Batman (Dick Grayson) vs. Batroc Zee Leaper H2H only

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Marvelknight
Fight takes place on roof tops in Brooklyn, NY.

Who takes it?

StiltmanFTW
Batroc kicks the shit out of him, literally.

Bentley
Batroc wins but Grayson makes him work for it.

Marvelknight
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Batroc kicks the shit out of him, literally.

Lol Batroc sure can. So you think Batroc gets the solid majority here? I'm thinking every win in Batroc favor would be hard fought. Grayson could take him (not easily though). I'm leading towards Batroc but I'm not sure.... Grayson is more skilled.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Lol Batroc sure can. So you think Batroc gets the solid majority here? I'm thinking every win in Batroc favor would be hard fought. Grayson could take him (not easily though). I'm leading towards Batroc but I'm not sure.... Grayson is more skilled.

He should be able to get the majority, yes. He gives Rogers trouble and stalemated Fantomex (in one of the most hilarious fights in comics, but still). I'd love to use his showing against Spiderman, Wolverine, Iron Man (iirc), but I'm quite sure it happened in Marvel Adventures, therefore not usable.

BruceSkywalker
Batroc leaps toward Grayson, but due to Grayson's superb gymnastics, leaps out of the way and Batroc falls to his death..

Marvelknight
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He should be able to get the majority, yes. He gives Rogers trouble and stalemated Fantomex (in one of the most hilarious fights in comics, but still). I'd love to use his showing against Spiderman, Wolverine, Iron Man (iirc), but I'm quite sure it happened in Marvel Adventures, therefore not usable.

I love Batroc's fight with Cap in Tales of Suspense #85

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batroc leaps toward Grayson, but due to Grayson's superb gymnastics, leaps out of the way and Batroc falls to his death..

laughing out loud

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I love Batroc's fight with Cap in Tales of Suspense #85



laughing out loud

Is it the one where the narrator says no words can describe their battle?

Marvelknight
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Is it the one where the narrator says no words can describe their battle?

Yeah... And it's so true. I love street levelers because I grew up watching old kung-fu movies and such. Any time you get to see action like that, it's wroth every dime.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah... And it's so true. I love street levelers because I grew up watching old kung-fu movies and such. Any time you get to see action like that, it's wroth every dime.

If only more writers cared that much about fighting scenes...

Marvelknight
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If only more writers cared that much about fighting scenes...

So true...

Marvelknight
Thinking about it more... This is a really cool fight to have on roof tops with these to acrobatic masters of free running. Any thoughts on who the edge in agility goes to? I believe it to be Grayson. But Batroc incorporates acrobatics in his style of fighting as well so it should very interesting...

Prep-Man
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batroc leaps toward Grayson, but due to Grayson's superb gymnastics, leaps out of the way and Batroc falls to his death..

laughing

Batman-Prime
Hmm Hand to Hand. Since Batroc can't use his legs, I ain't see him winning.

Marvelknight
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmm Hand to Hand. Since Batroc can't use his legs, I ain't see him winning.

Lol! Nah, I meant no weapons. Just using their fighting skills to win.

Prep-Man
Hmm, I see Grayson winning on average.

Robin Dc
Grayson.

srankmissingnin
Batroc wins decisively a h2h battle.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I love Batroc's fight with Cap in Tales of Suspense #85



laughing out loud


seriously though other than Cap, how many other martial artists has Batroc fought?

Parmaniac
WTF is going on here? Batroc is no joke?

WellIllbedamned
Grayson would stomp Batroc. And I knew this forum was Marvel bias but WOW...

srankmissingnin
Batroc beat Paladin down easier then a pissed off Iron Fist did (and Paladin was holding back against Danny) in the same series only a few issues apart. cool

Zut Alors! Batroc ze Leaper > Iron Fist!

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
seriously though other than Cap, how many other martial artists has Batroc fought?

IF, Fantomex, Bucky...

Originally posted by Parmaniac
WTF is going on here? Batroc is no joke?

No, he's not.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8224/57965974.jpg
props to xdm from comicsledger

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
IF, Fantomex, Bucky...



No, he's not.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8224/57965974.jpg
props to xdm from comicsledger

Marvel Adventures?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, he's not.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8224/57965974.jpg
props to xdm from comicsledger Doesn't look canon looks like you was on one of your Marvel Adventures ahah

Marvelknight
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
seriously though other than Cap, how many other martial artists has Batroc fought?

Not sure. I know he fought Bucky and IF. But I mainly follow his history with Cap n I only have Batroc in Captain America comic books so far. But even against Cap, Batroc has shown to give and take punishment in some of the battles with Cap.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Marvel Adventures?

Parm didn't have to know that mad

Honestly I'm not sure, haven't read that book. Even if it's canon, it'd be hard to acknowledge it as non-PIS though. Batroc made Avengers look like noobs ermm

Parmaniac
You don't read Heroes for Hire right?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Parmaniac
You don't read Heroes for Hire right?

