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Never die never surrender cobra cai. You know what to do.

Good fight. Void wins.

Thanos kills The Void.

Thanos matter manipulates him.

Originally posted by carver9
Good fight. Void wins. How ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How ?

By overpowering him. By being nonkillable unless he wants to be killed...by being more powerful. Give Thanos prep, he wins.

Originally posted by carver9
By overpowering him. By being nonkillable unless he wants to be killed...by being more powerful. Give Thanos prep, he wins. When has Void shown he is beyond the reach of Death itself, ie the Abstract which Thanos is connected to as Avatar.

Originally posted by carver9
By overpowering him. By being nonkillable unless he wants to be killed...by being more powerful. Give Thanos prep, he wins. Thanos is immune to death. What's nonkillable ? You do realize this is going to end for you well, right ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is immune to death. What's nonkillable ? You do realize this is going to end for you well, right ?

Thanos can be koed and Void has the power to do so. Void is overall more powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos can be koed and Void has the power to do so. Void is overall more powerful. It took a cosmic cube to only just ko a weakend Thanos

And againOriginally posted by Nihilist
When has Void shown he is beyond the reach of Death itself, ie the Abstract which Thanos is connected to as Avatar.

Originally posted by Nihilist
It took a cosmic cube to only just ko a weakend Thanos

And again It took a Cosmic Cube blast to knock Thanos' madness from him and leave him open for a telepathic assault.

He wasn't KO'ed from the blast but from the telepaths.

thanos....despite all the hoopla, void really hasnt shown us anything

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos kills The Void.

No, only Robert kills the Void.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thanos matter manipulates him.

LOL, you don't have a clue, do you.
Molecule Man, the master of the molecules said that he never experienced something like Sentry's molecules and lost in the end. What makes you think that Thanos can achieve more with his matter manipulation? Because he made Champion go away? Leave it be.

Originally posted by Nihilist
When has Void shown he is beyond the reach of Death itself, ie the Abstract which Thanos is connected to as Avatar.

Like every time he returned back from the dead? O_o

Sentry is immortal, face it. The only way he is gone now, is because Robert decided not to return to save the world from the ever returning Void.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is immune to death. What's nonkillable ? You do realize this is going to end for you well, right ?

Why did you create this thread in the first place? Do you think you're awesome?
There is more then enough content for you to deal with in the "Sentry vs Lord Marvell" thread.
Coming into a thread and saying: "Thanos wins" won't bring you far. It is not going to end for you well, do you understand that?

Sentry won't defeat AOD Thanos, yet AOD Thanos won't defeat the Sentry. It's a stalemate, because they both can't die.

Let Thanos face a regular Sentry, whose immortality is a part of his very own powerset and what then? He would lose it. Not mainly because of Sentry's immortality, but because of the many more advantages.

Is Thanos going to molecule manipulate the crap out of the Sentry? Hell no, since Sentry is superior in that area.

Is Thanos going to energy blast Sentry into oblivion? Hell no, since Sentry can operate on a higher rate.

Is Thanos going to come up with some fancy abilities to get rid of the Sentry? Probably even here a hell no, since Sentry already redirected energy without even knowing what it was. He is that awesome.

Is Thanos going to speedblitz Sentry into oblivion? LOL!

Is Thanos going to overpower Sentry physically? Even if Thanos is stronger (yet he actually lacks the lifting feats to prove his strenght level), he will be way too slow to actually tag the Sentry.

Is Thanos going to outlast Sentry with the force fields? Something Doctor Doom was not able to, something Reed Richards was not able to? I don't think so. Hell no!

Is Thanos going to BFR the Sentry? Hell No, since Sentry can fly at speeds beyond the speed of light and he can even teleport.

Is Thanos going to mind-rape the Sentry? Hell No, since Sentry was basically never defeated by the usage of telepathy. Emma Frost and Xavier were not able to attack him mentally to protect the X-Men. They had to combine their efforts to even enter the White Room Emma once built in Sentry's mind with Sentry's permission. That's about it.

There is basically nothing Thanos can do. Thanos probably has the durability in the end on his side and there is no doubt that he has the intellect and the prep-advantage, yet in a random encounter his main advantages are away. His shields wouldn't hold off the Sentry and his durability would have to take all the damage Sentry can inflict and that is a lot.

But even the prep-advantage? What is he going to do? Doctor Doom doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, Tony Stark doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, Reed Richards doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry.
Thanos coming up with a way would be a new plot-device, yaaay, basically something what restrained the Sentry so often in the past, like for example where Hammond overloaded him with a little bit fire, LoL and BFR'ed the Sentry.
Stupid writing at it's finest, if we think about Sentry's power set and how he was standing in front of the sun and in the sun multiple times.

Thanos intellect would give him some room to breath, but only if Thanos decides to set one foot in front of the other, until he is gone.

Sentry has never been killed by DEATH the Abstract itself claiming him, which Thanos is connected too, which is fact.

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, only Robert kills the Void.



LOL, you don't have a clue, do you.
Molecule Man, the master of the molecules said that he never experienced something like Sentry's molecules and lost in the end. What makes you think that Thanos can achieve more with his matter manipulation? Because he made Champion go away? Leave it be.



Like every time he returned back from the dead? O_o

Sentry is immortal, face it. The only way he is gone now, is because Robert decided not to return to save the world from the ever returning Void.



Why did you create this thread in the first place? Do you think you're awesome?
There is more then enough content for you to deal with in the "Sentry vs Lord Marvell" thread.
Coming into a thread and saying: "Thanos wins" won't bring you far. It is not going to end for you well, do you understand that?

Sentry won't defeat AOD Thanos, yet AOD Thanos won't defeat the Sentry. It's a stalemate, because they both can't die.

Let Thanos face a regular Sentry, whose immortality is a part of his very own powerset and what then? He would lose it. Not mainly because of Sentry's immortality, but because of the many more advantages.

Is Thanos going to molecule manipulate the crap out of the Sentry? Hell no, since Sentry is superior in that area.

Is Thanos going to energy blast Sentry into oblivion? Hell no, since Sentry can operate on a higher rate.

Is Thanos going to come up with some fancy abilities to get rid of the Sentry? Probably even here a hell no, since Sentry already redirected energy without even knowing what it was. He is that awesome.

Is Thanos going to speedblitz Sentry into oblivion? LOL!

Is Thanos going to overpower Sentry physically? Even if Thanos is stronger (yet he actually lacks the lifting feats to prove his strenght level), he will be way too slow to actually tag the Sentry.

Is Thanos going to outlast Sentry with the force fields? Something Doctor Doom was not able to, something Reed Richards was not able to? I don't think so. Hell no!

Is Thanos going to BFR the Sentry? Hell No, since Sentry can fly at speeds beyond the speed of light and he can even teleport.

Is Thanos going to mind-rape the Sentry? Hell No, since Sentry was basically never defeated by the usage of telepathy. Emma Frost and Xavier were not able to attack him mentally to protect the X-Men. They had to combine their efforts to even enter the White Room Emma once built in Sentry's mind with Sentry's permission. That's about it.

There is basically nothing Thanos can do. Thanos probably has the durability in the end on his side and there is no doubt that he has the intellect and the prep-advantage, yet in a random encounter his main advantages are away. His shields wouldn't hold off the Sentry and his durability would have to take all the damage Sentry can inflict and that is a lot.

But even the prep-advantage? What is he going to do? Doctor Doom doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, Tony Stark doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, Reed Richards doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry, S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't know how to defeat the Sentry.
Thanos coming up with a way would be a new plot-device, yaaay, basically something what restrained the Sentry so often in the past, like for example where Hammond overloaded him with a little bit fire, LoL and BFR'ed the Sentry.
Stupid writing at it's finest, if we think about Sentry's power set and how he was standing in front of the sun and in the sun multiple times.

Thanos intellect would give him some room to breath, but only if Thanos decides to set one foot in front of the other, until he is gone. Thanos can kill immortal beings...

Trump card.

be careful friends

who wins

thanos should

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thanos can kill immortal beings... Trump card.

I don't think that's the same thing.
Immortal is not instantly immortal. Immortals can live on without dying, but if someone manages to kill them, then it's over for them. Being actually able to return from the dead. Basically appearing out of nothing. That's the real deal and Sentry has that.

Never explained directly in the comics, but yet understandable:
Sentry returns back from nothing. Not nothing, but something like solar wind.

Explained in the comics:
The super-soldier-serum phased his molecules one step ahead of the current timestream, the reason while Molecule Man never experienced something like Sentry's molecules. They are simply from a different point of existence. When he gets destroyed, his mental powers manifest his physical form.
That means that he basically manipulates the solar wind > photons > atoms > molecules to recreate himself somewhere.

Much of his power set is based on light. Basically everything is based on light, that's why he was always thinking that his powers come from the sun. The sun radiation empowers him, since he is able to absorb various kinds of radiation and become stronger in the process.

He can manipulate the solar light / radiation to turn invisible. He can manipulate the light to affect the photons and therefore control the atoms, which are parts of molecules. With that he can turn intangible. With that he can teleport, with that he has an insane amount of durability and invulnerability, with that he can even heal and resurrect. It's all about molecule manipulation and Thanos isn't going to kill him off.

Sentry's molecule manipulation > Post Retcon Molecule Man's molecule manipulation > Thanos' molecule manipulation

Originally posted by Enzeru
LOL, you don't have a clue, do you.
Molecule Man, the master of the molecules said that he never experienced something like Sentry's molecules and lost in the end. What makes you think that Thanos can achieve more with his matter manipulation? Because he made Champion go away? Leave it be.

You raise some good points.

Thanos eats him.

his mind allows the win for the eternal

Originally posted by Enzeru
I don't think that's the same thing.
Immortal is not instantly immortal. Immortals can live on without dying, but if someone manages to kill them, then it's over for them. Being actually able to return from the dead. Basically appearing out of nothing. That's the real deal and Sentry has that.

Never explained directly in the comics, but yet understandable:
Sentry returns back from nothing. Not nothing, but something like solar wind.

Explained in the comics:
The super-soldier-serum phased his molecules one step ahead of the current timestream, the reason while Molecule Man never experienced something like Sentry's molecules. They are simply from a different point of existence. When he gets destroyed, his mental powers manifest his physical form.
That means that he basically manipulates the solar wind > photons > atoms > molecules to recreate himself somewhere.

Much of his power set is based on light. Basically everything is based on light, that's why he was always thinking that his powers come from the sun. The sun radiation empowers him, since he is able to absorb various kinds of radiation and become stronger in the process.

He can manipulate the solar light / radiation to turn invisible. He can manipulate the light to affect the photons and therefore control the atoms, which are parts of molecules. With that he can turn intangible. With that he can teleport, with that he has an insane amount of durability and invulnerability, with that he can even heal and resurrect. It's all about molecule manipulation and Thanos isn't going to kill him off.

Sentry's molecule manipulation > Post Retcon Molecule Man's molecule manipulation > Thanos' molecule manipulation That didn't explain anything at all.

And it's not molecule manipulation, it's Thanos killing beings that can't die. For a comparable example, the Elders could reform from getting broken down into a feedable substance for Galactus. Yet, Death was able to kill them. Wolverine could heal from absolutely nothing which I attribute due to immortality. Deadpool can survive anything, not mainly because they have healing factors, but because they're immortal. You can't kill an immortal being, much like Sentry, and if you can, then they're not immortal to begin with. There is no "killing them and it's over", it's kill them, and they come back.

Nothing in the Cancerverse could die, no matter what happened. They got "killed", and came back instantly. Thanos blasted them, and they couldn't return. Thanos has the power to kill beings thatt cannot die. Don't know how much more obvious it can get.

Sentry is not more immortal than immortal beings.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You raise some good points.
Thanos eats him.

At least try to argue and come up with valid points, otherwise search for a Thor-related thread and debate there.

PS: Sentry > Thor.

Originally posted by Enzeru
At least try to argue and come up with valid points, otherwise search for a Thor-related thread and debate there.

PS: Sentry > Thor.

Valid points? I can do that.

Thanos's power output and mental based attacks ultimately prove to be too much for Reynolds. Void can't perma-kill Thanos, yet evidence points to Thanos being able to perma-kill the Void/Sentry.

Thanos enduring a prolonged ass kicking from Odin > anything Void ever did.

Lol @ bringing Thor into it, though.

Sentry > Thor who's injured and not at 100%, sure.

Going with Void.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thanos's power output and mental based attacks ultimately prove to be too much for Reynolds. Void can't perma-kill Thanos, yet evidence points to Thanos being able to perma-kill the Void/Sentry.

Thanos' power output is not as devastating as Sentry's.
Show me a scan, where he destroys multiple worlds, while holding back.
Show me a scan, where he cuts loose, while being in the microverse and releases so much energy that it's visible in the real world.

You will not be able to do that, without bringing in the Infinity Gauntlet.
And don't even try to come up with the "and the very universe screams"-instance, since that basically doesn't say shit.

If you still insist on it, then it's even more of a valid feat to bring in Sentry's Galactus stalemate, which was once stated by Spider-Man and also by X-Man, who acknowledged too that he was fighting alongside Sentry against Galactus.

Galactus > Thanos by a laaaaaaaarge margin.
Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thanos enduring a prolonged ass kicking from Odin > anything Void ever did.

Who besides the Sentry ever managed to do something to the Void? Let me answer that one for you. No one.

Void was regulary one-shotting simply everyone on the battlefield, until Loki came up with the Norn-stones and empowered all the heroes greatly.
If Captain America's power upgrade was that high, that he was able to harm the Void, then imagine how high Thor's power level in the end was, before he lost the upgrade.

And besides all that it was still not enough to take down the Void. Only Robert was able to restrain and defeat him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol @ bringing Thor into it, though.
Sentry > Thor who's injured and not at 100%, sure.

This is what this board fails to understand.

It's a fact to everyone who was actually reading Sentry comics, that he is weaker, when he is in a weak mental state. It's a fact. He was never doing badly, simply because he was beaten up. Something like that never happened during his entire existance. Every time when he was doing bad, he was in a weak condition.

Him being totally manipulated by Osborn on letting the Void take control over and over again, that is actually being very weak and if he is very weak, his power level sinks.
Do you actually understand that, or do you want me to open Photoshop and draw you a colorful picture?
With his power level probably still low (yet so damn high in the opinion of this entire board), he was trashing Thor during the Siege.
Then the Void took over and it was finally over for Thor, who would have probably been torn apart just the way Ares was torn apart, if Osborn didn't interfere.

Besides that what other instances do we have?
Oh yeah, a depowered Sentry VS WW Hulk. Who had the upper hand in the fight? Right, Sentry.
Who was still mainly brawling it out with his fists with one of Hulk's most powerful incarnations.

I remember Thor having some seeeeeeerious issues with Hulk in the past. Thor without his hammer would have been lost.

Unstable Sentry > Weakened Thor.
Unstable Sentry = (&lt Regular Thor.
Stable Sentry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thor.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I don't think that's the same thing.
Immortal is not instantly immortal. Immortals can live on without dying, but if someone manages to kill them, then it's over for them. Being actually able to return from the dead. Basically appearing out of nothing. That's the real deal and Sentry has that.

Never explained directly in the comics, but yet understandable:
Sentry returns back from nothing. Not nothing, but something like solar wind.

Explained in the comics:
The super-soldier-serum phased his molecules one step ahead of the current timestream, the reason while Molecule Man never experienced something like Sentry's molecules. They are simply from a different point of existence. When he gets destroyed, his mental powers manifest his physical form.
That means that he basically manipulates the solar wind > photons > atoms > molecules to recreate himself somewhere.

Much of his power set is based on light. Basically everything is based on light, that's why he was always thinking that his powers come from the sun. The sun radiation empowers him, since he is able to absorb various kinds of radiation and become stronger in the process.

He can manipulate the solar light / radiation to turn invisible. He can manipulate the light to affect the photons and therefore control the atoms, which are parts of molecules. With that he can turn intangible. With that he can teleport, with that he has an insane amount of durability and invulnerability, with that he can even heal and resurrect. It's all about molecule manipulation and Thanos isn't going to kill him off.

Sentry's molecule manipulation > Post Retcon Molecule Man's molecule manipulation > Thanos' molecule manipulation






(-Like the thought-)

But if this was the case....

He could simple fight sen deep enough in space where there was no light source to regenerate!

THANOS also could just create a sub multi verse where his will all that mattered fight sen there beat him, deform him to a sub atomic level... And then disband all light, heat, and distort the visual spectrums of all light and constantly bend and shift all moving light...

So when he tried to reform his head go left and his arm go right...

He doesn't have to end his existence as much as he just has to break him apart and keep him separated for and eternity in a verse he can except and kinda eternally imprison him.....

Then what's sen gonna due? Teleport out from where he can't even reconnect or pull him self together... And in that sense if this was the case assuming sen fights THANOS on a leveled playing field speed and telepathy wouldn't matter in the main verse because THANOS can just manipulate the surroundings around him not sen him self.... Like when he moves make sure he sent him to death like every time all the time he come back and send him back and do the same thing over and over for all eternity til sen gave up and just stayed there or ran out of power... THANOS powers are infinite and sen I think aren't if he is constantly trying to just not stay dead cause THANOS banishes him the exact instant he appears... THANOS could also smarten up spped up his on molecular structure to match the speed of sen rather than manipulate him and just punch it out tricking sen into a fight and when sen touched him he banish him again and again



And I always thought why begins that have universe destroying fight like BEYONDER and galactus n THANOS if there were to fight since theynhave the power of creation

Don't just create clones with their full powers control them on some mental level like leave something out in their brains and fight against the hulk or sen or molecular man that. Way... Be a two against one and then it be thanoses VS sen and double the threat...

Forum rules, all out with PIS and CIS off? Sentry all day. He has matter manip and raw power at this disposal, plus a pretty respectable intellect. Wasn't there some specualtion about Void being the biblical "Angel of death" for a while? And an off panel whipping of Galactus to boot? Sentry would thoroughly kill the shit out of Thanos.

Thanos loses 10/10...

All Void has to do is summon the NYPD; one look at those flashing lights and Thanos will run off never to return...

Originally posted by tsscls
Forum rules, all out with PIS and CIS off? Sentry all day. He has matter manip and raw power at this disposal, plus a pretty respectable intellect. Wasn't there some specualtion about Void being the biblical "Angel of death" for a while? And an off panel whipping of Galactus to boot? Sentry would thoroughly kill the shit out of Thanos. Kindly leave before things become uncomfortable for you.



This I say to ENZERU and to him only. I say this with and overall affection and heartful sincerity I can have for a fellow human being (I just lied I am Thanos you worthless curs). I want him to kindly take back his statements because the shit is about to hit the fan.

Sentry

i cant wait to see this thread blowup

Originally posted by quanchi112
This I say to ENZERU and to him only. I say this the deepest sincerity and I want him to kindly take back his statements because the shit is about to hit the fan.

This I ask quanchi112 and only him. I ask this in deepest confusion and I want him to be perfectly true about the answer, since I really, really wonder:

Dude, how old are you actually?

Originally posted by Enzeru
This I ask quanchi112 and only him. I ask this in deepest confusion and I want him to be perfectly true about the answer, since I really, really wonder:

Dude, how old are you actually? Now this only further compounds your inability to seek out information on your own without asking asinine questions. It's plain as day what my profile says about my birthdate. Now either math isn't a strong suit of yours like debating or you are attempting to take a cheapshot at an intellectual superior. In either case mercy is lost. You rescinded your last chance at mercy here.

The heavens will run red with blood. But in the end, as always, THANOS will stand triumphant!"

It begins.

exciting

Heavens should let free brains rain from above. Be sure to grab few of them and stop behaving like a child.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Heavens should let free brains rain from above. Be sure to grab few of them and stop behaving like a child. Ok, I will make this next post seem like a comforting/painless shot to your head. Before you have time to think it's over. You can't come back to life and debate another day because I will end this in one post.

First off both have the ability to come back from death. I don't think I need to waste any more time here's the evidence.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/TI_4_Headshot_CPS_023-1.jpg

Now with that being said the void's only real weakness is the other personalities inside opposing him.

This being said in the midst of a battle over asgard Bob Reynolds came to the forefront and wished for death. No, he actually ended up demanding it. This is in combat through attrition asking to be taken out. Thanos won't hesitate unlike Thor.



http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Siege04ThosTew-Meganpg21.jpg
Here's why I am not a hypocrite either because I am sure Quan haters will argue I change tactics depending on who I am arguing for which is the furthest thing from the truth. Unlike Thor in a forum fight he can't weather his attacks to draw out this personality. Thor had help so he can't win a war of attrition because the Void's greatest attacks when used against one foe he can't survive. As I have already proven Thanos can definitely survive because he's immune to death.

So if it's a war of attrition Thanos wins simply due to being stronger mentally. It's not even close when comparing these two in terms of mental fortitude. One can't live with his own actions and the other adjusts to godhood like it's adjusting a diet plan.....in stride.

Ah what the hell I will just end this debate here and now. In a universe directly opposed to him by embracing life and destroying death he struggles to keep his mental composure. Thanos is up against beings who by their own universe's unnatural laws by our own reality's standards anyways won't allow them to die.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/thanos_02_012-1.jpg


This is how Thanos responds against foes whom an entire universe's own laws are protecting and at this point struggling to maintain his mental composure in a place vehemently opposed to him as the avatar of death.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/thanos_02_014-1.jpg

One attack and they all died. I've seen far less really hurt and destroy Void's body than Thanos' power. The difference is Void had a say in whether or not he could return to the battle but since Thanos can override life itself where death no longer has any sway he definitely keeps the Void from coming back to the fray.

One attack is all it takes despite your tears of protest. Accept defeat and learn from it. Today Quanchi112 has humbled you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, I will make this next post seem like a comforting/painless shot to your head. Before you have time to think it's over. You can't come back to life and debate another day because I will end this in one post.

You sir, have some serious problems.

Originally posted by quanchi112
First off both have the ability to come back from death. I don't think I need to waste any more time here's the evidence.

