Funny riddle

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Astner
A sister is as old as the brother will be when the sister is twice the age that the brother was when the sister's age was half the sum of their present ages.

What are the relation between their ages?

RE: Blaxican
They're both younger than 100 years old.

That's a stupid riddle.

Dave_97
the sister was really just a man in a dress.

Astner
Since Blaxican is such a buzz-kill I'm going to give it a shot.

Here's a tabular for the relations.

http://i.imgur.com/tama0.png

Since we know that there's always a constant number of days in-between them we can construct (and solve) the following matrix.

http://i.imgur.com/kIUE1.png

Meaning that the relation is such that the sister is 4/3rds as old as her brother.

So the thread is now about checking if that's accurate.

Dave_97
we need to go deeper

RE: Blaxican
Originally posted by Astner
Since Blaxican is such a buzz-kill


You know you love it.

Miss Fiend
Wait did I miss the funny part?

That ACDC Chick
Originally posted by Miss Fiend
Wait did I miss the funny part?
i think it's supposed to be hidden in all that mathematics drivel

sorry, guess im just too retarded to get the punchline

Miss Fiend
ahahaa mathematics laughing all the ones and twos just so silly.


no expression

RE: Blaxican
Leave him alone, guys. People get off from different things. I get off to big booty'd bitches, Robtard gets off to my cousin, and Astner gets off to mathematical formulae. Be tolerant.

Astner
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Leave him alone, guys. People get off from different things. I get off to big booty'd bitches, Robtard gets off to my cousin, and Astner gets off to mathematical formulae. Be tolerant.
http://www.wethinkllc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/douchebag.jpg

Miss Fiend
Oh all right FINE. shifty

lord xyz
Originally posted by Astner
Since Blaxican is such a buzz-kill I'm going to give it a shot.

Here's a tabular for the relations.

http://i.imgur.com/tama0.png

Since we know that there's always a constant number of days in-between them we can construct (and solve) the following matrix.

http://i.imgur.com/kIUE1.png

Meaning that the relation is such that the sister is 4/3rds as old as her brother.

So the thread is now about checking if that's accurate. The future sister would be 2z.

Read it again.

lord xyz
(x+y)/2 - z = x - y = 2z - x = c (constant, which is difference between ages)
Gonna do present n future first.
2z - y - c = 0
Oh shit, I gotta differentiate both y and z and find out the constant, then do the same logic for the past part of the sum.

I gave up on Maths at A Level, and it's 20 past 4. **** that, I'm going to bed, but I think I layed down some of the foundation stuff.

Astner
Originally posted by lord xyz
The future sister would be 2z.

Read it again.
A mistyping. You can clearly see in the last row of the first matrix that I wrote: (-1 0 2)

Meaning -1 x, 0 y and 2 z.

The calculation is correct. Learn your linear algebra for ****'s sake.

General G
People need to caaaaaalm down up in here.

Grate the Vraya
Oh man, ALGEBRA?! You're killin me! roflroflrofl

Rogue Jedi
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mac-11
Originally posted by lord xyz
(x+y)/2 - z = x - y = 2z - x = c (constant, which is difference between ages)
Gonna do present n future first.
2z - y - c = 0
Oh shit, I gotta differentiate both y and z and find out the constant, then do the same logic for the past part of the sum.

I gave up on Maths at A Level, and it's 20 past 4. **** that, I'm going to bed, but I think I layed down some of the foundation stuff.

I think you "laid" down a gross misspelling.

Bardock42
Well, that's a riddle, I don't see what's funny about it though. It may be a fun riddle to some. Astner is correct though.

Thoren
Riddle me this???? herb

lord xyz
(x+y)/2 - c = z
x - c = y
2z - c = x

2z - c = y + c
2z - 2c = y
z - c = y/2
{(x+y)/2 - c} - c = y/2
(x+y)/2 - 2c = y/2
x + y - 4c = y
x = 4c

4c - c = y
y = 3c

Yeah, the sister is 4/3s as old as the brother

2z - c = 4c
2z = 5c
z = 5/2c

(x+y)/2 - 5/2c = c
x + y - 5c = 2c
x + y = 7c

Yep, all consistent. c=x/4

x = 16
y = 12

(12+16)/2 - (16-12) = z
14 - 4 = 10
2(10) - 4 = 16
20 - 4 = 16

x = 12
y = 9

(12+9)/2 - 3 = z
10.5 - 3 = 7.5
15 - 3 = 12

I don't understand any of that shit in brackets, but I worked out the difference between their ages.

Astner
Originally posted by lord xyz
(x+y)/2 - c = z
x - c = y
2z - c = x

2z - c = y + c
2z - 2c = y
z - c = y/2
{(x+y)/2 - c} - c = y/2
(x+y)/2 - 2c = y/2
x + y - 4c = y
x = 4c

4c - c = y
y = 3c

Yeah, the sister is 4/3s as old as the brother

2z - c = 4c
2z = 5c
z = 5/2c

(x+y)/2 - 5/2c = c
x + y - 5c = 2c
x + y = 7c

Yep, all consistent. c=x/4

x = 16
y = 12

(12+16)/2 - (16-12) = z
14 - 4 = 10
2(10) - 4 = 16
20 - 4 = 16

x = 12
y = 9

(12+9)/2 - 3 = z
10.5 - 3 = 7.5
15 - 3 = 12

I don't understand any of that shit in brackets, but I worked out the difference between their ages.
I can reconstruct another one if you'd like.

A mother is half as old as her son will be when the mother's age is twice the sum of the age of the mother and the son when the mother was as old as the son currently is.

lord xyz
Mother's current age: x
Son's current age: y
Difference between ages: c

Mother's future age: 2x+c
Son's future age: 2x
Mother's past age: z+c
Son's past age: z

z+c=y
2(2z+c)=2x+c
c=x-y

2(2(y-c)+c)=2x+c
2(2y-2c+c)=2x+c
4y-4c+2c=2x+c
4y-2c=2x+c
4y=2x+3c
4y=2x+3(x-y)
4y=2x+3x-3y
7y=5x
y=5/7x

Son is 5/7s the age of his mother.

x-y=c
x-(5/7)x=c
2/7x=c

x=35
y=25
c=10
z=25-10=15

2(2z+c)=2x+c
2(2(15)+10)=2(35)+10
2(30+10)=17+10
2(40)=80

wink

Astner
Or simply:

http://i.imgur.com/iEqNi.png

It's virtually the same thing. But it's less messy to solve with matrix algebra and you can even recreate similar problems like I just did without having to spend a lot of time on it.

lord xyz
I do not understand Matrix Algebra.

Although you are right, simultaneous equations are a real *****.

Astner
Originally posted by lord xyz
I do not understand Matrix Algebra.

Although you are right, simultaneous equations are a real *****.
It's rather simple actually, it's the same type.

Say you have three equations.

x + y - z
2x - 3z
3y

You'd write that:

1 1 -1
2 0 -3
0 3 0

Then you subtract or add lines with one another until you get something like.

1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1

In which case that would be translated to

x =
y =
z =

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