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I think War Hulk with the Sword and that armor would win. How about you guys?

WWH kills him.

I'd give it to War Hulk too. While he only had what, one or two fights, he really seemed to think of even Juggernaut as nothing more than a nuissance. WWH, despite his words, actually slugged it out with Cain for a moment, looked the worse for it, and then opted for the BFR.

Apocalypse spoke highly of the Celestial tech he grafted onto War and the fact that, IIRC, he was already channelling 2 (?) universes energies, it wouldn't surprise me if he could start channelling the energy straight out of WWH since they are the same being.

War Hulk obviously

War Hulk, horseman of the Apocalypse, wins.

juggernaut would get tooled by either of them if they weren't distracted, no point in using him as a go between.

Don't know why this isn't in the respect thread but WWH presence was melting Heralds.


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WWH

WWH feats are the one's that are restricted to WWH arc right?

I would still WWH, because he's more creativity, compared to the other incarnations and all I recall about War Hulk, is that tentacle that lifted Jugg about.

War Hulk ripped through Absorbing man as well. People are overating the Jugs ft though. Jugs pushed him back for some miles before War Hulk gained the necessary strength to stop him. WWH stopped him almost immediately.

Originally posted by carver9
War Hulk ripped through Absorbing man as well. People are overating the Jugs ft though. Jugs pushed him back for some miles before War Hulk gained the necessary strength to stop him. WWH stopped him almost immediately. Thats not true at all

Originally posted by carver9
War Hulk ripped through Absorbing man as well. People are overating the Jugs ft though. Jugs pushed him back for some miles before War Hulk gained the necessary strength to stop him. WWH stopped him almost immediately. WWH never stopped him.

Originally posted by iceman24567
War Hulk obviously

Originally posted by Mindset
WWH never stopped him.

Jugs was struggling to push him.

war

Originally posted by carver9
Jugs was struggling to push him. So we both agree he was pushing him.

Great.

Savage Hulk stopped juggernaut in motion sent him flyin.....or he overpowered the cyttorak enchantment depend of your point of view but the picture is pretty clear by Stan-Lee himself,and i don't think is a boost juggernaut is stopped clear-cut.......

War Hulk is the dying bannerless Hulk post onslaught incarnation,this hulk is the living nexus/gateway of 2 worlds (heroes reborn earth+earth 616) and powered by these 2 universes+the celestials technology who boosted the hulk own power without the need of the rage factor.........
Apocalypse stated the power this particular Hulk generate can equal the celestials power it's all in the comics,War Hulk is Scary powerful.......
War Hulk need times so WWH need to beat him quickly,really quickly !

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why this isn't in the respect thread but WWH presence was melting Heralds. hmmm from that i think its pretty obvious that he wasnt just standing there and melting people...it was the effect of the his collisions with she rulk. otherwise i dont see how Fin Fang Foon there in the end scan was still non melted from even more powerful versions of the two...

Originally posted by Devron87
Savage Hulk stopped juggernaut in motion sent him flyin.....or he overpowered the cyttorak enchantment depend of your point of view but the picture is pretty clear by Stan-Lee himself,and i don't think is a boost juggernaut is stopped clear-cut.......

War Hulk is the dying bannerless Hulk post onslaught incarnation,this hulk is the living nexus/gateway of 2 worlds (heroes reborn earth+earth 616) and powered by these 2 universes+the celestials technology who boosted the hulk own power without the need of the rage factor.........
Apocalypse stated the power this particular Hulk generate can equal the celestials power it's all in the comics,War Hulk is Scary powerful.......
War Hulk need times so WWH need to beat him quickly,really quickly ! all that talk, and his-on panel feats are arguably a tiny bit "more impressive" than green scar's (who was holding back and didn;t give a rat's ass about juggernaut)

Originally posted by Damborgson
hmmm from that i think its pretty obvious that he wasnt just standing there and melting people...it was the effect of the his collisions with she rulk. otherwise i dont see how Fin Fang Foon there in the end scan was still non melted from even more powerful versions of the two...

I think you got it mixed up. Hulk and Red Shulk collision took place in 634 and the planet was repaired right after this. She Rulk and Hulk was just throwing punches in those scans and everyone around them was disintegrating.

By potential War Hulk is a absolute Beast,but basically the real all around player is WWH.......
in a fight Green Scar is every bit superior to War Hulk i agree with that,and yes WWH holding back and still stalemeted a freshly re-powered Juggernaut who want to trash him,really impressive......still he need to quickly beat War and take the fight seriously,if not..........

