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http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/us/california-robbery-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t2



It goes on to say that the case of the two burglars is under review but neither have been arrested.

Well...


I think those young men should get a fine equivalent to the damages and property. No jail time or anything silly like that. The fine should be paid to an appropriate outlet like chid abuse foundations or something.

I have to wonder how they came to the decision to blow the whistle.

If they weighed things out and hoped that they'd get leniency for their crimes due to a good deed or if they just didn't think about it.

There are some criminals dumb enough to report crimes that end up recursively implicating them after all.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I have to wonder how they came to the decision to blow the whistle.

If they weighed things out and hoped that they'd get leniency for their crimes due to a good deed or if they just didn't think about it.

There are some criminals dumb enough to report crimes that end up recursively implicating them after all. Imagine if they were arrested for theft... and then caught with child porn. That's not going to go well.

Would have been much worse then getting a slap on the wrist for burglary... with the added bonus of getting a paedo caught.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I have to wonder how they came to the decision to blow the whistle.

If they weighed things out and hoped that they'd get leniency for their crimes due to a good deed or if they just didn't think about it.

There are some criminals dumb enough to report crimes that end up recursively implicating them after all.

Well, they could be the "good" criminals. Meaning, they have decent morals and they care about kids.

actually, thinking about it, I wonder if they could have reported, yet, declined to comment on how they obtained the material on the grounds it would violate their protection against self incrimination....

Originally posted by inimalist
this

To be honest I doubt there such a cynical calculus was the primary motivation. Dislike of pedophiles is very much ingrained into our culture.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
To be honest I doubt there such a cynical calculus was the primary motivation. Dislike of pedophiles is very much ingrained into our culture.

sure, I'm not saying there wasn't some motivation to nab the pedo

I'd be surprised if that didn't come into the calculus though: "we do X if we get caught for stealing, we do X^10 if we get caught for child porn"

IRONY!

-have them serve time for the crime

-reward them for catching a pedophile

-execute the pedophile

Justice is served, life goes on and everyone is happy.

Originally posted by Robtard
-have them serve time for the crime

-reward them for catching a pedophile

-execute the pedophile

Justice is served, life goes on and everyone is happy.

you think a minor should serve time for breaking into a shed and stealing CDs?

Originally posted by Robtard
-have them serve time for the crime

-reward them for catching a pedophile

-execute the pedophile

Justice is served, life goes on and everyone is happy.

cue scotty's scottish accent..

"but there's a flaw in your second statement, sir. they could they use the money for bail and flee the country, captian."

Reminds me of Donnie Darko. Donnie burns the one dude's house down and child pornography is found while the cops are investigating.

I wonder why they wouldn't just leave it as an anonymous tip? Is it cause the evidence of the child pornography can't be used due to the fact it was stolen? It seems to me, they probably just expected praise for it, and should probably receive it.

The pedo will likely get a reduced sentence or have his case thrown out because he'll claim the evidence against him was unlawfully acquired. The honest thieves will probably get 25 to life.

evidence laws only apply to the police. since the police didn't steal it, and had it turned into them, it would be admissible afaik.

if he denied the evidence was his, it might be a harder case to prove, but the accusation alone will be probable cause to search his computers and internet history.

The case would be incredibly difficult to make on the CDs alone even if they were not stolen, as it becomes a he said/she said, and the burglars themselves face the possibility of "possessing child porn" charges in a scenario like that

Yeah that makes sense. I could very well see this evolving into a he/she said predicament.
It just doesn't seem like enough to convict the pedophile, unless they obtain evidence from his other computers/internet history.

Well, you could pretty much solve the whole case without ever having to access that pedos computers, at all.

Just subpoena the ISP and match IPs/MAC addresses to the data trail on the CDs. (You just have to time stamp match the address assignments with the data on the CDs). Almost always, there's data left that will give browsing history information of some sort such as website visited, website the information comes from, etccccccc.



Boom, bust down the door, sodomize him with a night stick, and put him in cuffs (lol).

provided he got the material on the CDs online of course. You'd still want to check the computers for latent files/links to the CDs

Originally posted by inimalist
provided he got the material on the CDs online of course. You'd still want to check the computers for latent files/links to the CDs

If the scenario you're implying exists, then there's no way at all to trace them back to him. At all.

In other words, mailed to him...anonymously in an unmarked package that he had the smarts to burn and then clean the CDs.


But, far more often than not, he got it from the interwebz. Ordered or direct dl.

This sounds more like faith stepping in, rather then it being a coincidence that the CDs were found. Some course of action should be taken for the breaking and entering, but nothing to harsh, being that they possibly exposed a future or current pedophile.

1.Reward the kids

2.Execute the Pedophile

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C


2.Execute the Pedophile
Seems terribly excessive. It's not as if he was (so far as we know) kidnapping children and forcing them to participate before murdering them.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
2.Execute the Pedophile
We're not even sure if he forced the kids to have smex with him.

If the kids voluntarily allowed themselves to be deprived, then it's not the pedo's fault, assuming the kids he smexed with were around 12 and older. 12-year-olds these days SHOULD be able to distinguish right from wrong. Otherwise, he should serve jailtime.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
We're not even sure if he forced the kids to have smex with him.

If the kids voluntarily allowed themselves to be deprived, then it's not the pedo's fault, assuming the kids he smexed with were around 12 and older. 12-year-olds these days SHOULD be able to distinguish right from wrong. Otherwise, he should serve jailtime.
There's not even evidence he had sex with any kids...

...all that we know is that he owned child porn.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
...all that we know is that he owned child porn.

according to the testimony of admitted criminals

Originally posted by inimalist
you think a minor should serve time for breaking into a shed and stealing CDs?

Pretty sure it's still trespassing, possible breaking-and-entering and stealing. Now if the law says that isn't worthy of some time in juvenile detention, so be it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
cue scotty's scottish accent..

"but there's a flaw in your second statement, sir. they could they use the money for bail and flee the country, captian."

No, what I said was linear. The reward comes after time served.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I have to wonder how they came to the decision to blow the whistle.

If they weighed things out and hoped that they'd get leniency for their crimes due to a good deed or if they just didn't think about it.

There are some criminals dumb enough to report crimes that end up recursively implicating them after all.

It's because being capable of general criminal deliquencies and being capable of a sex crime are worlds apart. Someone who may have no remorse robbing someone wouldn't hesitate to stop or report a predator.

Everyone looks down on sexual predators even murderers. That's why jail's are made up of two primary sections, general population and protective custody for sexual criminals, it let's you know you really are a piece of shit when even the most low bottom criminals who have no problem associating with each other want to beat the shit out of you.