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Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk

I'd say, from least to greatest:

Namor (Dry)
Wendigo
Namor (Wet)
Colossus
Wonder Man
Hercules
Savage Hulk (excluding infinite potential)
Doomsday
Current Hulk (excluding infinite potential)
Superman

Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Savage Hulk
Wendigo
Hercules
Superman
Current Hulk
Doomaday

Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Namor/Hercules
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

Don't Wendigo's generally range from Class 75-100 while Colossus is a solid Class 100?

^ you have it backwards actually

colossus was around 75 as a teen and then got stronger with age, while wendigo were class 100, they just look like shit cause of the ninja law when there are more of them.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Don't Wendigo's generally range from Class 75-100 while Colossus is a solid Class 100? Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ you have it backwards actually

Pretty much. At least the semi competent versions that go toe to toe with elite strongmen like the Hulk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Namor/Hercules
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus Herc has shown superior strength to Namor multiple times.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ you have it backwards actually

Paul Cartier was Class 75. Georges Baptiste was 90-100. The random Wendigo that She-Hulk and Wolverine fought didn't really impress me as being Class 100. The random Canadian Wendigoes that Rulk pwned and the Las Vegas American Wendigoes again didn't really impress me.

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc has shown superior strength to Namor multiple times.

Not as far as I know. The one time Hercules had the edge over Namor underwater was in that Avengers issue which is balanced out by two other instances favoring Namor in the strength department underwater.

At the very least, Namor is on Hercules' level at his peak.

Herc pushed against a force that Namor couldn't underwater and he was recently beating him when they were fighting.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Paul Cartier was Class 75. Georges Baptiste was 90-100. The random Wendigo that She-Hulk and Wolverine fought didn't really impress me as being Class 100. The random Canadian Wendigoes that Rulk pwned and the Las Vegas American Wendigoes again didn't really impress me. well when it's not specified it's assumed to be either current depiction, or the most well known version (i.e. immortal hurculese and not the powerless version), both of whom are babtiste wendigo

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well when it's not specified it's assumed to be either current depiction, or the most well known version, both of whom are babtiste wendigo

Georges still falls between 90 and 100 while Colossus is solidly 100 at this point in his career.

I still stand by my ranking of putting Colossus above Wendigoes as a whole.

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc pushed against a force that Namor couldn't underwater and he was recently beating him when they were fighting.

That's the Avengers issue I was referring to. In two other instances, Namor had the edge. The first is when the Avengers invaded Atlantis -right before/after Namor beats up Abomination underwater- and Namor came off looking stronger. I think Hercules even admitted Namor was superior. There's also the very original battle that stated Namor was stronger underwater. To be fair, it said Hercules was losing strength underwater.

The battle were Namora interferred? I'm pretty sure it was inconclusive. Hercules looked better on land but then Namor took to the sea but it wasn't allowed to continue.

Like I said, at the very least, Namor at his peak should be on par with Hercules.

Current Hulk


Superman/Savage Hulk/Doomsday
Hercules
Wonderman/Namor
Wendigo
Collossus

Hulk wankage is funny.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk wankage is funny.

I hope that doesn't include me.

I just can't remember seeing Doomsday bust planets is all.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's the Avengers issue I was referring to. In two other instances, Namor had the edge. The first is when the Avengers invaded Atlantis -right before/after Namor beats up Abomination underwater- and Namor came off looking stronger. I think Hercules even admitted Namor was superior. There's also the very original battle that stated Namor was stronger underwater. To be fair, it said Hercules was losing strength underwater.

The battle were Namora interferred? I'm pretty sure it was inconclusive. Hercules looked better on land but then Namor took to the sea but it wasn't allowed to continue.

Like I said, at the very least, Namor at his peak should be on par with Hercules. Herc will beat the water out of Namor at the bottom of the ocean.

Current Hulk/Superman (Dials to 11)
Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk
Hercules
Namor/Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk

Superman
Current Hulk
Doomsday
Savage Hulk
Hercules
Namor
Wonderman
Colossus
Wendigo

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc will beat the water out of Namor at the bottom of the ocean.

Hercules is a poor man's Thor. He can't even handle fish face. Dealwithit.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Current Hulk/Superman (Dials to 11)
Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Superman
Current Hulk
Doomsday
Savage Hulk


superdur

For the record, even Savage Hulk is stronger than Superman. With enough motivation at least.

What is actually funny is characterizing the acceptance of the undeniably amped level "worldbreaker hulk" is at as "wankage".lulz

How does a poor man's Thor have Thor seconds away from being choked out and buttraped?

Originally posted by Mindset
How does a poor man's Thor have Thor seconds away from being choked out and buttraped?

Thor was holding back. He knows how fragile Greeks are.

Thor got styled on.

Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Hercules
Namor/Wendigo/Wonder Man - no idea, but everyone above Colossus

Originally posted by Mindset
Thor got styled on.

Hater disgust

1) Current Hulk
2) Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk
3) Hercules
4) Wonderman
5) Namor
6) Wendigo
7) Colossus

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Namor/Hercules
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

This is pretty much the most accurate one I have seen so far. I think Wendigo is above Wonderman though and I also believe Superman and Doomsday are equals.

Naija was clear cut as well. The rest of them are haters besides Zop Zop and Mindset.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Hercules
Namor/Wendigo/Wonder Man - no idea, but everyone above Colossus

This one as well.

Originally posted by vansonbee
but everyone above Colossus


Lol

Originally posted by Naija boy
What is actually funny is characterizing the acceptance of the undeniably amped level "worldbreaker hulk" is at as "wankage".lulz That's because people are blowing "teh world breakingz!!!11!" feat hugely out of proportion. It was a shared feat between Hulk and Betty. Shared.

It was still obviously quite impressive- but lets not act as though Hulk, and Hulk alone, busted teh worldz.

Originally posted by carver9
The rest of them are haters besides Zop Zop and Mindset.

Lol. I give Hulk respect where its due. I do the same for Clark.

