Nova Prime vs Ironman/Steel

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carver9
Could Nova take out these two?

Q99
Yea, I think he could.

Gecko4lif
Aegis steel?

Q99
No, not Aegis.

iceman24567
Nova smashes them into crapmetal

rotiart
Steel... To me... Isnt really worthy of being on iron mans level... Much less nova primes

Harbinger
Nova stomps.

Blair Wind
What exactly would Nova do to Iron-man?

I'm not asking because I think Iron-man wins, I'm just genuinely
asking because I do not know the character well enough. From the little I've seen, I don't see a reason why Iron-man couldn't counter him. He's known for being a top dog who can hang with those often considered more powerful, so someone please enlighten me on Nova smile

Q99
Originally posted by Blair Wind
What exactly would Nova do to Iron-man?

I'm not asking because I think Iron-man wins, I'm just genuinely
asking because I do not know the character well enough. From the little I've seen, I don't see a reason why Iron-man couldn't counter him. He's known for being a top dog who can hang with those often considered more powerful, so someone please enlighten me on Nova smile

He's fast, strong, maneuverable, has very powerful energy blasts, gravity control, and some other stuff.

Toughness-wise, his reaction to Moonstone, Venom, Radioactive Man, and Penance all wailing on him with their best shots was to... read them their rights, because he was out of their league.



Iron Man can hang with those more powerful, but Nova's skilled with his much greater power.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind
What exactly would Nova do to Iron-man?

I'm not asking because I think Iron-man wins, I'm just genuinely
asking because I do not know the character well enough. From the little I've seen, I don't see a reason why Iron-man couldn't counter him. He's known for being a top dog who can hang with those often considered more powerful, so someone please enlighten me on Nova smile

Tony himself knows and respects the kind of power Nova has.

http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Novav401-page23.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/Novav402-page10.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/Novav402-page11.jpg

This may even be a non-fight. I doubt Tony will have the ability to prevent Worldmind from outright hacking his armor.

Hacks into a planet's database to save civilians.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Nova13_pg10.jpg

Overrides an alien starship.
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/?action=view&current=005.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/008.jpg

Easily overrides Project Pegasus security systems then takes control of cyborg weaponry.
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Nova_18_020.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Nova_18_021.jpg
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Nova_18_024.jpg

dmills
Originally posted by Blair Wind
What exactly would Nova do to Iron-man?

I'm not asking because I think Iron-man wins, I'm just genuinely
asking because I do not know the character well enough. From the little I've seen, I don't see a reason why Iron-man couldn't counter him. He's known for being a top dog who can hang with those often considered more powerful, so someone please enlighten me on Nova smile

Mostly this is just flat out a bad match up for Tony. He's physically outclassed in every category and tech wise "bleeding edge" would be akin to a battery made from a lemon and a few pieces of copper compared to Xandarian tech.

So in a nutshell, Nova is what Tony would be in a few millennia.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by dmills
Mostly this is just flat out a bad match up for Tony. He's physically outclassed in every category and tech wise "bleeding edge" would be akin to a battery made from a lemon and a few pieces of copper compared to Xandarian tech.

So in a nutshell, Nova is what Tony would be in a few millennia.


Ooh.. Them is some fightin words

dmills
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ooh.. Them is some fightin words

Truth hurts laughing out loud

Jk. Looking at my statement it sounds worse then I meant it to. But if you do a technical capability comparison that's pretty much what it boils down to. Nova's tech is vastly superior.

iceman24567
Originally posted by dmills
Mostly this is just flat out a bad match up for Tony. He's physically outclassed in every category and tech wise "bleeding edge" would be akin to a battery made from a lemon and a few pieces of copper compared to Xandarian tech.

So in a nutshell, Nova is what Tony would be in a few millennia. Well to be honest Tonys tech is dirt in comparison but he constantly updates his shit and they do get noticeably better

dmills
Originally posted by iceman24567
Well to be honest Tonys tech is dirt in comparison but he constantly updates his shit and they do get noticeably better

Cool. At that rate he'll catch up to Rich in a few centuries lol.

iceman24567
Originally posted by dmills
Cool. At that rate he'll catch up to Rich in a few centuries lol. Well as far as raw power and depth goes yeah but versatility and whatnot Stark isn't far off imo

dmills
Originally posted by iceman24567
Well as far as raw power and depth goes yeah but versatility and whatnot Stark isn't far off imo

I'm not sure what you mean by versatility in this instance. I'm talking specifically about technological advancement.

iceman24567
Originally posted by dmills
I'm not sure what you mean by versatility in this instance. I'm talking specifically about technological advancement. So am i Starks armor has alot of the generic abilities Nova has to a dumbed down level of course and as far as straight POWER Stark is blown out of the water

753
nova would stomp

dmills
Originally posted by iceman24567
So am i Starks armor has alot of the generic abilities Nova has to a dumbed down level of course and as far as straight POWER Stark is blown out of the water

Well then what the hell are we in dispute about you chucklehead? laughing out loud

Power Cosmic II
nova with ease.

Mindset
What makes you say Xanadarian tech is way above Stark's? Unless you think it is also way above Doom and Reed tech, which it isn't, then you are wrong.

dmills
Originally posted by Mindset
What makes you say Xanadarian tech is way above Stark's? Unless you think it is also way above Doom and Reed tech, which it isn't, then you are wrong.
Lulz. Just had to find a way to get Doom involved. But yes its far above Tony's tech. Especially in terms of power sources.

celeyhyga17
I think Worldmind is far enough from Tony's tech that it will be able to hack into his armor.

