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The fight takes place in New York.

Spider-man via webbing and a punch to the head.

If this is to the KO, what Rob said, and quite easily.

The fight ends when one of the combatants is ko'ed, dead or incapacitated.

Spidey then.

I'm leaning towards Spider-man but Wolverine can end the fight with one stab.

Spidey is way too fast, Wolvie'll never touch him.

That's most likely true but if he does the fight is over.

The problem is Wolverine's damage soak, he can be knocked out by Sabes one time and resist Dark Phoenix's attacks the next. His healing factor is all over the place.

I'd say wolverine since Spiderman's punches are shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd say wolverine since Spiderman's punches are shit.

Where did you get that idea?

Originally posted by Psychotron
That's most likely true but if he does the fight is over.

The problem is Wolverine's damage soak, he can be knocked out by Sabes one time and resist Dark Phoenix's attacks the next. His healing factor is all over the place. Spidey wraps him up, swings him around and slams him into the ground over and over.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Where did you get that idea?

Remember when he punched Flash in the chest? It knocked him back but didn't kill him or anything.

Remember when he was fighting to save his only family member's life? He was unloading on Doc Oc's head and yet...Doc Oc wasn't getting his head punched clean off.

Seems like his punches are shit.

Additionally, putting webbing all over wolverine will be useless because he can still easily cut through it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember when he punched Flash in the chest? It knocked him back but didn't kill him or anything.

Remember when he was fighting to save his only family member's life? He was unloading on Doc Oc's head and yet...Doc Oc wasn't getting his head punched clean off.

Seems like his punches are shit.

Additionally, putting webbing all over wolverine will be useless because he can still easily cut through it. If he waps Wolvie up with Wolvie's hands at his sides, how's he gonna cut through?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If he waps Wolvie up with Wolvie's hands at his sides, how's he gonna cut through?

How's he going to do that when Wolvie has superhuman reflexes and strength?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember when he punched Flash in the chest? It knocked him back but didn't kill him or anything.

Remember when he was fighting to save his only family member's life? He was unloading on Doc Oc's head and yet...Doc Oc wasn't getting his head punched clean off.

Seems like his punches are shit.

Additionally, putting webbing all over wolverine will be useless because he can still easily cut through it.

It sent him flying back at least 5 meters, in real life that would have killed him.

Ock was also unharmed when he got hit with that bag full of coins. He also survived that table (or desk) that hit him with enough force to send him flying at least 10 meters through a window. Ock was either protected by plot armor or he has inhuman damage soak. Spider-man normally lays out most normal humans with one or two punches, besides he holds back because he doesn't kill.

He can easily tie Wolverine's hands in a way he can't his way out.

Originally posted by Psychotron
It sent him flying back at least 5 meters, in real life that would have killed him.

No it wouldn't have. And I've been knocked 7 yards (6 meters), IRL, myself, in an American Football game. I didn't break any bones, got only light bruising, and no headache.

That settles that.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Ock was also unharmed when he got hit with that bag full of coins. He also survived that table (or desk) that hit him with enough force to send him flying at least 10 meters through a window. Ock was either protected by plot armor or he has inhuman damage soak. Spider-man normally lays out most normal humans with one or two punches, besides he holds back because he doesn't kill./B]

None of those items you listed are 100% lethal.

Originally posted by Psychotron
He can easily tie Wolverine's hands in a way he can't his way out.

And Wolverine can easily cut away the webbing as Spidey tries to tie him up.

Next?

Originally posted by dadudemon
How's he going to do that when Wolvie has superhuman reflexes and strength?


Spidey's reflexes are better. Dude dodged bullets.

Spidey's punches won't do shit to an adamantium skeleton, and Wolvie is too slow to tag Spidey.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No it wouldn't have. And I've been knocked 7 yards (6 meters), IRL, myself, in an American Football game. I didn't break any bones, got only light bruising, and no headache.

That settles that.



None of those items you listed are 100% lethal.



And Wolverine can easily cut away the webbing as Spidey tries to tie him up.

Next?

You've been sent FLYING back 6 meters? Nonsense. Everyone's been hit or tackled and sent backwards but Flash was literally in the air. That would have at least broken a rib in real life.