Guys, don't make it personal.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, don't make it personal.

Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Hercules
Doomsday
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus





Superman

Originally posted by Galan007
That's because you (and a few others, it seems) are blowing "teh world breakingz!!!11!" feat hugely out of proportion. It was a shared feat between Hulk and Betty. Shared.

It was still obviously quite impressive- but lets not act as though Hulk, and Hulk alone, busted teh worldz.

How am i blowing it out of proportion,...by putting current hulk above superman/doomsday/savage hulk? Give me a freaking break and stop putting your fantasies into my mouth. It was a shared feat between hulk and betty yes, but it was collateral damage from single mid air strikes from both of them.....which also vaporized an amped bi beast, wendigo, and armageddon as well as an army of mindless ones. Its not as if they even punched the planet or something. Thats what makes it even more impressive. Add that to the fact that hulk was clearly portrayed as significantly significantly stronger than any previous incarnation of himself (some of which are at or extremely close to superman level) then there isnt any problem at all.

No one said hulk alone busted "teh worlds" (in this thread at least). Thats your mental fabrication to make your claim more viable.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's because people are blowing "teh world breakingz!!!11!" feat hugely out of proportion. It was a shared feat between Hulk and Betty. Shared.

It was still obviously quite impressive- but lets not act as though Hulk, and Hulk alone, busted teh worldz.


Busting the world isnt the concern. The issue is we clearly know he is above any Hulk that has ever existed. All the weaker incarnations are clearly physically high herald and this Hulk has reach a new level of power and even admitted that he held back during his world breaker moments and you all still cant accept that he moved up a couple of tiers.

Thats the issue. Half of the people on that list has as of yet to wreck a planet and Hulk did it without even touching it but its still discredited. Then the people that he walked through without even laying a finger on them also shows that he is in a different tier. The sad thing is, no matter what he perform, it will still be dismissed when on average, current Hulk is emitting energy that is turning high tier beings to dust.

What more do you want?

Originally posted by Mindset
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Hercules
Doomsday
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus





Superman

I like how you had Superman at the bottom, edited, and pushed him further down out of spite. I approve.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I like how you had Superman at the bottom, edited, and pushed him further down out of spite. I approve.

Originally posted by Mindset
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Hercules
Doomsday
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus





Superman

I wasn't talking to you, but so be it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't talking to you, but so be it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't talking to you, but so be it. I know, I couldn't pass up the opportunity though.

Originally posted by Naija boy
How am i blowing it,... and stop putting your fantasies into my mouth. mmm

Originally posted by Mindset

Originally posted by Badabing
mmm







====================

Mine:

Current Hulk (if what i've heard/seen is indicative of his strength and not just wanking)
Superman
Savage Hulk
Doomaday
Hercules/Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

Originally posted by Badabing
mmm

You think Superman is stronger than Savage Hulk? Why?
Originally posted by Badabing
mmm



Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I like how you had Superman at the bottom, edited, and pushed him further down out of spite. I approve.

Originally posted by Naija boy
What is actually funny is characterizing the acceptance of the undeniably amped level "worldbreaker hulk" is at as "wankage".lulz he's not amped, he's just not pretending he's only twice as strong as superman anymore

he wasn't even mad

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You think Superman is stronger than Savage Hulk? Why?





Feats, to be blunt, though you could definitely make a case for Hulk.

And I mean sure, we could get in to a discussion about potential strength, but that would be pretty much the same thing.

Man, no love for Colossus.

Even if only a few of all the Wendigoes seen are even Class 100.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's not amped, he's just not pretending he's only twice as strong as superman anymore

he wasn't even mad

yeah i know, i didnt mean externaal amp, i just meant that he has transcended his normal levels

Originally posted by Naija boy
How am i blowing it out of proportion,...by putting current hulk above superman/doomsday/savage hulk? Give me a freaking break and stop putting your fantasies into my mouth. It was a shared feat between hulk and betty yes, but it was collateral damage from single mid air strikes from both of them.....which also vaporized an amped bi beast, wendigo, and armageddon as well as an army of mindless ones. Its not as if they even punched the planet or something. Thats what makes it even more impressive

No one said hulk alone busted "teh worlds" (in this thread at least). Thats your mental fabrication. Never seen someone get so defensive so quickly.

Anywho, clearly the interaction between Betty and Hulk is what destroyed the planet w/o either of them physically touching it... Kind of like a particle accelerator- ie. the particles are sped up and finally collide with one another, releasing an energy FAR greater than the sum of their parts. That being said, could Hulk have busted the world w/o Betty's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure. Could Betty have busted the world w/o Hulk's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure.

Like I said: it's still impressive, but not quite as impressive as many people tout it to be, imo. Shared feats are enormously hard to gauge, after all. For instance, that one feat certainly isn't enough (imo) to put Hulk several tiers above someone like Superman (who can casually shred through Imperiex Probes as though they aren't even there), as you suggested.

Originally posted by Badabing
mmm


droolio

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk
Current Hulk

Supes/Savage Hulk/DD

Herc/Namor

Colossus/Wendigo/Wonder Man


Pr, current Hulk is ridiculously amped. I think Guy posted scans. But he isn't skyfather++ like Carver says.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Man, no love for Colossus.

Even if only a few of all the Wendigoes seen are even Class 100.

Pete still gets more respect on this forum than he does at Marvel.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Feats, to be blunt, though you could definitely make a case for Hulk.

And I mean sure, we could get in to a discussion about potential strength, but that would be pretty much the same thing.

Feats? I'm sure Superman has more overall unquantifiable strength feats than that particular incarnation of Hulk but I honestly see no reason why Superman would be stronger than Hulk. The only incarnation that his stronger than is Gray Hulk and Professor Hulk with limitations. Even then, the Hulk would force him to go all out if DC vs. Marvel is any indication. At best, I think Clark starts out stronger but as Hulk's battles with Thor, original strength level Abomination etc. have shown, he can end up a lot stronger than when he started.