Mindset
Originally posted by dmills
Lulz. Just had to find a way to get Doom involved. But yes its far above Tony's tech. Especially in terms of power sources. Well his suit has been matched up against Doom's many times.

So Xanadarian tech >>> Doom and Reed tech?

Blair Wind
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Tony himself knows and respects the kind of power Nova has.

http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Novav401-page23.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/Novav402-page10.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/Novav402-page11.jpg

This may even be a non-fight. I doubt Tony will have the ability to prevent Worldmind from outright hacking his armor.

Hacks into a planet's database to save civilians.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Nova13_pg10.jpg

Overrides an alien starship.
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/?action=view&current=005.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Nova/008.jpg

Easily overrides Project Pegasus security systems then takes control of cyborg weaponry.
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Nova_18_020.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Nova_18_021.jpg
http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/?action=view&current=Nova_18_024.jpg

Besides Ironman stating the power source was pretty high level - the actual showings you provided do not exactly show anything that Tony himself could not do.

dmills
Originally posted by Mindset
Well his suit has been matched up against Doom's many times.

So Xanadarian tech >>> Doom and Reed tech?

I was just Effin with ya a little bit stick out tongue

As far as Xandarian tech as it relates to Reed, Doom Tony etc. I'll just say this. The original nova prime starship was capable of monitoring several events on earth simultaneously, teleporting people and energy sources instantly over interstellar distances, worm hole/stargate travel etc. Oh and it was 3x the size of Saturn. That was in 1976. Is Stark incorporating that kind of tech in his armor? We'll start there.

I'll post this stuff a bit later.

I won't even go into the worldmind yet.

Mindset
Not that impressed.

Worldmind is way ahead of a celestial killing gun, a device that can steal PC, or destroyer armor.

I think not.

dmills
Originally posted by Mindset
Not that impressed.

Worldmind is way ahead of a celestial killing gun, a device that can steal PC, or destroyer armor.
I think not.

All examples of swag jacking. Something Doom and Reed excel at lulz.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Besides Ironman stating the power source was pretty high level - the actual showings you provided do not exactly show anything that Tony himself could not do.

Yeah but how well can he defend from hacking?

dmills
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Besides Ironman stating the power source was pretty high level - the actual showings you provided do not exactly show anything that Tony himself could not do.

We're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. How about we start with the basics and then work our way up from there? Let's start with a few hypothetical scenarios that are relatively common amongst super heroes.

Let's say that you're in the fight of your life and your armor gets torn up pretty badly. You need power, repairs etc badly. Here's what Nova's tech can do;

"My pants are talking to me"
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644971889.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644985152.jpg

Here's an "older" model of armor -like new after a page-

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311645128722.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311645139286.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311645151274.jpg

Ok so there's what Nova's suit can do. What's Tony do? Maybe he can fly in a new suit.

Sometimes heroes find themselves teaming up with another hero/heroes in a tense combat situation. Tactical communications are key in such scenarios. Sometimes the action gets so hectic that you may not even have time to verbally disperse info. Here's what's Nova's tech can do;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644834687.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644850570.jpg

Hell sometimes heroes find themselves to phucked up to do anything, let alone tell people what's wrong. Good thing Nova's tech gives him a solution;

"emphatic link"
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311646578272.jpg

If the hero is REALLY phucked up he may have to call for back up fast. Or worse yet, call on a completely random stranger to help;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311646578272.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311646600532.jpg

I'm sure that Tony can call Jim Rhodes. Maybe even dial up Pepper.

Sometimes a hero may find himself deep into enemy territory. In that case the ability to scramble enemy communications could prove vital. Especially if said enemies are bio organic creatures. Or millions of big ass bugs.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644752861.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311644772714.jpg


That about covers the basic stuff. I'll await a detailed response, and then we'll move on to some more moderately complicated stuff.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Besides Ironman stating the power source was pretty high level - the actual showings you provided do not exactly show anything that Tony himself could not do.


btw can I see some scans of something equivalent?

cdtm
Hulk loses.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by cdtm
Hulk loses.


Pshh... I been saying that all along...

stick out tongue

Mindset
Originally posted by dmills
All examples of swag jacking. Something Doom and Reed excel at lulz. I doubt Worldmind could even outsmart David Lightman.

dmills
Originally posted by Mindset
I doubt Worldmind could even outsmart David Lightman.

Holy shyte, a war games reference?! You're showing your age with that one stick out tongue

Mindset
Lol, wasn't actually born when it came out.

dmills
Originally posted by Mindset
Lol, wasn't actually born when it came out. laughing out loud bullshyte!

I was. But I was only 3 or 4 when it came out. I discovered it later. Same with Tron and Bladerunner. You know, those geek films lol.

celeyhyga17
Yooo dmills... u a grandpa..

dmills
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yooo dmills... u a grandpa..

laughing

Mindset
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yooo dmills... u a grandpa.. Originally posted by dmills
laughing

dmills
Oh boy here we go lol.

"Id"
Lets see Nova take on Tony with this suit. peaches

http://i56.tinypic.com/30bpnwo.jpg

Mindset
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shit.

dmills
Lulz

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by "Id"
Lets see Nova take on Tony with this suit. peaches

http://i56.tinypic.com/30bpnwo.jpg

Lol. What's that going to do? That looks as impressive as his King Thor buster and Hulk buster. Well looks impressive, but likely not combat effective.

the ninjak
Is that what Tony's making to fight the Worthy?

Look's like Tony's managed to make a suit that Doom needed a constant supply of Asgardian slaves to power.

