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If this can really happen... I cannot stand LaBeouf.

I just LOVE the hypo-criticism behind this entire thing. Just before this, they claimed that they would not reboot the entire franchise. However, this in itself screams reboot. I apologize for any fans out there that have not seen the third installment, but they've killed off EVERY MOTHERF***ING DECEPTICON!!!! I cannot stress this enough! Even if they resurrect Megatron and turn him into Galvatron, there are no Decepticons to back him up! Even Cybertron got killed off!! So how in the world, no, universe, could they not call this a reboot? And for those who claim that Unicron will bring his forces back, he won't. Those people who've done the previous Transformers movies say that attempting something of THAT scale will not happen from them, and they are the ones who will be with Bay for all his movies. They just won't do it.

So Jason Statham will be doing it now

a while back he denied it.

Well maybe the strategy is to increase the levels of acting in the Baybots by completely replacing the humans with actors so wooden that literally anything looks like a sincere and convincing performance next to them...

Also from what i've ready Bay has'nt got plans to do a 4th movie he's gonna make some another movie, 'Pain & Gain' is the name of the movie

The pain of the audience for his and his partners' financial gain?

Dun dun duuuuuuuun

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168985-michael-bay-to-return-for-transformers-4

http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/mika-with-gun-in-mouthWEB.jpg


Originally posted by Kazenji
Dun dun duuuuuuuun

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168985-michael-bay-to-return-for-transformers-4







Well well well I guess none of us could see THAT coming......

I'm taking my childhood, my money, my intelligence, my dignity and running farrrrrrrr away when this comes out, so that they will not be assaulted in any way by hollywood's franchise-integrity-rape-gangs when they mount their coming 4th assault.

It will most likely be 80% plothole like the others, scripted by baboons, acted to new standards of woodenness, and will mostly be centered on the humans in keeping with everything these people have done so far. Prepare for more deep wang.

everybody needs to realize that every single one of these hollywood dicks want nothing more than to make sh!t they can merchandise.. happy meal toys, limited (or so they say) toy lines, video games, pajamas, lead-laden cups and other cheap made-in-china sh!t.. they don't care about the fans or what the fan wants or what actually makes a good movie, i don't care what they say or how sincere they appear.. it's all about the greenbacks, son.. more merchandise, more royalties, more monies..

Yeah a lot of people still don't get it yet.

People will drop their shit when the 1st trailer comes out and then they'll be ensnared for a fourth time.

It's true. He's baaaaaccckkkk...

http://collider.com/michael-bay-transformers-4/130854/

Not that I'm complaining. I'm not a real fan of Michael Bay's other movies, but he does Transformers films just fine by me.

He does bayformers sometimes...


(When hes not missing the point by focusing on the trials and tribulations of the humans)

Who would you turn the series over to? Roland Emmerich, who came in second place to direct the first film years ago?

Heh. Most likely not....but at least the visual side would probably look good....maybe if he didn't have to get non cheese performances from actors it'd be cool.

Maybe Christopher Nolan or maybe James Cameron?

Originally posted by lordmegatron1
I just LOVE the hypo-criticism behind this entire thing. Just before this, they claimed that they would not reboot the entire franchise. However, this in itself screams reboot. I apologize for any fans out there that have not seen the third installment, but they've killed off EVERY MOTHERF***ING DECEPTICON!!!! I cannot stress this enough! Even if they resurrect Megatron and turn him into Galvatron, there are no Decepticons to back him up! Even Cybertron got killed off!! So how in the world, no, universe, could they not call this a reboot? And for those who claim that Unicron will bring his forces back, he won't. Those people who've done the previous Transformers movies say that attempting something of THAT scale will not happen from them, and they are the ones who will be with Bay for all his movies. They just won't do it.

They didn't 'kill off' Cybertron; it just went back through the dimensional gateway to where it was before when the space bridge collapsed.

And since Michael Bay is now returning, it should mean they will continue the story established thus far. And the demand is till there for Unicron and the Dinobots to get in these; maybe that's what they will do with back to back sequels.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Heh. Most likely not....but at least the visual side would probably look good....maybe if he didn't have to get non cheese performances from actors it'd be cool.

Maybe Christopher Nolan or maybe James Cameron?


