhaps'.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WWH is skyfather level and would beat the living shit out of Odin, Zeus and if pissed enough he will oneshot Big G.

Sorry haterz.

yup only haters dont believe this

anyway, in latest incredible hulk issues he's been casually shitting on a majority of his old enemies, and they were amped in different ways themselves.

abomination = owned.

well, savage hulk already beat him down to the point of developing intense fear of the hulk, even to the point of crying when modok told him to find him. he's nothing now

red hulk = owned and humbled.

he was somewhere in the same league as an eneraged savage hulk in strength, hulk casually tore him a new one

armaggedon = destroyed

they never had any fisticuffs iirc, but his blast power was tailored to harm the hulk. now he's a non-factor against current hulk

wendigo = casual annoyance

even amped a thousandfold he was easily beaten

bi-beast = chumped

same deal as wendigo

all that's really left are the u-foes, the juggernaut, and thor