Thanos can come back from the dead, who doubts that? But he needs more time then Sentry and he seems to be in pain during it, while Sentry simply returns and smiles in the process.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now with that being said the void's only real weakness is the other personalities inside opposing him.

No?
It's Sentry VS Thanos, you know like Thanos the bad guy, who wants more and more power. It's not Sentry VS Marvel heroes / his old friends. Forget the Void, Sentry is more powerful, since we are using characters in their prime, when it comes to forum battles and not weak versions, who were depowered just for the sake of the plot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This being said in the midst of a battle over asgard Bob Reynolds came to the forefront and wished for death. No, he actually ended up demanding it. This is in combat through attrition asking to be taken out. Thanos won't hesitate unlike Thor.

So what? As I stated it above, it's Sentry VS Thanos and not Sentry VS heroes. If Thanos somehow manages to take the Sentry / Void down to a level where they revert back to Robert (and he will not be able to do it, even though it happened during WW Hulk #5), do you think that Robert will ask him to kill him?

No, Robert will not have the wish to die in this battle, so it doesn't matter if Thanos won't hesitate unlike Thor, since Thor never killed Void in the first place. Robert did it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here's why I am not a hypocrite either because I am sure Quan haters will argue I change tactics depending on who I am arguing for which is the furthest thing from the truth. Unlike Thor in a forum fight he can't weather his attacks to draw out this personality. Thor had help so he can't win a war of attrition because the Void's greatest attacks when used against one foe he can't survive. As I have already proven Thanos can definitely survive because he's immune to death.

Yet another useless post.
What is that supposed to prove? Thor is not in the reach of Sentry's / Void's power level, face it.
The Void got stopped by Robert Reynolds during the Siege. The entire comic made it clear, everything what happened before made it clear, like the instance, where Void told Sentry that he can't kill himself, if he doesn't intend it to with all of his heart and soul.

Thanos is immune to death, yeah - Sentry is immortal and keeps returning. What's the point of that? It would end in a stalemate by that logic.
Why don't you bring in classic Juggernaut into a battle, who was basically immune to physical damage? Just because you can't defeat him, it doesn't mean that he is instantly more powerful then you. If Juggernaut is in a gauntlet and also can't finish you off, then you simply get past him, since there is no point in a ridiculous advantage like infinite invulnerability, or immortality.

Everything besides that Sentry has under his dispossal. He is faster then Thanos, he is stronger then Thanos.
What did Thanos do what proved him fast? Nothing, since super speed is not a part of his power set. Not even super fast reflexes are a part of his power set, since he has been tagged more then once in the past by characters who were vastly slower then Sentry. That includes Thor.

Strenght? Thanos never had any propper lifting feats, everything he was always doing was punching away characters in the past, who gained many upgrades.
Hell, while Thanos was wielding the Infinity Gauntlet Professor Hulk was able to smack him around. I'm not saying that he was hurting Thanos, but that he moved him, by punching him.
Even Thing managed to actually make Thanos move by punching him.
Sentry stands above them and would not even flinch after attacks from such people.

Hell, Doctor Doom survived being blown away by Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet and he was fine afterwards, yet Sentry destroyed Doom multiple times and I mean multiple times. There were like 4 various occasions and in the end, Sentry probably still didn't even know who Doom was, because he didn't care about him, while Thanos is monitoring Doom on a regular basis.

Do you know who stalemated Galactus? It was the Sentry. Offpanel stated once by Spider-Man, but something like that happens often in comics. It was not a one-time-deal, it happened a second time, when X-Man said that Sentry and him were fighting against Galactus.

So you have two valid characters who respect Sentry deeply (like Spider-Man who admires Sentry and X-Man who bowed in front of the Sentry) saying that he stalemated Galactus, against Thanos who begged Galactus to spare his life.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So if it's a war of attrition Thanos wins simply due to being stronger mentally. It's not even close when comparing these two in terms of mental fortitude. One can't live with his own actions and the other adjusts to godhood like it's adjusting a diet plan.....in stride.

Now you're just making something up, because you can't back it up with actualy power feats.

What do we actually have so far?
Speed? Sentry.
Strenght? Sentry.
Energy Projection? Sentry.

Mentality? If Thanos manages to get past Sentry's mental defenses, he will face the Void and then it would also be over for Thanos. Besides that:

Basically all the regularly often used abilities in fights, yet Sentry has the advantage in them.
And you're coming up with the their mentality. If we use a stable Sentry, and we do, since there is no point in depowering a character by giving him mental issues, which was done for the sake of the plot, like where Sentry had to face WW Hulk for example, who had to win the fight...
... then a stable Sentry won't be out-mental'ed by Thanos, since Thanos won't have the time. What makes you think that Thanos can keep up at the speeds Sentry operates? Thanos would have to deal with a great amount of damage, before he could even react to Sentry.

Is there something which makes you think otherwise? Like the instance, where Silver Surfer MISSED Thanos' gauntlet? If you try to bring that one up, to say that Thanos can react to speedblitzing characters, then think again, because that instance didn't really show Thanos being able to react to Silver Surfer's speedblitz.

Thanos has the ability to perceive energies sources and matter over large distances, so he maybe already knew in advance that something was coming and he was able to move out of the way before.

Or the other possibility, that he was standing in front of Captain America, ready to hit him, yet Captain America wasn't flinching, wasn't moving, since he knew his part of the plan - he was the bait and Thanos suspected that something was wrong, basically something you could actually say by judging his look on the face, after Silver Surfer missed the gauntlet and flew away.

Nothing was saying that Thanos reflexes did something to help him out of the misery. At the same time Thanos has more then enough bad showings when it comes to terms of the speed, like where Thor and Thing punched him away and he was thanking them for giving him the distance to attack them with his death ray vision. Basically the same thing what happened when Drax and Professor Hulk started punching him. Once again he used his death ray to get rid of Drax and then got attacked by the Hulk, I think.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ah what the hell I will just end this debate here and now. In a universe directly opposed to him by embracing life and destroying death he struggles to keep his mental composure. Thanos is up against beings who by their own universe's unnatural laws by our own reality's standards anyways won't allow them to die.

Who cares about that? He had all the time he needed to do that. What is he going to do if he faces an opponent like the Sentry who uses his speed, strenght and vast energy output, to get past his force fields and attack him directly.

If characters like Thor and even the freakish' Professor Hulk and the Thing can tag Thanos and make him flinch, as well Drax actually kill him, then Thanos will suffer a giant beating by the Sentry.
Thanos can't operate on such speeds, it has been proven more then once in the comics, like where he even failed to tag Captain Marvel, until Marvel made one little mistake and flew too slow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is how Thanos responds against foes whom an entire universe's own laws are protecting and at this point struggling to maintain his mental composure in a place vehemently opposed to him as the avatar of death.

That has proven absolutely nothing. Do you understand that? Nothing.
He shoots his eye beam and destroys some enemies, while Sentry destroys planets with his energy output, while holding back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One attack and they all died. I've seen far less really hurt and destroy Void's body than Thanos' power. The difference is Void had a say in whether or not he could return to the battle but since Thanos can override life itself where death no longer has any sway he definitely keeps the Void from coming back to the fray.

Who died, dude? Who died?
Just because Wolverine slashes a room full of random elite warriors, it doesn't automatically mean that he can slash through a room full of Daken's.

Do you know what canon fodder enemies are in comics? Nothing. They are there to die and make the heroes / villains look stylish.

Not even that particular instance is impressive, since it's one thing if someone can't die in a particular universe and if that someone lacks other important abilities like having the strenght, speed, durability, invulnerability and energy output to actually overpower his enemies, other then just having the advantage of the immortality.

Thanos can override the life as much as he wants, it doesn't change the fact that Sentry returned multiple times back from the dead and the fact that his mental powers hold his physical form together. When he gets killed off, he appears back again, by manifesting out of nothing. It doesn't have anything to do with him being alive, or not. He stands above that.

The only thing that could actually defeat the Sentry once and for all would be a damn powerful and I mean, a damn powerful reality warper. "No more universe of one million exploding suns" and it would be over.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One attack is all it takes despite your tears of protest. Accept defeat and learn from it. Today Quanchi112 has humbled you.

That was it? I mean, that's it? That's what I was waiting for? No offense, but that was just weak. I have to stand up tomorrow early and I was mainly waiting for your response to see if you can throw something at me, which could give me something to think about, but no, you didn't do crap.

I'm off for today, it's too late here in this weird country.

PS: Squirrel Girl > Robert Reynolds > Sentry > Void > Thanos > Thor > Silver Surfer = Doctor Doom.

Im confused as how Thanos can kill Void? Void has total control over his molecules. Thanos did kill unkillables, but they did not have the regeneration and powerset that Void has. The reason they were unkillable was because they had nowhere to go when they died. Which no longer was a problem when Thanos fought them because Death was with him. All Thanos did was bring the aspect of death back to that universe.

It doesnt mean thanos can kill anybody with a single touch.

Thanos pwn him. In Thanos: Imperative, he mopped the floor with the likes of Magus and Lord Mar-Vell. And he wasn't at full power for the entire arc. He totally operate on another scale of power, he's no Thor or Hulk or Silver Surfer, he's far above them.

Plus, he got the brain to go with the brawn. Thanos win.

lmao

Battlezone: Quan vs. Enzeru

Originally posted by Enzeru
You sir, have some serious problems.



Thanos can come back from the dead, who doubts that? But he needs more time then Sentry and he seems to be in pain during it, while Sentry simply returns and smiles in the process.
Thanos doesn't need more time than the Sentry. We've seen the Sentry remain dead for some time by Morgana, initially Molecule Man, and then for good so far from Thor although he didn't want to live anymore. Are you ever right ?

The Void took on his friends and he has other personalities spilling over no matter who he may be taking on. The point is already made Thanos as the avatar of death can kill him permanently. Sorry, unlike the Void Thanos can bring down the unkillable. The Void from the Siege isn't a weaker version. I love it when people ignore the showings.

I think the Sentry has a weak mindset overall. It's always been his greatest weakness. Thanos' greatest strength is his mind so it's not hard to see where this one is going. Good point though the WW Hulk seemed to burn out the Sentry all out and the power level WW Hulk exhibited was elite top tier. That's it. Whoops. So far it isn't looking good.

Keep ignoring this I honestly don't care. Most foes can't get into a war of attrition with the Void but Thanos can. Thor did kill the Void with his assistance but his power destroyed his body. Thanos destroys his body and permanently kills him. The guy can override a universe' natural laws this is no sweat.


It's amusing you telling someone else they are irrelevant when I read through your long very drawn out and inadequate arguments.

Thor can't beat the Void one on one but he is powerful to destroy the Void's body. Thanos is more powerful than Thor. Conclusion Thanos destroys his body killing him and as the avatar of death preventing his return to life. Void doesn't need to kill himself Thanos will commit murder most foul here.

Sentry isn't immune to death. Thanos can kill those who can't die hence the term immortals. Thanos has the tools most don't have in bringing down someone like the Void on top of the fact he's weak mentally and wanted death as his actions became clear to him. No, it isn't a stalemate because Thanos can kill those who cannot die. Read the scans and soak up my knowledge.

Sentry isn't stronger than Thanos. He didn't even look as strong as WW Hulk. Sure, the Void can rip characters like Ares and Loki in half not real heavyweights like Thanos but in the event it did happen even though it won't he reforms. Sentry is faster but he rarely ever uses his speed in a blitzing type manner against the WW Hulk he flew into his punches and let him attack him. He's a mess upstairs. He thanked the Hulk for beating him. Yet another example of him fearing losing control and someone else having to put him down. Thanos does so easily.
Sentry struggled to lift the helicarrier. LOL. This also isn't about lifting this is about punching people. Quit saying irrelevant and worthless things. Hulk did attack him just like every other hero in that comic did. Thanos won. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry who went all out. That's not very impressive considering the Hulk has never even come close to challenging Thanos let alone burning him out of power.

Your point ? Human Torch screwed with the Sentry's mind and sent him off with some mind tricks. The skrulls took him out of the battle in secret invasion as well. Your killer points are guys harming Thanos and losing while mine are foes far less than the Sentry defeating him or screwing with his mind. Advantage---Quanchi112.
Thanos depowered himself against Doom and friends. He also won the battle. The Sentry was Norman's tool he manipulated throughout the dark avengers who cares if Thanos kept tabs on Doom at least he doesn't follow a lunatic who paints his face's orders. Be serious. The guy couldn't even kill his own wife as the Void he's that mentally weak.

We don't count off panel statements. Sorry, we don't. We don't know if he had aid and I am told he did or how hungry Galactus was. Thor can get credit for defeating him all the same with a godblast anyways doesn't really mean he's unbeatable. You seem to really struggle with articulating your points or even resembling a coherent point.

Thanos wasn't there to battle Galactus and ended up saving his life. That Galactus was also well nourished. Context.

Sentry rarely uses his speed. He did blitz thor in siege but he countered so if Thor can shrug it off and counter I see no reason why Thanos cannot. I also seem to recall sentry using his speed flying directly into the WW Hulk's fists. How very impressed you must be.

Strength--Struggling with a helicarrier doesn't suggest a superiority in strength over Thanos. Who has Sentry overpowered who's exceptionally strong ?


I see no reason to suggest why his energy projection is greater than Thanos' either.

What are you talking about ? People have sent the Sentry screaming off into the distance by a few well place words. This is also Thanos not some idiotic Human Torch yet we've seen what he's capable of. Just saying. Thanos can kill the Void and won't shy away from doing so.
Sentry doesn't have one clear advantage. We've seen the Sentry burned out, scared off, ask for death, and thank someone for koing him and you think he has advantages over Thanos. You my friend are a maker of jokes.

Look at you here excusing or eliminating his character flaws. Most biased posters downplay or ignore showings they don't like I see you are no exception. So now the Sentry had to lose.....no in fact the Sentry defeated Blue Marvel in his own book. That's an example of the hero losing in his own book. LOL.
Thanos doesn't need that feat against the Sentry the guy has been known to fly into punches while smiling about it or batted back by Thor after not really affecting a class 100 character with a surprise attack. I don't even need to get serious with you because you really have no basis for an argument.


I don't even need to address this. It's cute how ridiculous you are and it's a good indicator of how far you'll go to the land of asinine.

That's one showing I tend to think of Thanos using his shields or tk which ever method you believe he used to negate the Fallen One's speed although the Sentry doesn't ever speedblitz defeat anyone. Even Hercule' skill made his speed attacks look inadequate.

Thanos slapped Drax and the Hulk in the face. He didn't treat them as respectable adversaries he treated them with disrespect.


Sentry will probably run into Thanos' attacks he doesn't try to avoid much in fact he seems to fly blindly into his opposition.

Characters like Thor have tanked his speedblitz. Characters like Human Torch have messed with his fragile mind. Drax was killed by Thanos and despite his anti matter bomb on a weakened Thanos he came right back to. Drax was then promptly killed.

Sentry didn't destroy a planet in his battle against the WW Hulk in which he burned himself out and the planet wasn't destroyed just a few buildings.

Thanos wins, 10/10.

Quan is quangry

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Quan is quangry

I've not witnessed this before.

It is most interesting.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Who died, dude? Who died?
Just because Wolverine slashes a room full of random elite warriors, it doesn't automatically mean that he can slash through a room full of Daken's.The same characters the other heroes tried and failed to kill. It's all in the scan. Don't try to discredit the scan just because Thanos does something amazing.
Those foes weren't able to be killed by anyone in the Cancerverse save Thanos. No one else could do so they just previously tried.

These other attributes aren't in Sentry's favor since his energy output and overall power was milked against the WW Hulk. Thanos doesn't stall out against Thor with the power gem yet the Sentry not only stalls out but thanks Bruce for knocking him out. Yeah, Thanos eats him for breakfast. Maybe Bobbie will send him a thank you card for finally ending his troubles.
Thanos can permanently kill foes who are unkillable. Void can't. Big difference. No, the Void doesn't and he isn't beyond death as siege clearly showed. he went along for it but the fact remains he was killed so he can be killed. He even says kill me.

The avatar of death can do so. Thanos already defeated a reality warper in Maker. The Sentry just simply isn't on his level.
You lost the debate. Thanos can render immortals dead. Thanos is immune to death. Void isn't. Bob's mind is weak Thanos' isn't. Sentry's powers have been exhausted against an elite top tier. Thanos wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesn't need more time than the Sentry. We've seen the Sentry remain dead for some time by Morgana, initially Molecule Man, and then for good so far from Thor although he didn't want to live anymore. Are you ever right ?

No, we have seen what Sentry does to characters without super speed and super reflexes. If they have a low durability, he flies behind them and rips their head off before they can even react.

No matter who it was, they were not able to react and took damage. WW Hulk, Blue Marvel, the Collective, Thor, Morgana, Doctor Doom and so on.
Thanos is not faster then these characters by any means, since he has been tagged and outspeeded by such characters on a regular basis.

Sentry's speed > Thanos speed ... BY A HUGE MARGIN. And speed is always an important factor in a battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Void took on his friends and he has other personalities spilling over no matter who he may be taking on. The point is already made Thanos as the avatar of death can kill him permanently. Sorry, unlike the Void Thanos can bring down the unkillable. The Void from the Siege isn't a weaker version. I love it when people ignore the showings.

What are personalities? Void has various kinds of forms, since he is a shape shifter. His personality was nearly always the same.

Thanos never faced someone with such an unique power set like the Sentry. And you still didn't adress the point, that the Sentry isn't life, but energy, which always manifests back again, after being destroyed / "killed off".

Who ever said that Void was a weaker version during the Siege of Asgard? I didn't say something like that. I simply said that Sentry and Void there were not over the TOP characters, who have to be used separately in battles.
Mainly because they had more impressive showings in the past. Who did the Void actually face during the Siege? No one stronger, then he was facing in the past, like the other instances, when he was pwning characters like classic Thor and classic Strange and Savage Hulk during the early years, when Sentry was mentally stable and so powerful, that the Void had to manifest himself as a separate entity, because he was not able to take control over Sentry's body.

You know like, Sentry > Void > Everything he ever faced, before the insane Norn-stones upgrade > Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think the Sentry has a weak mindset overall. It's always been his greatest weakness. Thanos' greatest strength is his mind so it's not hard to see where this one is going. Good point though the WW Hulk seemed to burn out the Sentry all out and the power level WW Hulk exhibited was elite top tier. That's it. Whoops. So far it isn't looking good.

It's not his greatest weakness. It's his only weakness.

Superman's only weakness is Kryptonite. When it comes to a fight against an other powerful opponent in a forum battle, do you shoot Superman with a Kryptonite gun, because Kryptonite it's his weakness? No.

When Sentry was in a weak mental condition many people were able to manipulate him. Hell even Kingpin managed to do it and Kingpin is not exactly a Tony Stark or a Norman Osborn.
When Sentry was in a better mental condition, he stood above everyone else.

Additionally to that Sentry's power level sinks, when he is in a weak mental condition. That is a well adressed fact in the world of comics and if you're not aware of that, then never ever answer to a Sentry debate again.

During the WW Hulk #5 Sentry was in a weak mental condition. He was skipping the fight for few days, because he was unable to leave his house because of his agoraphobia. The fear of wide, open spaces, where he couldn't hide if it would come to a panic attack.
When Hulk decided to kill the heroes, Sentry knew that it was time to play God, he entered the battle and while still being weak and only having enough energy to bring it on a city busting level, it was still more than enough to actually have the upper hand in the fight against World War Hulk, one of the most powerful Hulk versions and to actually stalemate that Hulk in the end.

It was Professor Hulk who was able to punch Thanos around. And it was Savage Hulk, a stronger version then Professor Hulk who was not able to make the Sentry even flinch, when he threw a train onto him. Then Savage Hulk got overpowered by a stable Sentry mentally.
You know, like the Savage Hulk, who is supposed to be immune to telepathy, because of his brute nature.

Whooooops, so far it isn't looking good for you!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry isn't stronger than Thanos. He didn't even look as strong as WW Hulk. Sure, the Void can rip characters like Ares and Loki in half not real heavyweights like Thanos but in the event it did happen even though it won't he reforms. Sentry is faster but he rarely ever uses his speed in a blitzing type manner against the WW Hulk he flew into his punches and let him attack him. He's a mess upstairs. He thanked the Hulk for beating him. Yet another example of him fearing losing control and someone else having to put him down. Thanos does so easily.

Did I adress it in this answer, or already in the one before? If it was in the one before, then you're being ridiculous right now, since you're not really reading my posts.

Sentry was in a weak mental state. When something like that happens, his speed and his strenght sink.
Why do you think he needed so long to travel from his house to the battlefield? Because he was simply not that fast. There was an entire conversation and few actions during his flight, where Reed Richards was forced to kill Tony Stark, but stopped because Hulk decided to let them live and so on ...

It took Sentry probably minutes to fly to that point, while in the past he was speeding all over the world in seconds. He was flying from the Earth to the Sun during one single conversation multiple times, he was even flying from Earth to Saturn during one scream, he was flying from the orbit to the ground in one panel, basically an amount of time Blue Marvel couldn't even react to.

Sentry thanked WW Hulk not for beating him, but for stopping him.
That was the entire point of the battle. It was the Sentry who lost the control over his powers and started destroying everything and it was the Hulk who had to stop him, while Sentry was gladly taking the punches, since he knew that he was the one who had to be stopped.

Do you read comics, or do you just look at the pictures?
If you would actually read them and think about the entire story, then you would know that Sentry was indeed afraid of losing the control over his powers and that's also what happened during the WW Hulk fight. He was simply mentally unstable, lost control and his power level during that time was shredding city-blocks and turning into city-busting destruction.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry struggled to lift the helicarrier. LOL. This also isn't about lifting this is about punching people. Quit saying irrelevant and worthless things. Hulk did attack him just like every other hero in that comic did. Thanos won. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry who went all out. That's not very impressive considering the Hulk has never even come close to challenging Thanos let alone burning him out of power.

Thanos never had a lifting feat. LOL.

Yes, it is about punching people and no, Hulk did not attack Thanos. It was Professor Hulk who attacked Thanos, a much, much, much, much, much, much, much weaker version then World War Hulk.
WW Hulk was in disadvantage in his fight against Sentry, who went all out, but yet was in a weak condition, therefore didn't have the power level to simply burn through Hulk.

