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Hayato of Plasma Sword and every version of Gouki, combined takes on mini pyron.

If the team wins, they have to fight each other........to the death!

What can Hayato do?

Questions that need answers before this thread can be properly debated.

Composite Akuma

1. Every other Akuma isn't really a factor. Sliver Akuma, Cyber Akuma and CFE Akuma combined are all that matters. With some of the PC, how fast would he be?

Hayato

2. What does it mean when a guy turns into a beam of light on a motorcycle and ride thru space?

3. He's much more powerful than a character who vapes cities with ease and randomly appears across the galaxy. As if he were in 2 places at once. Is he FTL?

4. He fought in a black hole. How durable is he?

6. Hayato's max Plasma Power output is 1/10 of what's necessary to obliterate a planet like Earth. How much destruction is Hayato dealin in fight?

I really don't feel like stackin all that up against Pyron, right now anyway. Maybe later.

Originally posted by stargun
What can Hayato do?

He's FTL and he's quite a bit stronger than a guy who could ruin the state of the universe in under 25 years.

Originally posted by No End N Site

1. Every other Akuma isn't really a factor. Sliver Akuma, Cyber Akuma and CFE Akuma combined are all that matters. With some of the PC, how fast would he be?

2. What does it mean when a guy turns into a beam of light on a motorcycle and ride thru space?


4. He fought in a black hole. How durable is he?


Don't forget SVC Gouki. He jumped into Heaven to challenge God and punched a hole down to hell and kicked the ass of demons. Some of the PC would bring Gouki to basic herald level and he would at least be as fast as light.

I'm pretty sure that's just the tech of the bike.

He fought IN a black hole, not NEAR it. I think you're relatively safe in a black hole.

It seems like Hayato is mid herald level at least. In any case Pyron should be able to take care of them both with energy manipulation alone.

Imho, Pyron is still way faster than any of'em. They have the power and devastation levels to hang but I don't see'em being fast enough to catch'im.

Then again, idk. He did lose to a version of Demitri that I doubt could be any of them.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Then again, idk. He did lose to a version of Demitri that I doubt could be any of them. Well if the Darkstalkers comics are canon as many people say then it wasn't Demitri who defeated Pyron but instead Anita. Only thing Demitri did was trick Pyron and dry him out of energy while he has already been weakened, though as for the fight Pyron dominated not only him but also Morrigan and Donovan.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-008.jpg
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Originally posted by stargun
Well if the Darkstalkers comics are canon as many people say then it wasn't Demitri who defeated Pyron but instead Anita. Only thing Demitri did was trick Pyron and dry him out of energy while he has already been weakened, though as for the fight Pyron dominated not only him but also Morrigan and Donovan.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-008.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-009.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-010.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-011.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-012.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-013.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-014.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-015.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-016.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-017.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Your-Humble-Superior/Darkstalkers-03-pg-018.jpg

UDON says everything they write and draw has to be approved by the original creators 1st, but the comics are not canon. They only have to portray the characters correctly. Some events shown display canon events because some instances are stated to happen in canon. But as far as Demitri's victory over Pyron, it is canon. Anita's is not.

The powers are canon, but the events that took place are not. Iirc, the only thing they didn't take liberties with were character origins.

Just curious, but does anyone have exact proof Demitri killed and consumed Pyron? Because I could of sworn Morrigan was the one who consumed him in her ending...

Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
Just curious, but does anyone have exact proof Demitri killed and consumed Pyron? Because I could of sworn Morrigan was the one who consumed him in her ending...

Saiki
In the end, he was defeated by Demitri and was consumed by him.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583725-darkstalkers/faqs/25007

Demitri's ending
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwdemi.htm

It is also stated that Demitri was actually the main character of the first 1 N' 1/2 Darkstalkers games. So naturally, they would follow his ending.

Do you have actual solid statements from Capcom on what's the "canon" ending? I don't see Demitri consuming ANYONE in the vg link.

There is........and there isn't such a statement. It is stated, but it's in Japanese. Saiki and crew have assembled to translate the source books, all of which, I actually own. However, out of 5 source books, only one has been translated to English.

However, if you choose not to trust them. You can come to the same conclusion of Demitri consuming Pyron through simple process of deduction, if you are adequately informed of the plot.

Demitri is nearly killed and banished to the human world. He states that when he regains full power, he will return to Makai. Keep in mind that Demitri, at 80% power, is capable of creating an aura that would protect him from sunlight. Also remember that Demitri at 100% is in full demon form, which he is not, in the first canon game. Upon Pyron's arrival, Demitri is at 80%. In his ending it stated that he is "stronger than ever". So now he is stronger than ever before, after taking part in a battle where he was weaker than ever before. You don't gain power in battle, you use/lose it. Obviously, one can come to the conclusion on their own, that he consumed Pyron. This is backed up by Saiki's own translation of Japanese books. The two clearly correlate. To show that Demitri's ending is indeed canon, his ending says, just like what his bio states, he will return to Makai when his power is restored. He returns to Makai in his ending and learns that Belial is dead. Fast forward to Vampire Savior. As stated in Demitri's Night Warriors ending, Belial is dead and Demitri has returned to Makai. Not only this, Jedah's boss is Demitri. Demitri then takes part in a new battle, with new found power, in a new place, he would not be if his NW ending were not canon. I know this from just one of the source books, which go hand and hand with Saiki's faq, without Capcom even needing to say anything in English.