Potentially there's absolutely no question that Hulk can overcome Superman in my opinion. With enough motivation even Savage Hulk can surpass herald level. He doesn't get there as easy as Mindless Hulk or what have you but due to his emotional connection with beings like Betty, he can most like be pushed further imho as Green Scar has so aptly demonstrated.

Almost forgot. Look to the left of the planet. The moons and planets beside the planet Hulk was on was also destroyed from the energy emitted from the impact of the Hulks. This is shown in the next panel when it shows everything from the outskirt... everything was destroyed. You even see the moon in the first scan breaking apart.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/70848220.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/81615084.jpg/

Originally posted by Galan007
Never seen someone get so defensive so quickly.

Anywho, clearly the interaction between Betty and Hulk is what destroyed the planet w/o either of them physically touching it... Kind of like a particle accelerator- ie. the particles are sped up and finally collide with one another, releasing an energy FAR greater than the sum of their parts. That being said, could Hulk have busted the world w/o Betty's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure. Could Betty have busted the world w/o Hulk's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure.

Like I said: it's still impressive, but not quite as impressive as many people tout it to be, imo. Shared feats are enormously hard to gauge, after all. For instance, that one feat certainly isn't enough (imo) to put Hulk several tiers above Superman (who can casually shred through Imperiex Probes as though they aren't even there), as you suggested.

droolio first dumbass post i've seen galen make

don't make a trend of it

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pete still gets more respect on this forum than he does at Marvel.

Could get a little more if folks don't think he's stronger than Paul or George. Now if they're talking Mauvias, I can see where they're coming from since he manhandled Sasquatch. But Mauvias is really the only Wendigo who was definitely Class 100 to Class 100+.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
first dumbass post i've seen galen make

don't make a trend of it Galan becoming the great!?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
first dumbass post i've seen galen make

don't make a trend of it Not the first troll-esque post I've seen PG make. Please stop making a trend of it.

Originally posted by Badabing
Current Hulk

Supes/Savage Hulk/DD

Herc/Namor

Colossus/Wendigo/Wonder Man


Pr, current Hulk is ridiculously amped. I think Guy posted scans. But he isn't skyfather++ like Carver says.

Good post.

The only thing I disagree with is him not being low skyfather physically. The Hulk that was shaking the continent with mere footsteps after his fight with Sentry was past Herald... he took it a couple of notches above that in his latest run.

trolling is good, clean fun

Galan, I'm not the biggest Hulk fan but even I have to concede that he's currently intended to be way above Heralds. Pak has made it quite clear. Even without going World Breaker, Green Scar walks around comfortably above Herald level physically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Feats? I'm sure Superman has more overall unquantifiable strength feats than that particular incarnation of Hulk but I honestly see no reason why Superman would be stronger than Hulk. The only incarnation that his stronger than is Gray Hulk and Professor Hulk with limitations. Even then, the Hulk would force him to go all out if DC vs. Marvel is any indication. At best, I think Clark starts out stronger but as Hulk's battles with Thor, original strength level Abomination etc. have shown, he can end up a lot stronger than when he started.

Potentially there's absolutely no question that Hulk can overcome Superman in my opinion. With enough motivation even Savage Hulk can surpass herald level. He doesn't get there as easy as Mindless Hulk or what have you but due to his emotional connection with beings like Betty, he can most like be pushed further imho as Green Scar has so aptly demonstrated.

And that's fine; I don't doubt your reasoning (the Hulk parts anyway), I just disagree with it.

Originally posted by Badabing
Current Hulk

Supes/Savage Hulk/DD

Herc/Namor

Colossus/Wendigo/Wonder Man


Pr, current Hulk is ridiculously amped. I think Guy posted scans. But he isn't skyfather++ like Carver says.

ah, ok, thanks.

Originally posted by Galan007
Never seen someone get so defensive so quickly.

Anywho, clearly the interaction between Betty and Hulk is what destroyed the planet w/o either of them physically touching it... Kind of like a particle accelerator- ie. the particles are sped up and finally collide with one another, releasing an energy FAR greater than the sum of their parts. That being said, could Hulk have busted the world w/o Betty's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure. Could Betty have busted the world w/o Hulk's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure.

Like I said: it's still impressive, but not quite as impressive as many people tout it to be, imo. Shared feats are enormously hard to gauge, after all. For instance, that one feat certainly isn't enough (imo) to put Hulk several tiers above someone like Superman (who can casually shred through Imperiex Probes as though they aren't even there), as you suggested.

droolio

HUH?

Naija is about to destroy you.

Galan, you are a lot better than this.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And that's fine; I don't doubt your reasoning (the Hulk parts anyway), I just disagree with it

Stop being so reasonable. In Canada, shit gets real. You won't survive unless you become a little more cold blooded.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Galan, I'm not the biggest Hulk fan but even I have to concede that he's currently intended to be way above Heralds. Pak has made it quite clear. Even without going World Breaker, Green Scar walks around comfortably above Herald level physically.

This...

Pretty much plain and clear cut.

Current Hulk
Savage hulk
Superman
Doomsday
herc/Namor
Wonderman
Wendigo
Colossus

Pr is Irish, he must be trying to confuse you or something.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stop being so reasonable. In Canada, shit gets real. You won't survive unless you become a little more cold blooded.

Don't worry; I've already got my hockey stick, moose repellant and of course, ample supplies of maple im various forms.

And a shotgun for the bears, naturally.

Originally posted by carver9
HUH?

Naija is about to destroy you.

Galan, you are a lot better than this.

Carver, get off Hulk's nuts, I'm sure someone else wants a turn.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Galan, I'm not the biggest Hulk fan but even I have to concede that his currently intended to be way above Heralds. At least physically. Pak has made it quite clear. Even without going World Breaker, Green Scar walks around at above Herald level physically. You're misunderstanding. In no way/shape/form am I trying to downplay Hulk- he's enormously uber atm, with Betty being his apparent equal.