Keep one thing in mind.

1. Unstable Sentry who stays for days in his house, unable to leave and then still enters the battle to stop the WW Hulk ... Destroys a city by losing the control over his downgraded power.

2. Unstable Sentry who is in his bed and afraid of the Void doesn't feel like entering the fight and stopping the Collective, who just killed the entire Alpha Flight (besides Sasquatch) and overpowered Binary, who is a planet buster ... yet after Captain America yells at him, he enters the battlefield and stalemates the Collective long enough.

3. Sentry, which mental issues are not adressed fights Photon and is afraid of destroying the entire planet during the fight. Photon teleports them into a microverse, together with Captain America. Sentry releases more of his power and starts destroying planets while still holding back.
Photon teleports Captain America away, Sentry finally cuts loose for the very first time, since he is in an area where he can cut loose and you see his energy expanding in the real world, while he is in a microverse. That sir, is the power of one million exploding suns.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your point ? Human Torch screwed with the Sentry's mind and sent him off with some mind tricks. The skrulls took him out of the battle in secret invasion as well. Your killer points are guys harming Thanos and losing while mine are foes far less than the Sentry defeating him or screwing with his mind. Advantage---Quanchi112.
Thanos depowered himself against Doom and friends. He also won the battle. The Sentry was Norman's tool he manipulated throughout the dark avengers who cares if Thanos kept tabs on Doom at least he doesn't follow a lunatic who paints his face's orders. Be serious. The guy couldn't even kill his own wife as the Void he's that mentally weak.

Already adressed this point. Human Torch "overloaded" the Sentry with energy, basically one of the most stupid plot devices to get rid of the Sentry, since he was in the sun more then once and was doing just fine.
Additionally to that Sentry would have been able to solo everyone on the battlefield in seconds, including Hammond. That's a fact everyone should be aware of.

Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet and Doom felt Thanos' wrath. Doesn't sound like Thanos was going all easy on Doom who tried to steal the Infinity Gauntlet by force shortly before. Yet Doom survived thanks to his force fields / his armor, something what never bothered the Sentry in the past.

As I mentioned it already. Even Kingpin managed to manipulate a mentally unstable Sentry. No biggie. You desperately want to make Sentry mentally unstable for the fight and additionally you talk about AOD Thanos, because maybe even you know what would happen otherwise.
Sentry > Thanos.
Sentry > Void.
That's the reason why Void wasn't able to kill Lindy. Because Sentry didn't allow him to, since he was still in love with Lindy. I don't know why I even adressed this point, since you once again proved that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep ignoring this I honestly don't care. Most foes can't get into a war of attrition with the Void but Thanos can. Thor did kill the Void with his assistance but his power destroyed his body. Thanos destroys his body and permanently kills him. The guy can override a universe' natural laws this is no sweat.

Thor didn't do crap. He did only one thing correct during the entire battle and I will explain it to you in few seconds, but at first.

It was Loki who acknowledged Void's power level as ... and I quote ... > all-powerful < ... Then he took all the Norn-stones and gave them to the heroes, who got an insane power upgrade and were able to harm the Void.
I don't think Thanos would have survived something like that. Basically attacks where even Captain America was able to do insane physical damage to the Void who was shrugging off Savage Hulk's best shots just fine in the past and broke all of his bones without any effort at all, as well overpowered him mentally on a regular basis.

Thor had that power upgrade too and therefore he was also able to do damage to the Void. If Captain America can harm someone like the Void, then imagine how much damage Thor was dishing out, yet Void still somehow had the attack power to ignore a direct attack by the Norn-stones (which proves, that he is not vulnerable to magic) and one-shotted Loki, who was in a perfect condition before.

Thanos can't inflict enough damage to actually kill the nor, nor can he inflict enough damage to actually kill an even stronger Sentry.

And now show me scans where Thanos overrides the life of beings who are not the typical comic book canon fodder and who have a similar power set to the Sentry.
You won't be able to, but it doesn't even matter, because.

1. Sentry stands above life, since he is supposed to be a manifestation out of energy, since his own molecules dwell in a different timeline. It doesn't matter if Thanos can override the life in a specific universe, if his opponent has a body in that universe but returns to a different point of existence and then returns back from there, by simply manifesting energy in the real world.

2. And not even that doesn't matter since how confidential is Thanos exactly? He once said that even immortality has it's limits after he tossed Champion from the orbit onto a planet and asked himself if Champion could survive the fall.

Way to go, Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's amusing you telling someone else they are irrelevant when I read through your long very drawn out and inadequate arguments.

Funny to hear that out of your mouth, mate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor can't beat the Void one on one but he is powerful to destroy the Void's body. Thanos is more powerful than Thor. Conclusion Thanos destroys his body killing him and as the avatar of death preventing his return to life. Void doesn't need to kill himself Thanos will commit murder most foul here.

Already adressed this point.

Thor can't beat the Void. Every damage Thor did to the Void was because of his power upgrade. Later on, when the Norn-stones disappeared he did the only one exact thing. He continued attacking an already very weakened Void.

I already made the example once. If 10 guys beat the crap out of you, even a 10 years old child will inflict damage and be able to kick you in the nuts, while you won't be able to defend yourself, since you're already badly hurt.
But you could maybe still one-shot the child, if he somehow manage to hit him. The exact same thing happened during the Siege.

a) the empowered heroes attacked and weakened the Void...
b) the power upgrade was gone and Thor continued attacking the Void, not giving him a chance to recover, since even Sentry and Void needed few seconds to start recovering...
c) Void still managed to kill Loki, who was sitting on the ground and tried to fight back...
d) Thor teleported Void away and in the same moment the Helicarrier fell onto the Void, who reverted back...

Thanos won't do crap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry isn't immune to death. Thanos can kill those who can't die hence the term immortals. Thanos has the tools most don't have in bringing down someone like the Void on top of the fact he's weak mentally and wanted death as his actions became clear to him. No, it isn't a stalemate because Thanos can kill those who cannot die. Read the scans and soak up my knowledge.

You can't prove that Sentry isn't immune to death. Not even I - his greatest fan - can do something like that, since it was made pretty clear that he was standing above everything and in the end decided not to return.

Why did he decide that? Because he was mentally weak and therefore he lost the battle? Uhm, no?
Since when is it a sign of weakness, if someone sacrifices himself to save the mankind? He knew that the Void would keep returning and causing death and destruction and in the end he decided to never return. He decided not to return to save the heroes, who were on the battlefield, fighting against the Void to save the mankind, yet it in the end it was Robert who always had the might to stop it.

Do you actually see what you're doing?
There is no such a thing like a classic Sentry. The character never had a retcon, he always had and has his power level. His weakness was exploited from time to time, to depower him for the sake of the plot. What's the point in a Marvel Earth bound hero, who can solo the entire battlefield in 2 seconds?

Do you know what happened during the Civil War? They had to find a way to get rid of the Sentry, so they gave him even more mental issues and he left the Earth and spent some time in the space, where he met the Inhumans once again.
Sentry himself acknowledged that he could easily stop the entire Civil War. He acknowledged that he has the power to do so. To erase it from the history books.
Yay @ Mind Erasing of over 6 billion people and even animals.

In forum battles we use characters in their prime and a mentally unstable Sentry is not a Sentry-Prime.
Additionally to that you didn't even try to argue for Thanos, instead of talking about his AOD upgrade.
What if we take his AOD upgrade away? Then he basically has nothing to face the Sentry.

In a different thread (Sentry vs Lord Marvell) I already said that AOD Thanos would at least stalemate the Sentry, but at the same time I could care less, since AOD Thanos doesn't bother me at all. That's his current state and if he loses that upgrade, then he is the plain old Thanos, who losses to the Sentry big time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry rarely uses his speed. He did blitz thor in siege but he countered so if Thor can shrug it off and counter I see no reason why Thanos cannot. I also seem to recall sentry using his speed flying directly into the WW Hulk's fists. How very impressed you must be.
Strength--Struggling with a helicarrier doesn't suggest a superiority in strength over Thanos. Who has Sentry overpowered who's exceptionally strong?

Sentry used his speed more then often. The fact is that none of the characters he faced was able to react to it. Everyone took it. If he is serious Thanos is going to take more of it, then you are willing to admit.

Already adressed the point with WW Hulk. Sentry wanted to be hurt. He was supporting Hulk, telling him that it was "good" o_O He wanted to be stopped.

Sentry also faced stronger opponents then Thanos. You're probably impressed by Thanos because he pimp-slapped Drax and Professor Hulk. I'm sure that Sentry could duplicate everything Thanos ever did in terms of strenght, since Thanos was mainly facing weak characters, who got many upgrades.
Hell, Thanos was flinching after Thing punched him, while Sentry didn't even move one inch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see no reason to suggest why his energy projection is greater than Thanos' either.

Because Thanos does not have the feats to back up at least multiple planetary busting energy projection.
Besides that Sentry's energy projection is even bigger, judging by the Photon fight, since his energy expanded a microverse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What are you talking about ? People have sent the Sentry screaming off into the distance by a few well place words. This is also Thanos not some idiotic Human Torch yet we've seen what he's capable of. Just saying. Thanos can kill the Void and won't shy away from doing so.

Again you're using plot devices to downgrade the Sentry and give Thanos a fighting chance. Weak.
Do you see me only riding on Thanos bad moments? Like where Gamora beat the crap out of him? Or where Thanos trained her to fight Adam Warlock, because he is afraid of Warlock? LOL! Just saying.

Sentry > Void > Thanos.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry doesn't have one clear advantage. We've seen the Sentry burned out, scared off, ask for death, and thank someone for koing him and you think he has advantages over Thanos. You my friend are a maker of jokes.

Sentry has many advantages.
Strenght, speed, energy projection, the ability to get past force fields, without even bothering, a greater molecule manipulation. And these are just offense-powers.

- A weakened Sentry burned out...
- A mentally unstable Sentry was afraid and left the battlefield...
- He asked for death to save everyone...
- Yet the one who K.O.'ed him got defeated by the Sentry 3 panels after...

Yes, Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look at you here excusing or eliminating his character flaws. Most biased posters downplay or ignore showings they don't like I see you are no exception. So now the Sentry had to lose.....no in fact the Sentry defeated Blue Marvel in his own book. That's an example of the hero losing in his own book. LOL.
Thanos doesn't need that feat against the Sentry the guy has been known to fly into punches while smiling about it or batted back by Thor after not really affecting a class 100 character with a surprise attack. I don't even need to get serious with you because you really have no basis for an argument.

Yes, Blue Marvel got defeated by the Sentry in his own book and that says something. New characters often have insane feats, to make everyone talk about them and buy their comics. It's the way it goes and Blue Marvel was able to punch the Sentry into the orbit. Red Hulk punched Uatu in the face. Wofooo.

Sentry > Blue Marvel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's one showing I tend to think of Thanos using his shields or tk which ever method you believe he used to negate the Fallen One's speed although the Sentry doesn't ever speedblitz defeat anyone. Even Hercule' skill made his speed attacks look inadequate.

Sentry wasn't even trying in that fight. Yet again you were not reading the comic, but enjoying the colors.
Sentry was clearly trying to talk it out, he said that he didn't want to fight. He wasn't even flying fast, since he was able to say an entire sentence, before he reached Hercules who grabbed him.
I'm happy that Hercules grabbed him. Hercules is far more skilled then Sentry. Hercules is more skilled than Thor, since he was also already choking the crap out of Thor, who was not able to break the grip and had to cheat.

When Sentry finally had enough, the rammed Hercules into the ground and punched him once. Hercules blocked it with one hand and had to use his other hand for support: "Ugn..."
Then he kicked Sentry into the nuts and ran away. Way to win a fight Hercules.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos slapped Drax and the Hulk in the face. He didn't treat them as respectable adversaries he treated them with disrespect.

Stay at the truth, mate. He slapped Drax and PROFESSOR Hulk in the face and that was not it. They got back up again and punched him around, until he had to use his Death Ray Vision to get rid of Drax.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry will probably run into Thanos' attacks he doesn't try to avoid much in fact he seems to fly blindly into his opposition.

Judging by your logic Thanos will do everything correctly, while Sentry will only make mistakes. That is being biased towards your favorite character and biased against his opponent, mate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Characters like Thor have tanked his speedblitz. Characters like Human Torch have messed with his fragile mind. Drax was killed by Thanos and despite his anti matter bomb on a weakened Thanos he came right back to. Drax was then promptly killed.
Sentry didn't destroy a planet in his battle against the WW Hulk in which he burned himself out and the planet wasn't destroyed just a few buildings.
Thanos wins, 10/10.

I adressed all of this points and it's getting ridiculous slowly, because you were wrong about them and you're still wrong.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
The same characters the other heroes tried and failed to kill. It's all in the scan. Don't try to discredit the scan just because Thanos does something amazing.
Those foes weren't able to be killed by anyone in the Cancerverse save Thanos. No one else could do so they just previously tried.

Using canon-fodder-enemies as a feat is not amazing, but pointless.
Mr. Immortal is immortal too, since he keeps returning from the dead. Does that mean that Wolverine is chanceless against him? No, because Wolverine is overall more powerful.

And it's not like you have proven that Thanos could override someone like the Sentry, since he basically never faced someone with Sentry's unique abilities.

Originally posted by quanchi112
These other attributes aren't in Sentry's favor since his energy output and overall power was milked against the WW Hulk. Thanos doesn't stall out against Thor with the power gem yet the Sentry not only stalls out but thanks Bruce for knocking him out. Yeah, Thanos eats him for breakfast. Maybe Bobbie will send him a thank you card for finally ending his troubles.

You're only using Sentry's badest energy output showing, which is perfectly explainable by his mental instability, which was pretty high at that particular fight, yet he is so much more then just a city buster.

And it's still ... Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can permanently kill foes who are unkillable. Void can't. Big difference. No, the Void doesn't and he isn't beyond death as siege clearly showed. he went along for it but the fact remains he was killed so he can be killed. He even says kill me.

He even says "Kill me!", and decides to never return from the dead. Big difference there.
Did the Molecule Man return yet? I'm not sure. And you still have to adress Thanos "killing" someone like the Sentry with all of his unique power. You won't be able to.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The avatar of death can do so. Thanos already defeated a reality warper in Maker. The Sentry just simply isn't on his level.
You lost the debate. Thanos can render immortals dead. Thanos is immune to death. Void isn't. Bob's mind is weak Thanos' isn't. Sentry's powers have been exhausted against an elite top tier. Thanos wins.

The AOD upgrade is the only thing which could and probably even would turn this fight into Thanos' favor, but then again, judging by the forum fights, AOD Thanos wins actually every single battle, just like no one can defeat classic Juggernaut, because of his invulnerability. No biggie.

Sentry's powers have never been exhausted, while he was in his prime. While being in his prime, he was causing damage to a microverse and in the next scan you saw Photon breaking out and BFR'ing the Sentry by teleporting him into a second microverse.
What happened? Did Sentry started destroying the entire microverse and forced Photon to escape and BFR Sentry, because Photon didn't have any other chance but to BFR his opponent? Wooooo.

Sentry wins.

It looks like quan has finally found his equal.

I can't take Quan seriously.

^^Who takes?

So its settled that Thanos wins then.

^ Of course Thanos wins.

Neither have to power to dispose of the other is how I see it.

So is everybody just asuming that void dies when his body is destroyed? Hes not so much dead when his body is destroy but bfred until he can rearrange himself. You also have the void living within the mind of Scott. So even the point of him killed at the end of seige is technically wrong.

Sentry is not an unkillable from a universe without a death. He is an unkillable from a universe with a death. Thanos does not have to power to kill whoever he damn well pleases. That reaching quite a bit. Thanos had the power to bring the aspect of death back to a universe that didnt have it. Nothing more. Which allow for the beings of that universe to be killed once again.

Thanos wins

Thanos kills him and sentry stays dead, not because he wants to, he just can't come back from permanent death.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Thanos kills him and sentry stays dead, not because he wants to, he just can't come back from permanent death.

What makes him able to keep him down permanently? I would actually really love to know. Cuz it will change my views on how this fight goes down.

He killed the unkillables and brought death to a universe which probably included the sentry.

The only reason they were unkillable was because that universe did not have a Death. Thanos brought the concept of Death back to that universe because Death was within him. That is the reason why they were able to be killed by Thanos. Doesnt mean he can kill any immortal character he wants.

Originally posted by bbrem123
The only reason they were unkillable was because that universe did not have a Death. Thanos brought the concept of Death back to that universe because Death was within him. That is the reason why they were able to be killed by Thanos. Doesnt mean he can kill any immortal character he wants. It Does as he was a extensionn of Death herslf.

Thanos was able to kill beings empowered by elder gods.

Originally posted by bbrem123
The only reason they were unkillable was because that universe did not have a Death. Thanos brought the concept of Death back to that universe because Death was within him. That is the reason why they were able to be killed by Thanos. Doesnt mean he can kill any immortal character he wants. Not to mention Void isnt "unkillable". He can be killed. He just chooses to come back. The rules of death apparently do not apply to him.

Thanos can and would beat the shit out of sentry with his bare hands, no need to go high end stuff.

Yes thats what im saying. He was an extension for Death herself. Which allowed him to kill the cancerverse beings. Because the Aspect of Death was no longer in that universe. He brought it back. Im gonna have to re-look everything. Make sure im not just saying random stuff haha

Originally posted by SamZED
Not to mention Void isnt "unkillable". He can be killed. He just chooses to come back. The rules of death apparently do not apply to him.


exactly.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Yes thats what im saying. He was an extension for Death herself. Which allowed him to kill the cancerverse beings. Because the Aspect of Death was no longer in that universe. He brought it back. Im gonna have to re-look everything. Make sure im not just saying random stuff haha He didn't bring it back to the universe. It's not like every character that died suddenly stayed dead. Only the beings Thanos killed.

Thanos had the power of death. The universe remained unchanged except for the people Thanos attacked. As seen when the Evil Defenders "Died", and came right back until Thanos started growling and attacking.

He basically had Death's touch if you will, although he had to destroy his opponents to cause it. Anyone Death can kill, Thanos could since she gave him this power.

Unless we're under the assumption that Death could not possibly claim Sentry if she wanted to...

Originally posted by SamZED
Not to mention Void isnt "unkillable". He can be killed. He just chooses to come back. The rules of death apparently do not apply to him. I disagree, sentry isnt more powerful than death. If she wants him dead he stays dead. Against MM, the Sentry's body got obliterated (speaks volumes about his invulnerability) but his consciousness was still alive and it reformed his body. Thanos kills him permanently, body and spirit. Nothing for sentry to come back from.

Am I the only one who didn't see a point to read about 90% of this thread?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He didn't bring it back to the universe. It's not like every character that died suddenly stayed dead. Only the beings Thanos killed.

Thanos had the power of death. The universe remained unchanged except for the people Thanos attacked. As seen when the Evil Defenders "Died", and came right back until Thanos started growling and attacking.

He basically had Death's touch if you will, although he had to destroy his opponents to cause it. Anyone Death can kill, Thanos could since she gave him this power.

Unless we're under the assumption that Death could not possibly claim Sentry if she wanted to...

I see what your saying.

The Cancerverse had no Death am I right? Thanos was the only one who could kill the Cancerverse beings right? But my point was that his Death power only worked in that universe. It can not work in the 616 because Death exists there. The only thing that Death gave him that benefits him in these forum battle is that he is immune to death.

Just like Adam Magus was killed. He was in our universe where the concept of death exist. Thanos was an extention of Death which allowed him to bring death to the ones he had slain in battle with out them coming back. So Death herself had domain over our universe and the ones killed by Thanos in the Cancerverse. This power only works on beings from Cancerverse is all im saying. Void is not immortal in the same sense at the Cancerverse beings were.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I disagree, sentry isnt more powerful than death. If she wants him dead he stays dead. Against MM, the Sentry's body got obliterated (speaks volumes about his invulnerability) but his consciousness was still alive and it reformed his body. Thanos kills him permanently, body and spirit. Nothing for sentry to come back from. We can only speculate, we dont know if there was anything left when MM killed him. There was no sign of spirit or consciousness. Even more so when he got erased from the time stream. There was nothing left. So far the only one who managed to keep him dead was Bob himself. He doesnt have to be more powerful than Death (I personally wouldnt say he is) but that doesnt mean he can't be out of her reach. And from what we've seen, he is.

Originally posted by SamZED
We can only speculate, we dont know if there was anything left when MM killed him. There was no sign of spirit or consciousness. Even more so when he got erased from the time stream. There was nothing left. So far the only one who managed to keep him dead was Bob himself. He doesnt have to be more powerful than Death (I personally wouldnt say he is) but that doesnt mean he can't be out of her reach. And from what we've seen, he is.

yes this

Originally posted by bbrem123
I see what your saying.

The Cancerverse had no Death am I right? Thanos was the only one who could kill the Cancerverse beings right? But my point was that his Death power only worked in that universe. It can not work in the 616 because Death exists there. The only thing that Death gave him that benefits him in these forum battle is that he is immune to death.

Just like Adam Magus was killed. He was in our universe where the concept of death exist. Thanos was an extention of Death which allowed him to bring death to the ones he had slain in battle with out them coming back. This power only works on beings from Cancerverse is all im saying. Void is not immortal in the same sense at the Cancerverse beings were. Why would his powers only work in that universe? Death doesn't automatically shut off his power when he crosses a barrier. There aren't switches to regulate how his power works. When he was the "Avatar of Death" that's how his powers worked. To bring death to people who couldn't die. We saw the same thing when Death killed some Elders of the Universe. Thanos was granted the power to kill immortal beings, that's what we saw, nothing more, nothing less. His powers just had a more functional use in the Cancerverse.
Although, why would Thanos have the power of immortality, yet his power to cause permanent death is taken away?