Originally posted by carver9
I think you got it mixed up. Hulk and Red Shulk collision took place in 634 and the planet was repaired right after this. She Rulk and Hulk was just throwing punches in those scans and everyone around them was disintegrating. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901478/Incredible_Hulks_635_003.jpg.html looks like they collided again to me. But anyways yeah ur right they are just throwing punches in the other scans. I though you were literally saying that if hulk just stood there everyone would melt around them lol...still very impressive though.

hulk loses.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901478/Incredible_Hulks_635_003.jpg.html looks like they collided again to me. But anyways yeah ur right they are just throwing punches in the other scans. I though you were literally saying that if hulk just stood there everyone would melt around them lol...still very impressive though.


Unless Strange went back to the planet when he left in 634 we know he didn't that is the damage caused by the collision

http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/15034/308bfd150335138.jpg

What this seems to be is him stopping or slowing down time during the explosion as a last ditch effort to talk to Bruce before he left as shown above.

Juggernaut showed well against WWH until Hulk step out of the way. Which seems to me that was the only way to stop Juggs.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Unless Strange went back to the planet when he left in 634 we know he didn't that is the damage caused by the collision

http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/15034/308bfd150335138.jpg

What this seems to be is him stopping or slowing down time during the explosion as a last ditch effort to talk to Bruce before he left as shown above. so its the moment in which they collide during 634 still...ok. Makes sense i guess. Foom and the others were disintegrated from the original attack and then again and again but just from the trading of punches it seems then.

From the way it appears...doesn't look like it was a collision that destroyed the Planet...it was them punching at each other and then this is more proof that planetary destruction doesn't even put a scratch on Hulk.

They were punching each other from what I am seeing.

Originally posted by Damborgson
so its the moment in which they collide during 634 still...ok. Makes sense i guess. Foom and the others were disintegrated from the original attack and then again and again but just from the trading of punches it seems then.


I thing is I don't think they are trading punches at all that whole scene from what I gather is frozen strange stopped time and then sent his astal form to talk to Bruce.

Here he stop's time

http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/15034/53bd23150337542.jpg

These two panels are frozen barring Bruce speaking with Strange if you look at the Hulks from what I gather Betty is frozen throwing a punch at Hulk and that what is shown is the next panel with them the art is weird but IMO that is the intent.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150337705.jpg http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/15034/89f792150337708.jpg

So superior, are you ignoring me?

Originally posted by carver9
So superior, are you ignoring me?

When you give me something of substance to reply to Strange left the dark dimension after Betty and Hulk collided and never went back.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
When you give me something of substance to reply to Strange left the dark dimension after Betty and Hulk collided and never went back.

But we clearly see them punching at each other.

Originally posted by carver9
But we clearly see them punching at each other.


That is not them fighting that is a frozen scene with Betty frozen throwing a punch you can see Bruce describing what happened

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I thing is I don't think they are trading punches at all that whole scene from what I gather is frozen strange stopped time and then sent his astal form to talk to Bruce.

Here he stop's time

http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/15034/53bd23150337542.jpg

These two panels are frozen barring Bruce speaking with Strange if you look at the Hulks from what I gather Betty is frozen throwing a punch at Hulk and that what is shown is the next panel with them the art is weird but IMO that is the intent.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150337705.jpg http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/15034/89f792150337708.jpg I was under the impression that they were battling it out and the astral forms were watching them but reading them again yeah it says that Strange stopped time. Which means that the planet broke in the initial collision and not just the trading punches I assume...works for me.

WW Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I was under the impression that they were battling it out and the astral forms were watching them but reading them again yeah it says that Strange stopped time. Which means that the planet broke in the initial collision and not just the trading punches I assume...works for me.


This the basic time-line I got for this whole thing


Strange opens the portal to earth is knocked in by cho then Hulk and Betty Collided

http://thumbnails52.imagebam.com/15034/a5fac5150339370.jpg http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/15034/76c5b0150339374.jpg


After that while falling he stop time during the destruction and sends an astral projection to speak with Bruce before he leaves him there.You can see him continue his fall in the last panel after he lost concentration



http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/15034/53bd23150339862.jpg http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150339869.jpg http://thumbnails41.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150339885.jpg



Finally we see him on his way to earth I would like to point out if that explosion was not frozen when he was talking to Bruce he would have been killed as we see in the final panel he is not to far away from it.

http://thumbnails45.imagebam.com/15035/308bfd150340300.jpg




Finally on earth.
http://thumbnails38.imagebam.com/15035/f967b5150340528.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
WWH never stopped him. Lol at carver saying Hulk stopped Juggs

he did prevent him from pushing him back though.

celestial tech is overrated but id still give War Hulk the maj

I think WWH wins 7/10

Originally posted by golem370
Juggernaut showed well against WWH until Hulk step out of the way. Which seems to me that was the only way to stop Juggs.