I'm sure getting hit with a bag that must be at least 10 kilograms (most likely more) with enough force to leave a mark on the wall behind you is not dangerous at all. Never mind the part where you get hit with a desk and fly crashing through a window and in a car. Wolverine has been knocked out by far less.

What happens when his wrists get tied together? Does he bite his way out?

Originally posted by Impediment
Spidey's punches won't do shit to an adamantium skeleton, and Wolvie is too slow to tag Spidey.

A bullet knocked out Wolverine as did Sabertooth.

Double post

Originally posted by Impediment
Spidey's punches won't do shit to an adamantium skeleton, and Wolvie is too slow to tag Spidey. Wrapping Wolvie up and swinging him around like a sack of oranges, slamming him over and over into the ground could KO Wolvie.

there is not a damn thing logan can do to parker..

logan cannot even touch parker

Claws and mutant strength cut through the webs. Despite his being held at bay by steel in the statue of liberty, he is still a strong mofo.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wrapping Wolvie up and swinging him around like a sack of oranges, slamming him over and over into the ground could KO Wolvie.

agreed

Originally posted by Impediment
Claws and mutant strength cut through the webs. Despite his being held at bay by steel in the statue of liberty, he is still a strong mofo.

Can't cut when your arms are pinned. Webs are also sticky.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You've been sent FLYING back 6 meters? Nonsense.

Truth. We watched that reply over and over and over and they had a good laugh.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Everyone's been hit or tackled and sent backwards but Flash was literally in the air. That would have at least broken a rib in real life.

But, it didn't. And I'm definitely not superhuman and neither was Flash.

That's the end of this particular line of discussion.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I'm sure getting hit with a bag that must be at least 10 kilograms (most likely more) with enough force to leave a mark on the wall behind you is not dangerous at all. Never mind the part where you get hit with a desk and fly crashing through a window and in a car. Wolverine has been knocked out by far less.

10 kilograms is actually about the right weight.

And, no, sorry...it wouldn't do jack crap. Watch the scene again and watch how it hit him: hardly any inertia in that bag.

Looks like those coins are much lighter (density) than quarters (USD).

Also, he absorbed lots of that impact during his "flight" with his arms. That's why I said what I said.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What happens when his wrists get tied together? Does he bite his way out?

Simple: it never happens to begin with.

The lowballing in this thread is moronic. Peter wins with ease by being a dozen times faster and a dozen times stronger.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The lowballing in this thread is moronic. Peter wins with ease by being a dozen times faster and a dozen times stronger.

Spiderman showed us his high-end strength feat and that wasn't the train scene, it was holding the cable car and tossing. It fit nicely with his 10-15 ton lifter stats.

His strength is about 5 times as much as Wolverine's, at the most.

He's also no where near a dozen times faster. Even comic Spiderman isn't a dozen times faster than a regular human in speed (I believe, at one point, he ran along side a car that was driving 45 mph).

The Flash Fight scene showed us his perception when he's in fight-mode, it's considerably faster than Wolverines. He could casually dodge Wolverine's swipes all day long.

Comic Spider-Man can dodge machine-gun spray fired a close range. Just saying.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Flash Fight scene showed us his perception when he's in fight-mode, it's considerably faster than Wolverines. He could casually dodge Wolverine's swipes all day long.

Comic Spider-Man can dodge machine-gun spray fired a close range. Just saying.


when he had his "spider sense"

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Peter wins with ease by being a dozen times faster and a dozen times stronger.
This... i say Peter wins off the 1st punch

Originally posted by Robtard
Can't cut when your arms are pinned. Webs are also sticky. WTIuYjzqBU0&feature=related

Originally posted by dadudemon
Truth. We watched that reply over and over and over and they had a good laugh.



But, it didn't. And I'm definitely not superhuman and neither was Flash.

That's the end of this particular line of discussion.



10 kilograms is actually about the right weight.

And, no, sorry...it wouldn't do jack crap. Watch the scene again and watch how it hit him: hardly any inertia in that bag.

Looks like those coins are much lighter (density) than quarters (USD).

Also, he absorbed lots of that impact during his "flight" with his arms. That's why I said what I said.



Simple: it never happens to begin with.