Tony's rising fast!

"Id"
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Lol. What's that going to do? That looks as impressive as his King Thor buster and Hulk buster. Well looks impressive, but likely not combat effective.

Thats the Nova Buster.

dmills
laughing out loud So Stark gets time to prep and experiment with various suits now? Yeah we're about done here.

"Id"
On a serious note, Iron Man can put up a fight for as long as the suit stays powered.

I dont know dick about Steel.

dmills
^^^ laughing out loud Yeah Steel was completely looked over here lol!

carver9
Steel had a pretty good showing against Doomsday.

Blair Wind
I don't have access to my personal files - on another computer - so I raided his respect thread. They don't have as much as I do, but enough for you to get the point.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
btw can I see some scans of something equivalent?

Hacking scans? Sure:

How about hacking and corrupting Doom's personal computer system. We know jack about the people Nova hacked, but we can all attest to the fact that Doom >>>>> all of them:
http://imageshack.us/f/830/tonydoomhack1.jpg/

Pre-Extremis hacking the entire Kree's Militia Communications Network:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space4.jpg

He can hack Ultimo - which is Pre-Extremis btw:
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo2no4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo3ba4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/168/imultimo4pm1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/514/imultimo5dv5.jpg/

Now that he is Post-Extremis he has access to every machine, computer, and energy source in the world:
http://imageshack.us/f/364/imextremis1on0.jpg/

He's hacked Sentry's brain (Clok)
http://imageshack.us/f/242/invincibleironmanv4011pya8.jpg/

Remote hack Death's Head guards without his armor
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyvsreed1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyextremis.jpg

He's hacked entire databases, Washington's computer networks, alien technology, nanobots. Machines are all the same. Big or little; Planet Eaters or Nanobots. And wherever they are - Iron Man is also:
http://imageshack.us/f/389/imex7qd7.jpg/

Originally posted by dmills
We're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. How about we start with the basics and then work our way up from there? Let's start with a few hypothetical scenarios that are relatively common amongst super heroes.

These are the most random "common" scenarios I've ever heard of. Repairs, communications, calling on the calvary, and jamming communications? Spiderman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Sentry, and most anyone else would have been screwed in these scenarios. Good thing 'ol shellhead is known for being prepared.



Cool story bro. Ironman's armor gets atomized by Scarlet Witch's magic and he re-manifests it

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5278/imregen1.th.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3686/imregen2.th.jpg http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2927/imregen3.th.jpg

And just in case you were wondering what he did after that:

He then encases Apocalypse in a force-field against his will... With ease:

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/imregen3.jpg/
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/imff1.jpg/
http://img828.imageshack.us/i/imff2.jpg/

During the short time in which Tony had Apoc imprisoned, he was able to scan every single molecule and particle on him:

http://img535.imageshack.us/i/imff3.jpg/


The Bleeding Edge armor = win



Tony doesn't need no sentimental empathetic link. He just auto pilots his armor:
http://imageshack.us/f/294/tacticalcomputerfj4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/397/imauto1rl2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/79/imauto1qy5.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/56/imauto2wc6.jpg/




Pff. If Tony needs a cavalry - he goes with what he trusts. How about his entire armory?
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4536/ironmanarmors.th.png



If I really have to show scans of Iron Man jamming communications, you don't know the character at all.

However, what you just showed was less jamming/scrambling enemy communications than ordering them to comply to something. In this arc there is a parasite living in Las Vegas that is known as a world eater. Ultimately, the Ablative Armor was used to defend against the parasitical alien life form which infected organisms and altered them to suit its needs. For optimal efficiency, the tiles were "loaded" with specialized nanobots which would turn the alien's biology against itself:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative5.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative6.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative7.jpg




Well, since I know it will be mentioned at some point - because all I ever really hear about Nova are his grav powers, I'd like to point out that Iron-man absolutely demolished Graviton. This is especially cool, since Graviton just owned the Avengers like babies. You know Graviton? Guy who held the entire world at bay with his powers, was holding literally every hero on Earth in the air, while shifting continents and re-mapping the entire world in his image?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/738/thunderbolts57stormclou.th.jpg

And Iron-Man is now beyond him:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3769/imba3nr3.th.jpghttp://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7219/88381267sa2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4084/27519428ih2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5460/26150188gm1.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4273/60856723np7.th.jpg

I've yet to ever be impressed by Nova. Iron-man may be slightly lower in overall power but his sheer versatility, intelligence, and ability to adapt to any situation allows him to constantly beat his "betters". He's KO'd Terrax and Silver Surfer, one-shot the Hulk, stolen Power Cosmic, absorbed Thor's magical lightning, owned Graviton, taken out Count Nefaria, etc. I've yet to see anything presented to make me think Nova might win.

carver9
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I don't have access to my personal files - on another computer - so I raided his respect thread. They don't have as much as I do, but enough for you to get the point.



Hacking scans? Sure:

How about hacking and corrupting Doom's personal computer system. We know jack about the people Nova hacked, but we can all attyest to the fact that Doom >>>>> all of them:
http://imageshack.us/f/830/tonydoomhack1.jpg/

Pre-Extremis hacking the entire Kree's Militia Communications Network:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space4.jpg

He can hack Ultimo - which is Pre-Extremis btw:
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo2no4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo3ba4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/168/imultimo4pm1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/514/imultimo5dv5.jpg/

Now that he is Post-Extremis he has access to every machine, computer, and energy source in the world:
http://imageshack.us/f/364/imextremis1on0.jpg/

He's hacked Sentry's brain (Clok)
http://imageshack.us/f/242/invincibleironmanv4011pya8.jpg/

Remote hack Death's Head guards without his armor
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyvsreed1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyextremis.jpg

He's hacked entire databases, Washington's computer networks, alien technology, nanobots. Machines are all the same. Big or little; Planet Eaters or Nanobots. And wherever they are - Iron Man is also:
http://imageshack.us/f/389/imex7qd7.jpg/



These are the most random "common" scenarios I've ever heard of. Repairs, communications, calling on the calvary, and jamming communications? Spiderman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Sentry, and most anyone else would have been screwed in these scenarios. Good thing 'ol shellhead is known for being prepared.



