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Roronoa Zoro

vs.

Rock Lee
Might Guy
A

Fight takes place where the Chunnin exams did.
A has both arms for this fight
This is post-timeskip Zoro.
Who wins?

Lee dies first, easily, and then Zoro kills both without much effort.

Afternoon Tiger is the team's only shot, and it probably is not enough.

Zoro was able to stay standing after taking the Ursa Shock.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Zoro was able to stay standing after taking the Ursa Shock.

But in lousy shape, and Afternoon Tiger had a bigger blast and was more directed.

If Guy opens with an Afternoon Tiger, then Zoro's pretty screwed, it'll heavily wound him and A and Lee can then mop him up.


Zoro's slashes are powerful and he's highly skilled, but he doesn't have a speed edge here.

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Originally posted by Q99
But in lousy shape, and Afternoon Tiger had a bigger blast and was more directed.

If Guy opens with an Afternoon Tiger, then Zoro's pretty screwed, it'll heavily wound him and A and Lee can then mop him up.


Zoro's slashes are powerful and he's highly skilled, but he doesn't have a speed edge here. It most certainly did not, and Zoro was nearly in the middle of the Ursa Shock when it occurred. The Ursa Shock enveloped the island and more.

Only no, it really will not. Zoro took the Ursa Shock and was standing. And even though he was already fatigued and injured from fighting Ryuuma and Oars (Taking hits from Oars as well), he then withstood the pain of Luffy, projected into him by Kuma.

Zoro can take their best attacks, and dish out far stronger attacks as well. To come in range of his sword is suicidal, which is bad for the team, between the three they have a single ranged attack that can only be used once.

No, he most certainly does.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nikyu.gif

I am too lazy to find the manga page, but this happens there too. While speed of light is probably hyberbole, Kuma's attacks are still very fast, able to push at speeds enabling him to send people thousands of miles away in seconds. He can dodge bullets, and has been doing so early in the series, and kept up with Kaku's Soru.

It's shockwave went out pretty far, but it's direct area of effect was relatively limited, there were plenty of trees left standing and mook pirate fairly near the blast were ok.

While on the other hand, Tiger made a visible blast bigger than the island, with very large tidal waves that even at a distance damaged stone spikes on the island.

Side-by-side, Tiger wins.



Naruto has stuff like that too. Most obviously, Morning Peacock actually has a much higher attack rate.


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Comparing Naruto feats and One Piece ones side-by-side, Naruto feats can compete pretty darn well. OP does have advantages- I'm sure Kuma could do more than one Ursa Shock, while Guy has one Tiger in the tank and that's it for example, but higher end Naruto stuff isn't given enough credit.

Originally posted by Q99
It's shockwave went out pretty far, but it's direct area of effect was relatively limited, there were plenty of trees left standing and mook pirate fairly near the blast were ok.

While on the other hand, Tiger made a visible blast bigger than the island, with very large tidal waves that even at a distance damaged stone spikes on the island.

Side-by-side, Tiger wins.

Naruto has stuff like that too. Most obviously, Morning Peacock actually has a much higher attack rate.


Comparing Naruto feats and One Piece ones side-by-side, Naruto feats can compete pretty darn well. OP does have advantages- I'm sure Kuma could do more than one Ursa Shock, while Guy has one Tiger in the tank and that's it for example, but higher end Naruto stuff isn't given enough credit. No.

http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-484.html?t=631&n=18
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=2
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=3
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=4
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=5
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=6
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=7
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=8
http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-485.html?t=631&n=9

Everything we can see on the island is destroyed, including the enormous mast of Thriller Bark. Zoro not only survived, but he had enough strength to actually cut Kuma. Zoro is much too durable for this team.

Yeah man it's way bigger than the island. That's why Naruto and friends, who were on the island, could see the blast in the distance, from the island. And why we can clearly see trees from the island to the right, huh?



Naruto has no feat like that. And no, Morning Peacock really doesn't, and the "feathers" don't move a fraction as fast either. I actually dug up the manga version of the feat.

http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-484.html?t=631&n=12

As we can clearly see, the 100 Paws are pretty much sent nigh-instantaneously at Zoro, as evidenced by several Paws being right next to eachother. Zoro dodged them while moving forward towards Kuma.

Oh, and you seem to be assuming Kuma is not particularly fast on his own. I apologise if I am wrong, but since this little speed feat was in the same chapter, figured I would post it.

http://www.7manga.com/online_manga/1002-484.html?t=631&n=9

Kuma effortlessly reacts to and deflects Zoro's 36 Pound Cannon.

The Naruto feats really do not. Whitebeard is far stronger than anyone in Naruto, as is Enel, the Admirals, etc. Enel or Whitebeard in particular could casually destroy any Hidden Village by themselves, and could do it without them even knowing who was attacking them.

Luffy was capable of one-shotting the Kraken underwater, a beast that could hold the Kyuubi in its mouth.

Zoro and Sanji are now able to one-shot Pacifistas before they can react. Zoro also effortlessly took out Hordy Jones, himself a strong Fishman, underwater and with one sword.

And the speed difference is huge.

One Piece is undeniably superior. Now, I won't deny that the verse is underrated in some points, but it is thought of as weaker than One Piece, because it is.