Dude, stop ignoring the fact Spider-man can hit hard enough to kill normal humans if he wants to. He casually knocks out criminals all the time. Far weaker punches can brake a man's ribs, this should have sent Flash to the hospital.

The bag had plenty of inertia, that's why it ****ed up the wall behind him.

You're wrong, when he got hit by the desk he couldn't react fast enough, he couldn't protect himself with his arms, he also smashed a transformer before hitting the car. Watch the scene again. Ock obviously has great damage soak.

Wolverine has been ko'ed by less, a few solid shots from a non-holding back Spider-man will ko him. What speed feats does Wolverine have to suggest he can avoid getting webbed up?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Dude, stop ignoring the fact Spider-man can hit hard enough to kill normal humans if he wants to. He casually knocks out criminals all the time. Far weaker punches can brake a man's ribs, this should have sent Flash to the hospital.

And stop ignoring what I said. Just because you type words and post them, does not mean they are true.

And you said, "he casually knocks out criminals all the time." Keep that in other forums, not here. This is the MVF. Movies only.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The bag had plenty of inertia, that's why it ****ed up the wall behind him.

That's the wall, not Doc Oc. Teenage boys just messing around can put holes in the wall on accident. Hardly this magnificent feat of destruction you want it to be.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You're wrong, when he got hit by the desk he couldn't react fast enough, he couldn't protect himself with his arms, he also smashed a transformer before hitting the car. Watch the scene again. Ock obviously has great damage soak.

You're wrong: it wasn't as much damage as you're giving it credit for and his magical arms absorbed some of the impact.

Watch the scene again.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Wolverine has been ko'ed by less, a few solid shots from a non-holding back Spider-man will ko him. What speed feats does Wolverine have to suggest he can avoid getting webbed up?

He's also stayed awake under much more powerful damage, too.

Well, that settles that since we are using high end feats.

Next?


Speed of claws: the fast-forwarded chopping up of the excape ladder, of course.

Next?

Originally posted by dadudemon
And stop ignoring what I said. Just because you type words and post them, does not mean they are true.

And you said, "he casually knocks out criminals all the time." Keep that in other forums, not here. This is the MVF. Movies only.



That's the wall, not Doc Oc. Teenage boys just messing around can put holes in the wall on accident. Hardly this magnificent feat of destruction you want it to be.



You're wrong: it wasn't as much damage as you're giving it credit for and his magical arms absorbed some of the impact.

Watch the scene again.



He's also stayed awake under much more powerful damage, too.

Well, that settles that since we are using high end feats.

Next?


Speed of claws: the fast-forwarded chopping up of the excape ladder, of course.

Next?

What have you said? Some football story that's supposed to prove a normal human can take shots like that without injury? Oh, how could I have ignored that. When I said he ko'es criminals all the time I meant in the movies.

We're not talking about a little hole and it was Ock's body that made it.

The table hit him head on with his arms on his sides, they didn't absorb shit. What's worse is he hit the window, transformer and car (moved by the force of the impact btw) with his back where the arms are connected with his spine, I bet that wasn't painful at all.

Yeah, that's why I said it's not consistent.

Not really impressive.

DDM is a serial rapist.

Originally posted by dadudemon
How's he going to do that when Wolvie has superhuman reflexes and strength?




When has he showed superhuman strength? And Spidey's reflexes are about 100 times faster.. Remember Flash moving in slow motion..

Also he doesnt need to punch with his fists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4qOXg_PMUg

Skip to 0:30

I think Wolverine may be faster than Flash Thompson

Originally posted by Psychotron
What have you said? Some football story that's supposed to prove a normal human can take shots like that without injury? Oh, how could I have ignored that. When I said he ko'es criminals all the time I meant in the movies.

Yeah, you seem to glaze over the fact that you've got jack diddly squat.

Also, yeah, you're not talking about the movies because he didn't knock out tons of criminals all the times in the movies.

Originally posted by Psychotron
We're not talking about a little hole and it was Ock's body that made it.

The table hit him head on with his arms on his sides, they didn't absorb shit. What's worse is he hit the window, transformer and car (moved by the force of the impact btw) with his back where the arms are connected with his spine, I bet that wasn't painful at all.