Cool story bro. Ironman's armor gets atomized by Scarlet Witch's magic and he re-manifests it

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5278/imregen1.th.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3686/imregen2.th.jpg http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2927/imregen3.th.jpg

And just in case you were wondering what he did after that:

He then encases Apocalypse in a force-field against his will... With ease:

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/imregen3.jpg/
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/imff1.jpg/
http://img828.imageshack.us/i/imff2.jpg/

During the short time in which Tony had Apoc imprisoned, he was able to scan every single molecule and particle on him:

http://img535.imageshack.us/i/imff3.jpg/


The Bleeding Edge armor = win



Tony doesn't need no sentimental empathetic link. He just auto pilots his armor:
http://imageshack.us/f/294/tacticalcomputerfj4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/397/imauto1rl2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/79/imauto1qy5.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/56/imauto2wc6.jpg/




Pff. If Tony needs a cavalry - he goes with what he trusts. How about his entire armory?
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4536/ironmanarmors.th.png



If I really have to show scans of Iron Man jamming communications, you don't know the character at all.

However, what you just showed was less jamming/scrambling enemy communications than ordering them to comply to something. In this arc there is a parasite living in Las Vegas that is known as a world eater. Ultimately, the Ablative Armor was used to defend against the parasitical alien life form which infected organisms and altered them to suit its needs. For optimal efficiency, the tiles were "loaded" with specialized nanobots which would turn the alien's biology against itself:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative5.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative6.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative7.jpg




Well, since I know it will be mentioned at some point - because all I ever really hear about Nova are his grav powers, I'd like to point out that Iron-man absolutely demolished Graviton. This is especially cool, since Graviton just owned the Avengers like babies. You know Graviton? Guy who held the entire world at bay with his powers, was holding literally every hero on Earth in the air, while shifting continents and re-mapping the entire world in his image?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/738/thunderbolts57stormclou.th.jpg

And Iron-Man is now beyond him:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3769/imba3nr3.th.jpghttp://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7219/88381267sa2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4084/27519428ih2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5460/26150188gm1.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4273/60856723np7.th.jpg

I've yet to ever be impressed by Nova. Iron-man may be slightly lower in overall power but his sheer versatility, intelligence, and ability to adapt to any situation allows him to constantly beat his "betters". He's KO'd Terrax and Silver Surfer, one-shot the Hulk, stolen Power Cosmic, absorbed Thor's magical lightning, owned Graviton, taken out Count Nefaria, etc. I've yet to see anything presented to make me think Nova might win.

Great post.

carver9
By the way, Ironman victories are much better and impressive.

dmills
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I don't have access to my personal files - on another computer - so I raided his respect thread. They don't have as much as I do, but enough for you to get the point.



Hacking scans? Sure:

How about hacking and corrupting Doom's personal computer system. We know jack about the people Nova hacked, but we can all attest to the fact that Doom >>>>> all of them:
http://imageshack.us/f/830/tonydoomhack1.jpg/

Pre-Extremis hacking the entire Kree's Militia Communications Network:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space4.jpg

He can hack Ultimo - which is Pre-Extremis btw:
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo2no4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/111/imultimo3ba4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/168/imultimo4pm1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/514/imultimo5dv5.jpg/

Now that he is Post-Extremis he has access to every machine, computer, and energy source in the world:
http://imageshack.us/f/364/imextremis1on0.jpg/

He's hacked Sentry's brain (Clok)
http://imageshack.us/f/242/invincibleironmanv4011pya8.jpg/

Remote hack Death's Head guards without his armor
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyvsreed1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Iron%20Man/tonyextremis.jpg

He's hacked entire databases, Washington's computer networks, alien technology, nanobots. Machines are all the same. Big or little; Planet Eaters or Nanobots. And wherever they are - Iron Man is also:
http://imageshack.us/f/389/imex7qd7.jpg/



These are the most random "common" scenarios I've ever heard of. Repairs, communications, calling on the calvary, and jamming communications? Spiderman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Sentry, and most anyone else would have been screwed in these scenarios. Good thing 'ol shellhead is known for being prepared.



Cool story bro. Ironman's armor gets atomized by Scarlet Witch's magic and he re-manifests it

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5278/imregen1.th.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3686/imregen2.th.jpg http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2927/imregen3.th.jpg

And just in case you were wondering what he did after that:

He then encases Apocalypse in a force-field against his will... With ease:

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/imregen3.jpg/
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/imff1.jpg/
http://img828.imageshack.us/i/imff2.jpg/

During the short time in which Tony had Apoc imprisoned, he was able to scan every single molecule and particle on him:

http://img535.imageshack.us/i/imff3.jpg/


The Bleeding Edge armor = win



Tony doesn't need no sentimental empathetic link. He just auto pilots his armor:
http://imageshack.us/f/294/tacticalcomputerfj4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/397/imauto1rl2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/79/imauto1qy5.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/56/imauto2wc6.jpg/




Pff. If Tony needs a cavalry - he goes with what he trusts. How about his entire armory?
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4536/ironmanarmors.th.png



If I really have to show scans of Iron Man jamming communications, you don't know the character at all.