Also, Adam Magus wasn't even from that universe, or one of those beings. He was just working with them. Plus he's back anyway.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Why would his powers only work in that universe? Death doesn't automatically shut off his power when he crosses a barrier. There aren't switches to regulate how his power works. When he was the "Avatar of Death" that's how his powers worked. To bring death to people who couldn't die. We saw the same thing when Death killed some Elders of the Universe. Thanos was granted the power to kill immortal beings, that's what we saw, nothing more, nothing less. His powers just had a more functional use in the Cancerverse.
Although, why would Thanos have the power of immortality, yet his power to cause permanent death is taken away?

Also, Adam Magus wasn't even from that universe, or one of those beings. He was just working with them. Plus he's back anyway.

No Death doesnt just shut off his powers. His powers are just not needed because Death is in our Universe. Where does it say he can kill all immortal beings as well? Death was just extending her domain to a universe that doesnt have death in it through Thanos.

Lord mar-vell even says this when he kills Adam Magus "A universe where thing can still die. That will take some getting used to."

Originally posted by bbrem123
No Death doesnt just shut off his powers. His powers are just not needed because Death is in our Universe. Where does it say he can kill all immortal beings as well? Death was just extending her domain to a universe that doesnt have death in it through Thanos.

Lord mar-vell even says this when he kills Adam Magus "A universe where thing can still die. That will take some getting used to." But Magus wasnt immortal, as is a being empowered by the Cancerverse Elder gods thats why he could die

Originally posted by bbrem123
No Death doesnt just shut off his powers. His powers are just not needed because Death is in our Universe. Where does it say he can kill all immortal beings as well? Death was just extending her domain to a universe that doesnt have death in it through Thanos.

Lord mar-vell even says this when he kills Adam Magus "A universe where thing can still die. That will take some getting used to." K. Death shuts off his powers.
Because that's how Death's powers work. She can kill things that can't usually die. Thanos can kill things that can't usually die.
Death gave Thanos powers to kill beings that can't die. Whatever way you want to put it, beings he kills go to Death's domain. What does that mean to you?

I realize. He can die in one universe, he can't in another. Magus is irrelavant besides it being the first person Mar-Vell has seen die since his cancer.

Originally posted by Nihilist
But Magus wasnt immortal, as is a being empowered by the Cancerverse Elder gods thats why he could die

how do you know he wasnt? And why would mar-vell say that then? They are immortal because that universe has no death. Not because of the Elder gods. Which is why Lord mar-vell also say. "Our first priority will be cleansing this universe of death."

Originally posted by bbrem123
how do you know he wasnt?He didnt come from their universe, he was a champion of life from another universe as seen in GOTG .Because there was no death in his universe, which he had gotten use to and dont forget his was the Avatar of the concerverse gods himself. It was because of the Elder gods, because when the GOTG killed the Revengers thats why they came back in a altered form Being Death and a Nihilist he automatically oppese anything pro life

Thanos >> Schizo dumbass with superman powers.

Thanos has beaten better then sentry.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
K. Death shuts off his powers.
Because that's how Death's powers work. She can kill things that can't usually die. Thanos can kill things that can't usually die.
Death gave Thanos powers to kill beings that can't die. Whatever way you want to put it, beings he kills go to Death's domain. What does that mean to you?

I realize. He can die in one universe, he can't in another. Magus is irrelavant besides it being the first person Mar-Vell has seen die since his cancer.

Did you read what I said? Death does not shut off his powers. Dude read the context of the story. They cant die because that universe has no death in it. That is the only reason why they are unkillable. But since Thanos is an extension of death he is able to kill them. You are making up powers that thanos does not have. If i am wrong then prove it. I will gladly concede, because I am a huge Thanos fan and would love to see him able to kill everything he damn well pleases. I just see this much different the you I guess, o well.

Originally posted by Nihilist
He didnt come from their universe, he was a champion of life from another universe as seen in GOTG .Because there was no death in his universe, which he had gotten use to and dont forget his was the Avatar of the concerverse gods himself. It was because of the Elder gods, because when the GOTG killed the Revengers thats why they came back in a altered form Being Death and a Nihilist he automatically oppese anything pro life

I guess im just reading it different then you. They killed the Death aspect of that universe right? Which in turn made them all immortal right? But since death was using Thanos as an extension that universe it allowed for them to be killed right? Just because they are empowered doesnt make them immortal. Did I miss something where is say this? Also I would like to see where it say that thanos can kill any immortal that he wants. I cant recall that either. From Mar-vells statemant about destroying our universes death it implies that they are immortal because of the fact that their universes death no longer exists.

Originally posted by bbrem123
I guess im just reading it different then you. They killed the Death aspect of that universe right? Which in turn made them all immortal right? But since death was using Thanos as an extension that universe it allowed for them to be killed right? Just because they are empowered doesnt make they immortal. Did I miss something where is say this? Also I would like to see where it say that thanos can kill any immortal that he wants. I cant recall that either. When Marvell was dying it was made clear that accepting the Elder gods would make him immortal.

Why couldnt he can any immortal Deaths power is greater than?

Originally posted by bbrem123
Did you read what I said? Death does not shut off his powers. Dude read the context of the story. They cant die because that universe has no death in it. That is the only reason why they are unkillable. But since Thanos is an extension of death he is able to kill them. You are making up powers that thanos does not have. If i am wrong then prove it. I will gladly concede, because I am a huge Thanos fan and would love to see him able to kill everything he damn well pleases. I just see this much different the you I guess, o well. Good point. Death shuts off his powers.

Did I read what you said? Ha, of course I didn't.

I'll be seeing this thread when I get back since I predict it will be a huge smash.

It's funny how many people here are biased towards Thanos, yet they fail miserably to actually argue for him.
Right now, this thread isn't anymore about "Thanos VS Sentry", but "Death VS Sentry", since Thanos' only advantage in this one is his AOD upgrade and even that is debatable, since Thanos personally never faced someone with Sentry's unique power set.

And additionally to that I already adressed Thanos' credibility, since even he asked himself if Champion would survive a fall from the orbit and said that even immortality has it's limits.

I posted my opinion in a very long deconstruction of Quanchi's lack of knowledge about the Sentry and comic book characters, yet I guess that no one actually tried to read through it.

"Oh damn, lol too much text. Sentry got owned by a Helicarrier, Thanos wins."
What I'm witnessing right now is ignorance and stupidity at it's finest. Nihilist doesn't know crap, so he isn't responding with valid arguments and Quanchi who tried to do something like that adressed only crap, crap and even more crap.

Sentry wins, it's that simple.

If Sentry faces AOD Thanos, then it's at least a stalemate, since no one will be able to prove that Thanos could actually override the Sentry, since Thanos never did something like that to someone as unique as the Sentry and that was already adressed in this thread, which - as I mentioned it above - turned into a Death VS Sentry thread.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Good point. Death shuts off his powers.

Did I read what you said? Ha, of course I didn't.

I'll be seeing this thread when I get back since I predict it will be a huge smash. Imma smash you

Enerzu, what is unique about Sentry is that he has complete control over his molecular structure and that his molecular structure is placed at a point ahead of the rest of the timestream he currently occupies.

Both of these facts can easily explain why he returned from both Morgan le Fay's assault and Molecule Man's.

But this in of itself does not prove that Sentry is immune to Thanos exercising his authority as Death's Avatar to straight kill beings. Thanos power in that regard trumps both the power of current Molecule Man and current Morgan le Fay.

And that's all I will say on that matter.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Good point. Death shuts off his powers.

Did I read what you said? Ha, of course I didn't.

I'll be seeing this thread when I get back since I predict it will be a huge smash.
Well how bout you get the dildo out of your ass before you enter a debate. Just saying.

Originally posted by Nihilist
When Marvell was dying it was made clear that accepting the Elder gods would make him immortal.

Why couldnt he can any immortal Deaths power is greater than?

Do you have scan of this...I wouldnt mind seeing it for myself. The thing that confuses me though is why did they have to destroy the death of there realm? Just so there was nobody to act against what they are doing?

Originally posted by quanchi112
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/TI_4_Headshot_CPS_023-1.jpg



Is Thanos actually praying or talking to the Void in this scan?

"Oh great Void of oblivion,,,,,she has used me for her own ends just like you have been."

Sentry/Void.

Originally posted by Enzeru
It's funny how many people here are biased towards Thanos, yet they fail miserably to actually argue for him.
Right now, this thread isn't anymore about "Thanos VS Sentry", but "Death VS Sentry", since Thanos' only advantage in this one is his AOD upgrade and even that is debatable, since Thanos personally never faced someone with Sentry's unique power set.

And additionally to that I already adressed Thanos' credibility, since even he asked himself if Champion would survive a fall from the orbit and said that even immortality has it's limits.

I posted my opinion in a very long deconstruction of Quanchi's lack of knowledge about the Sentry and comic book characters, yet I guess that no one actually tried to read through it.

"Oh damn, lol too much text. Sentry got owned by a Helicarrier, Thanos wins."
What I'm witnessing right now is ignorance and stupidity at it's finest. Nihilist doesn't know crap, so he isn't responding with valid arguments and Quanchi who tried to do something like that adressed only crap, crap and even more crap.

Sentry wins, it's that simple.

If Sentry faces AOD Thanos, then it's at least a stalemate, since no one will be able to prove that Thanos could actually override the Sentry, since Thanos never did something like that to someone as unique as the Sentry and that was already adressed in this thread, which - as I mentioned it above - turned into a Death VS Sentry thread.

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, we have seen what Sentry does to characters without super speed and super reflexes. If they have a low durability, he flies behind them and rips their head off before they can even react. Someone like Thor who isn't super fast either reacted and batted him away. Weaker characters Sentry can take apart with a speedy attack but no one Thor level or above so there went your point. Shame.
All of these characters pretty much took on the Sentry. Thanos doesn't need to be faster he has the powerset and skill to tag characters in Sentry's speed range. Examples are the Silver Surfer and Fallen One. Thaos is fast enough and smart enough to negate the speed advantage.

Sentry's speed is greater than Thanos but then again this isn't a race, kid. Thanos' intelligence>>>>>>Sentry's intelligence.

We've seen him want to die and actually ask for death from his foes. The Void and the Sentry are also directly opposed to each other. One is pure evil and malice while the other is pure heroism and goodness. Do you even know who the Sentry is ?
Thanos has faced far bigger threats than the Sentry. Hell, the Sentry burned himself out against the WW Hulk. The Sentry will be plain out of his league here if his powers burned out against an upper tier Hulk. Thanos ends his life/his energy. It's stated on panel the Sentry can be killed and it's stated on panel Thanos can cause permanent death. I win.
The Void is a lot more formidable than the Sentry. he doesn't hold back and isn't weighed down by guilt.
I agree the Void hasn't ever on panel faced anyone near Thanos level and beaten him. Thanos has taken down power gem wielding Thor who ran rough shot over the Infinity Watch, the Surfer, and Classic Strange. Thanos takes down team wreckers with minimal ease. The Void exerts himself against far less than Thanos. No, the Void isn't anywhere near Thanos' league. Thanos brings down universes The Void failed to even take down asgard's forces. It's not even close. Thanos gets into battles with Celestials and Galactus while the Sentry's big threat is WW Hulk or that time he freaked out and fled against the Skrulls.

So it is his greatest weakness. The mind is the most dangerous thing we possess and it's his big flaw.
Superman can be beaten by other means than k-nite. Void can be beaten in other ways than simply screwing with his head which has happened. Thanos kills him and delivers permanent death.
The Sentry isn't always in a better mental state. The guy had to be coaxed into taking on WW Hulk. He was afraid to leave his home the guy is all over the map. Even when he did leave and poured into the WW Hulk it wasn't enough.

It's easy to put him in a weak mental state and besides that he's been defeated just the same anyways. Either way you look at it I win. Yes, he was in a weak mental state prior to the fight but cut loose on the Hulk. The comic made it plain as day according to this writer Sentry went all out like he's never done before. He wasn't portrayed as being less powerful just not powerful enough to get the job done. Bob lost because he was ko'd. That isn't a stalemate.
The Professor Hulk was easily overpowered. Sentry has a calming effect on him that's just situational. Sentry burning out his powers against a high end Hulk is flat out pathetic. Thanos goes runs with cube beings while the Sentry can't even put down the WW Hulk.

You're in denial and not very good at debating. I feel bad for you.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Well how bout you get the dildo out of your ass before you enter a debate. Just saying. I got a dildo in my ass because I figured I could joke around with you?

Not a lick of sense

Originally posted by Enzeru
Did I adress it in this answer, or already in the one before? If it was in the one before, then you're being ridiculous right now, since you're not really reading my posts. You aren't going to be able to shake me off.
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state especially if you can weather the storm from him. It's called story telling. There is no explanation why it took him as long as it did just as there is no mention he's weaker in the story. They do mention he's never released so much of his power before and that's why he burns himself out. We puttered out. Pak admits it in an interview he wasn't weak by any means. It's just you making excuses.
Inconsistency in comics things don't always gel together. We see Flash struggle to hit lightspeed in one arc then go far beyond it easily in another. Blue Marvel was fighting other characters that's why he didn't react. He was taken by surprise. You're really bad at this.
Stopped or beat the same meaning. Yes, sentry lost control and had to be stopped. Bruce did so. Thanos woulda killed him and easily. Lucky he ran into Bruce Banner.
Says the guy twists showings around left and right. Yes, he was afraid of losing his control over his power as the Sentry. He usually is. It's a staple in the character not just this arc. You seem quite ignorant though when it comes to the Sentry so I can't get mad at you. Sentry was mentally unstable then but then again he is a lot of the time you can't just wish that part of his character away.


Why would he need one in a fight ? At least he never struggled with lifting a helicarrier.
Professor Hulk is Hulk. They don't call him Professor Hulk in comics they call him Hulk. I don't think he's that much weaker but either way Thanos has easily shredded the Surfer and I doubt even WW Hulk could best him.

Sentry didn't lack power he lacked the power to finish the Hulk. He poured it into him it just didn't put him out. Whoops.
1.Collateral damage isn't indicative of power level. Just because Odin doesn't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean he is holding back either. Sentry poured the bulk of his power into the Hulk he just took it.
2.Ok.........I never said he was completely incompetent but the Collective was just an impressive showing that's it. Nowhere near as impressive as Thanos' best showings.

3.Yes, he can destroy planets but so can Terrax. Not particularly impressive when considering other elite top tiers. LOL.
That's hyperbole and it's to be expected of an elite top tier. It also doesn't excuse or minimize other showings where he doesn't blow up planets. Hulk was being attacked by his power it wasn't enough. Period.

Keep ignoring it but it's still canon.
Yes, but the Sentry can't beat Thanos. He can't keep him down and he's mentally weak. Thanos isn't. Thanos can also cause permanent death.

Thanos took it easy on the opposition. He wasn't worried for a moment. You seem to not comprehend the comics you debate about.
The Sentry is mentally unstable. Even in siege it came out and he demanded death. Trying to distance yourself from a character who has always been portrayed as crazy is pitiful.

Thanos>Void ( the guy wants death after a long battle)
Thanos >Sentry ( burned out by the WW Hulk, overload
ed by the Human Torch, chased off by Skrulls, outmaneuvered by Herc, etc.

How he battles the demons inside himself is his own business Thanos eradicates them all.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thor didn't do crap. He did only one thing correct during the entire battle and I will explain it to you in few seconds, but at first.

It was Loki who acknowledged Void's power level as ... and I quote ... > all-powerful < ... Then he took all the Norn-stones and gave them to the heroes, who got an insane power upgrade and were able to harm the Void.
I don't think Thanos would have survived something like that. Basically attacks where even Captain America was able to do insane physical damage to the Void who was shrugging off Savage Hulk's best shots just fine in the past and broke all of his bones without any effort at all, as well overpowered him mentally on a regular basis.

Thor had that power upgrade too and therefore he was also able to do damage to the Void. If Captain America can harm someone like the Void, then imagine how much damage Thor was dishing out, yet Void still somehow had the attack power to ignore a direct attack by the Norn-stones (which proves, that he is not vulnerable to magic) and one-shotted Loki, who was in a perfect condition before. Thor did enough. One on one Thor doesn't have a chance because he can't weather his attacks but Thanos can. /thread.

All powerful is hyperbole just as 1 million exploding suns but fans like yourself exaggerate and misrepresent this as 100 percent proof.

The heroes lost the upgrade and still managed to harm and later through his own desire to defeat the Void.

Thanos can survive anything he's immune to death. The guy tanked a cc blast he's that durable.

Many characters hurt the Void. Thor destroyed his entire body without an amp and he didn't come back because he wanted death.
Thor destroyed his entire body. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry. Blue Marvel stunned him for a moment or so. Human Torch defeated him yet your conclusion is Thanos a character considerably more powerful than these guys can't. Biased.
The other characters couldn't kill them. Just because they aren't pivotal characters that doesn't undermine the sheer power of the feat. Thanos also dominated Lord Mar-vell physically. The guy showed hos powerful he is and Mar-vell wasn't fodder. Do you ever make sense ?

1.Bob Reynolds stated kill me. That to me doesn't say he's beyond life since he used the words kill me. Thor killed him and he didn't come back because he didn't want to. Thanos prevents his return as avatar of death. On panel.

2.So ? Thanos proved on panel he can cause permanent death as death's avatar. Thanos has the power to destroy the Void since Thor does. Thor can't prevent his return but Thanos can. Bob also asked for death due to his mental weakness flaring up like it has 60 percent of the time.

Thanos is awesome. I am glad you admitted it.


I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.
Thor can't beat the Void because he can't weather his attacks. Thor lost his amp and is powerful enough to destroy his body which he did. Void wasn't weakened he as Bob wanted death. Mental weakness. Don't worry Thanos will give him the cure for what ails him.
The difference is Thanos is the adult and Senytry is the 10 year old kid here. One on one Sentry doesn't have a chance.

a. The heroes didn't weaken the Void Bob showed up and wanted death.
b. Thor wasn't powerful enough to keep him dead but was to destroy his body.
c. Yes, Void did kill Loki. Big whoop.
d.Yes, his mental weakness showed up. Unlucky for him. Thanos doesn't have a mental weakness like the Sentry has weighing him down.
[ After he wins you are right he will just stand there.




I don't have to prove anything. I proved Thanos is. You have no proof Void is. Void asked for death and got it. Thanos comes back and can't die despite wanting it or not. Thanos can cause permanent death to immortals. I proved that you just cried and pouted while I laughed and pointed at you.
Yes, the Void has the direct opposition in him which can flare up and want his own death. It's a mental weakness he can't get around. He couldn't even kill Bob's wife he needed someone else to do it because he can't overcome himself. He's a character pitted against himself and it's a huge weakness.

The Sentry also has been bested and defeated through power. You want to ignore it all and pretend he was weaker without proof. Your entire argument is based off speculation whereas I post scans of what I claim. I'm awesome you aren't. No biggie.
Dr. Strange also had the power to stop the Civil War big whoop. The Sentry like usual ran off because he can't take it. That isn't impressive it's kind of sad. Why bring up something so embarrassing when debating for the character ?
In forum battles we argue based off what is likely or on average. Sentry having mental issues is normal. Thanos bests him without it but of course you want to pretend he doesn't have the AOD upgrade because you know he loses.
Thanos bests Sentry with or without it since he can weather his attacks either way. With the upgrade he defeats him easily.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Sentry used his speed more then often. The fact is that none of the characters he faced was able to react to it. Everyone took it. If he is serious Thanos is going to take more of it, then you are willing to admit.

Already adressed the point with WW Hulk. Sentry wanted to be hurt. He was supporting Hulk, telling him that it was "good" o_O He wanted to be stopped. H eight use it to fly into his opponent once or twice but doesn't use it the entire time. He's also used it to fly into punches. Thanos puts up shields or just straight tanks it I mean Thor did so. Sentry went all out and couldn't put an elite top tier down he has no shot against Thanos.
No, the Sentry hasn't. Name the foe who is greater than Thanos that Sentry has taken on ? No, it's just a normal showing I mean I'd be embarrassed if the Human Torch bested Thanos though tbh. Glad that never happened. Sentry can't even lift a helicarrier so no I doubt he's even 1/5 as strong as Thanos. Maker, Silver Surfer, power gem Thor aren't weak characters.




Thanos doesn't need elite top tier feats. I've seen sentry's energy unleashed against WW Hulk. Not to impressed.

No, Thanos wins easily. Sentry's mindset is a part of the character this isn't cbr. Thanos didn't take her seriously and only feigned injury. Thanos killed both warlock and gamora before.



Failing to lift a helicarrier and burning out against WW Hulk doesn't mean he's stronger than Thanos. Both were used against WW Hulk and he puttered out. Sentry can't go past force shields easier than Galactus only way is pure force and he isn't that powerful.

--Comic specifically stated Sentry went all out.
--Yes, he runs I know but why bring that up quit embarrassing the Sentry.
--What ?
Who did what now ?

Thanos>>>Sentry the guy puttered out against WW Hulk.


You just said prior to the hero can't lose in his own book. I just gave you an example. Are you slow witted ? Do you understand what is happening around you ?

Sentry barely beat him. Blue Marvel would get stomped by Thanos. The guys who give the Sentry a fight wouldn't even register as nuisances to Thanos.


Sentry was fighting and was getting outclassed. It's funny how suddenly Thanos is trying against Gamora but then here the Sentry isn't trying. Hercules was just all over him. What about the time She Hulk decked him. Who cares about Thor/Hercules they are both more skilled than the Sentry.

Yeah embarrassing for the Sentry I agree.

He slapped them and then faked his own death. That's what happened. He's that good. They aren't threats to him.


Thanos is far smarter than the Sentry. Thanos doesn't have half of himself fighting against himself like the Sentry/Void. It's marvel comics that did this not me, mate.
You lost this debate in one post but here you are once again.

Thanos>>>>Void>>Sentry.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I got a dildo in my ass because I figured I could joke around with you?

Not a lick of sense You're Bran. Why wouldn't you?

T'would make less sense. dur

Originally posted by Enzeru
Using canon-fodder-enemies as a feat is not amazing, but pointless.
Mr. Immortal is immortal too, since he keeps returning from the dead. Does that mean that Wolverine is chanceless against him? No, because Wolverine is overall more powerful. The same enemies weren't able to be killed by anyone else. I don't care how desperately you try to ignore the feat it's still crystal clear how impressive it was.