And yet, you've still done nothing to counter what I've said: his arms absorbed some of the impact.

Without the arms, he would have been injured even more. Without the arms, he would not have done that much damage.


Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, that's why I said it's not consistent.

Not really impressive.

Regardless, it's more than fast enough and that's all that counts.



Originally posted by DARTH POWER
When has he showed superhuman strength? And Spidey's reflexes are about 100 times faster.. Remember Flash moving in slow motion..

I love this question. Wolverine is definitly in the 1-2 ton range of lifting. Easily.

If someone wants to requote where I talked about this, I'm okay with that. I, however, don't care to.


Maybe this should be part of the Wolverine respect thread so people will stop covering the same things over and over again?

Originally posted by dadudemon


I love this question. Wolverine is definitly in the 1-2 ton range of lifting. Easily.

If someone wants to requote where I talked about this, I'm okay with that. I, however, don't care to.


Maybe this should be part of the Wolverine respect thread so people will stop covering the same things over and over again?

This is the movie forum. Movie Wolverine has displayed no superhuman strength as far as I can remember. You need more proof than "he definetely can.."

Originally posted by steverules_2
I think Wolverine may be faster than Flash Thompson

Proof that Flash(or any human) moves in slow motion to Wolverine??

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, you seem to glaze over the fact that you've got jack diddly squat.

Also, yeah, you're not talking about the movies because he didn't knock out tons of criminals all the times in the movies.



And yet, you've still done nothing to counter what I've said: his arms absorbed some of the impact.

Without the arms, he would have been injured even more. Without the arms, he would not have done that much damage.




Regardless, it's more than fast enough and that's all that counts.





I love this question. Wolverine is definitly in the 1-2 ton range of lifting. Easily.

If someone wants to requote where I talked about this, I'm okay with that. I, however, don't care to.


Maybe this should be part of the Wolverine respect thread so people will stop covering the same things over and over again?

What? Show me a human having the strength to sent someone flying with with a single punch. Also, this a Peter Parker who didn't even know how to use his powers yet.

Yes he did. I remember the first time he starts to take pictures of himself, he beats the shit out of some guys trying to rob an armored truck. He also easily beats up the 4-5 guys that try to rape MJ. You need to watch Spider-man again.

No they didn't . How could they absorb the hit when it hits him right in the body and face? And he wasn't injured at all, that's the point. Ock has great damage soak. How about when Ock and Spider-man fall off the clock and on the train? He was completely unharmed.

Fast enough for what? You saw how Parker perceives time, he's much faster than Wolverine. If Spider-man really wants to dick around he can just stay out of reach and cover Wolverine in webs or throw stuff at him and there isn't a damn thing Wolverine can do about it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
DDM is a cereal rapist.

fixed

Parker wins this.

Logan ain't moving himself enough to cut through 5-7 wide burst web blasts.

Parker can then seal his mouth and nose with webbing ala when he webbed J Jonah's mouth shut.

Peter could start punching Logan's head in while he suffocates to K.O. Comic Logan can survive such a death but movie I don't know.

Spidey with ease. He has 10+ tonne strength. Slow motion feats. He holds back his punches obviously when he fights thugs. He learnt his strength when he snapped the arm of the thug that killed Uncle Ben. Those punches to Doc Ock should've snapped his neck but Spidey has no intent to kill.

Doc Ock, Sandman and Green Goblin would waste movie Logan as well.

Spider-Man can basically web his hands to a wall at a position where the claws are ineffective the same way Magneto did him in the statue of liberty during the first film.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What? Show me a human having the strength to sent someone flying with with a single punch. Also, this a Peter Parker who didn't even know how to use his powers yet.

This isn't about a human being able to punch someone 4 meters, this is about a human being able to take blunt trauma that would send them flying 4 meters.

But, if you want an example, apparantly, the 1-inch punch from Bruce Lee was enough to send someone flying 10 feet...in a very similar place that Flash got punched.

Granted, 10 feet is not the same as the 10 feet Flash flew because Flash slid after he hit the ground meaning there was more inertia. BUT...granted...the floor Flash was on was much smoother than the cememt or whatever that the dude we have documented, in video, landed on after getting punched by Bruce Lee.