However, what you just showed was less jamming/scrambling enemy communications than ordering them to comply to something. In this arc there is a parasite living in Las Vegas that is known as a world eater. Ultimately, the Ablative Armor was used to defend against the parasitical alien life form which infected organisms and altered them to suit its needs. For optimal efficiency, the tiles were "loaded" with specialized nanobots which would turn the alien's biology against itself:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/im_ablative5.jpg
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Well, since I know it will be mentioned at some point - because all I ever really hear about Nova are his grav powers, I'd like to point out that Iron-man absolutely demolished Graviton. This is especially cool, since Graviton just owned the Avengers like babies. You know Graviton? Guy who held the entire world at bay with his powers, was holding literally every hero on Earth in the air, while shifting continents and re-mapping the entire world in his image?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/738/thunderbolts57stormclou.th.jpg

And Iron-Man is now beyond him:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3769/imba3nr3.th.jpghttp://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7219/88381267sa2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4084/27519428ih2.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5460/26150188gm1.th.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4273/60856723np7.th.jpg

I've yet to ever be impressed by Nova. Iron-man may be slightly lower in overall power but his sheer versatility, intelligence, and ability to adapt to any situation allows him to constantly beat his "betters". He's KO'd Terrax and Silver Surfer, one-shot the Hulk, stolen Power Cosmic, absorbed Thor's magical lightning, owned Graviton, taken out Count Nefaria, etc. I've yet to see anything presented to make me think Nova might win.


Lulz. I'm enjoying this warm up. You kinda mixed things up by adding combat feats, but good response nonetheless. I'm working right now so ill address the bulk of your post later.

In the meantime two things.

The only thing Nova and Graviton have in common is grav manip. Outside of that they're two different people with their own strengths and weaknesses. And I can assure you that the shyte Tony pulled on Graviton would promptly get his ass into trouble against Nova. Furthermore aren't those events unrelated? Graviton holding the heroes of earth captive during Thunderbolts happened prior to the scans you just posted IIRC.

As far as you never being impressed with Nova, hell man to each his own. I'm impressed as hell by Iron Man and have said in the past that in terms of showings vs upper tiers I'd give Tony a clear advantage over Rider, while Rider is portrayed as operating on a higher level of power and having a superior powerset.

We'll continue this later.

dmills
Originally posted by carver9
Great post. Originally posted by carver9
By the way, Ironman victories are much better and impressive.

Stop cheerleading.

JakeTheBank
I'm interested to see this go down in a battlezone.

iceman24567
Originally posted by carver9
By the way, Ironman victories are much better and impressive. Lol you gotta be joking....

carver9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Lol you gotta be joking....

No, I'm like...serious cuz.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I don't have access to my personal files - on another computer - so I raided his respect thread. They don't have as much as I do, but enough for you to get the point.

Pre-Extremis hacking the entire Kree's Militia Communications Network:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/im_space4.jpg



This was something I was interested in since it's against advanced alien tech. The type that Nova easily does "remote" hacking to without the use of hardware. Worldmind would just straight up jack ure shiet. stick out tongue

And ure telling me this is not impressive? His hacking into Annihilus's hive mind was so crippling that the wave is forced to retreat! You gotta give him props for that...
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page21.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page22.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page23.jpg

753
nova crushes IM

dmills
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm interested to see this go down in a battlezone.

I would do that foshizzle. thumb up

Technical capabilities
Power level
Powerset
Most impressive wins.

celeyhyga17
@BlairWind
U were talking about how he punked Gravition who was punking the Avengers?

How bout Nova flat out punking a really evil alternate reality Avengers team and saving the GotG in the process? They all get swatted with ease when a no messing around Nova starts cutting loose!!! Mind you this "Revengers" team had some powerful members that included evil versions of Thor, Quasar, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Giant Man, and Captain America.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/ThanImp_6_PeterWatts_CPS_013.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/ThanImp_6_PeterWatts_CPS_014.jpg
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dmills
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
@BlairWind
U were talking about how he punked Gravition who was punking the Avengers?

How bout Nova flat out punking a really evil alternate reality Avengers team and saving the GotG in the process? They all get swatted with ease when a no messing around Nova starts cutting loose!!! Mind you this "Revengers" team had some powerful members that included evil versions of Thor, Quasar, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Giant Man, and Captain America.

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/ThanImp_6_PeterWatts_CPS_013.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/ThanImp_6_PeterWatts_CPS_014.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/ThanImp_6_PeterWatts_CPS_015.jpg

Show him Blastaar with the ccc didn't want any parts of Nova Prime

Blair Wind
Originally posted by celeyhyga17 This was something I was interested in since it's against advanced alien tech. The type that Nova easily does "remote" hacking to without the use of hardware. Worldmind would just straight up jack ure shiet. stick out tongue

Yes that scan was Pre-Extremis. He has done remote hacking in the past, but now post Extremis ALL he does is remote hacking.




Eh. It wasn't that his hacking was so crippling. He hacked into his mind and using it he gave the order to destroy themselves. And being that they all instantly obeyed to Annihilus, they had to comply.

Either way, that's more a case of a form of telepathy than actual hacking. Both of which would not happen with Iron-Man. See, Tony has a history of dealing well with physics. He's been the only person on earth not mind raped by Mentallo - actually beat him in the cyber-astral plane - all because of some tech in his watch. Since I don't have those scans on hand, however, this will do:

When Tony was making plans to essentially delete the contents of his brain in order to prevent Osborn from obtaining his 'memories', one of his assistants asked why he didn't just recruit a psychic to erase those particular 'memories' from his mind. Tony replied with...