Wolverine is more formidable but Thanos is immune to death, more powerful than a guy who burned himself out against the WW Hulk, and far smarter without any mental weaknesses.
Thanos fought many characters who can't die. They had no choice but the Void has a choice he can choose to not come back. He is likely to fizzle out anyways but he won't have the option since Thanos can kill characters with no choice in the cancerverse. Void is nowhere near up to the challenge of taking on the avatar of death.

The comic made it clear he went all out and unleashed himself and it wasn't enough. What showings am I ignoring ? His best power showings are shredding planets and so can the Surfer yet when he runs into Thanos it's akin to running into a brick wall.

Thanos>>>>Void>>>>>>Sentry, mate.


Yes, kill me means kill me. Yes, the Void can decide to not come back which he has done. He won't have a choice here.

Thanos kills unkillables and is immune to death. Sentry isn't.

There you go admit defeat. It feels so good.

Sentry's powers were exhausted against the WW Hulk. Should I go look for the Pak interview which would cause you irreparable damage and mental anguish. Please say the word and I will look for ir.

Photon beat him through bfr. That's a forum win.

Thanos wins you admitted it just a little earlier.

Thanos, 10/10.

I'm not getting into this, but all this mention of how tough and powerful Thor was with the power gem and making it to look like a good feat for Thanos is laughable. Thanos won by shooting him with a gun for gods sake. That fight was not going to end well for Thanos if they kept slugging it out. Same with the WWH story. Ok, thats great that Bob released all of his energy on the Hulk and burned the Hulk and himself out. If Bob doesnt go to the fight with those exact intentions and keeps that energy while using speed and fighting to actually win, he busts the Hulks ass.

As for who wins, i'm going to lean towards Thanos because he's too damn smart, but I truly dont think we've ever seen the Void at his best. Take Bob out of the equation completely and the 'What If' is probably closer to reality than the actual story itself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Someone like Thor who isn't super fast either reacted and batted him away. Weaker characters Sentry can take apart with a speedy attack but no one Thor level or above so there went your point. Shame.

Thor didn't do crap. Thor got speedblitzed in the mid-air and was not able to react. That happened to Balder and Ares too.
Thor was just lucky that he could BFR Sentry with a Mjolnir smack. After Sentry returned Thor was doomed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All of these characters pretty much took on the Sentry. Thanos doesn't need to be faster he has the powerset and skill to tag characters in Sentry's speed range. Examples are the Silver Surfer and Fallen One. Thaos is fast enough and smart enough to negate the speed advantage.

All off these characters were few of Marvel's top dogs, yet Sentry took them all an and always had the advantage, even when he was in a weak mental state and therefore weaker then usually.

Thanos does not have the skill, nor the power set to deal with uber-fast characters. When Silver Surfer doesn't use his speed in a fight, then it's PIS, to give the opponent a fighting chance. When Sentry doesn't use his speed in combat, then it's also for the opponent to have a fighting chance.

Thanos' fight against Captain Marvel was written propperly, where Captain Marvel was attacking him, while Thanos was not able to react. It was Captain Marvel who made the mistake to fly to low and to slow and THEN Thanos was able to grab him. Yeah, very skilly Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's speed is greater than Thanos but then again this isn't a race, kid. Thanos' intelligence>>>>>>Sentry's intelligence.

Never said it would be a race, but yeah - In that department Sentry would win too, of course.
Besides that, Sentry does not only have fast traveling speed. He can move at high speeds, where Thanos can't hold up anymore and in forum fights, we use the characters to their full extent and skip PIS, so Sentry wouldn't simply try to brawl it out with Thanos (and he would win even in that deparment), but he would use his speed and profit from it, since it would give him the ability to dodge Thanos' attacks and it would grant Sentry's attacks even more impact. With speed comes the impact and with impact comes the damage.

And yes, Thanos is smarter then the Sentry. Bill Gates is also smarter than me, but I would be able to punch him in the face, because I'm young, fast and strong and he is just an old geezer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen him want to die and actually ask for death from his foes. The Void and the Sentry are also directly opposed to each other. One is pure evil and malice while the other is pure heroism and goodness. Do you even know who the Sentry is?

Do you know who the Sentry is? OH, WHO AM I ASKING? WHO AM I ASKING? Of course you don't know it and you're proving it over and over again.

Sentry asked the Avengers to kill him, while he was restraining the Void. He asked it to save the mankind. That is actually very noble, my friend. Would you give up the power of God to save everyone? Guess not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has faced far bigger threats than the Sentry. Hell, the Sentry burned himself out against the WW Hulk. The Sentry will be plain out of his league here if his powers burned out against an upper tier Hulk. Thanos ends his life/his energy. It's stated on panel the Sentry can be killed and it's stated on panel Thanos can cause permanent death. I win.

Thanos never faced someone as fast, as strong, as versatile and as powerful as the Sentry. Well of course, Thanos faced Galactus, but he lost that battle.

Do you place Sentry on the same level as Silver Surfer or what? Is that your reasoning for his ultimate defeat? Sentry is above Silver Surfer, face it, even though Silver Surfer has more feats.
It does not matter, because Sentry was the more powerful character, when it came to terms of raw power. Silver Surfer NEVER overpowered Doctor Doom, while Sentry did it 4 times, without even flinching.

Sentry never burned himself out in the fight with WW Hulk, but I already adressed that point and I won't do it again, because it seems to be too complicated for you. I don't have the wish to confuse you any further.

What was stated on panel, was that Sentry can't die, if he doesn't wish to. Why should he wish to die in the fight with Thanos?
Sentry had the wish to die, when it came to saving the entire world. Once again, that is noble and not a sign of weakness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Void is a lot more formidable than the Sentry. he doesn't hold back and isn't weighed down by guilt.

And that's also the reason why the Void constantly lost to Sentry, right?
Did you actually read the Sentry comics in the past? Sentry defeated the Void nearly every single time, when he was mentally stable.

Sentry was so powerful there, that Void had to manifest himself as a separate entity. Void had his awesome power level, since he was tossing around characters like Savage Hulk, classic Thor and hell even classic Strange, since it was portrayed in the first Sentry mini, that Reed Richards didn't exactly know Dr. Strange (classic times) and then they searched together a way to get rid of the Void, while it was Sentry who was stalemating or defeating him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the Void hasn't ever on panel faced anyone near Thanos level and beaten him. Thanos has taken down power gem wielding Thor who ran rough shot over the Infinity Watch, the Surfer, and Classic Strange.

Wow, great. Thanos also had the Infinity Gauntlet when he hit Doctor Doom with his wrath, yet Doctor Doom stood up, because his tech protected him.
Doctor Doom's tech couldn't protect him when he faced Sentry and it's not like it happened only once.

Sentry > Thor, that should be obvious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos takes down team wreckers with minimal ease. The Void exerts himself against far less than Thanos. No, the Void isn't anywhere near Thanos' league. Thanos brings down universes The Void failed to even take down asgard's forces. It's not even close. Thanos gets into battles with Celestials and Galactus while the Sentry's big threat is WW Hulk or that time he freaked out and fled against the Skrulls.

No, Thanos get's beaten up by Professor Hulk and Drax, as well Thor and Thing, while Sentry doesn't even flinch, when they attack him.

Thanos brings universes down, when he wields the power of the Infinity Gauntlet. Are you now giving Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet to have a fighting chance in this battle?

Void destroyed Asgard by simply flying through it. Do you honestly think that Thanos can do something like that?
Void was also one-shotting everyone around him, without taking them seriously. He was one-shotting gods. Wake me up on the day where Thanos could actually do something like that to Loki.

For the fifth time... They had to depower the Sentry for the WW Hulk #5 fight. Sentry only brawled it out and didn't bother to use the variety of his other powers to take the Hulk down. If I was Sentry during that fight, WW Hulk would have been history after 10 seconds.
WW Hulk #5 is actually a damn low showing for Sentry, since he was able to dish far more devastating damage in the past and after the WW Hulk fight. The only reason he was struggeling there was because of his illness. Don't you understand that his power level scales with his mental stability?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So it is his greatest weakness. The mind is the most dangerous thing we possess and it's his big flaw.
Superman can be beaten by other means than k-nite. Void can be beaten in other ways than simply screwing with his head which has happened. Thanos kills him and delivers permanent death.

Sentry's powers are only limited by his mind. Yes, it is the most dangerous thing we possess and the Sentry is the perfect example for it.

No one can mess with Void's mind. Emma Frost tried it and had to spend the next days in her crystal form to avoid a complete takeover by the Void.
Strange and Xavier were afraid of the Void. When Noh-Varr entered Sentry's mind, he had to instantly leave again, because of the Void.
If Thanos even tries to mess with Sentry's mind, then he is history, because he releases the Void and then it's the same story over again and he gets humiliated.

Void can attack with powerful empathy. That empathy was enough to overpower Savage Hulk, who should be immune to something like that, because of his brute nature. The Void confronted him with all the miserable stuff in his life and Hulk suffered a mental breakdown.

What makes you think that Thanos would be able to overcome something like that, if the Void shows him Death spending some high quality time with Deadpool? Thanos would start crying and run away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry isn't always in a better mental state. The guy had to be coaxed into taking on WW Hulk. He was afraid to leave his home the guy is all over the map. Even when he did leave and poured into the WW Hulk it wasn't enough.

Ah, I think now you're starting to understand.
Do you know what fear is like? Do you know how the first day on a new school was always like? You were excited, yet a little bit afraid! Take that and multiply it with 100 and then you have how a phobia feels like.

Your body feels weak, your mental state is all messy. Sentry has a phobia too and it was intense during the WW Hulk arc. It should be obvious that he is not in his prime during that time.
When he is in his prime, he takes Hulk's best shots without even flinching.
And while a mental instability is a part of the character, we should still not concentrate all too much onto it, because that's what you're now doing. You're taking Sentry's fight with WW Hulk, where Sentry was mentally unstable and that's the way you judge the character.
You ignore the fact that there were times before and after, where he was clear minded and where he was owning everything.

He would also own Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state and besides that he's been defeated just the same anyways. Either way you look at it I win. Yes, he was in a weak mental state prior to the fight but cut loose on the Hulk. The comic made it plain as day according to this writer Sentry went all out like he's never done before. He wasn't portrayed as being less powerful just not powerful enough to get the job done. Bob lost because he was ko'd. That isn't a stalemate.

You do know that it was WW Hulk's book right? And that he was supposed to win in that fight, right?
They had to place the story correctly, so that he would be able to own everyone. Hell he even defeated Zom Strange by brawling it out, even though Strange would have been able to solo Hulk, especially if powered by Zom. Pak knew it and he had to find a different way to get past it.
The same happened during Hulk's fight with the X-Men. Come on, Darwin teleporting away? -__-

The same thing happened with the Hulk VS Sentry fight. Pak depowered the Sentry for this particular fight, so that the Hulk would be able to take him on.
He also made the Sentry brawl it out and release energy / losing the control over it. Sentry is a hero ... why should go out without a reason and start destroying the city, taking the home of all the people? It's because he was mentally unstable and if that's the case he does not have that much power under his dissposal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Professor Hulk was easily overpowered. Sentry has a calming effect on him that's just situational. Sentry burning out his powers against a high end Hulk is flat out pathetic. Thanos goes runs with cube beings while the Sentry can't even put down the WW Hulk.

Professor Hulk was able to punch Thanos around :-X Something like that would never happen to the Sentry, who was not flinching when Savage Hulk threw the train onto him. Then Sentry used his powers to calm the Hulk down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're in denial and not very good at debating. I feel bad for you.

You're taking the words out of my mouth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state especially if you can weather the storm from him. It's called story telling. There is no explanation why it took him as long as it did just as there is no mention he's weaker in the story. They do mention he's never released so much of his power before and that's why he burns himself out. We puttered out. Pak admits it in an interview he wasn't weak by any means. It's just you making excuses.

Do you want to know something funny? I know more about the Sentry then Pak knows. I know more about the Sentry, then you do.

And no, It's not me making excuses, since Sentry is not limited to a city buster, but it looks like you're failing to see it. Sentry is destroying multiple planets, while vastly holding back. It's that simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Inconsistency in comics things don't always gel together. We see Flash struggle to hit lightspeed in one arc then go far beyond it easily in another. Blue Marvel was fighting other characters that's why he didn't react. He was taken by surprise. You're really bad at this.

No, Blue Marvel was pushing other characters around and the last action he did was punching Iron man to the ground. During that, Sentry speedblitzed him into the ground from above. During one punch, Sentry traveled from the space, to the Earth and speedblitzed him. Blue Marvel was not able to react to that, just the way Thor was not able to react to the speedblitz in die midair, where Sentry took him away from Osborn.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stopped or beat the same meaning. Yes, sentry lost control and had to be stopped. Bruce did so. Thanos woulda killed him and easily. Lucky he ran into Bruce Banner.

Sentry > Hulk
Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy twists showings around left and right. Yes, he was afraid of losing his control over his power as the Sentry. He usually is. It's a staple in the character not just this arc. You seem quite ignorant though when it comes to the Sentry so I can't get mad at you. Sentry was mentally unstable then but then again he is a lot of the time you can't just wish that part of his character away.

The difference is ... During WW Hulk Sentry was afraid he would lose the control over his powers and he did lose the control over them, starting leveling city blocks, half of the city.
In a different isntance, he was afraid of the damage he could do to the planet, when he faced Photon. Photon teleported them into a microverse, Sentry cut loose and started destroying planets, while still holding back.

The point is ... We KNOW that he was mentally unstable during WW Hulk, and we DON'T KNOW about his stability during the Photon fight. He looked a lot more confident though.

The problem is that you're only riding on Sentry's showings, where he was in a weak state, yet you ignore every single one of his high showings. You're doing so to give Thanos a fighting chance.
Yet when it comes to forum fights, we don't simply downgrade a character, so that the other one would have a chance. We use characters, when they're at their peak and during WW Hulk Sentry was not at his peak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why would he need one in a fight ? At least he never struggled with lifting a helicarrier.

Good thing that lifting the Helicarrier is not Sentry's only showing, right?

You know, other showings like where he was forcing Hercules to use strenght against him, or when he was lifting a giant cruise ship, which was full of water, or where he was containing an escaping Cosmic Cube.

Either you can say that Sentry was containing the escaping energy of the Cosmic Cube, or that he was holding the escaping Cosmic Cube physically. Both showings are great, since you should know how much energy a Cosmic Cube has, and an escaping Cosmic Cube sank an entire island once, which weighs a lot more then a Helicarrier.

Yet again you fail miserably to prove something, don't you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Professor Hulk is Hulk. They don't call him Professor Hulk in comics they call him Hulk.

LOL!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry didn't lack power he lacked the power to finish the Hulk. He poured it into him it just didn't put him out. Whoops.

1.Collateral damage isn't indicative of power level. Just because Odin doesn't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean he is holding back either. Sentry poured the bulk of his power into the Hulk he just took it.

2.Ok.........I never said he was completely incompetent but the Collective was just an impressive showing that's it. Nowhere near as impressive as Thanos' best showings.

1. Already adressed that over and over again. In my last responses, in my responses in other threads and even in this posts.

2. Sentry was in a weak mental state when he was facing the Collective and stalemating him for a while. He was the one who was in disadvantage, since additionally to that the Collective was inexperienced with his powers, but yet he was easily able to kill Alpha Flight and overpower Binary and yet an unstable Sentry was able to take him on. He got BFR'd, he continued shortly after and continued fighting.

Imagine what a stable Sentry does to Collective. HE DESTROYS HIM, NYEHEHEHEHE.

Originally posted by quanchi112
3.Yes, he can destroy planets but so can Terrax. Not particularly impressive when considering other elite top tiers. LOL.

Sentry was bored while he dodged Terrax' attacks, stopped his attack, broke his hand and broke Terrax' cosmic axe. No one ever overpowered Terrax that easily.

How many other elite top tiers do you know who destroy multiple planets, while holding back? Gladiator is supposed to be an elite top tier and he needed few full powered strikes to destroy a planet.
World Breaker Hulk's and empowered Red She-Hulk's coalision destroyed one planet.

Sentry stands above all of these people, he also stands above Thanos, face it.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep ignoring it but it's still canon.
Yes, but the Sentry can't beat Thanos. He can't keep him down and he's mentally weak. Thanos isn't. Thanos can also cause permanent death.

Sentry can beat Thanos and he would. Sentry is only mentally weak, if you wish him to be for this particular fight and that's your only wish, since otherwise Thanos doesn't stand a chance. Sentry was not always mentally unstable. He had sanity showings all over the place and therefore we use his prime showings and not his low showings to judge his power level, because nearly all of his low showings were there for the sake of the plot. To give the other characters a chance.

AOD Thanos can cause permanent death and it's still a debate in this thread if he could do it to the Sentry too. You can't prove that he can, because he never did it to someone like the Sentry, so it's a draw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took it easy on the opposition. He wasn't worried for a moment. You seem to not comprehend the comics you debate about.
The Sentry is mentally unstable. Even in siege it came out and he demanded death. Trying to distance yourself from a character who has always been portrayed as crazy is pitiful.

You're so god damn ...
Already adressed these points over and over again, yet you're ignoring them on a regular basis.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>Void ( the guy wants death after a long battle)
Thanos >Sentry ( burned out by the WW Hulk, overload
ed by the Human Torch, chased off by Skrulls, outmaneuvered by Herc, etc.

Void > Thanos (since it was Robert who was restraining the Void and wishing to be killed to save everyone on the planet)
Sentry > Thanos (since Thanos would not be able to deal with Sentry's speed, strenght, energy output which we saw in the past, when he was in a better condition and not depowered for the sake of the plot)

Sentry > Human Torch (pathetic plot device, since Sentry is able to solo Hammond including all of the other bafoons)
Sentry > evey single Skrull besides Kubik
Sentry > Hercules in terms of everything besides the skill, since Hercules is even more skilled then Thor

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor did enough. One on one Thor doesn't have a chance because he can't weather his attacks but Thanos can. /thread.

Thanos can't do crap. He lacks the strenght and speed to compete with the Sentry, two of the most important attributes, when it comes to a battle. Additionally to that we're talking about comic book characters right now who have so much more under their dispossal and that goes especially for the Sentry with his versatility.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All powerful is hyperbole just as 1 million exploding suns but fans like yourself exaggerate and misrepresent this as 100 percent proof.

The potential in matter manipulation is not hyperbole.
Loki saw that he was not able to do crap to the Void, that his brother was not able to do crap to the Void. That no one on the battlefield was able to do crap to the Void, who was one-shotting everyone. Thanos can't do it as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The heroes lost the upgrade and still managed to harm and later through his own desire to defeat the Void.
Thanos can survive anything he's immune to death. The guy tanked a cc blast he's that durable.

No one besides Thor was able to harm the Void after they lost the upgrade, but at that point the Void was already badly harmed and Thor was the most powerful hero on the battlefield.
He then teleported the Void away and Iron Man dropped the Helicarrier onto him, which caused a nuke-like explosion, which reverted Void back to Robert, who then asked to be killed, while he was restraining the Void, since even when he started turning back to the Void, he was still in control, because "the Void" was screaming: "KILL ME!"

Bendis also said that the heroes were able to defeat the Void, because Robert allowed it to. Bendis simply didn't want to let someone like Spider-Woman say: "Oh boy, if he didn't allow us to defeat him, then we would never have been able to kill him".

And that was the right decision, because it would have been disrespectful to everyone on the battlefield.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Many characters hurt the Void. Thor destroyed his entire body without an amp and he didn't come back because he wanted death.

NO ONE EVER HARMED THE VOID, BESIDES THE SENTRY.

Sentry was always the one who was able to harm and overpower him physically. Do you actually understand that?
The only, only, only, only other instance where someone actually managed to harm the Void was during the Siege, where all the heroes gained a power upgrade, which put him so much above their regular power level.

If you think about that, or at least try to, then you know where Sentry stands with his damage output, when he is mentally stable, since when he is mentally stable, the Void can't take over and has to manifest himself as a separate entity.
And then he gets attacked by the Sentry, pierced and tossed into the sun, because Sentry is that awesome.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor destroyed his entire body. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry. Blue Marvel stunned him for a moment or so. Human Torch defeated him yet your conclusion is Thanos a character considerably more powerful than these guys can't. Biased.

1. Thor had the permission to do something like that. Many people were even thinking that Thor was the only one who would have been able to do something like that and everyone was always saying that Robert asked Thor to kill him, yet Robert was looking into the ground and asked the Avengers to kill him. Thor was the one with the biggest ego and said: "No."

2. WW Hulk was in disadvantage against the Sentry. WW Hulk is one of the most powerful Hulk versions, while Sentry was in a weak condition. Do the math.

3. Human Torch BFR'd the Sentry with an incredibly stupid plot device, since Sentry was more then once near the sun and was doing just fine.

Thanos is more powerful then these guys, but so is the Sentry and in the end Sentry would pwn in a logical fight, where he would use his powers propperly, while Thanos would not be able to compete with the strenght and the speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The other characters couldn't kill them. Just because they aren't pivotal characters that doesn't undermine the sheer power of the feat. Thanos also dominated Lord Mar-vell physically. The guy showed hos powerful he is and Mar-vell wasn't fodder. Do you ever make sense ?

I always make sense.

How many strenght feats did Lord Mar-Vell have? How many feats did Lord Mar-Vell have overall? It's not like the X-Vell family always was over the top in terms of the strenght :-7
And you fail to forget what happened afterwards. I remember Thanos lying on a desk, all strapped with Lord Mar-Vell standing above him.

Besides that there is already a "Lord Marvell vs Sentry" thread, where I'm still waiting for Nihilist to answer to it, as well to answer my posts on the "Thanos VS Sentry" debate, where Sentry obviously wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Bob Reynolds stated kill me. That to me doesn't say he's beyond life since he used the words kill me. Thor killed him and he didn't come back because he didn't want to. Thanos prevents his return as avatar of death. On panel.