However, it seems like the vast majority of people are trying to credit the recent feat in IH solely to Hulk. That is simply inaccurate. = all I'm saying.

Originally posted by carver9
HUH?

Naija is about to destroy you.

Galan, you are a lot better than this. Lol, destroy what? I stated EXACTLY what was shown in the issue.

Sidenote: isn't your jaw sore yet?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't worry; I've already got my hockey stick, moose repellant and of course, ample supplies of maple im various forms.

And a shotgun for the bears, naturally.



What about the beavers? Don't let them fool you. There nasty little things when they get riled up.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sidenote: isn't your jaw sore yet?

Don't worry, his had a lot of practice.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


What about the beavers? Don't let them fool you. There nasty little things when they get riled up.

mmm

I didn't even know Canada had beavers. Well, the other kind, sure, but still... Craft buggers.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're misunderstanding. In no way/shape/form am I trying to downplay Hulk- he's enormously uber atm, with Betty being his apparent equal.

However, it seems like the vast majority of people are trying to credit the recent feat in IH solely to Hulk. That is simply inaccurate. = all I'm saying.

Fair enough.

Personally the fact that three Herald beings that were vastly amped were incinerated by the aftereffects alone -the impact was miles up in the air- impresses me more than the planets being destroyed. Ridiculously uber imho.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't worry, his had a lot of practice. You're really open with your offline activities.

U jelly?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
planets being destroyed. that's a gray hulk level feat anyway

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fair enough.

Personally the fact that three Herald beings that were vastly amped were incinerated by the aftereffects alone -the impact was miles up in the air- impresses me more than the planets being destroyed. Ridiculously uber imho.


I think most people understood the feat was impressive as was Hulk himself the problem is what the problem usually is when involving Hulk Carver.Most of the discussion regarding that feat has to do with reminding him or correcting him constantly that it was a shared feat he keeps attributing that feat to Hulk or wording his responses as if Hulk was the only one involved.

I'ts like someone starting shit walking away and then asking why there is trouble.

he's the bane of pr's existence on kmc

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's the bane of pr's existence on kmc

I'm pretty sure you've caused more trouble than he has, tbh.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/gdsh.gif

Honestly, you can both learn a lot from me.

I'm probably the model poster.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I think most people understood the feat was impressive as was Hulk himself the problem is what the problem usually is when involving Hulk Carver.Most of the discussion regarding that feat has to do with reminding him or correcting him constantly that it was a shared feat he keeps attributing that feat to Hulk or wording his responses as if Hulk was the only one involved.

I'ts like someone starting shit walking away and then asking why there is trouble.

Never said it wasnt a shared ft. Cant see to many people repeating it though.

Originally posted by Mindset
Honestly, you can both learn a lot from me.

I'm probably the model poster.

Originally posted by Galan007
Never seen someone get so defensive so quickly.

Anywho, clearly the interaction between Betty and Hulk is what destroyed the planet w/o either of them physically touching it... Kind of like a particle accelerator- ie. the particles are sped up and finally collide with one another, releasing an energy FAR greater than the sum of their parts. That being said, could Hulk have busted the world w/o Betty's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure. Could Betty have busted the world w/o Hulk's interaction? Maybe, but there's no way to be sure.

Like I said: it's still impressive, but not quite as impressive as many people tout it to be, imo. Shared feats are enormously hard to gauge, after all. For instance, that one feat certainly isn't enough (imo) to put Hulk several tiers above Superman (who can casually shred through Imperiex Probes as though they aren't even there), as you suggested.

heh.Pretty pathetic. Talk out of your ass and then post a smiley face and claim im getting defensive. Is that suppose to make up for the fabrications in your post? Cuz when you make false claims im supposed to not defend myself against them? Brilliant Galan, just brilliant.. Seriously GTFO and go keep using that nonsense on people foolish enough to fall for it.

lol at trying your best to rationalize away what occurred. Seriously just lulz at the comparisons. Its highly unlikely that Greg Pak intended for the scene to resemble the physics of a particle accelerator in which the actual force/energy created by the hulk and she hulks collision was exponentially greater than the actual force/energy the both of them posessed and thus used in the collision. That would you know....defeat the entire purpose of his recent inflation of hulks strength levels and be pretty inconsistent with the real life physics of such a situation anyways.. That is some heavy duty reaching to say the least.

That feat in addition to his portrayal as far above even his WWH version, certainly does put him as considerably above supermans regular portrayal strength wise unless u adopt the extreme view that superman is far above even the likes of WWH strengthwise, which would expose where the true overestimation lies in this scenario. And it certainly wouldnt be with me

^Oh and in the above post when i use the word "created" i mean "released" since strictly speaking energy can neither be created or destroyed though this doesnt really apply in comics

Originally posted by Mindset
Honestly, you can both learn a lot from me.

I'm probably the model poster.
Model like kat stacks

Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Doomsday
Superman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fbut as Hulk's battles with Thor, original strength level Abomination etc. have shown, he can end up a lot stronger than when he started.

Thor usually matched Savage Hulk in strength, no matter how angry he got, didn't he?

The hour long test of strength?

Originally posted by cdtm
Thor usually matched Savage Hulk in strength, no matter how angry he got, didn't he?

http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/1/9/customsig_83719_UD.gif

Guess not.

Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Hercules/Namor (fully hydrated)
Wonderman
Colossus
Wendigo

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk

current hulk/doomsday (depending on version)
superman
savage hulk/hercules
namor/wonderman
wendigo

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Current Hulk/Superman (Dials to 11)
Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk
Hercules
Namor/Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

A good one.

1. Current Hulk/FC Superman/HP DD
2. DD
3. Regular Supermam/Savage Hulk
4. Hercules
5. Namor/Wonderman/Colossus
6. Wendigo

And I don't find it amusing anymore that some posters become insulting just because someone disagrees with them. It's immature and unnecessary. I think it would be better to ask the person politely why he disagrees with you rather then insult him from the start. If you are not up to this task, it's still better to ignore the poster...