"Phychics can't read a hard drive" (3rd scan):

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_im_tpimmune1.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_im_tpimmune2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_im_tpimmune3.jpg




Alternate realities don't count for anything. It's not canon for the real Iron-Man and therefore has no real account on what might happen in the 616 universe.

Originally posted by dmills
Lulz. I'm enjoying this warm up. You kinda mixed things up by adding combat feats, but good response nonetheless.

Well, you kind of picked things that only Nova might be good at. Just because they have certain little oddities does not a great hero make. Like I said before, with the scenarios you used, a lot of heroes would be out of a job if that is what was expected of them.



Prove it. I'm not unreasonable, I've just yet to see anyone provide any kind of evidence to suggest he would beat Iron Man. All I hear is "he stomps". Someone give me reason to believe that.



So? I showed you a scan where Graviton had the world at his fingertips. Then I showed you a later scan proving that Iron Man can gone beyond that. The two events do not need to be connected to prove that Tony has evolved past him.

dmills
Originally posted by Blair Wind





Eh. It wasn't that his hacking was so crippling. He hacked into his mind and using it he gave the order to destroy themselves. And being that they all instantly obeyed to Annihilus, they had to comply.

Either way, that's more a case of a form of telepathy than actual hacking.

HUH? You're reaching here. And lowballing. Either way we're debating technical capabilities and that was an example of "hacking" the mind of an organic being at the bio electric/chemical level.




But they fit the context of this debate, that's why I used them. Feats that showcased the use of advanced technology. I figured Tony would have some kind of equivalent and you provided some so what's the problem?



Prove what? That the method used to defeat Graviton would be a bad strategy against Rider?

Well for one there's his own personal durability. He has no heat weakness as he has been relatively unscathed from super heated magma to enduring the heat of a neutron star, the latter being orders of magnitude hotter then the sun.

Then there is the issue of his shields which can vary in strength from standard to all but impenetrable.

Lastly there's the energy absorption and manipulation factor.



So your conclusion is a glaring non sequitur, ergo it for not follow. By your reasoning Ironman > all the heroes on marvel earth since you used some of Graviton's highest showings of power as the crux of your argument. If I show scans of Nefaria smashing on teams of Avengers and then show a later scan from an entirely different confrontation that has Wolverine cutting him to shreds, does that mean that Logan has "evolved" past Nefaria as well? Not to mention the questions like; was it pis? Was Graviton utilizing the same amount of power in the latter encounter as he did in the former? Did he job?


I don't think I've said Nova would stomp. My take has always been that this is just a flat out bad match up for Tony. In a a nutshell a best case scenario for Tony is that he's fighting a guy with all of his strengths but none of his weaknesses. At worst he's fighting a guy with significantly amplified levels of Tony's strengths and none of his weaknesses. Either way he loses here.


Requested edit.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Nova Prime isn't beating Iron Man easily if he does manage to win. The stance is imho either ignorant or stupid.

I can see Nova managing to win 6-7/10 against Stark but you'd better believe it'd be an amazing fight.

I'm pretty sure we've already had this discussion Dmills, or something similar. Not really sure why you still think -forgive me if I'm wrong, just did a quick skim- Tony giving him a good fight and what not is such a bad thing. Dude held his own against Thor briefly not to long ago. I'll tell you right now, Tony has some impressive feats under his belt, even against Top Tiers and the like.

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nova Prime isn't beating Iron Man easily if he does manage to win. The stance is imho either ignorant or stupid.

I can see Nova managing to win 6-7/10 against Stark but you'd better believe it'd be an amazing fight.

I'm pretty sure we've already had this discussion Dmills, or something similar. Not really sure why you still think -forgive me if I'm wrong, just did a quick skim- Tony giving him a good fight and what not is such a bad thing. Dude held his own against Thor briefly not to long ago. I'll tell you right now, Tony has some impressive feats under his belt, even against Top Tiers and the like.

Nah I didn't say stomp. 6-7/10 hard fights sounds about right and the sole reason I think that is specifically related to the discussion that you and I had. Others say its a stomp, but Blair and I are arguing about who has the better standard tech.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nova Prime isn't beating Iron Man easily if he does manage to win. The stance is imho either ignorant or stupid.

I can see Nova managing to win 6-7/10 against Stark but you'd better believe it'd be an amazing fight.

I'm pretty sure we've already had this discussion Dmills, or something similar. Not really sure why you still think -forgive me if I'm wrong, just did a quick skim- Tony giving him a good fight and what not is such a bad thing. Dude held his own against Thor briefly not to long ago. I'll tell you right now, Tony has some impressive feats under his belt, even against Top Tiers and the like.

Nah, if he's serious he'll stomp Iron Man. It's an amazing fight because Nova holds back. IM does well against a Thor that holds back.

Nova taking out a hoard of Kree Sentries. Letsee IM replicating that.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novavskreesentries.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novastargate.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novastargate1.jpg

Lifting an adult Technarchy and slamming it to the ground.
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Mindset
How powerful or Kree sentries?

He could definitely do the second, as he has the strength and speed.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind

Eh. It wasn't that his hacking was so crippling. He hacked into his mind and using it he gave the order to destroy themselves. And being that they all instantly obeyed to Annihilus, they had to comply.