2.So ? Thanos proved on panel he can cause permanent death as death's avatar. Thanos has the power to destroy the Void since Thor does. Thor can't prevent his return but Thanos can. Bob also asked for death due to his mental weakness flaring up like it has 60 percent of the time.

Thanos is awesome. I am glad you admitted it.

Robert Reynolds can be killed, but the thing is that he decides to simply return, by manifesting from his very own point of existence in the regular world. Thanos killed a bunch of people in a universe without death. There is a difference and it's also a debate in this thread. It is a difference if someone returns over and over again from the dead and if someone can't kill in the first place, because the universe doesn't know something like the death.

And once again: Thanos himself said that even immortality has it's limit after he asked himself if Champion could surive a fall from the orbit...

And yes, Thanos is awesome. I know more about him, then you know about the Sentry. Let me tell you about my collection of comics, where Thanos appears:
Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Infinity Crusade, Thanos: Infinity Abyss, Marvel: The End, Thanos, The Thanos Imperative ...

How many Sentry comics do you have? Probably not many, therefore your lack of knowledge.

I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.

You have some serious problems, MATE.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor can't beat the Void because he can't weather his attacks. Thor lost his amp and is powerful enough to destroy his body which he did. Void wasn't weakened he as Bob wanted death. Mental weakness. Don't worry Thanos will give him the cure for what ails him.

Thor was not powerful enough, Thor was granted the opportunity to kill Robert, who then decided to never return. It's that simple.

It's not a mental weakness, it's called heroism.

Thanos will have more problems, then you already have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The difference is Thanos is the adult and Senytry is the 10 year old kid here. One on one Sentry doesn't have a chance.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
a. The heroes didn't weaken the Void Bob showed up and wanted death.
b. Thor wasn't powerful enough to keep him dead but was to destroy his body.
c. Yes, Void did kill Loki. Big whoop.
d.Yes, his mental weakness showed up. Unlucky for him. Thanos doesn't have a mental weakness like the Sentry has weighing him down.

a) Doesn't make any sence, so I'm going to skip it ...
b) Thor was allowed to deal the killing blow to an already weakened Void ...
c) Yes, Loki like in Loki, the elite god, the elite comic book character, who got one-shotted through the Norn-stones ...
d) The only instance with the mental weakness was that Void was able to take completely over in the first place. It's heroism which appeared after Void vanished few seconds, where Robert decided to end it all ...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to prove anything. I proved Thanos is. You have no proof Void is. Void asked for death and got it. Thanos comes back and can't die despite wanting it or not. Thanos can cause permanent death to immortals. I proved that you just cried and pouted while I laughed and pointed at you.

Robert asked for the kill, and decided to stay away. You're still talking about Thanos' AOD upgrade, basically the only thing which turns this battle into a stalemate, since no one the fighters would be able to kill each other.

Thanos never killed someone like the Sentry permanently.

Take away that finger and stick it up somewhere else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, the Void has the direct opposition in him which can flare up and want his own death. It's a mental weakness he can't get around. He couldn't even kill Bob's wife he needed someone else to do it because he can't overcome himself. He's a character pitted against himself and it's a huge weakness.

That's the complexity you fail to understand. It was Void who wanted Osborn to get rid of Lindy, yet it was Sentry, who was screaming under Void's possession and even turning into the Void, threatening Bullseye, after Lindy disappeared.
The Sentry is the Void and the Void is the Sentry. It's brilliant.

And it was Sentry's good side who always restrained the Void from killing Lindy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry also has been bested and defeated through power. You want to ignore it all and pretend he was weaker without proof. Your entire argument is based off speculation whereas I post scans of what I claim. I'm awesome you aren't. No biggie.

Oh then go ahead and post scans o_O I can gladly destroy you with the usage of scans too. Right now your arguments are based on lowballing the Sentry, while I'm using his true power level to argue for him. There is not even one speculation in my words.
And I guess you're only big, and nothing else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dr. Strange also had the power to stop the Civil War big whoop. The Sentry like usual ran off because he can't take it. That isn't impressive it's kind of sad. Why bring up something so embarrassing when debating for the character?

You do know that they also got rid of Dr. Strange during the Civil War, right? There is no difference. They exploited Sentry's mental issues to get rid of him, no biggie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In forum battles we argue based off what is likely or on average. Sentry having mental issues is normal. Thanos bests him without it but of course you want to pretend he doesn't have the AOD upgrade because you know he loses.
Thanos bests Sentry with or without it since he can weather his attacks either way. With the upgrade he defeats him easily.

Sentry wins! Adressed all of these points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Height use it to fly into his opponent once or twice but doesn't use it the entire time. He's also used it to fly into punches. Thanos puts up shields or just straight tanks it I mean Thor did so. Sentry went all out and couldn't put an elite top tier down he has no shot against Thanos.

LOL!
Sentry can move faster then Thanos can react. It has been proved in Thanos fights with Captain Marvel who is probably slower then Sentry.

And what are Thanos force fields going to do? Doctor Dooms defensive tech was enough to protect him from a blast of the Infinity Gauntlet, yet it was not enough to hold the Sentry off.
Doctor Doom's shields were at 100% of their capacity, Sentry went through them and ripped apart Doom's armor. Sentry even walked a second time through his force fields and outmuscled Doom who was wielding the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak.
Sentry even impressed Reed Richards by simply going through his stasis field.
What makes you think that Thanos force fields, which have been shattered before are going to hold off the Sentry?


Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Sentry hasn't. Name the foe who is greater than Thanos that Sentry has taken on ? No, it's just a normal showing I mean I'd be embarrassed if the Human Torch bested Thanos though tbh. Glad that never happened. Sentry can't even lift a helicarrier so no I doubt he's even 1/5 as strong as Thanos. Maker, Silver Surfer, power gem Thor aren't weak characters.

Once again you're using Sentry's bad showings, which aren't even bad showings, because they were terrible, terrible plot-devices, to remove him as fast as possible from the battlefield and you're overhyping the named Thanos' showings, but I also adressed these points before, or they have been adressed in the thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesn't need elite top tier feats. I've seen sentry's energy unleashed against WW Hulk. Not to impressed.

You've seen an unstable and therefore weak Sentry taking on one of the most powerful Hulk versions so far, having the upper hand in the entire battle and stopping WW Hulk, and you're not impressed?

Thor had more problems with weaker versions of the Hulk in the past, while a stable Sentry wasn't even flinching when Hulk was attacking him.

Additionally to that one of the weakest Hulk versions, the Professor Hulk was pushing Thanos around and punching him against walls, into walls and so on.

If I were you I would be impressed, but that would require not to be biased towards Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Thanos wins easily. Sentry's mindset is a part of the character this isn't cbr. Thanos didn't take her seriously and only feigned injury. Thanos killed both warlock and gamora before.

Sentry wins.
His mindset is a part of his entire character yes, but Sentry has bad days and he has good days. When he has bad days, he still stalemates WW Hulk and the Collective and when he has good days, he shredds multiple planets apart, while still holding back.

You're doing the mistake that you're only talking about Sentry's bad days, depowering him personally for this particular fight, so that Thanos could win it and that sir is uber pathetic.

Thanos was afraid of Warlock and he trained Gamora to take on Warlock. Thanos also got tossed around by Gamora.

PS: Sentry wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Failing to lift a helicarrier and burning out against WW Hulk doesn't mean he's stronger than Thanos. Both were used against WW Hulk and he puttered out. Sentry can't go past force shields easier than Galactus only way is pure force and he isn't that powerful.

Sentry is that powerful.
Two characters said that Sentry stalemated Galactus, while Thanos begged Galactus to spare his life.

Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
--Comic specifically stated Sentry went all out.
--Yes, he runs I know but why bring that up quit embarrassing the Sentry.
--What ?
Who did what now ?

-- Comics also stated that Sentry was in a weak mental condition, unable to control the amount of his power, he was wielding during that time period and that amount of power was weak.
-- Read comics.
-- Read comics.
-- Read comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>>>Sentry the guy puttered out against WW Hulk.

Sentry >>>>> Thanos, the guy who needs to teleport away from an exploding planet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just said prior to the hero can't lose in his own book. I just gave you an example. Are you slow witted ? Do you understand what is happening around you ?

You're that old and still that behaviour? I pity you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry barely beat him. Blue Marvel would get stomped by Thanos. The guys who give the Sentry a fight wouldn't even register as nuisances to Thanos.

Blue Marvel got defeated by the Sentry in his own book. That actually shows you that even the creators of the character see his opponent as superior.

Sentry > Blue Marvel
Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry was fighting and was getting outclassed. It's funny how suddenly Thanos is trying against Gamora but then here the Sentry isn't trying. Hercules was just all over him. What about the time She Hulk decked him. Who cares about Thor/Hercules they are both more skilled than the Sentry.

Read the comics, dude, read the freakin' comics.

Sentry was trying to talk it out, there was not even one instance where he actually tried to take Hercules out seriously. Hercules blocked Sentry's punch, had to support his arm to hold him, kicked him in the nuts and ran away.

She-Hulk decked Sentry..? Damn, you're so weird, it's not even funny anymore. Sentry BFR'd She-Hulk by tossing her through the city, she returned with a taxi and punched him from behind down, while he was giving an interview. He stood up, was taking her punches, without even bothering, talking to her, punched her away and BFR'd her again.

Thor and Hercules are indeed more skilled then Sentry, but that's about it. Sentry prevails in everything else.
In "What If? Secret Invasion" (yes, I know it's a what If) Sentry was fighting Thor and outpowering him with his speed, since he hit Thor faaar more often. Thor had to attack him from behind, while Sentry was busy with something else. He grabbed him and broke his neck, but told him, that he could have been the best of them all.

But even in canon comics: Sentry > Thor.
Where Thor gets busted by Ymir demons, Sentry explodes through them with his one million exploding suns, while Spider-Man swings Thor to safety.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He slapped them and then faked his own death. That's what happened. He's that good. They aren't threats to him.

They stood up and were perfectly fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is far smarter than the Sentry. Thanos doesn't have half of himself fighting against himself like the Sentry/Void. It's marvel comics that did this not me, mate.
You lost this debate in one post but here you are once again.

Thanos>>>>Void>>Sentry.

Thanos is smarter then the Sentry, but he will not be able to profit from his intelligence, because he is weaker and slower then the Sentry, also less versatile and his energy output is also lower.

Sentry > Void > Thanos, it's all in the comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The same enemies weren't able to be killed by anyone else. I don't care how desperately you try to ignore the feat it's still crystal clear how impressive it was.

Yes, because they were in an universe without death. Should be kinda logical, that no one can kill them there, besides the guy who comes with Death herself and brings the aspect of Death into that particular universe when he uses his powers o_O

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine is more formidable but Thanos is immune to death, more powerful than a guy who burned himself out against the WW Hulk, and far smarter without any mental weaknesses.

You're getting pesky and even more ridiculous with that WW Hulk bullcrap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos fought many characters who can't die. They had no choice but the Void has a choice he can choose to not come back. He is likely to fizzle out anyways but he won't have the option since Thanos can kill characters with no choice in the cancerverse. Void is nowhere near up to the challenge of taking on the avatar of death.

1. Yes, Thanos was fighting Champion and asked himself if the fall from the orbit would kill Champion, because even immortality has it's limits. That were Thanos' words.

2. It's a perfectly understandable logic, that people from Cancerverse don't have the choice to die, because the concept of death does not exist in that universe. Robert Reynolds returns from the death, because he chooses to. He is more then just immortal, he is omnipotent. People from the Cancerverse are not omnipotent, because they can't die. Teleport these people into the regular Marvel universe. Will they be able to die? Probably yes, because death exists in that universe.

3. Avatar Of Death is the only thing which could turn this fight in Thanos' favour. Besides that he has so many disadvantages. Without the AOD upgrade he is lost.

If we go by current versions, then there wouldn't even be a fight, since Sentry is supposed to be dead, even though he is not, since we never saw him returning during Chaos War, where the Chaos King was resurrecting everyone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The comic made it clear he went all out and unleashed himself and it wasn't enough. What showings am I ignoring ? His best power showings are shredding planets and so can the Surfer yet when he runs into Thanos it's akin to running into a brick wall.

His best showings are destroying planets, while holding back, while Captain America was in the microverse. When Photon teleported Captain America away, Sentry's energies escalated and surpassed the microverse. They were visible in the real world, while he was in a microverse, which is beyond the sub-atomic level.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and neither has Thanos. And no: "The very universe screams." doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>>>>Void>>>>>>Sentry, mate.

I already told you how many Thanos comics I have, while you probably don't have even one single comic with Sentry in it. Your Sentry knowledge comes from other discussions, when he was a often used character in forum battles and where Sentry haters posted his "low" showings to downgrade him and totally ignored everything awesome he has ever done and that's what you're basically doing right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, kill me means kill me. Yes, the Void can decide to not come back which he has done. He won't have a choice here.
Thanos kills unkillables and is immune to death. Sentry isn't.

Yet again you're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Void himself said that it's not up to him if he can return from the dead or not. It is Robert Reynolds decision, since he is the one with the power, while Void is simply an aspect of his personality.

Robert always has the choice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's powers were exhausted against the WW Hulk. Should I go look for the Pak interview which would cause you irreparable damage and mental anguish. Please say the word and I will look for it.

Do what you want, I can negatve everything you bring in, because you don't have a clue.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Photon beat him through bfr. That's a forum win.

The very same Photon who left the microverse after we saw Sentry's energy growing, growing and even outgrowing the microverse.
Photon probably never had a different chance but to BFR Sentry and even there he already knew that Sentry would find a way out.

Sentry can teleport at will, while Thanos has to use tech to teleport. He even has to say it. I'm pretty sure that Sentry can act faster then Thanos can speak, so Thanos is the one who will be BFR'd first, so don't even bring the BFR aspect into the debate.

Besides that Sentry has so many other advantages, while Thanos only advantage is his intellect / mind and even for that he needs time, which he would not have in this one, since Sentry is that fast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins you admitted it just a little earlier.
Thanos, 10/10.

I said so often, that Sentry wins o_O

Oh yeah and something else: Sentry wins.
Do you want to know a secret? Sentry wins.
1 + 1 = Sentry wins.

^ Enzeru has finally lost it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^ Enzeru has finally lost it.

This. It's not going to matter to quanchi tho because Thanos is more intelligent/better prep guy/owned all of Marvel/.....you get the picture.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kindly leave before things become uncomfortable for you.



Are you a mod now? You should have sent out an invite list to those people who you deemed worthy enough to comment on your newest Thanos wanking thread with attached talking points, i.e. Thanos is unkillable and can kill unkillable beings, blah, blah!
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I still stick by Sentry in an all out battle. His handling of MM is the tipping point for me.

Originally posted by Badabing
Guys, be civil or use the ignore. Trolling and bashing is not alowed.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thanos' power output is not as devastating as Sentry's.
Show me a scan, where he destroys multiple worlds, while holding back.
Show me a scan, where he cuts loose, while being in the microverse and releases so much energy that it's visible in the real world.

You will not be able to do that, without bringing in the Infinity Gauntlet.
And don't even try to come up with the "and the very universe screams"-instance, since that basically doesn't say shit.

If you still insist on it, then it's even more of a valid feat to bring in Sentry's Galactus stalemate, which was once stated by Spider-Man and also by X-Man, who acknowledged too that he was fighting alongside Sentry against Galactus.

Galactus > Thanos by a laaaaaaaarge margin.
Sentry > Thanos.



Who besides the Sentry ever managed to do something to the Void? Let me answer that one for you. No one.

Void was regulary one-shotting simply everyone on the battlefield, until Loki came up with the Norn-stones and empowered all the heroes greatly.
If Captain America's power upgrade was that high, that he was able to harm the Void, then imagine how high Thor's power level in the end was, before he lost the upgrade.

And besides all that it was still not enough to take down the Void. Only Robert was able to restrain and defeat him.



This is what this board fails to understand.

It's a fact to everyone who was actually reading Sentry comics, that he is weaker, when he is in a weak mental state. It's a fact. He was never doing badly, simply because he was beaten up. Something like that never happened during his entire existance. Every time when he was doing bad, he was in a weak condition.

Him being totally manipulated by Osborn on letting the Void take control over and over again, that is actually being very weak and if he is very weak, his power level sinks.
Do you actually understand that, or do you want me to open Photoshop and draw you a colorful picture?
With his power level probably still low (yet so damn high in the opinion of this entire board), he was trashing Thor during the Siege.
Then the Void took over and it was finally over for Thor, who would have probably been torn apart just the way Ares was torn apart, if Osborn didn't interfere.

Besides that what other instances do we have?
Oh yeah, a depowered Sentry VS WW Hulk. Who had the upper hand in the fight? Right, Sentry.
Who was still mainly brawling it out with his fists with one of Hulk's most powerful incarnations.

I remember Thor having some seeeeeeerious issues with Hulk in the past. Thor without his hammer would have been lost.

Unstable Sentry > Weakened Thor.
Unstable Sentry = (&lt Regular Thor.
Stable Sentry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thor. Dude Sentry is my second favorite character and all your past post did him alot of respect *bow Down*

Originally posted by Enzeru
Yes, because they were in an universe without death. Should be kinda logical, that no one can kill them there, besides the guy who comes with Death herself and brings the aspect of Death into that particular universe when he uses his powers o_O



You're getting pesky and even more ridiculous with that WW Hulk bullcrap.



1. Yes, Thanos was fighting Champion and asked himself if the fall from the orbit would kill Champion, because even immortality has it's limits. That were Thanos' words.

2. It's a perfectly understandable logic, that people from Cancerverse don't have the choice to die, because the concept of death does not exist in that universe. Robert Reynolds returns from the death, because he chooses to. He is more then just immortal, he is omnipotent. People from the Cancerverse are not omnipotent, because they can't die. Teleport these people into the regular Marvel universe. Will they be able to die? Probably yes, because death exists in that universe.

3. Avatar Of Death is the only thing which could turn this fight in Thanos' favour. Besides that he has so many disadvantages. Without the AOD upgrade he is lost.

If we go by current versions, then there wouldn't even be a fight, since Sentry is supposed to be dead, even though he is not, since we never saw him returning during Chaos War, where the Chaos King was resurrecting everyone.



His best showings are destroying planets, while holding back, while Captain America was in the microverse. When Photon teleported Captain America away, Sentry's energies escalated and surpassed the microverse. They were visible in the real world, while he was in a microverse, which is beyond the sub-atomic level.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and neither has Thanos. And no: "The very universe screams." doesn't prove anything.



I already told you how many Thanos comics I have, while you probably don't have even one single comic with Sentry in it. Your Sentry knowledge comes from other discussions, when he was a often used character in forum battles and where Sentry haters posted his "low" showings to downgrade him and totally ignored everything awesome he has ever done and that's what you're basically doing right now.



Yet again you're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Void himself said that it's not up to him if he can return from the dead or not. It is Robert Reynolds decision, since he is the one with the power, while Void is simply an aspect of his personality.

Robert always has the choice.



Do what you want, I can negatve everything you bring in, because you don't have a clue.



The very same Photon who left the microverse after we saw Sentry's energy growing, growing and even outgrowing the microverse.
Photon probably never had a different chance but to BFR Sentry and even there he already knew that Sentry would find a way out.

Sentry can teleport at will, while Thanos has to use tech to teleport. He even has to say it. I'm pretty sure that Sentry can act faster then Thanos can speak, so Thanos is the one who will be BFR'd first, so don't even bring the BFR aspect into the debate.

Besides that Sentry has so many other advantages, while Thanos only advantage is his intellect / mind and even for that he needs time, which he would not have in this one, since Sentry is that fast.



I said so often, that Sentry wins o_O

Oh yeah and something else: Sentry wins.
Do you want to know a secret? Sentry wins.
1 + 1 = Sentry wins. Thanos wins

I've no interest in this fight but enzeru has some point that need more clarification like sentry's energy shown in real world from microverse. First distance between dimensions or universes is meaningless as they occupy the same space and are seprated by vibrational frequncies. So the notion that sentry produced so much energy that he was destroying planets and it's light crossed an entire universe within such a short amount of time is absurd and speculative at best for many reasons like light can't cross dimensions. That's more likely to be an aperture or dimensional doorway to the spot Genis took sentry. If visibility from a large distance is a meter to destructive power, take a look

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/60/speed6gj.jpg

Here Eradicator can be spotted to literally the edge of the universe, I mean he must be far, far, far, far above planet buster, right?


Now I expect enzeru to post something gigantic blaming it to Bendis and once again correcting us foolish mortals about the almighty "stable sentry".

Oh and I forgot to add another dimensional crossing, here Orion FLEW from New genesis to earth under a heart-beat

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/fangirl101_photos/Orion/ng_16_p04.jpg

Tell me how fast Orion is? Surely faster than anybody, right?

Check out best sentry combat speed feat on-panel (not in enzeru's dreams) as admitted by The golden guardian of truth himself, guys.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg

Ya ain't seen nothin' like it!
Sorry for triple post. I am on my phone right now.

I support u all the enzuru

But Hulk>Sentry

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've no interest in this fight but enzeru has some point that need more clarification like sentry's energy shown in real world from microverse.

How about you stop bringing in DC characters into debates where they don't belong to? You already tried to do it in the "Sentry VS Annihilators" thread and I ignored it exquisitely, just the way I'm going to do it now, because:

1. Eredicator and Orion have nothing to do with the Marvel universe and they have nothing to do with this battle.
You basically tried the same thing back then in the other threads with your Kyle / Oblivion non-sense.
No one cares about that, so get lost.

2. But even besides, that - you're assuming right now things and not paying actual attention.
Microverses are something from Marvel. If you google it, you will come across few sites with informations in it.
DC has nothing to do with microverses, since they "only" exist in the Marvel universe.

>>> http://marvel.com/universe/Microverse
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microverse
>>> http://www.comicvine.com/microverse/34-43832/

1. No one likes you, Rajesh and your attitude is the reason for it.

2. The scans I will post are speaking for themself. You see the characters talking about it and you see their actions. The narration says it also, where it talks about Sentry's unfathomable energies.

At first, Sentry refuses to fight, because he is afraid the Earth could suffer. Then Photon teleports them both and Captain America away and they start destroying worlds (try to keep in mind, that they were shrinked beyond the sub-atomic level, where atoms were like planets to them).

