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Count Nefaria- Classic all Avengers breaker

VS

Etrigan- Classic mythical beast

Ions or incantations?

Classic Nefaria seemed all but immune to magic based attacks when Thor hit him with lightning, and I think Nefaria beats him in the strength dept.

When did it state he was immune to ALL magic? Cause Etrigan is a top tier mage.

Nefaria.

What happens if Etrigan BFR to hell? An all out Etrigan has too many options.

What happens if Nefaria beats the crap out of him? sneer

Nefaria wrecked the Avengers and proved stronger than thor, even thor admitted he could not lift that skyscraper like nefaria did. He even knocked about 20 avengers off of him when they tried to dogpile him where as even superman was koed by a far smaller group when they dogpiles him. Nefaria wins this with ease baring pis.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank What happens if Nefaria beats the crap out of him? sneer

base levels, sure, but classic etrigan was a top tier mage, who can tap into some real power. the som wasnt able to defeat etrigan when he tapped into the stonehenge. current nefaria would be worse for him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Classic Nefaria seemed all but immune to magic based attacks when Thor hit him with lightning, and I think Nefaria beats him in the strength dept.

How do we know that was magical lightening and not just "regular" lightening? Etrigan is, what we call in RPGs, a tank mage, LITERALLY. He takes this but that doesn't mean CN can't get wins. Etrigan 6/10.

Nefaria has no counter for something like battle field removal. That's assuming Etrigan tries it instead of just going punch for punch. If he does, he gets torn apart.

Originally posted by zopzop
How do we know that was magical lightening and not just "regular" lightening? Etrigan is, what we call in RPGs, a tank mage, LITERALLY. He takes this but that doesn't mean CN can't get wins. Etrigan 6/10.


Good question can't say it was, but can't say it wasn't either. However Mjolnir itself is a magical item, and was nearly useless against Nefaria as well. Could Etrigan no sell a hit from it without being visibly shaken? Etrigan may take it with magic, but up close in H2H combat, I give this to Nefaria. Nefaria has the speed to make this H2H as well. Just a thought.

Originally posted by Stoic Good question can't say it was, but can't say it wasn't either. However Mjolnir itself is a magical item, and was nearly useless against Nefaria as well. Could Etrigan no sell a hit from it without being visibly shaken? Etrigan may take it with magic, but up close in H2H combat, I give this to Nefaria. Nefaria has the speed to make this H2H as well. Just a thought.

etrigan can tap into linitless magic. and its not like thor was using spells like etrigan can.

etrigan was strong enough and fast enough to punch a charging superman to the moon. that is, quite literally, one of the greatest punches i've ever read in a comicbook. he could CERTAINLY go h2h with the count, though he probably wouldn't win that way. oddly, the classic count was most afraid of wanda and her magic. etrigan could definitely affect him that way imo, and i see his hellfire working just fine. at the least he could win 10/10 via bfr. etrigan would give the count hell, like he would give most heralds.

Originally posted by leonidas
etrigan was strong enough and fast enough to punch a charging superman to the moon. that is, quite literally, one of the greatest punches i've ever read in a comicbook. he could CERTAINLY go h2h with the count, though he probably wouldn't win that way. oddly, the classic count was most afraid of wanda and her magic. etrigan could definitely affect him that way imo, and i see his hellfire working just fine. at the least he could win 10/10 via bfr. etrigan would give the count hell, like he would give most heralds. The count threw off a bigger avengers team where as superman was beaten badly by a smaller avengers team. Etrigan is not going h2h with the count.

etrigan took on the sentinels of magic plus martian manhunter. that team was greater than the avengers easily. etrigan tapping into his power is a beast and above top tier.

lets not forget what etrigan did in starlins cosmic oddysey.

Originally posted by maxwell44
The count threw off a bigger avengers team where as superman was beaten badly by a smaller avengers team. Etrigan is not going h2h with the count.

he took on wonderman, classic ironman and vision. and a wanda who's powers were out of whack iirc. none of them are as strong as etrigan. or have his magic. or his durability. when thor faced him 1on1 the fight was pretty much a draw. etrigan could absolutely go h2h with nefaria, though, as i said, i don't see him winning that way.

and superman.....? you mean the team beat him after thor put him through the ringer?? not sure i get the comparison at all. kal would have done as well (at least) as the count did against that avengers team. and don't forget--that team BEAT nefaria in the end. WITHOUT thor.....

Originally posted by zopzop
How do we know that was magical lightening and not just "regular" lightening? Etrigan is, what we call in RPGs, a tank mage, LITERALLY. He takes this but that doesn't mean CN can't get wins. Etrigan 6/10.

And Nefaria didn't seem immune to Scarlet Witch. And, Etrigans hell fire has hurt all kinds of high end magic types, including the team beating Quagmire big bad from Obsidian Age.

IMO, Nefaria's durability is overrated.. Thor was fighting fairly evenly with him, was no doubt using a third of his strength like always, and he certainly has greater strength feats than lifting a skyscraper, so calling PIS on Thor considering Nef stronger.

If you put a high class 100 brick like Black Adam, Lobo, or Doomsday in Nefaria's place, I'd bet money they could perform similarly against the teams Nefaria fought, under similar circumstances..

Originally posted by leonidas
he took on wonderman, classic ironman and vision. and a wanda who's powers were out of whack iirc. none of them are as strong as etrigan. or have his magic. or his durability. when thor faced him 1on1 the fight was pretty much a draw. etrigan could absolutely go h2h with nefaria, though, as i said, i don't see him winning that way.

and superman.....? you mean the team beat him after thor put him through the ringer?? not sure i get the comparison at all. kal would have done as well (at least) as the count did against that avengers team. and don't forget--that team BEAT nefaria in the end. WITHOUT thor..... Nefaria battled thor too.

Count, he's a team buster.

CN

Originally posted by cdtm And Nefaria didn't seem immune to Scarlet Witch. And, Etrigans hell fire has hurt all kinds of high end magic types, including the team beating Quagmire big bad from Obsidian Age. IMO, Nefaria's durability is overrated.. Thor was fighting fairly evenly with him, was no doubt using a third of his strength like always, and he certainly has greater strength feats than lifting a skyscraper, so calling PIS on Thor considering Nef stronger. If you put a high class 100 brick like Black Adam, Lobo, or Doomsday in Nefaria's place, I'd bet money they could perform similarly against the teams Nefaria fought, under similar circumstances..

if he was worried about sw, etrigan would do well with his magic.