Give credit where credit is due. Lowballing an extremely difficult feat there. He not only pulled it off, he had to survive an Annihilus that was trying to suck him dry. An Annihilus that just atomized a seasoned herald (Quasar). U are lowballing my friend. Tell me what Tony would have done in that situation. Oh wait that's right, he wouldn't even register as an ant in Annihilus's senses.


Originally posted by Blair Wind

Alternate realities don't count for anything. It's not canon for the real Iron-Man and therefore has no real account on what might happen in the 616 universe.



Again lowballing. One of these alternate reality Avengers (evil Quasar)just gave Nova a heap of trouble in a previous issue during the whole Thanos Imperative story. Worldmind even guaged his power as being a sizeable threat to Nova's safety. Add the fact that Lord Mar-Vell himself called the Revengers his elite force.

All I know is Tony's armor is susceptible to getting hacked by advanced tech. One of Ultron's incarnations was able to control the vaunted Extremis armor or did u forget? That was one of Tony's most embarrasing moments. "Naked Female Iron Man" and all... stick out tongue
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Ultron/Fights/Iron-man%20Ultron/UltronIMOwnsAres.jpg

Then again, he could always just open a stargate right on Tony's grille and let the gravimetric vortex consume Iron Man. Something he's down more than once. wink

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Blair Wind

I've yet to ever be impressed by Nova. Iron-man may be slightly lower in overall power but his sheer versatility, intelligence.....



I guess Tony has this kind of power eh? The stargate was so enormous that it had the capacity to ferry in a whole planet's worth of starships. Let's just say countless. A stargate so powerful that it was felt by Annihilus 2 fukking light years away. And what does he do right after? He gets right back to busting A-wave starships as if he never created an upper magnitude stargate just seconds ago. That slightly more powerful statement u typed had me on the floor loling.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Nova03page15.jpg
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WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Mindset
How powerful or Kree sentries?

He could definitely do the second, as he has the strength and speed.

One Sentry was more than a match for Iron Man and an Avengers team that included Wanda and Wonder Man. IM had a shot at the Kree Sentry and only ripped a small hole in it duel to Wanda's hex assist.

dmills
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
One Sentry was more than a match for Iron Man and an Avengers team that included Wanda and Wonder Man. IM had a shot at the Kree Sentry and only ripped a small hole in it duel to Wanda's hex assist.

They're going to say that it was a weaker armor. Or lowball the Nova feat.

Mindset
Well, was it a weaker armor?

You say that like it wouldn't be a valid point.

753
why is this being argued? prime would crush ironman unless he had onesided prep

Naija boy
Nova prime dominates

Starscream M
Originally posted by Naija boy
Nova prime dominates You're underestimating Iron Man.

Bentley
Originally posted by Starscream M
You're underestimating Iron Man.


Stargate Stark into oblivion. What can Tony do? Pray? biscuits

Starscream M
Originally posted by Bentley
Stargate Stark into oblivion. What can Tony do? Pray? biscuits tony could hack into nova's armor and take control potentially. after all, nova is tech.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Starscream M
tony could hack into nova's armor and take control potentially. after all, nova is tech.


um no..

A less powerful Ultron embarassed Stark tech..

A Phalanx Ultron didnt even attempt to control Worldmind during the final battle. Instead he transferred his consciousness far away into orbit even while Nova Prime was at ground zero right on the battlefield.
That's also a Nova that resisted the techno-organic virus while advanced alien civilizations were falling down like ducks in a shooting gallery...

No. Just no.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Starscream M
tony could hack into nova's armor and take control potentially. after all, nova is tech.


Lol. The world mind has held back the techno virus. Tony isn't hacking wm at all. In fact, wm is an ai of the highest degree while tony's suit is shit compared to it. Nova would beating Tony left and right with giving any commands and wm would **** tony's armor up. It's 2 against Tony and his primative armor.

As for the Sentry, that was an old armor. But he only damaged it with wanda's assist. Was anything that slowed the Sentry down either. With the newest armor he'd be more competitive that's for sure. Nova one shotted them even without using the stargate.

Bentley
Originally posted by Starscream M
tony could hack into nova's armor and take control potentially. after all, nova is tech.


He really can't.


Anything else?

753
the interaction between worldmind and Reed Richards made it clear that the RR considered WM beyond him intellectually

Starscream M
Originally posted by Bentley
He really can't.


Anything else? and you know this how?

carver9
Toni is being lowballed here.

753
Originally posted by Starscream M
and you know this how? reed richards was a groupie arround WM

Starscream M
Originally posted by 753
reed richards was a groupie arround WM reed richards does not have technopathy as stark does

dmills
Damn. This has become a lot more interesting then I thought it would be.

Starscream M
Originally posted by dmills
Damn. This has become a lot more interesting then I thought it would be. how so?

Bentley
Originally posted by Starscream M
and you know this how?


Stark got wtf-hacked by regular Ultron while WM fought the Phallanx virus. That without even considered the countless showings in which the IM armor is shut down by an outside influence, while you can hardly point situations in which Nova was depowered in a similar fashion.

If anyone is hacking people here, it's going to be Nova.

753
Originally posted by Starscream M
reed richards does not have technopathy as stark does thats irrelevant since WM does and he is > RR

Harbinger
Originally posted by dmills
Damn. This has become a lot more interesting then I thought it would be. Only interesting if you know nothing about Nova and the Worldmind (and no, this isn't directed at you).

Nova Prime still stomps. For all of the talk about Tony, I've yet to see anyone argue that Steel isn't anything but a complete non-factor here. Unless you think Tony's capable of taking on Nova solo, going one on one with a legit herald leveler doesn't really help him here.

dmills
Originally posted by Starscream M
tony could hack into nova's armor and take control potentially. after all, nova is tech.