Pretty much.

War Hulk takes this, with ease.

The Green Scar win. Way better fighter, better potential, hundreds of time more cunning.

I don't know about WWH being a better fighter or more cunning. War definitively stopped Juggernaut. I think maybe only Thor's God Blast had managed it before. Then he snuck a tendril around Juggernaut's ankle to throw him away, all before he went "Hey, I have a glowing green sword that channel's my energies too. Lets try it out". War isn't afraid, or unskilled in the use, of his weapons.

He did all this without losing control or getting aggravated. He actually seemed pretty calm throughout the whole tussle. And as Hulk fans like to point out - a relatively calm Banner Hulk amped in a moment during the SW. Why wouldn't this much more powerful/dangerous War be able to do the same, if not more.

Besides. I don't see WWH getting around the Celestial tech and its ability to channel energy. Maybe if Rulk was a Celestial-level threat then we could say that WWH could overload it.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
celestial tech is overrated but id still give War Hulk the maj i read that wrong at first shocklaugh

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i read that wrong at first shocklaugh
did that sentence end with a sexual favour (when you misread it)?

if so ... guess I wasn't the only one to have to read it twice.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I thing is I don't think they are trading punches at all that whole scene from what I gather is frozen strange stopped time and then sent his astal form to talk to Bruce.

Here he stop's time

http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/15034/53bd23150337542.jpg

These two panels are frozen barring Bruce speaking with Strange if you look at the Hulks from what I gather Betty is frozen throwing a punch at Hulk and that what is shown is the next panel with them the art is weird but IMO that is the intent.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150337705.jpg http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/15034/89f792150337708.jpg

They were in different stances...they were throwing punches and time SLOWED but didn't stop. They show the bullrush and then you see them fighting afterwards.

Hulk time on planet skaar, has accumulated many battle experiences and perspective, than the War Hulk, I dare say WWH is more cunning.

Originally posted by carver9
They were in different stances...they were throwing punches and time SLOWED but didn't stop. They show the bullrush and then you see them fighting afterwards.


Yes Carver both Bruce Banner and Doctor Strange are lying when they say that time was stopped I get it.

Let assume for a moment that time was slowed how does the help your case at all Strange stopped time moments after Hulk and Betty collided the destruction is the result of that collision its not a separate event.


I provided a timeline to back up my case which I add you conveniently ignored while making this response.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
This the basic time-line I got for this whole thing


Strange opens the portal to earth is knocked in by cho then Hulk and Betty Collided

http://thumbnails52.imagebam.com/15034/a5fac5150339370.jpg http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/15034/76c5b0150339374.jpg


After that while falling he stop time during the destruction and sends an astral projection to speak with Bruce before he leaves him there.You can see him continue his fall in the last panel after he lost concentration



http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/15034/53bd23150339862.jpg http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150339869.jpg http://thumbnails41.imagebam.com/15034/50377a150339885.jpg



Finally we see him on his way to earth I would like to point out if that explosion was not frozen when he was talking to Bruce he would have been killed as we see in the final panel he is not to far away from it.

http://thumbnails45.imagebam.com/15035/308bfd150340300.jpg




Finally on earth.
http://thumbnails38.imagebam.com/15035/f967b5150340528.jpg


I mean do you even read these comics or do you just look at the scans that people post.I only thing you have to fall back on here is some weird art that can be explained by one being a far off shot and the other being a close up.

"WWH" wins

War hulk tore his own implants (pause) out, so i assume normal hulk could, not to mention he still retains the memory of being war and how he quit the position i would also assume

WW Hulk is stronger than War Hulk.

My reason for saying this is simple, The Juggernaut used War Hulk like a plow, whereas WW Hulk was only pushed back a few inches. This shows how much stronger WW Hulk was than War Hulk, and as for the Juggernaut trading punches with WW Hulk... Well there was simply not enough to speak of in terms of the Hulk actually wanting to engage the Juggernaut in combat.