Tron Legacy (world) vs. Darth Sidious (all sith and jedi)

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quanchi112
This is the Tron Legacy world run by Clu 2. Somehow the jedi/sith from all movies are transported into the off base barren zone. Clu 2 immediately senses their presence and wants to get rid of this imperfection. Kevin Flynn, his son, and his iso agree to help this galactic threat as they view greater than Clu 2. Palpatine aka Darth Sidious and Lord Vader (pre suit) see this as another way to dominate yet another world. The jedi are just out too survive and like Kevin Flynn team up with their hated rivals because the old adage is true better to deal with the devil you know than the one you don't.

Who outschemes who and wins the battle ? Kevin, Clu 2 or Palpatine and Yoda ? The jedi and sith just have their lightsabers and need to take any tron vehicles for transportation or just go by foot. Argue your positions.

the ninjak
I would imagine the Warsies rip the Grid apart.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
I would imagine the Warsies rip the Grid apart. Do you think it's close ?

NemeBro
CLU is invulnerable in the Grid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NemeBro
CLU is invulnerable in the Grid. When is this made clear ?

the ninjak
Originally posted by NemeBro
CLU is invulnerable in the Grid.

I thought he was just smarter than everybody else there.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
I thought he was just smarter than everybody else there. I think I know why he believes this way I just want him to admit it.

the ninjak
Clu aint fighting a choke hold and a Force pushed disc through the chest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
Clu aint fighting a choke hold and a Force pushed disc through the chest. I don't think so either. I do think he can ward off a force choke though tbh ong enough to get back into the fight. But a disc or saber through the body should be him outta commission.

I don't think it will be easy though.

Psychotron
Force users should win.

the ninjak
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think so either. I do think he can ward off a force choke though tbh ong enough to get back into the fight. But a disc or saber through the body should be him outta commission.

I don't think it will be easy though.

Nah. CLU see's Jedi throws disc. Jedi forces disc right back into him.
Major threat gone.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
Nah. CLU see's Jedi throws disc. Jedi forces disc right back into him.
Major threat gone. I think Clu would definitely get out of the way. He seemed well beyond anyone in the grid one on one save Tron. I still see Sidious was winning just not as easily as you do.

the ninjak
But this is an army of Jedi/Sith led by Yoda/Sidious.

CLU and Tron are their only competition.

CLU arrives with men. Men get forced aside. CLU throws a disc. Anakin force chocks him while Yoda sends the disc into his chest. There are many Jedi. Or are there only 4 or 5?

If CLU hides. Team just causes carnage until he has no choice but to intervene.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
But this is an army of Jedi/Sith led by Yoda/Sidious.

CLU and Tron are their only competition.

CLU arrives with men. Men get forced aside. CLU throws a disc. Anakin force chocks him while Yoda sends the disc into his chest. There are many Jedi. Or are there only 4 or 5?

If CLU hides. Team just causes carnage until he has no choice but to intervene. There are lots of programs which aren't all that easily beatable. They also have access to fighter jets, bikes, all of their weaponry.




Clu is a program and his entire forces are programs so I don't think force choking will have an effect on them due to them not needing to breathe. Every jedi from the movies so a lot more 4-5.

Clu and Tron are the elite fighters. The iso also seems quite capable of fighting along with Sam's son.

the ninjak
The force choke wasn't to stop him from breathing but to keep him in the air while the others send something through CLU's stomach.

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
The force choke wasn't to stop him from breathing but to keep him in the air while the others send something through CLU's stomach. I still don't see it working for long enough for anything to happen other than tossing him aside. Clu seems like he'd be a match for all but the strongest of the jedi/sith and even then lose in a close one.

the ninjak
What did he do in the film that gave him any super abilities besides being a really good killer?

quanchi112
Originally posted by the ninjak
What did he do in the film that gave him any super abilities besides being a really good killer? The distance he jumped at the end, the fact he got the better of Tron who worked Flynn's son with complete and utter ease to the point of playing with him. It's obvious he was highly skilled and superhuman to some degree.

NemeBro
Originally posted by quanchi112
When is this made clear ? When Tron takes a Rez Disc to CLU and... Nothing happens. When his little plane is blown up like twice and he is fine.

CLU is essentially a miniature Master Computer, less omnipotent, but also more mobile and active.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NemeBro
When Tron takes a Rez Disc to CLU and... Nothing happens. When his little plane is blown up like twice and he is fine.

CLU is essentially a miniature Master Computer, less omnipotent, but also more mobile and active. I'll have to watch the Tron battle vs. Clu again but I don't recall him ever taking a rez disc to him. He just doesn't die as he's more resistant and Tron himself lives after falling out of the plane and plummets into the water whereas a normal program would have blown up as well. I just think these two are badass compared to the rest of the peons.


So do you personally see Clu as warding off Sidious' attacks and winning ?

NemeBro
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'll have to watch the Tron battle vs. Clu again but I don't recall him ever taking a rez disc to him. He just doesn't die as he's more resistant and Tron himself lives after falling out of the plane and plummets into the water whereas a normal program would have blown up as well. I just think these two are badass compared to the rest of the peons.


So do you personally see Clu as warding off Sidious' attacks and winning ? I don't care whether you remember it or not, it happened, and CLU beat Tron's ass if you remember.

Tron is not confirmed to live or not.

It is directly stated the only way to kill CLU is basically for Kevin Flynn to sacrifice himself to do so.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't care whether you remember it or not, it happened, and CLU beat Tron's ass if you remember.

Tron is not confirmed to live or not.

It is directly stated the only way to kill CLU is basically for Kevin Flynn to sacrifice himself to do so. I just rewatched it and I have no idea where you think he hit Clu with the disc. Clu basically overpowers him while Tron says to run then Clu hits Tron with the disc.

When is that stated ? What's stated is why doesn't Flynn just shut him down and the process would basically kill Flynn so it's a last ditch effort int he case of no other alternative.

quanchi112
Anyone else ?

quanchi112
Clu 2 wins.

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