I don't know why this aggressiveness is tolerated, maybe because some poster are long enough here to earn this right? That would be silly.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Model like kat stacks

Low blow with that post.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Current Hulk
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomsday
Namor/Hercules
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

Wonderman is stronger than namor, that is fact and on panel

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Wonderman is stronger than namor, that is fact and on panel

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Supermam shocklaugh

Originally posted by psycho gundam
shocklaugh

uhuh

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
A good one.

1. Current Hulk/FC Superman/HP DD
2. DD
3. Regular Supermam/Savage Hulk
4. Hercules
5. Namor/Wonderman/Colossus
6. Wendigo

And I don't find it amusing anymore that some posters become insulting just because someone disagrees with them. It's immature and unnecessary. I think it would be better to ask the person politely why he disagrees with you rather then insult him from the start. If you are not up to this task, it's still better to ignore the poster...

I don't know why this aggressiveness is tolerated, maybe because some poster are long enough here to earn this right? That would be silly.

Shut yo mouf!!!

Kidding aside, very nice post. I do like intrigue every now and then, but definitely agree when peeps cross the line. Intrigue in these boards keep me coming back for more . As for the occasional "shots fired" comments, everyone here is a big boy and should suck it up.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk

From Greatest to Least (by feats)

Doomsday
Superman
Current Hulk
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Namor
Colossus

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
A good one.

1. Current Hulk/FC Superman/HP DD
2. DD
3. Regular Supermam/Savage Hulk
4. Hercules
5. Namor/Wonderman/Colossus
6. Wendigo

And I don't find it amusing anymore that some posters become insulting just because someone disagrees with them. It's immature and unnecessary. I think it would be better to ask the person politely why he disagrees with you rather then insult him from the start. If you are not up to this task, it's still better to ignore the poster...

I don't know why this aggressiveness is tolerated, maybe because some poster are long enough here to earn this right? That would be silly.

I agree buddy.


As for this thread.

Current Hulk





Savage Hulk



The rest

Originally posted by h1a8
From Greatest to Least (by feats)

Doomsday
Superman
Current Hulk
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Namor
Colossus

Is Wendigo a DC or Marvel character?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
A good one.

1. Current Hulk/FC Superman/HP DD
2. DD
3. Regular Supermam/Savage Hulk
4. Hercules
5. Namor/Wonderman/Colossus
6. Wendigo




Slight tweakage

1. Current Hulk
1.2. Superman all out / HP DD
2. Superman / DD
3. Savage Hulk
4. Hercules
5. Wonderman
6. Namor
7. Colossus
8. Wendigo

I honestly didn't know so many people thought Superman was actually stronger than Savage Hulk. I mean he starts out stronger sure but that's about it.

mhmm

I wonder how some of these lists would turn out if you tossed in Thor or Captain Marvel into the mix.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I honestly didn't know so many people thought Superman was actually stronger than Savage Hulk. I mean he starts out stronger sure but that's about it.

mhmm

I wonder how some of these lists would turn out if you tossed in Thor or Captain Marvel into the mix.

I usually use an averaged out Savage Hulk when I compare him to a likewise averaged out Superman. I do concede that Hulk definitely can surpass him (and pretty much anyone) with the right motivation.

If you added Thor and Captain Marvel, the list would look something like this, imo:

Current Hulk/Superman (Dials to 11/extremely high end)
Pretty f'n pissed Savage Hulk /True WM Thor
Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk/Captain Marvel
Thor
Hercules
Namor/Wonder Man
Wendigo
Colossus

Your mileage may vary. And personally, I don't think Thor is all that physically inferior strength wise to Superman and co.

Fair enough I guess.

The one problem I have with your list is the dials to 11 Superman. Why is he so high up and on par with current Hulk? If your reasoning for placing him there is high end feats than your whole list would go out of whack as you'd have to do the same for every other character. Unless that's some sort of amped up Superman or a joke placing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fair enough I guess.

The one problem I have with your list is the dials to 11 Superman. Why is he so high up and on par with current Hulk? If your reasoning for placing him there is high end feats than your whole list would go out of whack as you'd have to do the same for every other character. Unless that's some sort of amped up Superman or a joke placing.

It is an amped/joke placing. If you're really into unquantifiable shit, he's your guy, though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fair enough I guess.

The one major problem I have with your list is the dials to 11 Superman. Why is he so high up? If your reasoning for placing him there is high end feats, then your whole list would go out of whack as you'd have to do the same for every other character. Unless that's some sort of amped up Superman or a joke placing. It gets even worse because you have him higher than a raging Savage Hulk, a Thor that's ten times as strong and on par with current Hulk.


Pretty much.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hater disgust

1) Current Hulk
2) Superman/Doomsday/Savage Hulk
3) Hercules
4) Wonderman
5) Namor
6) Wendigo
7) Colossus
^^^ Approve.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It is an amped/joke placing. If you're really into unquantifiable shit, he's your guy, though.

That's fair enough. I just don't think it would work with any amount of examination. You'd have to take into account Thor's feats (World Engine, Celestials, Midgard Serpent), Hulk's feats (Thunderclapping a cosmos, Onslaught etc.) and Hercules biggest feat (Lifting up a Universe).

And I doubt any writer would have Superman over ten times as strong as Thor or above a raging Hulk unless we take into account Philo's fan fiction/fapping material.

I know I'm comig off a bit...nit picky, my bad.

Rage, you seem pretty much familiar with Savage Hulk than anyone else. Question...what is a Average Savage Hulk? When people use his strength on the low end (never knew he had a low tier strength), would you still consider him Supes and Thor equal physically?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's fair enough. I just don't think it would work with any amount of examination. You'd have to take into account Thor's feats (World Engine, Celestials, Midgard Serpent), Hulk's feats (Thunderclapping a cosmos, Onslaught etc.) and Hercules biggest feat (Lifting up a Universe).