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Anyway, I'm down for Jason Stathan as the main dude. Shia was the absolute worst part of the prior movies; so as long as he's out of it I don't care.

Whaddya mean " " ..?

LeBeouf was just the heady surface pimple of a volcano of pus and bile.

Are you seriously asserting that Revenge of the Fallen's only problem was LeBeouf?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Whaddya mean " " ..?Transformers at its heart is a children's show with some mature themes sprinkled in. Someone like Christopher Nolan and James Nolan wouldn't even know what to do with a movie like Transformers. Transformers should be an action packed popcorn flick, nothing more. When was the last time you saw Chris Nolan or James Cameron make an incredible fight scene? Never. Batman, Aliens, T2 and Avatar are the most "actiony" of all their films, but even in those movies, the actual fight scenes themselves were average, at best.

He wasn't the only problem with the movies, sure, but on the other hand, he''s the only thing that really grated on me throughout all the movies. He literally ruined in the second and third movie for me.

Like, were there other things wrong with the movies? Sure, giant robot balls and gangsterbots are stupid, but all of the most game breaking issues with the movie centered around Shia Ledouche., Take him out of the equation and the movies suddenly become tolerable. No retarded college scenes, no retarded parent scenes, no love triangles, no retarded co-worker scenes. Sounds fan****ingtastic.

As for things like keeping true to the Transformers canon, I could give less than a shit. I'm not a diehard transformers fan.

Firstly, thank you for eloborating.

The cartoon may have been as you describe..
The comic was a bit edgier.
And if that was true, why the masturbation gags, sex references/deep wang etc a feature?
Another big problem was the writing and director, script/performances wise and the fact that he uses the movies as a military recruitment drive, and centers the story round humans the whole time......lets say for argument's sake that it had been Leonardo DiCaprio or Matt Damon or hahahah Jason Statham lolz, instead of LeBeouf......the focus on the triviality of the humans instead of the warring Cybertronians was the problem.
It was effectively "the humans dating show movie/military ad" movie occasionally featuring generic robot "characters"...
Bad writing/concept.

This "the US military pwns all" message is all pervasive in the Bayformers movies, yet is completely absent in all the original stuff.
Whats the point of autobots being here if the Pentagon can take them out virtually at will.
Big plotholes like: Why did they not nuke chigago in the 3rd film..? Coulda taken out Megatron, Shockwave, most of the decepticons right there and then but noooooooooooooo...

Its not about how canonistic it is, it was about how shite the chosen deviation from that canon ended up being.
The original comic story had a lot that "nothing more than popcorn flick" so who say it should be "nothing more"?
OK, to be fair, Star Wars was also a big popcorn opus too, but that ruled.

And regarding fight scenes etc: Nolan and Cameron may not have been familiar with the orginal stuff, yet Bay wasnt either. And he didnt like the idea. After T1/T2/Avatar I could see Cameron doing well, paired with the special effects boys' efforts.
Nolan can direct action and coax performances from the actors.
So no problem there, once familiarity with the subject matter is learned. They are both talented at making movies, not just commercials, which Bay's talent has been limited to for a long time indeed.
Its not like I cited Kubrick as the series' ideal director...
when so much of the movie was done by the CGI boys, any director with ILM could arguably do that stuff these days...

http://cdn.the-gutters.com/comics/a6dea546eb5681e90301b9e9dcb3d89dd6a8f2ea.jpg

Yeah that reminds me of those creepy Arcee lines in season 3.

Michael Bay promotes Transformers limited edition boxset

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=52691

Same punch in the face, different bow wrapped around it.

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Originally posted by Kazenji
Michael Bay promotes Transformers limited edition boxset

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=52691

What a jerk-off. However, I will say that some of that behind the scenes footage looked pretty interesting.

MICHAEL BAY CONFIRMS TRANSFORMERS 4 RELEASE DATE

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/169581-michael-bay-confirms-transformers-4-release-date

Oh well.

He needs better scriptwriters ones that don't involve dick and fart jokes.

Well maybe this might be worth a look.. If hes having a fresh start, then I'm interested to see what he has in mind.

Originally posted by Kazenji
You also do realize that they also only had only 15 pages for Revenge of the Fallen since that Writers strike was going on at the time.

That didn't matter for the 3rd movie which blew just as much as the 2nd.

It blew less for me.