Even so, amen.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yes he did. I remember the first time he starts to take pictures of himself, he beats the shit out of some guys trying to rob an armored truck. He also easily beats up the 4-5 guys that try to rape MJ. You need to watch Spider-man again.

SOOOOOOO...for you..knocking out tons of criminals means two scenes in which he beat on criminals, knocking out very little of them, and them running away...or getting webbed up, correct? So a total of 6 guys getting beat on but one getting knocked out is some how "knocking out tons of criminals?"

Maybe you should go back and watch the movies again.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No they didn't . How could they absorb the hit when it hits him right in the body and face? And he wasn't injured at all, that's the point. Ock has great damage soak. How about when Ock and Spider-man fall off the clock and on the train? He was completely unharmed.

Yes-huuuuuh! dur

Well, that settles that comeback.

Oc does not have great damage soak: Spiderman has weak-ass punches. Especially if you consider force = mass * acceleration. He'd have to be swinging his arms SUPER fast in order to punch off Oc's head, as others suggest he could. Not only could he not do that, he didn't do that, he didn't have the leverage, and his skinny arms were not swining nearly fast enough to accomplish that.


In other words, I'm right, you're wrong.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Fast enough for what? You saw how Parker perceives time, he's much faster than Wolverine. If Spider-man really wants to dick around he can just stay out of reach and cover Wolverine in webs or throw stuff at him and there isn't a damn thing Wolverine can do about it.

Parker may percieve time faster than Wolverine, but not nearly as much as Parker compared to a normal human...which is kind of the point.

Additionally, Parker seemed to not be able to react fast enough to many things that occured to him. It was his spider sense that helped him avoid some of the more awesome damage.

Parker will try and throw webbing and wolverine and Logan will react more than fast enough to chop it right up and there's not a damn thing Parker can do about it.




And for those of you that say that Spiderman was pulling his punches against Oc's head when they were on the side of the building, I ask you to show a scene where Spiderman showed moving his punches fast enough to punch someone's head off. Flash Thompson's flight was more of him using his strength after impact to continue sending Flash flying because of how strong Parker was, his could continue moving his arm at the same speed in which he threw the punch, transferring much more kinetic energy to Flash's body over a longer period of time.

Spider-Man not obliterating a normal human's face can easily be explained by Uncle Ben's law: "With great power, comes great responsibility". Parker's not a killer, he restrains himself as to not kill.

IIRC, he does show his strength in punching when he's fighting the likes of the Globlins, people who can take mass punishment.

Another example of some punching strength, he sent Flash flying back like a rag-doll with his final hit.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The lowballing in this thread is moronic.

Originally posted by Robtard
Spider-Man not obliterating a normal human's face can easily be explained by Uncle Ben's law: "With great power, comes great responsibility". Parker's not a killer, he restrains himself as to not kill.

And it can be explained by a much better and realistic explanation: he's simply not moving his arms fast enough to obliterate the faces of the human bad guys. This is not only true, it's a point I made more than 2 years ago. It's not like I'm bringing anything new to the thread.

In fact, all of my arguments are not new at all, when it comes to Spiderman.

Originally posted by Robtard
IIRC, he does show his strength in punching when he's fighting the likes of the Globlins, people who can take mass punishment.

No he doesn't because they would be punching each other many feet like in Flash Thompson's case.

Let's call it for what it actually is: PIS in the guise of CIS.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This isn't about a human being able to punch someone 4 meters, this is about a human being able to take blunt trauma that would send them flying 4 meters.

But, if you want an example, apparantly, the 1-inch punch from Bruce Lee was enough to send someone flying 10 feet...in a very similar place that Flash got punched.

Granted, 10 feet is not the same as the 10 feet Flash flew because Flash slid after he hit the ground meaning there was more inertia. BUT...granted...the floor Flash was on was much smoother than the cememt or whatever that the dude we have documented, in video, landed on after getting punched by Bruce Lee.

Even so, amen.



SOOOOOOO...for you..knocking out tons of criminals means two scenes in which he beat on criminals, knocking out very little of them, and them running away...or getting webbed up, correct? So a total of 6 guys getting beat on but one getting knocked out is some how "knocking out tons of criminals?"

Maybe you should go back and watch the movies again.