Trust me. It works in Tony's favor not to go messing around with that suit.

Bentley
Originally posted by Harbinger
Only interesting if you know nothing about Nova and the Worldmind (and no, this isn't directed at you).

Nova Prime still stomps. For all of the talk about Tony, I've yet to see anyone argue that Steel isn't anything but a complete non-factor here. Unless you think Tony's capable of taking on Nova solo, going one on one with a legit herald leveler doesn't really help him here.


Steel had Doomsday on the ropes for about a minute. Maybe they could overtax Nova with a team effort.

dmills
Man I haven't read anything on Steel since DoS.

dmills
Let's take it up notch.

WM hacks into Ego the living planet and takes over his bio neural functions. Then begins to restructure its interior to house the Nova corps.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311881417225.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311881428529.jpg
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Explains to Reed how he's using a gravity dampening field to prevent gravitational fallout from Ego's close proximity to Earth. And how he's taken over Ego.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311881852169.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311881863774.jpg

Stoic
Prime for the majority

dmills
Transports thousands of new recruits to Nu-xandar, empowers them, and instantly downloads info into their brains.


http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311883360783.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311883360783.jpg
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http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311883403386.jpg

dmills
And in a few days time, presto. Thousands of regular humans have been transformed into a full on cosmic military/police force of super powered beings, capable of interstellar travel to just about anywhere in the universe within minutes, complete with advanced communications across interstellar distances.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311885495873.jpg
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iceman24567
Originally posted by dmills
And in a few days time, presto. Thousands of regular humans have been transformed into a full on cosmic military/police force of super powered beings, capable of interstellar travel to just about anywhere in the universe within minutes, complete with advanced communications across interstellar distances.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311884789508.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311884805266.jpg So they are just like fodder green lanterns

dmills
Originally posted by iceman24567
So they are just like fodder green lanterns

laughing out loud Even worse fodder then the GL corps!

But the point stands in terms of technical capabilities between Rider/Xandarian tech and Tony.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Harbinger
Only interesting if you know nothing about Nova and the Worldmind (and no, this isn't directed at you).

Nova Prime still stomps. For all of the talk about Tony, I've yet to see anyone argue that Steel isn't anything but a complete non-factor here. Unless you think Tony's capable of taking on Nova solo, going one on one with a legit herald leveler doesn't really help him here.

Dang... Are there that many Iron Man fans? It's almost as if everyone forgot it was a team vs NP.

dmills
The power to siphon energy directly;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_2011-03-30111155.jpg

Or to simply absorb and redirect it:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_NovaV21-Page30.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_NovaV21-Page31.jpg

Siphons dark matter from the sun. Enough to encircle the Earth many times over;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201538166.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201551188.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201565470.jpg

dmills
Slugs it out with The Sphinx.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/2011-07-30204224.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/2011-03-24093744-1.jpg
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dmills
Flies into a Neutron star. Warps its gravity.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1308858454979.jpg
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carver9
My mind has changed. Nova stomps this... He recently destroyed a planet with pure power alone. Toni can't handle that.

dmills
One shots a ship that Klr't wanted no part of. With his fists.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1311456780486.jpg
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Takes a punch from Korg -guy that Ko'd Wonderman- and is mildly annoyed. Let's it be known he could end it at will.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/2011-06-05130001.jpg

dmills
Destroys two dread ships (moon sized) and then one shots a damn flagship (Even larger)

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1312092489133.jpg
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Annihilus was lightyears away saying wtf was that?!

dmills
Anything from team Ironman or are we done here?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by dmills
Anything from team Ironman or are we done here?

overboard much?

stick out tongue

Rage.Of.Olympus
PM Blair.

Like I told you earlier, Nova more than likely has the noticeable edge in space cheese feats but Iron Man makes up for it with good showings against High Heralds.

dmills
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
overboard much?

stick out tongue

Lol...

"Id"
Originally posted by dmills
The power to siphon energy directly;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_2011-03-30111155.jpg

Or to simply absorb and redirect it:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_NovaV21-Page30.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_NovaV21-Page31.jpg

Siphons dark matter from the sun. Enough to encircle the Earth many times over;

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201538166.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201551188.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/1294201565470.jpg


Absorbs Photon, and Redirects it to Thor.
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1407/ironage01pg11copy.jpg

Trapping the Collective in an energy sphere.
http://imageshack.us/f/444/imcoll6bv1.jpg/

"Id"
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
PM Blair.

Like I told you earlier, Nova more than likely has the noticeable edge in space cheese feats but Iron Man makes up for it with good showings against High Heralds. Yeah chances are he can hang Nova, until his armor runs dry. If we keep in mind the following.

He took down an Amped Ulik.
He took down Graviton.
He took down Rulk.
Stood up to Thor.
And seriously damaged The Worthy Grey Gargoyle
.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by "Id"
Yeah chances are he can hang Nova, until his armor runs dry. If we keep in mind the following.

He took down an Amped Ulik.
He took down Graviton.
He took down Rulk.
Stood up to Thor.
And seriously damaged The Worthy Grey Gargoyle
.


Ooh.. I liked that one with the Collective. That thing was a beast.

The Cap Marvel/Photon one is ok. She was holding back which was obvious.

Bentley
I'd like to make the little precision that Red Hulk stopped using his energy absorption when IM faced him and that he didn't quite fought back. Other than that, nobody can deny IM has many good during his amazing run.

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