Man, there's alot of "my opinion is law" goin' on in this thread. That got old pretty fast, around the time the second film came out. My usual understanding is that if something sucked the first time, let alone the second time, coming back for a third helping makes sense?? I'd stay the f*ck away, but that's just me. The TF trilogy was an entertaining little romp, that's all it was being marketed as, I surely hope no one expected Oscar worthy acting in them. It's a movie about toys, come on now.

Nothing wrong with wanting a good story to go along with a movie, I've come across a few people who want (demand) a rated-R live-action TF movie that takes place completely on Cybertron with Oscar worthy voice-casting and a star studded cast. Yeeeaahhh, don't see that happening, like ever. So we make the best with what we have, even if it may be a steaming turd to some.

I'm hoping that this reboot or whatever churns out action like what we saw in the forest fight scene. Because it's Bay returning and such, I know what to expect. I wouldn't go watch a Tyler Perry movie, then leave the theater complaining the film was shit because it featured a dude in drag pretending to be an overly stereotypical african-american woman. S'all good to sit there and diarrea from the mouth stuff we didn't like about films and such, though it amazes me how it goes on, and on, and on, and on. I usually move on to other steamy piles of crap that need to be verbally judged based on my perseption. You guys should see the folks I work with, they still discuss on a daily basis how much the Bloodrayne films sucked. I'm like: You Twatbadgers still saw the second one?? What the fu-!?

My hope of this reboot being different than what's been served before is quite small, especially since the writer is coming from the last three.

Can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but is Statham really going to star in this? Cos I've grown tired of him doing the same forward kick against a bad guy while making a stupid-tough-guy-face, can't see it working in line with a bunch of robots.

He's not, that rumor started because he's dating the chick from TF3, there's a few articles stating he said he wasn't.

Now Bay is saying Transformers 4 will be his last......

deja vu anyone?

Immeasurable amounts of the stuff.

Last time we saw it of that magnitude, we were dealing with Punxatauny Phil.

Michael Bay on Transformers 4's plot, cast and budget

Mark Wahlberg could be the lead role for number 4


http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mark-Wahlberg-Considering-Lead-Role-Transformers-4-33746.html

Wahlberg is onboard and here's the official logo

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1025/22830101513180590267881.jpg

Cool. Now i'll know what to look for when maybe just renting it on DVD, when it comes out on that format.
Last time they had half the cast of the Cohen bros movies AND Leonard Nimoy and we still got deep wang'd as we sat by to hear classic lines from Wrath of Khan get mutilated horribly.

So with maximum respect to Mr.Wahlberg, this does not excite me.

Bay's saying movie number 4 will take place 4 years after the 3rd movie.

No time travel back to 83/84 then.....

Deep wang.
Deep wang indeed.

4 years is no time in which to be able to rebuild cybertron..

I hope Walhberg is playing a brand new character and not a grown up Sam Witwicky.

I don't know whether or not my sources are correct, but it seems as though MB might only be doing a TF4 movie, and might not even do a fifth installment afterwards. What do you think?

Feels like Deju vu if that's the case.

Yes.

sweet.

Kelsey Grammer to play the villain

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/frasier-star-kelsey-grammer-to-play-villain-in-transformers/306940

Mark Wahlberg's character name revealed as Flynn Vincent.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=79822

What new Autobots & Decepticons may appear

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=104602


Dinobots & Galvatron?

New & Improved Optimus's truck from

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=80439

it's definitely new.. not sure if it's improved though..

Transofmers rocks!

Set Photos: Better Look At Mark Wahlberg's Sword

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=84646

Hope they manage to improve in these movies. I wonder if they're going to either bring Megatron back or introduce Unicron.

Leaked Call Sheet Confirms Dinobots, Cyclonus, Drift, Crosshairs & More
Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=85948#Az44DvQMFBU5Kxxz.99

Optimus Prime Audio....maybe spoilers regarding the ending

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=89148

A look at Drifts robot mode

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=92991

But... he's supposed to be a *ninja* robot, not a samurai robot!

Know what, **** it. I'll see this movie. I'll even pay premium theater ticket money for it.

Mark Wahlberg is running around with a hooge-phuck sword. I'm not even a Marky Mark fan, but that alone makes the movie worth seeing.

The only way this could get any better is if Tom Cruise had a role.