Yes-huuuuuh! dur

Well, that settles that comeback.

Oc does not have great damage soak: Spiderman has weak-ass punches. Especially if you consider force = mass * acceleration. He'd have to be swinging his arms SUPER fast in order to punch off Oc's head, as others suggest he could. Not only could he not do that, he didn't do that, he didn't have the leverage, and his skinny arms were not swining nearly fast enough to accomplish that.


In other words, I'm right, you're wrong.



Parker may percieve time faster than Wolverine, but not nearly as much as Parker compared to a normal human...which is kind of the point.

Additionally, Parker seemed to not be able to react fast enough to many things that occured to him. It was his spider sense that helped him avoid some of the more awesome damage.

Parker will try and throw webbing and wolverine and Logan will react more than fast enough to chop it right up and there's not a damn thing Parker can do about it.




And for those of you that say that Spiderman was pulling his punches against Oc's head when they were on the side of the building, I ask you to show a scene where Spiderman showed moving his punches fast enough to punch someone's head off. Flash Thompson's flight was more of him using his strength after impact to continue sending Flash flying because of how strong Parker was, his could continue moving his arm at the same speed in which he threw the punch, transferring much more kinetic energy to Flash's body over a longer period of time.

Utter nonsense. Bruce Lee's one inch punch doesn't send anyone flying, it just forces them stumbling back. Huge difference.

I saw the movie recently, and I know in both those scenes he doesn't web up anyone, he just beats them up especially in the second one. Try again. And really what more do you want? He beats up Flash, he beats up Bonesaw, he beats up a bunch of thieves, he beats up some rapists, it's enough to show just how superior Spider-man is to normal humans even when he is holding back.

Uh-huh, so getting hit with a table that has enough force to send him flying at least 20 meters through a window, a transformer, and in a car and getting up unharmed is something normal humans can do? Or a fall dozens of meters on to a moving train, again unharmed, and that's normal? Ock has great damage soak, deal with it. His arms can still move much faster than a humans, and his strength is enough to kill anyone. He beats the crap out of Goblin (a real super human) with just a few punches when he's pissed.

Sorry, you're not right just because you claim to be.

Wolverine has no real reaction feats, he'll get webbed up easily. In fact, you've mentioned no feats for him, aside from the ladder scene, despite claiming he's in the 1-2 ton range, and has reflexes fast to keep up with Spider-man. Like I said Spider-man can easily stay out of range (not that he needs to) and what does Wolverine do then?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Utter nonsense. Bruce Lee's one inch punch doesn't send anyone flying, it just forces them stumbling back. Huge difference.

Yeah, except that's not the case.

Nice try.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I saw the movie recently, and I know in both those scenes he doesn't web up anyone, he just beats them up especially in the second one. Try again. And really what more do you want? He beats up Flash, he beats up Bonesaw, he beats up a bunch of thieves, he beats up some rapists, it's enough to show just how superior Spider-man is to normal humans even when he is holding back.

Sorry, bro, he webbed up criminals. You should go back and watch the films.

He never beat up Flash. Flash got up and walked away because he was scared pooooooopless.


Also, no matter how many red herrings you throw at me, you have still yhet to admit that you were wrong: he didn't knock out a ton of criminals.




Originally posted by Psychotron
Uh-huh, so getting hit with a table that has enough force to send him flying at least 20 meters through a window, a transformer, and in a car and getting up unharmed is something normal humans can do?

Yup, especially with nearly indestructable arms absorbing some of the impact.


People get into intersection crashes all the time and they fly quite far in the air, get up, get back on their bikes, and drive off.

I like how you keep revisiting the same points over and over again as though they somehow magically become valid.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Or a fall dozens of meters on to a moving train, again unharmed, and that's normal? Ock has great damage soak, deal with it. His arms can still move much faster than a humans, and his strength is enough to kill anyone. He beats the crap out of Goblin (a real super human) with just a few punches when he's pissed.

Again, more impact absorption from the arms.


Oc has above average damage soak mostly due to his arms. Deal with it.

Leave the comic book crap in the other forums.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sorry, you're not right just because you claim to be.

I know you are but what am I?