I don't. I heard Parker beat him, that's correct? More reason for me not to be interested in that series uhuh

Parmaniac
He actually did this without any effort, Batroc attacked wasn't able to hit him once even had help by fodder soldiers then Batroc called several Raptors and Scorpion (only Scorpion was able to tag him) Spider-man beats them gets a bit help later but effortlessly 1-shots Batroc later.

Going by his look, his name and his shitty performance I really thought Batroc is more or less a joke character.

Heroes for Hire 07+08

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Parmaniac
He actually did this without any effort, Batroc attacked wasn't able to hit him once even had help by fodder soldiers then Batroc called several Raptors and Scorpion (only Scorpion was able to tag him) Spider-man beats them gets a bit help later but effortlessly 1-shots Batroc later.

Going by his look, his name and his shitty performance I really thought Batroc is more or less a joke character.

Heroes for Hire 07+08

Do you read HFH? Because that is a pretty disingenuous account of what happened?

Batroc purposely lured Spider-man to an underground fight circuit, he wasn't trying to beat Spider-man. Then Peter ambushed him during the commotion of his escape.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Parmaniac
He actually did this without any effort, Batroc attacked wasn't able to hit him once even had help by fodder soldiers then Batroc called several Raptors and Scorpion (only Scorpion was able to tag him) Spider-man beats them gets a bit help later but effortlessly 1-shots Batroc later.

Going by his look, his name and his shitty performance I really thought Batroc is more or less a joke character.

Heroes for Hire 07+08

Madness. What was he doing in that book anyway? Guest appearance?

That's understandable. Gotta disagree about his performance though.

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I doubt Grayson would last that long against Danny. Yes, even the classic incarnation.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Madness. What was he doing in that book anyway? Guest appearance?

That's understandable. Gotta disagree about his performance though.

1. http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8118/70562889.jpg
2. http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6030/55326483.jpg
3. http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2154/37059196.jpg
4. http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3870/86134133.jpg
5. http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/5457/86740049.jpg
6 http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5877/32128346.jpg
7. http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5475/74879699.jpg
8. http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8306/39309440.jpg
9. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1010/75045734.jpg
10. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5428/24689011.jpg
11. http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5341/51533537.jpg
12. http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3704/92679906.jpg

I doubt Grayson would last that long against Danny. Yes, even the classic incarnation.

The only thing I see... is Batroc tanking an Iron Fist! cool

Prep-Man
Fantomex isn't one of the most skilled on MU, anyone have the scans of the battle?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Fantomex isn't one of the most skilled on MU, anyone have the scans of the battle?

It happened in X-Men Serve and Protect mini. He's not, but his powers and abilities more than make up for it...

Sin I AM
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It happened in X-Men Serve and Protect mini. He's not, but his powers and abilities more than make up for it...



it was a pretty good fight, and apparently gambit and logan respect his skills too

Prep-Man
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It happened in X-Men Serve and Protect mini. He's not, but his powers and abilities more than make up for it...

His powers didn't work on Batroc?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Prep-Man
His powers didn't work on Batroc?

He didn't use his misdirection on him. But even sans that he's extremely dangerous. Can't he read body language like Shiva or some similar shit?

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Prep-Man
His powers didn't work on Batroc?

he didnt try to misdirect

Bentley
Batroc is quite powerful as a fighter, he hangs against Cap on a regular basis, he has fought IF and has schooled Paladin as if he was nothing.

Bouboumaster
Batroc 8/10

Against Wayne, I'd say Batman 8/10

JakeTheBank
Batroc. It's a good fight.

iceman24567
Batroc wins hes just superior in a unarmed confrontation

Marvelknight
Batroc and Grayson are in the same league (A-list MAs) imo. And Grayson can win, it just would be a very hard fought battle between the two. While he was still NW, Grayson took on The League of Assassins and Ra's Al Ghul in a sword fight and won. As Batman, Grayson took on Clayface and a meta human at the same time in Batman #690-691 and he took down The Sense (i'll admit he did it with equipment). Grayson even had a nice showing against Slade in the Titans #30 or 31 I believe (can't remember).

But I feel Batroc will win the slight majority (6/10) only due to his fighting experience and skill. Batroc actively fights for the sport of it when against Cap and others who posses great skill in martial arts. Batroc may be the man to hang with Grayson's style of fighting and take him.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Batroc 8/10

Against Wayne, I'd say Batman 8/10

Grayson and Wayne aren't far off. Bruce is superior, but not by much.

inhgaibgai
batroc gets stomped

Bentley
Apparently Batroc has fought Elektra and lived through the day -as per an off-hand comment in his one-shot issue-. Let's remember Batroc doesn't use weapons. That's impressive.

StiltmanFTW
He also has a nice showing against Mister Hyde and put Zaran in his place with a single kick (non-fight, but badass anyway).

rotiart
Being a fan of captain America... And a somewhat follower of nightwing but not necessarily a batman fan...

I find it odd anyone would say a stomp for either party. Personally I think the matchup is rather fair. I actually can't decide either say so I call it a split.

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