Pretty much.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's fair enough. I just don't think it would work with any amount of examination. You'd have to take into account Thor's feats (World Engine, Celestials, Midgard Serpent), Hulk's feats (Thunderclapping a cosmos, Onslaught etc.) and Hercules biggest feat (Lifting up a Universe).

And I doubt any writer would have Superman over ten times as strong as Thor or above a raging Hulk unless we take into account Philo's fan fiction/fapping material.

I know I'm going off a bit...nit picky, my bad.

True. I feel that when it comes to shit that's really unquantifiable, Superman tends to shine more than when it comes to stuff that is quantifiable - not that's he a slouch in that department, either.

I lol'd, btw.

Herc is number 1 tbh,

Your a f*g tbh.
Originally posted by carver9
Rage, you seem pretty much familiar with Savage Hulk than anyone else. Question...what is a Average Savage Hulk? When people use his strength on the low end (never knew he had a low tier strength), would you still consider him Supes and Thor equal physically?

Savage Hulk's strength is entirely depended on the writer imho due to his dynamic strength so it's hard to peg a definite average but I'd say his usually in the Thor/Superman weight class or close to it. Whenever he faces an elite strong man like Gladiator, Thor or Juggernaut, he's almost always at least there equal in strength either at the beginning of the fight or shortly into it. With enough motivation, he can surpass them.

That depends on what you mean by low end. If you take a Hulk that's going toe to toe with Iron Clad and compare him to Superman/Thor, he's going to come off looking worse. But, if you take that very same Hulk and immediately teleport him into a battle with either of the two, he'll at least match them.

Originally posted by Galan007


Sidenote: isn't your jaw sore yet? Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't worry, his had a lot of practice. Originally posted by Mindset
You're really open with your offline activities. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


U jelly?

=======

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your a f*g tbh.


I would say you're projecting, but your homosexuality is overt. I guess wishful thinking on your part.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your a f*g tbh.


Savage Hulk's strength is entirely depended on the writer imho due to his dynamic strength so it's hard to peg a definite average but I'd say his usually in the Thor/Superman weight class or close to it. Whenever he faces an elite strong man like Gladiator, Thor or Juggernaut, he's almost always at least there equal in strength either at the beginning of the fight or shortly into it. With enough motivation, he can surpass them.

That depends on what you mean by low end. If you take a Hulk that's going toe to toe with Iron Clad and compare him to Superman/Thor, his going to come off looking worse. But, if you take that very same Hulk and immediately teleport him into a battle with either of the two, he'll at least match them.

Gotcha...I was wondering because I have never seen him overpowered, even when going against some of the strongest in Marvel. Thats why I didn't understand why people rank him below Thor and Supes when they have basically nothing indicating that during the beginning, he isn't on their level.

He might have some showings where he lose but I don't think him "not" having the strength was the key to his defeat.

I imagine a lot of it is Hulk ignorance and hatred of the character. He's extremely one dimensional, but that dimension he does have is really really good.

Methinks Wendy is being underrated here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your a f*g tbh.


Savage Hulk's strength is entirely depended on the writer imho due to his dynamic strength so it's hard to peg a definite average but I'd say his usually in the Thor/Superman weight class or close to it. Whenever he faces an elite strong man like Gladiator, Thor or Juggernaut, he's almost always at least there equal in strength either at the beginning of the fight or shortly into it. With enough motivation, he can surpass them.

That depends on what you mean by low end. If you take a Hulk that's going toe to toe with Iron Clad and compare him to Superman/Thor, he's going to come off looking worse. But, if you take that very same Hulk and immediately teleport him into a battle with either of the two, he'll at least match them.

when he collided with ironclad at the crossroads, that was a MASSIVE display of power.

in general, savage hulk is about as strong as he needs to be, depending on who he's fighting. there really is no 'low end' hulk imo. by the same token, i think it is a bit of a myth regarding savage hulk's ever increasing strength. he's fought thor for hours, had extended battles against herc and namor, wendigo, et al., but we never really see him get 'stronger'. the fights remain draws for the most part, even when they are said to be lasting for long periods of time. rarely does it happen that hulk gets noticeably stronger and actually wins a prolonged battle. current hulk is something altogether different....

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Methinks Wendy is being underrated here.

meh, not sure about that....

Originally posted by leonidas
when he collided with ironclad at the crossroads, that was a MASSIVE display of power.

in general, savage hulk is about as strong as he needs to be, depending on who he's fighting. there really is no 'low end' hulk imo. by the same token, i think it is a bit of a myth regarding savage hulk's ever increasing strength. he's fought thor for hours, had extended battles against herc and namor, wendigo, et al., but we never really see him get 'stronger'. the fights remain draws for the most part, even when they are said to be lasting for long periods of time. rarely does it happen that hulk gets noticeably stronger and actually wins a prolonged battle. current hulk is something altogether different....

The only person who he has had battles with that have lasted an hour long and more is Thor as far as I can tell. And tbh, I can't really hold it against him. Thor has had an issue long battle with Drax who was tapping into the Infinity Gem of Power, Destroyer Armor etc.

Personally, I think that Hulk needed an extra level of motivation to jump past the elite strong men tier. At least back in the day. If Hercules/Namor harmed Betty, I'm sure the fight wouldn't have ended well for them.

yeah, maybe had they harmed betty things would be different, just that his getting stronger as he gets madder, doesn't really hold up all that often. he may get decked at the start of a fight then come back and fight longer, but savage hulk really never seems to surpass top tiers in terms of combat strength feats. he has other feats, but he very rarely beats the top guys. at least back in the day....

Originally posted by Naija boy
heh.Pretty pathetic. Talk out of your ass and then post a smiley face and claim im getting defensive. Is that suppose to make up for the fabrications in your post? Cuz when you make false claims im supposed to not defend myself against them? Brilliant Galan, just brilliant.. Seriously GTFO and go keep using that nonsense on people foolish enough to fall for it. Love the irony here. You call me pathetic, but in the same breath launch a attempt at badgering? Hysterical.