Think of a better come back, please.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Wolverine has no real reaction feats, he'll get webbed up easily. In fact, you've mentioned no feats for him, aside from the ladder scene, despite claiming he's in the 1-2 ton range, and has reflexes fast to keep up with Spider-man. Like I said Spider-man can easily stay out of range (not that he needs to) and what does Wolverine do then?

Yeah he does. Nice try. This is where you ask me to cite my sources. Then I reply with "X-men 1, 2, 3, and Origins." Then I win the threads.


And, no, I've alluded to multiple feats which most are aware of.


If Spidey stays out of range, he loses by default: not fighting is the same as giving up because it's a BFR, bro.

Originally posted by dadudemon

If Spidey stays out of range, he loses by default: not fighting is the same as giving up because it's a BFR, bro.

Spidey staying 20-30 mtrs out of range in a tussle is not BFR.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Proof that Flash(or any human) moves in slow motion to Wolverine??

Proof that he isn't

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, except that's not the case.

Nice try.



Sorry, bro, he webbed up criminals. You should go back and watch the films.

He never beat up Flash. Flash got up and walked away because he was scared pooooooopless.


Also, no matter how many red herrings you throw at me, you have still yhet to admit that you were wrong: he didn't knock out a ton of criminals.






Yup, especially with nearly indestructable arms absorbing some of the impact.


People get into intersection crashes all the time and they fly quite far in the air, get up, get back on their bikes, and drive off.

I like how you keep revisiting the same points over and over again as though they somehow magically become valid.



Again, more impact absorption from the arms.


Oc has above average damage soak mostly due to his arms. Deal with it.

Leave the comic book crap in the other forums.



I know you are but what am I?

Think of a better come back, please.



Yeah he does. Nice try. This is where you ask me to cite my sources. Then I reply with "X-men 1, 2, 3, and Origins." Then I win the threads.


And, no, I've alluded to multiple feats which most are aware of.


If Spidey stays out of range, he loses by default: not fighting is the same as giving up because it's a BFR, bro.

More nonsense. I have the movie, Spider-man beats up 5 robbers, and 5 rapists, he doesn't tie up anyone in those scenes. Watch the movie.

Flash didn't get up at all, the scene ends when Peter leaves.

You know, I wasn't being literal, but if I was , if we assume each of the guys he ko'es was around 80 kilograms than he knocks out around 800 kilograms of criminals on screen in the first movie. Almost a ton.

What is this magic world where the indestructible arms on your back protect you from attacks in the front?

Those are rare cases, not the norm. Don't use exceptions to prove a point.

Could be, but it's unclear if falls on his back or front or on his sides. Even if he does hit the train with his back, those arms are still connected to his spine so Ock's spine must be pretty damn strong.

Also, I like how you ignored the part about Goblin, it won't go away just because you don't have a way to lowball it. You wanted punching power, there it is. Goblin has superhuman durability, and a non-holding back Spider-man beat the shit out of him.

No he doesn't, I've seen all of the X-men movies + Origins. You're the one making the claim Wolverine is fast enough to keep up with Spider-man, it's up to you to prove it.

Staying out of reach and webbing him up is not BFR. I'm convinced you're a troll at this point, if so good work you got me.

Originally posted by dadudemon



If Spidey stays out of range, he loses by default: not fighting is the same as giving up because it's a BFR, bro.

So if Cyclops keeps his distance while fighting Wolverine he loses by default??

Or if the Flash uses his speed to avoid being hit by Hulk he loses by default?

For the record even close up I doubt Wolverine could touch Spidey. Spidey in fight mode sees everyone else moving in slow motion.

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Who's sock are you, Psychotron? The only reason I haven't banned you is because you're civil, somewhat, and you are active.

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Originally posted by Impediment
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Who's sock are you, Psychotron? The only reason I haven't banned you is because you're civil, somewhat, and you are active.

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I used to have an account here around 2006-2007. I posted mostly on the comic forums.

Spider-Man punches Logan's head off. uhuh

Er, no, not possible.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Er, no, not possible.

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4 pages?
peter stomps

clearly

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So if Cyclops keeps his distance while fighting Wolverine he loses by default??

Originally posted by dadudemon
not fighting is the same as giving up because it's a BFR, bro.