Photon teleports Captain America to safety and they cut loose. Pay attention at the different looks of their energies. While Sentry's is golden, Photon's is crystallish blue and what color has the energy that expands the microverse, so that you can see it in the real world on Iron Man's armor, the place where the microverse is? Hell yes, it's golden and belongs to the Sentry!

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

PS: Light does not have to be destructive energy, especially because we already saw Sentry releasing a similar energy waves which were destroying New York, while he was unstable and there we see him releasing energies, which are tearing apart various planets, while he is holding back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Check out best sentry combat speed feat on-panel (not in enzeru's dreams) as admitted by The golden guardian of truth himself, guys.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg

Thanks for posting that scan. I would post it too to support Sentry's speed, you big bafoon.

That scan is awesome. Sentry is simply everywhere on the picture and not slightly fading out, he is basically everywhere, because he is that fast.

Flash is doing something like that, when he appears at the same spot twice, to fool someone and make it look like there are Barry and the Flash standing at the same time.

Besides that what is Sentry doing there? He is repairing a tower and uber-speed. What does he need for that? He flies from point A to point B and do action C, then he flies from point B to point A, to pick up the thingy for the action C, then he flies from point A to point B, to do action C again.
That requiers him to stop and take off over and over again, something which should slow down characters, because they always have to start again, yet he is doing it so fast, that he is still everywhere over the picture.

Since when can Thanos move that fast? Oh wait, he can't, lol! He has to wait for fast characters to make mistakes, to actually tag and attack them, lol!

Sentry > Thanos
Enzeru > Rajesh

^ I love it when someone tries to play DC or marvel card. You might be surprised to know but common sense is universal. Marvel's multiverse was based upon DC multiverse before COIE and even the basic knowledge of how parallel dimensions works can tell you that distance between universes is meaningless. We saw what happens when sentry let loose in wwh, a few buildings were destroyed and your conspiracy theory starts with Greg pak depowering sentry. Once again who is Rajesh? Mind your own damn business, kmc is not your property.

^You are simply deluding yourself if you think that laughable speed feat is even remotely close to flash level. Well I've no reason to continue this conversation, good luck with quan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^ I love it when someone tries to play DC or marvel card. You might be surprised to know but common sense is universal. Marvel's multiverse was based upon DC multiverse before COIE and even the basic knowledge of how parallel dimensions works can tell you that distance between universes is meaningless. We saw what happens when sentry let loose in wwh, a few buildings were destroyed and your conspiracy theory starts with Greg pak depowering sentry. Once again who is Rajesh? Mind your own damn business, kmc is not your property.

^ I hate it when someone enters a battle-thread and talks about non related crap. Do you see anyone comparing the Marvel characters to any DC characters? I don't.

Microverses are Marvel's thingy to play with and you tried to talk about other instances, which were still not related at all to the entire debate. The people who are actually reading the posts in this thread already have enough to read, so they can probably skip your DC non-sense to prove a point, which doesn't matter at all, since Marvel's microverse is not DC's multiverse and Sentry and Thanos are not Eredicator and Orion.

We also saw what happened before Sentry entered the battle. He was standing for nearly two days in the front of his door, unable to leave the house. With his mental issues that high, he is weaker and then we saw what happened when he lost the control over these powers (one more proof for him being unstable and causing damage in billions, destroying the homes of ordinary, hard working people).

It's not a conspiracy, it's a well known fact to everyone who uses his brain to think and not to memorize all the various porn sites.
Sentry is a character with a phobia. A phobia which can change his life in the negative way, if it overwhelms him and if something like that happens, he isn't as effective as he could be. But when he has a clear mind, he is godlike.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^You are simply deluding yourself if you think that laughable speed feat is even remotely close to flash level. Well I've no reason to continue this conversation, good luck with quan.

I never said that Sentry comes close to Flash's speed. If he would, then I would vomit like a champion.
I have no intention in making him so overpowered like many of the DC characters, without having an actual explanation / reason behind it.

The speed-force which ignores the laws of physic and lets Flash save 500.000 people in 0.0000001 seconds is one of the most pathetic ideas DC ever came up with and it's not like it's the only ridiculous idea.

Fact is, that Sentry is fast enough. He does not have to be able to travel from the Earth until the end of the multiverse in 1337 seconds.
That would be non-sense, but besides that, he can teleport, so who cares, lol!

Sentry is fast enough. Fast enough to travel all around the globe in a matter of seconds without even trying it. Then he saves people, or he repairs stuff at a high speed. The thing is that these actions can also be brought in into a fight and Thanos never, ever shown that he has the speed to compete with something like that.

As I already adressed it more then often, even Captain Marvel was able to vastly outspeed Thanos. Thanos has also been tagged by regular brawlers on a regular basis.
He is not fast, he will probably never be and he would take so much damage before he could start to attack.

And yeah, it would be the best thing if you simply go away and don't try to continue to debate, since you're clueless.
I don't think that KMC belongs to me, why should I? I simply don't like to bother with people who are biased, but in the end they're simply clueless and can't debate propperly.

... I AM LOOKING AT YOU, NIHILIST AND QUANCHI!
Besides that, Nihilist was already talking about a bet, where the loser would have to leave KMC once and for all, if he loses the debate and right now I have yet to see Nihilist bringing in valid arguments and debate for Thanos.

But, that's pretty much a Mission: Impossible. Not even Tom Cruise would be able to do that, since Thanos has nothing besides his current AOD upgrade to compete with the Sentry, who is stronger, faster, has a higher energy output, ignores force fields, teleports around, has a better molecule manipulation and also has the Void if someone tries to mess with his mind.

a) Sentry wins.

b) 10... 9... 8... 7... 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... Sentry wins...

c) a)

d) Houston, we have a winner! It's Sentry. He wins.

^You are hopeless.

^ Doesn't matter, because I'm handsome. Sentry is also handsome. One more area, where he owns Thanos, lol!

lol

Damn this guy is boss gangsta

Originally posted by abhilegend
Check out best sentry combat speed feat on-panel (not in enzeru's dreams) as admitted by The golden guardian of truth himself, guys.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg

Ya ain't seen nothin' like it!
Sorry for triple post. I am on my phone right now.

You guys think thats faster than flying half way across the world, taking care of a crisis, and coming back before Lindy could take a pee? Just wondering.

the last 2 pages made my day

Originally posted by abhilegend
Once again who is Rajesh? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PX5a_uc0zHc/TaSoP5WTe5I/AAAAAAAAArk/cO5XYne2Ngs/s400/rajesh_90422502.jpg

Rajesh Koothrappali

probably simply an insult cause you're from india

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thor didn't do crap. Thor got speedblitzed in the mid-air and was not able to react. That happened to Balder and Ares too.
Thor was just lucky that he could BFR Sentry with a Mjolnir smack. After Sentry returned Thor was doomed. Thor tanked the hit and Thor got in the next attack not the Sentry. Kinda destroys your speedblitz argument not that anyone ever took it seriously in the first place. Ares also stuck an axe into his side and attacked him more than once. The difference is Ares and balder are jokes compared to elite top tiers let alone Thanos. Be serious.


Taking out Ares and Loki is a far cry from the Silver Surfer let alone Thanos. You need to prove the Void can take out someone above top tier with relative ease because he's failed to do so against Captain America. Iron Man took him on and defeated him by himself before as well as the Sentry. I mean do you expect anyone to ignore the Iron Man, Human Torch, Hercules, and Siege showings just because you claim he was weakened and begin making more excuses than The Ramsey parents.
I just gave two examples of characters he did have the skill, intelligence, and competence to put it into practice. Another this doesn't count moment. Nothing counts against the Sentry and Thanos' wins don't count. This is getting rather ridiculous on your part I expected a little more. Sentry used his speed against Hercules and Thor it didn't matter. Herc continually outmaneuvered him. Thanos hit Marvel yes. Thanos also doesn't always fight to the best of his abilities with shields yet he still hit his opponent. It works both ways. We've already seen the Sentry not ever speedblitz an opponent anyone near Thanos' level and someone far below it in Thor reacted and landed the next attack.

Originally posted by Enzeru
At least try to argue and come up with valid points, otherwise search for a Thor-related thread and debate there.

PS: Sentry > Thor.

this comment is a joke. Thor is sentries superior.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Rajesh Koothrappali
probably simply an insult cause you're from india

Exactly, but not because he is from India, but because he behaves like a nerd-fool who likes to offend people in the internet because he feels way too safe behind his monitor, yet when it probably comes to pulling off something in real-life, he whispers it into the ears of his so called "friends".

At least that's my personal impression I have after watching him insulting me without a reason in previous threads.
I don't like it when someone tries to insult me in the internet, while I'm actually nearly always friendly.

Thanos would teleport and win a race as well. He's smarter than the Sentry. Sentry moved at high speeds against Thor and WW Hulk. As the Sentry he didn't win either fight. Bring me something impressive not more excuses about why he couldn't best weaker foes than Thanos. Get serious.
Thanos isn't just smart he's powerful. Thanos beats the snot out of guys that have killed the Sentry(with his permission). Thor--with the power gem even. A much more powerful dangerous Thor who didn't even want to kill the Void until he forced his hand into being that violent. Yes, the Sentry is the guy by character who has mental problems plaguing him. It's how he's always been portrayed you somehow think we ignore that. Do research on him.
Bob asked them to kill him because he couldn't even control himself or his actions. That isn't noble that's pathetic.

Thanos has faced far superior characters than the Sentry who has been bested by the Human Torch and burned out against WW Hulk. Get real.
Sentry isn't above the Silver Surfer. The Void is but you stated the Sentry. The Sentry has been bested by far less than the Surfer. Torch. Iron Man. Doom reached new heights of power with the Surfer's power and who cares about Doom the Surfer isn't going down to the Human Torch. Torch is gonna burn ya.

Yes, the Sentry did burn himself out and reverted back into his human persona. It hurts so good does it not ?

The Void screamed kill me and Thor did so thus proving he can die. Guilt and a weak mental state is why he'd want to die. Why ask me why he'd want to die because it already happened on panel I don't make things up I argue based on what has already occurred. You argue on hypotheticals and baseless claims.

That's a sign of not even having control over yourself it isn't noble it's sad. Yes, Sentry can defeat the evil side of himself but that doesn't mean Sentry is better against other threats outside himself. He is weighed down by guilt the Void isn't. You should already know this by now.
Yes, Void's first showing was impressive but we've seen him in siege as well. Guilt weighs him down and in both stories he went away before killing any major elite top tier hero. This actually backs Thanos winning a war of attrition. Thanks.


Yes, Thanos toyed with his foes. He was putting on a show for his lady not trying to oneshot everyone in his path. Torch defeated the Sentry. Everytime you want to harp on Doom I will bring up someone weaker defeating the Sentry.

Sentry is barely better than him but Thor is powerful enough to affect him. On panel it was a back and forth type thing.


Thanos used them to fake his own death. Try understanding his intentions I mean She Hulk punched the Sentry down on her own. Sentry wasn't trying to prove a point there either. Thanos brought down a universe in Thanos Imperative.

Thanos brings down planets not something hovering over Oklahoma. That isn't in Thanos' class of feats.

Void didn't oneshot Thor. He didn't even oneshot Captain America. Void didn't even oneshot Ares. He oneshotted Loki big whoop.
They didn't depower him he went all out. It wasn't enough. You speculate he was depowered without any proof. That's why you are a baseless poster. You can't prove anything. You never do. You just blow smoke I breathe Fire.

Sentry's powers can be limited by his mind his major weakness. That wasn't the case against WW Hulk.

Iron Man messed with his mind and so did the Skrulls. Many can mess with his mind including Norman Osborne. I don't mean mind raping I mean simply by talking to him. Thanos is very cunning it's one of his greatest strengths.

Void can beat savage hulk but then again so can Thanos. WW Hulk can burn out the Sentry not Thanos.

Because Thanos is death's avatar. He has killed immortal beings while the Void hasn't.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Ah, I think now you're starting to understand.
Do you know what fear is like? Do you know how the first day on a new school was always like? You were excited, yet a little bit afraid! Take that and multiply it with 100 and then you have how a phobia feels like.

Your body feels weak, your mental state is all messy. Sentry has a phobia too and it was intense during the WW Hulk arc. It should be obvious that he is not in his prime during that time.
When he is in his prime, he takes Hulk's best shots without even flinching.
And while a mental instability is a part of the character, we should still not concentrate all too much onto it, because that's what you're now doing. You're taking Sentry's fight with WW Hulk, where Sentry was mentally unstable and that's the way you judge the character.
You ignore the fact that there were times before and after, where he was clear minded and where he was owning everything.

He would also own Thanos.
Except the Sentry overcame that phobia when he left his house. He pouted out all his frustration and power into the Hulk and finally released it all. The Sentry can't easily shrug off the WW Hulk's best sorry they fought already and you can't excuse the showing simply because you're upset. Thanos would own both the WW Hulk and the Sentry.

I also know Sentry beat the Blue Marvel in his own book so I cited the same crappy reason you said the hero had to win and proved you wrong. That's called debating. What you do is called making excuses.
Oak didn't depower the Sentry he had him unleash all his power into the WW Hulk. I will find that interview if it's still online and for your sake I'd pray Quan doesn't find it because Pak will back my reasoning not yours and then you will have no choice but to concede. He was mentally unstable but he went all out against WW Hulk and had to be stopped. Bruce stopped him. End of story.


Professor Hulk did punch him but then again She Hulk punched Sentry to the ground. Iron Man defeated him as did the Human Torch. Thor destroyed his entire body with one attack. Yeah, Thanos stomps.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Do you want to know something funny? I know more about the Sentry then Pak knows. I know more about the Sentry, then you do.

And no, It's not me making excuses, since Sentry is not limited to a city buster, but it looks like you're failing to see it. Sentry is destroying multiple planets, while vastly holding back. It's that simple.
Pak wrote the Sentry so what your opinion is has no bearing on what his story did with regards to the Sentry. He makes things canon not you. Sentry poured his power into the Hulk not into the planet. WW Hulk survived it no problem and he was holding back.

Yes, Sentry rushed him when his attention was on the rest of the team who were all fighting him while he had a few seconds of recovery time. Sentry then collapsed right after. I agree Blue Marvel wasn't able to react while fighting an entire team but one on one he could react which is entirely different.

WW Hulk>Sentry because he won. Thanos>>>Sentry since Iron Man and the Human Torch have defeated him.


Yes, he lost control couldn't stop so Bruce Banner stopped him. He thanked Bruce for stopping him. You are speculating and favoring one showing over another and wildly speculating.
I am citing examples to back my claims your claims are Thanos has never faced anyone like him. That isn't debating. That's just wasting bandwith. We look at the majority of how they are portrayed and the Sentry/Void brings a lot of baggage while being far weaker than Thanos. Thanos is immune to death the Void isn't. I backed my claims you haven't. You want to ignore the helicarrier while saying he's stronger than Thanos while ignoring he wasn't even portrayed as an equal in terms of strength against WW Hulk.
That's not very impressive considering he's an elite top tier. Maybe that impresses you but not me.

Yes, he's strong but not as strong as Thanos. Thanos resisted a cc's power in koing him straight up. That's far more impressive than just holding one.
You haven't proven anything. I have.


1. No, you pretended things didn't count and rambled on that isn't debating.

2.Seems to me like a lot of showings where he's in a weakened state of mind. Stalemating the Collective isn't that impressive anyways since Thanos has beaten the Maker and easily on panel.

That's speculation considering the Sentry didn't even destroy Hercules on panel or Thor.


Surfer has easily bested Terrax. Morg has bested terrax. Terrax isn't that impressive. The manner in which he handled terrax was but the guy isn't up to taking on WW Hulk or the Surfer. Thanos has destroyed another character the Surfer who has easily bested Terrax.

Anything Sentry does Thanos does better.

Thanos would wipe his ass with the Sentry the guy who struggles with leaving his apartment.

Sentry is mentally weak a lot of the time and it comes out in prolonged fights and guess what he can't ever put Thanos down. Ever. Yes, and no showing of the Sentry's comes anywhere near Thanos' best. None.

Thanos can kill immortal beings so he kills the Sentry since Thor can with sentry's permission.


Have I struck a nerve ?

You keep saying baseless claim after baseless claim. Try to prove something.

Back up your assertion Thanos cannot take on someone with the speed and strength of the Sentry despite Hercules,WW Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and the Human Torch doing so.

The skrulls easily screwed with his mind and got rid of him. How noble for a hero to disappear when the going gets tough.

Human Torch still defeated someone vastly more powerful. That's pathetic.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thanos can't do crap. He lacks the strenght and speed to compete with the Sentry, two of the most important attributes, when it comes to a battle. Additionally to that we're talking about comic book characters right now who have so much more under their dispossal and that goes especially for the Sentry with his versatility.Iron Man didn't lack the strength or speed. Hercules didn't lack the strength and speed. Human Torch didn't lack the strength and speed. Blue Marvel didn't lack the strength and speed to compete with him either. Thor didn't lack the strength and speed. I just cited numerous examples of characters weaker than Thanos not only competing but some actually defeating the Sentry. Thanos is far more powerful than any of these characters/immune to death/able to cause permanent death/has abilities to counter speed and far too cunning/intelligent for the Sentry/Void.


Thor killed him with his permission. That's called destroying his body. Loki knew he couldn't put the Void down but Loki's been unable to best Thor as well so really nothing amazing about it. Void didn't oneshot Thor, etc. Who did he oneshot other than Loki ? Honestly ?


The rest of the avengers all pale in comparison to Thor so really what are you trying to prove that street levelers can't really harm him. Nicely done. Yes, a nuke like explosion caused the guilt to manifest itself in the guise of Bob who demanded death. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body.
Yes, I acknowledge that but Thanos doesn't need his help since he can cause permanent death. /thread. It was over in the first post.
Lots of characters harmed the Void including Thor who destroyed his entire body. The Void could have come back if not for himself wanting death but this is Thanos who doesn't need anyone's help he's Thanos, mate.
I understand you are lying to yourself and it needs to stop. Thor destroyed his entire body with one attack. That's not only harming but destroying his entire body. Thanos oneshots him.
Thanos>>>>>>>Sentry.

1. He asked Thor to do so and he ended up granting the request.

2.I agree WW Hulk was in a disadvantage since he had to protect the people since the Sentry lost his composure. Hulk still overcame.

3. That's still a win. Man, that sucks the Human Torch beat him. That's pretty bad.
Glad to hear you admit Thanos is more powerful and since stupider/weaker characters than Thanos can best him then so can he. Awesome.


There's a first time for everything I await with fevered anticipation.
Lord Mar-vell was powerful enough to oneshot the Magus, easily ward off Nova and destroy Surfer's board with minimal effort thus proving he's beyond elite top tier. I mean guys far below elite top tier such as Iron Man and Human Torch have outright defeated the Sentry before. Thanos used his cunning to trick him. Yes, he made Mar-vell feel he was getting what he wanted but in the end destroying life's champions hold over that universe.
Yes, I just brought up an extremely powerful character Thanos effortlessly slapped around. Get back to me when the Sentry avenges that Human Torch loss. Oh right, he's dead. My bad.


He didn't decide to return in a reasonable amount of time he loses. Againast Thanos he doesn't get the choice but once he's mentally compromised he won't want to come back anyway but don't worry he doesn't have the choice against the avatar of death.

Thanos caused what couldn't be caused by anyone else due to his power over death. That's it. He's immune to death the Void isn't. That isn't speculating that's a fact.

I could care less about your box of comics.
A lot more than you apparently.
I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.

You have some serious problems, MATE.You are my little mate. I am trying to educate you.


Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body. He could have returned on Thor but mentally wanted death so he didn't come back.

Heroism isn't slaughtering your friends, Ares or abandoning earth to the Skrulls or suicide. Heroism is taking control of your life and atoning. So much to learn from me, mate.

Thanos>>>>Sentry.

Originally posted by Enzeru
a) Doesn't make any sence, so I'm going to skip it ...
b) Thor was allowed to deal the killing blow to an already weakened Void ...
c) Yes, Loki like in Loki, the elite god, the elite comic book character, who got one-shotted through the Norn-stones ...
d) The only instance with the mental weakness was that Void was able to take completely over in the first place. It's heroism which appeared after Void vanished few seconds, where Robert decided to end it all ... a. Concession accepted.
b. Void wasn't weakened at all. Void/Bob just wanted to die while Thor had the power to destroy his body.
c. Loki was oneshotted but he isn't the most durable character out there to begin with.
d. That isn't heroism it is called cowardice not being held accountable for your actions.
Yes, but Thanos can cause permanent death so who cares. I am talking about Thanos ala Thanos Imperative sorry you seem quite scared of avatar of death Thanos. It isn't going away. Thanos killed a bunch of beings who didn't have the power to go away that's more impressive than simply being too scared to come back.


Yes, I understand that but these personalities can overlap one another. The Void wanted total control and didn't have it even then but hoped this would push him further to the edge of sanity to let the Void completely take over. In Siege it happened but then Bob manifested and the guilt made him regret his actions and demand death.

I know it was his good side. There are two sides opposing each other in him constantly jockeying for position.


I already posted scans you cannot refute. It's already over but the crying. Thanos oneshots him and causes permanent death.


I just brought up another example of someone else powerful enough to end it. It wasn't just the Sentry yet Strange didn't run away because he got scared.

Thanos oneshots him.

Originally posted by Enzeru
LOL!
Sentry can move faster then Thanos can react. It has been proved in Thanos fights with Captain Marvel who is probably slower then Sentry.No, because the Sentry hasn't moved faster than Hercules/Thor/WW Hulk/Ares/Human Torch/Blue Marvel/Photon have been able to react to before. Thanos easily waved down Thor's hammer and easily stopped Fallen One's speed by simply raising his hand. I don't even need to bring up Thanos' reflexes against the Surfer in ig either to address this nonsense.
Thanos toyed with Doom. Iron Man's tech not only dealt with sentry's attacks Iron Man bested him.