Try to keep the childish antics to yourself, kay?

Originally posted by Naija boy
lol at trying your best to rationalize away what occurred. Seriously just lulz at the comparisons. Its highly unlikely that Greg Pak intended for the scene to resemble the physics of a particle accelerator in which the actual force/energy created by the hulk and she hulks collision was exponentially greater than the actual force/energy the both of them posessed and thus used in the collision. That would you know....defeat the entire purpose of his recent inflation of hulks strength levels and be pretty inconsistent with the real life physics of such a situation anyways.. That is some heavy duty reaching to say the least. What are you talking about? Did you read a thing I said? If so, then you might note I never said that was Pak's intent- I said that's what it seemed akin to.

Obviously the two of them colliding is what released enough energy to destroy the planet- and since neither of them have come close to accomplishing the same level of feat before that instance, my previous post is perfectly logical. The two of them collide and, w/o physically touching the planet, release a power FAR greater than either of them could (or ever have, at least) have amassed separately. To me, this implies that a power greater than the sum of the parts was generated. If you really call that "reaching" on my end, then you are evidently ignoring EXACTLY what was shown in the comic, because that's all I'm going by.

Originally posted by Naija boy
That feat in addition to his portrayal as far above even his WWH version, certainly does put him as considerably above supermans regular portrayal strength wise unless u adopt the extreme view that superman is far above even the likes of WWH strengthwise, which would expose where the true overestimation lies in this scenario. And it certainly wouldnt be with me You're twisting things a bit. I would agree that Hulk (and subsequently Betty) are above everyone on the list- Superman included. But are they several tiers above someone like Supes (as you originally suggested) based on that one feat? Not IMO. As I said: shared feats are enormously hard to gauge.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only person who he has had battles with that have lasted an hour long and more is Thor as far as I can tell. Gray Hulk fought Pineapple Thing for over an hour. A dying Mindless Hulk (who didn't get stronger) fought Doc Sampson for over six hours. Professor Hulk fought Hel for days.

WWH also went non-stop against Hulkbuster Extremis Iron Man --> Mighty Avengers --> Fantastic Four --> Champions --> General Ross. And I guess, WWH "lasted" against Umar for over three hours.

Originally posted by Galan007

Obviously the two of them colliding is what released enough energy to destroy the planet- and since neither of them have come close to accomplishing the same level of feat before that instance, my previous post is perfectly logical. The two of them collide and, w/o physically touching the planet, release a power FAR greater than either of them could (or ever have, at le ast) have amassed separately. To me, this implies that a power greater than the sum of the parts was generated. If you really call that "reachi ng" on my end, then you are evidently ignoring EXACTLY what was shown in the comic, because that's all I'm going by.
. Savage Hulk destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth with a single punch(which maybe more impressive than that recent feat), this is wbh here.... he is far more powerful

no to mention savage hulk lit up an entire dimension with a thunder clap long before this

i wish people would do there homework on hulk before making absurdly false statements

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Savage Hulk destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth with a single punch(which maybe more impressive than that recent feat), this is wbh here.... he is far more powerful

no to mention savage hulk lit up an entire dimension with a thunder clap long before this

i wish people would do there homework on hulk before making absurdly false statements

You should follow your own advice methinks.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You should follow your own advice methinks. when have i ever made absud statements about hulk?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
when have i ever made absud statements about hulk?

I was speaking generally, but the post you just made, for starters.

Grey Hulk destroyed the asteroid, not Savage.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk

1- Current Hulk
2- Savage Hulk / Superman / Hercules / Doomsday
3- Wonderman
4- Colossus
5- Wendigo / Namor

Now, I think that Namor, even if he's weaker, would own Colossus and maybe Wonderman too.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gray Hulk fought Pineapple Thing for over an hour. A dying Mindless Hulk (who didn't get stronger) fought Doc Sampson for over six hours. Professor Hulk fought Hel for days.

WWH also went non-stop against Hulkbuster Extremis Iron Man --> Mighty Avengers --> Fantastic Four --> Champions --> General Ross. And I guess, WWH "lasted" against Umar for over three hours.

I was referring to opponents who have gone toe to toe with an enraged Savage Hulk for large periods of time.

If you want to get really specific, Thor/Merged Hulk fought for over an hour etc.

Originally posted by Mindset
Grey Hulk destroyed the asteroid, not Savage.

Grey hulk bust a physical object twice as big as earth with 1 punch

WBH>>>Savage Hulk>>>Grey Hulk

thus i see no problem with that recent feat and infact he should be capable of much more

OK?

Originally posted by Mindset
OK? im not talking to you .

Is that why you quoted me?

Originally posted by Mindset
Is that why you quoted me? no one is talking to you

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Grey hulk bust a physical object twice as big as earth with 1 punch

WBH>>>Savage Hulk>>>Grey Hulk

thus i see no problem with that recent feat and infact he should be capable of much more

They did do much more...they blew up her realm.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no one is talking to you You are either retarded or blind.

.

It seems as though Savage Hulk may have been swept under the carpet so to speak seeing as there's this uber new Hulk running around. He has plenty of feats on the level of Superman, in many cases surpassing him, even in the wild unquantifiable category.

He's s always been stated of having limitless potential and was clearly Marvels strong guy even before the Green Scar persona was created

Originally posted by Galan007
Love the irony here. You call me pathetic, but in the same breath launch a attempt at badgering? Hysterical.

Try to keep the childish antics to yourself, kay?


There was no badgering going on. You falsely accused me of something, then when i responded and called your nonsense by clearly pointing out that i had not said any of the things you tried to accredit to me, you then attempted to play the "why are you getting defensive card". Seriously, dont go presenting falsehoods about others positions and then attempt to fall back on your supposed and non-existent internet maturity in order to cover up those falsehoods. It is extremely transparent and yes...pathetic.