Blasting someone from a distance is DEFINITELY NOT the same as "NOT FIGHTING AND KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE."


Capisce?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Or if the Flash uses his speed to avoid being hit by Hulk he loses by default?

"NOT FIGHTING AND KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE" is not the same as dodging punches.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
For the record even close up I doubt Wolverine could touch Spidey. Spidey in fight mode sees everyone else moving in slow motion.

Close up, Spiderman would be diced to pieces. Spiderman's only hope is to try and fight from a distance. Why? Despite his superhuman reflexes and perception, he still reacted quite humanly most of the time. Like I've pointed out (but Robtard detests), that Flash scene was a fluke and not actually used as a portrayel, again, in the movies. The best we got was dodging those goblin shurikens.


Also, fighting from a distance is not the same thing as
"NOT FIGHTING AND KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE". Just thought I'd make that clear in case you missed it the first couple of times.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Blasting someone from a distance is DEFINITELY NOT the same as "NOT FIGHTING AND KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE."

Did I miss something? Did anybody actually say he's gna keep his distance and "NOT FIGHT"????

No he can keep his distance and chuck huge objects at wolvy, super fast with his webs.. And/Or Blast webbing at him with force (did both those things against Dock Ock).. And/Or tie him up with loads of webbing.






Originally posted by dadudemon
Close up, Spiderman would be diced to pieces. Spiderman's only hope is to try and fight from a distance. Why? Despite his superhuman reflexes and perception, he still reacted quite humanly most of the time. Like I've pointed out (but Robtard detests), that Flash scene was a fluke and not actually used as a portrayel, again, in the movies. The best we got was dodging those goblin shurikens.




Wolverine doesn't have the speed to slice up spidey..

We were shown things moving in slow motion to him at least twice. Once against Flash, and second against Green Goblin when he fired those darts at him.

Plus remember when Jameson turned away for a second in Spidey 2, and the Spidey costume was gone?? Wolverine is no where near as fast. Not to mention how incredibly fast Spidey swings about.

Plus if you remember in X2 Wolverine wrestles with one soldier. Just one. He had to stab him in the end because he couldn't physically over power him. That proves in terms of strength Movie Wolverine is no greater than a Strong human.

He's no match at all for Spidey.

And since Your ignoring Spidey's several speed feats(while Wolverine has none) there's not much point in debating you. Stop ignoring feats and we can have a debate.

Movie Spidey resembled the Comic version.

Whilst Logan is nothing! compared to his.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
4 pages?
peter stomps

clearly


lets hope this doesn't last too much longer..

Originally posted by the ninjak
Movie Spidey resembled the Comic version.

Whilst Logan is nothing! compared to his.

i'm hoping logan's sequel set in japan will closely resemble his comic book prowess

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I'm hoping logan's sequel set in japan will closely resemble his comic book prowess

I've had this conversation with a hundred people and we always came to the same conclusion that as long as FOX has the rights to the Xmen franchise we will never see a Wolverine movie where he has the same feats even close to the comic counterparts.

I'm talkin a Logan that flies into his enemies with Berserker Rage. Saliva spewing from his mouth, arms flailing like fans. His strength allowing him to launch himself at least 10 metres while tearing everything apart.

And if FOX is too scared to make a gory movie then they can just show him doing his stuff like the old Samurai flicks, Logan twirling through heaps of opponents while their guns fall apart and they just curl up and die.

It won't be hard to make a decent Wolverine movie. As long as they show him as the beast he truly is and his charming personality.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I've had this conversation with a hundred people and we always came to the same conclusion that as long as FOX has the rights to the Xmen franchise we will never see a Wolverine movie where he has the same feats even close to the comic counterparts.

I'm talkin a Logan that flies into his enemies with Berserker Rage. Saliva spewing from his mouth, arms flailing like fans. His strength allowing him to launch himself at least 10 metres while tearing everything apart.

And if FOX is too scared to make a gory movie then they can just show him doing his stuff like the old Samurai flicks, Logan twirling through heaps of opponents while their guns fall apart and they just curl up and die.

It won't be hard to make a decent Wolverine movie. As long as they show him as the beast he truly is and his charming personality.

i agree.. wolverine should be made the right way