Equivocation wont help you now and neither will playing semantics. My mentioning of paks intent was to underpin the obvious (apparently not) point that writers in general portray what they intend to portray. Hence your claim which amounts to "Im not saying thats what he was trying to portray but thats what it looks like he portrayed" is nonsensical. Firstly, the physics of that situation as presented in the comic are not at all similar to that of a particle accelarator and consequently using it as a parallel is faulty on many levels. Ironically what you deem logical is actually a circular reasoning logical fallacy. Instead of simply taking the scene as it is presented on panel, you assume because you havent seen hulk (or red she hulk) do this before that he must be incapable of it and consequently some external factors (which in this case refer to the physics you arbitrarily and wrongly attributed to the feat) must have facilitated the feat. Hence your conclusion is already assumed in your premise. Aside from the overt structural flaws i just pointed out, it is counter-intuitive to suggest this feat was facilitated by particle accelerator like physics (result being greater than the sum of its parts) just because hulk hasnt accomplished anything close to this before. The entire point of the arc was after all to show Hulk reaching a new level of strength (no holding back and such) and so basing any conclusions about his capabilities off his appearances prior to this one is inaccurate.

Your assesment of the implications of that scene to put it bluntly, is flat out horrendous. A power greater than the sum of their parts can only be the implication if you assume firstly that the energy released in the destruction of the planet and nearby moon is something far beyond anything Worldbreaker Hulk and his equal Red She hulk betty are capable of even in conjunction, and secondly that Greg pak intended for the physics of that situation to be not only inconsistent with a similar real life scenario (in which the energy generated would be equal to the sum of their parts i.e Hulk and she hulks contribution) but subsequently in line with the unique conditions found within a particle accelarator. That is not going by what is portrayed in the comic by any stretch of the imagination. It is merely projecting assumptions based on preconceived notions of the characters capabilities onto very clear and comprehensible pictures and text in the hope that they will stick....They wont.



Im not twisting anything, That feat in its actual form rather than your bastardized interpretation of it along with the emphasis on the significant strength gap between this Hulk and his previous incarnaitons (who were on par with superman) is what puts current hulk as significantly stronger than someone like superman at his regular portrayal levels. The shared nature of the feat is undeniable but does not take much away from it as even generating at bare minimum half of the required energy to perform such a feat ( destruction of a planet, multiple significantly amped class 100 characters, army of mindless ones, and nearby moon without even making contact with any of them) is far above the capabilities of any of the others on the list on average.

Originally posted by Naija boy
There was no badgering going on. You falsely accused me of something, then when i responded and called your nonsense by clearly pointing out that i had not said any of the things you tried to accredit to me, you then attempted to play the "why are you getting defensive card". Seriously, dont go presenting falsehoods about others positions and then attempt to fall back on your supposed and non-existent internet maturity in order to cover up those falsehoods. It is extremely transparent and yes...pathetic.



Equivocation wont help you now and neither will playing semantics. My mentioning of paks intent was to underpin the obvious (apparently not) point that writers in general portray what they intend to portray. Hence your claim which amounts to "Im not saying thats what he was trying to portray but thats what it looks like he portrayed" is nonsensical. Firstly, the physics of that situation as presented in the comic are not at all similar to that of a particle accelarator and consequently using it as a parallel is faulty on many levels. Ironically what you deem logical is actually a circular reasoning logical fallacy. Instead of simply taking the scene as it is presented on panel, you assume because you havent seen hulk do this before that he must be incapable of it and consequently some external factors (which in this case refer to the physics you arbitrarily and wrongly attributed to the feat) must have facilitated the feat. Hence your conclusion is already assumed in your premise. Aside from the overt structural flaws i just pointed out, it is counter-intuitive to suggest this feat was facilitated by particle accelerator like physics just because hulk hasnt accomplished anything close to this before. The entire point of the arc was after all to show Hulk reaching a new level of strength (no holding back and such) and so basing any conclusions about his capabilities off his appearances prior to this one is inaccurate.

Your assesment of the implications of that scene to put it bluntly, is flat out horrendous. A power greater than the sum of their parts can only be the implication if you assume firstly that the energy released in the destruction of the planet and nearby moon is something far beyond anything Worldbreaker Hulk and his equal Red She hulk betty are incapable of even in conjunction, and secondly that Greg pak intended for the physics of that situation to be not only inconsistent with a similar real life scenario (in which the energy generated would be equal to the sum of their parts i.e Hulk and she hulks contribution) but subsequently in line with the unique conditions found within a particle accelarator. That is not going by what is portrayed in the comic by any stretch of the imagination. It is merely projecting assumptions based on preconceived notions of the characters capabilities onto very clear and comprehensible pictures and text in the hope that they will stick....They wont.



Im not twisting anything, That feat in its actual form rather than your bastardized interpretation of it along with the emphasis on the significant strength gap between this Hulk and his previous incarnaitons (who were on par with superman) is what puts current hulk as significantly stronger than someone like superman at his regular portrayal levels. The shared nature of the feat is undeniable but does not take much away from it as even generating at bare minimum half of the required energy to perform such a feat ( destruction of a planet, multiple significantly amped class 100 characters, army of mindless ones, and nearby moon without even making contact with any of them) is far above the capabilities of any of the others on the list on average.


Lol...Damn this post looks as if it was written by a college professor. The words in this is mind boggling.

Overall, even though I don't understand a d*** thing you said... I agree.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Damn this post looks as if it was written by a college professor. The words in this is mind boggling.

Overall, even though I don't understand a d*** thing you said... I agree.

...How?

Originally posted by -Pr-
...How?

Huh?

lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh?

Let me break it down:

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Damn this post looks as if it was written by a college professor. The words in this is mind boggling.

Overall, even though I don't understand a d*** thing you said... I agree.

That doesn't reflect well.

^^lol indeed