Sentry is greater than Doom and so is Thanos. Thanos is greater than Iron Man though but so far the Sentry has lost to him. Yes, the Sentry is powerful just nowhere near Thanos level of power.

Thanos forceshields have made Galactus deplete vital energies while he was well nourished before and have held off Omega a character roughly about twice the level of Galactus.



Once again you are distancing yourself from pretty much 80 percent of his showings. I debate with what's happened your debating is sentry is too fast, too strong nonsense without posting evidence in Thanos' history or Sentry's to come to this conclusion.




That Sentry wasn't weak power wise at all he just didn't have enough power to put down WW Hulk.

Thor also has never burned himself out either.

Punching Thanos isn't beating Thanos despite Human Torch and Iron Man both of whom are far weaker than Hulk have defeated the Sentry.


Thanos oneshots him.

Even on good days such as Siege he's come up bad. Thanos oneshots him. He burned himself out while pouring all he had into the WW Hulk still it wasn't enough. The Collective was only stalemated and is nowhere near as impressive as Thanos defeating the maker.

Thanos oneshots him.

Thanos killed Warlock. Warlock has needed Thanos to help save the universe more than once. Thanos also feigned weakness and easily killed her.

Ps. Thanos oneshots him.


Thanos is more powerful.

Sentry had help and it wasn't on panel so we don't know the context.

Human Torch defeated Sentry.

Thanos>>>>>Sentry.

What comics state this ? Sentry also comes with his state of mind it's who he is.


Thanos teleports away because why take damage if you don't have to. Sentry burned himself out destroying a few city blocks in ny. Thanos>>>>>Sentry.

Save your pity for your parents.


That shows you heroes can lose in their own book so you can't use it as an excuse like in WW Hulk.

Thanos>>>>>>Sentry>Blue Marvel

Yes, Hercules showed he's fast enough to make the sentry's speed look awful.
You used Hulk punching Thanos as proof of something so I simply returned the favor.
They are quick enough to react to him just like Thanos. That's a what if and against the rules.
No, the Sentry hasn't beaten Thor the Voidtry is beyond him but not just the Sentry. Not yet anyways.

Yes, he's farrrrrrr and away smarter. Iron Man profited from it as did Human Torch.

Thanos oneshots him.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Yes, because they were in an universe without death. Should be kinda logical, that no one can kill them there, besides the guy who comes with Death herself and brings the aspect of Death into that particular universe when he uses his powers o_O Thanos has powers as the avatar of death. He didn't bring death with him at the onset that's a myth.

Thanos is immune to death on his own and still after his mission was accomplished.


It's still canon. Don't run from canon showings.


1.What does that have to do with the writer's portrayal in Thanos Imperative ?

2.No, he isn't more than immortal he can die and stay dead. he is currently dead as we speak. Reynolds isn't all powerful that's just ridiculous. Thanos didn't bring death to the universe until the ritual destroyed Mar-vell. Thanos killed those in his path prioor to through his power the only reason death came back was the ritual in which Mar-vell died. Think. Learn. Grow.

3. That isn't the only thing but that makes it a curb stomp since he can't come back and it's over with one blast since Thor can destroy his body in one blast.
We go by most current. Don't be silly. Destroying planets is something the Surfer can achieve it doesn't get him very far against Thanos.


You just bragged about destroying planets and now the character who has done so and has lost to Thanos it suddenly becomes unimpressive. You are all over the place stepping all over your own arguments. How sad. World destroying power doesn't mean much to Thanos but to the Sentry's it's pretty high end.


I laughed when you told me. I probably own more Sentry comics than you.

Not against Thanos as he stays dead. But don't worry Thanos could convince him to stay dead if he wanted to.

Just debate.

Photon won the Sentry lost. Canon.

Thanos can teleport without tech but who cares anyways he uses tech it's a part of him stand equipment. Sentry's speed didn't even show an advantage over Thor or Hercules yet you expect me to believe it matters against Thanos.
Thanos is more powerful, more durable (Thor destroyed his entire body with one blast), more versatile, smarter, and more experience.


Here's the thing you can post these long drawn out responses because I am sure until you met me most posters lost interest and you believed you won the debate. You will learn I won't leave. I won't relent. I will crawl into your soul at the end and one thing will remain clear
Quan doesn't change Quan changes you.

Upcoming...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor tanked the hit and Thor got in the next attack not the Sentry. Kinda destroys your speedblitz argument not that anyone ever took it seriously in the first place. Ares also stuck an axe into his side and attacked him more than once. The difference is Ares and balder are jokes compared to elite top tiers let alone Thanos. Be serious.

1. Never said that Sentry speedblitzed Thor into oblivion. I simply said that Sentry speedblitzed Thor in the midair, to take him far away from Osborn and Thor was not able to react to that.

2. Ares stuck the axe into Sentry's body, while Sentry grabbed him, instantly shed Ares' blood and started pushing him away. That was Ares' only action. He tried to fight back, but he got slaughthered, without being able to react to Sentry's attacks. Did you actually see the look on Thor's face while Voidsentry was squeezing the crap out of him? He had the exact same look on the face like Ares before Sentry ripped him apart. Thor was lucky that Osborn ordered Voidsentry to destroy Asgard and while Voidsentry was bullrushing through Asgard and taking the entire city down, Thor only managed to say: "No..." and raise his hammer-wielding arm, to do something against it, yet it was already waaaaaay too late.

Thanos is not faster then these characters and would have some serious problems with Sentry's speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Taking out Ares and Loki is a far cry from the Silver Surfer let alone Thanos. You need to prove the Void can take out someone above top tier with relative ease because he's failed to do so against Captain America.

Captain America? What? What?

I'm pretty sure that Loki would offer Thanos a run for his money. He would not win, but he wouldn't go down as fast as he did in his "fight" with the Void. The same applies for other characters, like Doctor Doom who was doing just fine against Silver Surfer and won most of their encounters, while Silver Surfer even stated, that they're equals, yet Doom was ALWAYS chanceless when it came to his fights with the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iron Man took him on and defeated him by himself before as well as the Sentry. I mean do you expect anyone to ignore the Iron Man, Human Torch, Hercules, and Siege showings just because you claim he was weakened and begin making more excuses than The Ramsey parents.

Iron Man got tossed around and was pretty much chanceless, the way it's supposed to be, while I remember Iron Man doing better against Silver Surfer, then he did against Sentry, LOL!

Iron Man exploited a way to get rid of the Sentry and it wasn't even Sentry's fault, but Reed Richards' since his firewalls of CLOC were bad, Tony hacked them and let CLOC tell Sentry about all the big ass catastrophes which were happening on the planet.
Sentry heard that millions of people were dying and he didn't know who to help at first.

That's not a weakness, it's the proof that Sentry is a great character who doesn't want to see himself as God who has to decide who lives and who dies and that he didn't know how to handle the situation, where he would have saved one million people, while one million other people would have died.

The Human Torch instance was a plot-device to remove the Sentry from the battlefield, so that the other tiny heroes could toy around. Judging by Sentry's power set and his power level he would have been able to solo everyone on the battlefield.

He was never even trying to seriously take Hercules down. But yeah, he got outskilled and that's the way it should be, because Hercules has centuries of fighting experience, while Sentry does not. Hercules also outskills Thor, but it doesn't mean that he is OVERALL more powerful then Thor.

Siege was full of good showings for Sentry. Don't know where your point is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just gave two examples of characters he did have the skill, intelligence, and competence to put it into practice. Another this doesn't count moment. Nothing counts against the Sentry and Thanos' wins don't count. This is getting rather ridiculous on your part I expected a little more.

You didn't give me anything to work with. Everything you were doing from the very first beginning of this thread was lowballing Sentry because of the few bad showings he had, which are perfectly explainable by his mental issues, which he does not always have, yet you're trying to make it look that way.

Fact is that Thanos does not have the strenght and the speed feats to compete with the Sentry and strenght and speed are always important factors. Sentry has a higher energy output then Thanos. He has shown it during his fight with Photon. Sentry has also a lot of other gimmicks, which would come in handy and I adressed all of them more then once. It's just that you fail to accept them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry used his speed against Hercules and Thor it didn't matter. Herc continually outmaneuvered him. Thanos hit Marvel yes. Thanos also doesn't always fight to the best of his abilities with shields yet he still hit his opponent. It works both ways. We've already seen the Sentry not ever speedblitz an opponent anyone near Thanos' level and someone far below it in Thor reacted and landed the next attack.

Sentry never used his speed against Hercules, since he clearly wanted to talk it out. Sentry was speaking entire sentences while he was flying at Hercules. That is not fast, since Sentry already traveled from the orbit to the Earth during one single moment.

Thanos hit Marvel yes, when Marvel made the mistake and allowed Thanos to tag him. Otherwise Thanos got punched and punched and punched by Marvel, not able to block / dodge.

He does not have to defeat Thanos during one speedblitz. He would not be able to do something like that, but that's also not the point of the speed advantage.
Sentry is fast enough, so that Thanos would not really be able to tag him. Sentry is strong enough to harm Thanos. Combine Sentry's speed and his strenght and you have a lot more impact, since for example - boxers are often training their speed, because the speed inflicts much of the damage during a fight.
More speed, more impact damage, more overall damage.

What holds Sentry off from circeling the globe and bullrushing Thanos with all the added force? Nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos would teleport and win a race as well. He's smarter than the Sentry. Sentry moved at high speeds against Thor and WW Hulk. As the Sentry he didn't win either fight. Bring me something impressive not more excuses about why he couldn't best weaker foes than Thanos. Get serious.

Thanos needs to say the word "Teleport". Until he has finished it, the Sentry has already won.

Sentry has far better speed showings then the Thor and WW Hulk instances.

Thor was chanceless during the entire battle, since he only managed to tag Sentry once with the Mjolnir BFR, which didn't do crap by the way. Ares also managed to tag Sentry once and then he died.

In his fight with WW Hulk Sentry was supporting WW Hulk, thanking him for the punches in the face, because he wanted the Hulk to stop him, since he knew that he started losing the control. He was not trying to dodge anything, so there goes your argument.

Read my posts, then you will come across his showings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos isn't just smart he's powerful. Thanos beats the snot out of guys that have killed the Sentry(with his permission). Thor--with the power gem even. A much more powerful dangerous Thor who didn't even want to kill the Void until he forced his hand into being that violent. Yes, the Sentry is the guy by character who has mental problems plaguing him. It's how he's always been portrayed you somehow think we ignore that. Do research on him.

Thanos is smarter then the Sentry and he has the prep-advantage, if the OP gives him prep. You didn't give him prep, it's a random encounter and that one he loses big time.

Thanos never actually destroyed Power Gem Thor. If you're a fan of Thanos, then you should know that .. *cough* .. tech devices .. *cough*

Uhm, Sentry was a character who mentored tons of heroes and inspired them to be even greater. How about you do some research and stop telling a Sentry expert to learn something about the character, I mean what the hell, dude?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bob asked them to kill him because he couldn't even control himself or his actions. That isn't noble that's pathetic.

He was not able to control the Void aspect of him anymore. His last act was to restrain the Void and give the heroes the chance to kill him off. Then Robert never returned.
Robert Reynolds had an illness. Is that a crime? Do you hate sick people? I know some guys from the history books who also hated sick people and got rid of them, if you know what I mean.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has faced far superior characters than the Sentry who has been bested by the Human Torch and burned out against WW Hulk. Get real.

Seriously? Human Torch and WW Hulk again? You are an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry isn't above the Silver Surfer. The Void is but you stated the Sentry. The Sentry has been bested by far less than the Surfer. Torch. Iron Man. Doom reached new heights of power with the Surfer's power and who cares about Doom the Surfer isn't going down to the Human Torch. Torch is gonna burn ya.

Right now you're lying and using some of the worst ABC-logic I've ever come across.

Sentry nearly always defeated Void, when he was in a good mental condition. You're desperately ignoring every single good showing of the Sentry, when he was clear minded and trying to put him into the nutcase bracket for the sake of this particular battle.

If I remember correctly then Doctor Doom took Silver Surfer's powers once, hell maybe even twice, but that's about it. He had more encounters with the Silver Surfer and he won nearly all of them, mostly by using his tech and his magic, yet that was NEVER enough for the Sentry, not even when he had the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak.
Sentry > Doctor Doom = Silver Surfer

Iron Man was trying to flee, when Sentry attacked him. He used CLOC to immobilize Sentry and then continued running away.

Sentry would kill Human Torch with one punch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, the Sentry did burn himself out and reverted back into his human persona. It hurts so good does it not ?

You are probably one of the worst debaters I've ever come across in my entire life. This is now not only limited to comic book forum fights, but to simply every single debate I had in my life.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Void screamed kill me and Thor did so thus proving he can die. Guilt and a weak mental state is why he'd want to die. Why ask me why he'd want to die because it already happened on panel I don't make things up I argue based on what has already occurred. You argue on hypotheticals and baseless claims.

Once again you're lying and writing down miserable crap.

No one ever said that the Void / Sentry / Robert can't die. He can, he already has, but if he dies, he simply returns, if he wants to and after the Siege he didn't want to return, because he knew that the Void would have killed everyone, if he took over again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Thanos toyed with his foes. He was putting on a show for his lady not trying to oneshot everyone in his path. Torch defeated the Sentry. Everytime you want to harp on Doom I will bring up someone weaker defeating the Sentry.

I guess you already gave it up. I don't expect even one valid argument out of your mouth anymore. Do you actually know what plot devices are?
Sentry was in a weakened state, when he took on the Collective, a guy with the powers of 50 mutants, and then he also flew Xorn into the sun, yet Human Torch is too much for him? LOL. Plot devices man, plot devices to remove him from the battlefield. It's that simple. EVERYONE understands that, just not you, because you're a weird one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry is barely better than him but Thor is powerful enough to affect him. On panel it was a back and forth type thing.

Sentry stands above Thor. I already adressed it so many times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos used them to fake his own death. Try understanding his intentions I mean She Hulk punched the Sentry down on her own. Sentry wasn't trying to prove a point there either. Thanos brought down a universe in Thanos Imperative.

Ah, even more lies. Try to follow me now ...

She-Hulk gets BFR'd by the Sentry, returns with a taxi, punches Sentry down from behind and that doesn't bother him at all. He stands up, takes her punches, punchs her away and BFR's her again.

Against ...

A Thanos who fears so many things and even trains Gamora to fight his fights, LOL! Additionally to that he gets smacked around by Professor Hulk, one of Hulk's weakest incarnations, even when he is expecting it and he uses his Death Ray Vision once more to blast an opponent away, just like before when he used it to get rid of Thor and the Thing and also thanked them for punching him far away for the needed distance.
AND THERE YOU SAY THAT THANOS IS TOYING WITH HIS ENEMIES, LOL!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos brings down planets not something hovering over Oklahoma. That isn't in Thanos' class of feats.

Yeah, I saw Thanos vast damage output :-7
Why don't you post ONLY the picture where he blasts Galactus away and skip the scan, where Galactus is peeeeeeerfectly fine afterwards, easily overpowers Thanos who then has to beg for mercy? Would boost your credibility for sure. Oh wait, it wouldn't!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void didn't oneshot Thor. He didn't even oneshot Captain America. Void didn't even oneshot Ares. He oneshotted Loki big whoop.

Void one-shotted Thor and one-shotted everyone else on the battlefield.
That includes Captain America, but the funny thing is that it's freaking unimportant that he one-shotted Captain America. The interesting thing is that he phased through Captain America's shield and one-shotted him then, lol!

Loki has a greater durability then Ares, so what's your point? He molecule manipulated the crap out of Loki, while he tore apart Ares. Both great feats. I have yet to see Thanos doing something like that.

Thanos can dodge attacks from someone like Champion, who does not have super speed as a part of his power set and he has to teleport away, when Champion decides to destroy the planet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They didn't depower him he went all out. It wasn't enough. You speculate he was depowered without any proof. That's why you are a baseless poster. You can't prove anything. You never do. You just blow smoke I breathe Fire.

I always prove it, by writing it down the way it was. If you doubt something, then simply ask for the scans and I will deliver them. No problem.

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/1014/unbenannt1np.jpg

^ In this one, it's explained that his power level scales with his mental stability ...

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8229/2006258sen1yv0.jpg

^ Sentry admits that the agoraphobia is bothering him and he is unable to leave his house for days, while Hulk is on a rampage ...

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2968/aawwh05018.jpg

^ Later on he faces the Hulk, but loses the control over his powers and starts destroying the entire city. There is no point in that for him, but he is so unstable, that he can't control his powers and since his power level scales with his mental stability in this particular instance, he is not dishing out more damage ...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

^ In this battle there was no hint out about his mental stability and he was destroying planets while holding back ...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's powers can be limited by his mind his major weakness. That wasn't the case against WW Hulk.

Writers tend to limit the Sentry, when they need a way to downgrade him, so that he doesn't overpower every single other Marvel Earth-bound hero in a matter of seconds.
You're downgrading him by exploiting his bad showings, which can be linked to his mental instability, so that your Thanos doesn't lose the fight and in the process you ignore all the good showings Sentry ever had.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iron Man messed with his mind and so did the Skrulls. Many can mess with his mind including Norman Osborne. I don't mean mind raping I mean simply by talking to him. Thanos is very cunning it's one of his greatest strengths.

Plot devices, plot devices and even more plot devices.
What else could Iron Man do but to hack CLOC and overload the Sentry with catastrophes all over the planet where countless people die?

What else could the Skrulls actually do to the Sentry, but confronting him with the Void, so that he flies away, and even something like that is only possible if he has a bad day in the first place, since Sentry had as many showings, where he stayed in the battle and faced the Void / battled him off.

Sentry can't be telepathically overpowered / controled. Something like that never happened. But he can be manipulated, if he has bad days. Even Kingpin managed to do something like that.
But for something like that to happen, people need time, his trust and everything else to subdue him. What do you expect Thanos to do in the middle of the fight, while Sentry is punching his face? Talk to him about what? Thanos doesn't know the Sentry. At first he would have to find everything out what he needs to know about the Sentry, but for that he needs prep time and with prep time, he doesn't even have to exploit Sentry's mind, he can simply gather the Infinity Gauntlet again and then he can face the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void can beat savage hulk but then again so can Thanos. WW Hulk can burn out the Sentry not Thanos.

Thanos was fighting Professor Hulk and the Thing ... He never faced stronger Hulk versions, if I remember correctly, so what makes you think, that Thanos could physically take on characters like WW Hulk?
Because he overpowered Lord Mar-Vell? How many strenght feats did Lord Mar-Vell actually have, besides beating down Nova, who was never all about strenght, not even as Nova-Prime?
Lord Mar-Vell attacked the Silver Surfer and the others only with energy based attacks and magic. And besides that, I think that Lord Mar-Vell can't really reach Sentry's energy output. He could destroy a planet or two, but that's about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because Thanos is death's avatar. He has killed immortal beings while the Void hasn't.

If I'm not wrong, then Molecule Man yet has to return from the dead.
Thanos never killed someone like the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Except the Sentry overcame that phobia when he left his house. He pouted out all his frustration and power into the Hulk and finally released it all. The Sentry can't easily shrug off the WW Hulk's best sorry they fought already and you can't excuse the showing simply because you're upset. Thanos would own both the WW Hulk and the Sentry.

Already adressed this with the screenshots. People can overcome their phobia, especially if they really have to and in that fight Sentry had to, because Hulk was intending to kill the heroes.

But it's not like Sentry's power level instantly rises from zero to hero, simply because he left his house. If you fear something and overcome the fear, you still don't feel well in the process, but you know that there are more important things, yet you still feel anxious and weak.
That are basically logical facts. You're being once again biased towards Thanos and trying everything in your might to lowball the Sentry.

Lucky you that Pak didn't continue writing the World War Hulk arc, because he had in mind Hulk owning characters like Thanos.

Sentry > Thanos.
Sentry > WW Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I also know Sentry beat the Blue Marvel in his own book so I cited the same crappy reason you said the hero had to win and proved you wrong. That's called debating. What you do is called making excuses.

What?
It was Blue Marvel's own book and the Sentry defeated him there. Nothing else matters. They were both heroes, brawling it out, while Sentry was an established character and Blue Marvel was someone who had to be hyped up, yet he lost in the end, because the writers knew that Sentry stands above him and judging by the power level he does indeed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oak didn't depower the Sentry he had him unleash all his power into the WW Hulk. I will find that interview if it's still online and for your sake I'd pray Quan doesn't find it because Pak will back my reasoning not yours and then you will have no choice but to concede.

Find it and give it to me. Not like it's going to bother me, LOL! There are showings all over the places which show Sentry having a much higher power level then what was shown during the WW Hulk arc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was mentally unstable but he went all out against WW Hulk and had to be stopped. Bruce stopped him. End of story.

He was mentally unstable and went all out with the power under his dissposal he was not able to wield propperly.
He turned into the bad guy during that story and continued taking Hulk's attacks to tone himself down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Professor Hulk did punch him but then again She Hulk punched Sentry to the ground. Iron Man defeated him as did the Human Torch. Thor destroyed his entire body with one attack. Yeah, Thanos stomps.

Nope, not going to adress this again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pak wrote the Sentry so what your opinion is has no bearing on what his story did with regards to the Sentry. He makes things canon not you. Sentry poured his power into the Hulk not into the planet. WW Hulk survived it no problem and he was holding back.

Pak also made it pretty clear in what condition Sentry was and other writers (especially Jenkins) made it clear that Sentry was an ill man from time to time and that his power scaled with that illness.

A weakened Sentry stalemated one of the most powerful Hulk incarnations, yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Sentry rushed him when his attention was on the rest of the team who were all fighting him while he had a few seconds of recovery time. Sentry then collapsed right after. I agree Blue Marvel wasn't able to react while fighting an entire team but one on one he could react which is entirely different.

Blue Marvel hit Ares and Wonder Man away, punched Iron man to the ground and during that punch Sentry traveled from the orbit to the Earth and speedblitzed Blue Marvel into the ground.
Blue Marvel isn't as fast as the Sentry. Not in terms of traveling speed, not in terms of reaction time, not in terms of fighting speed... He is overall not in Sentry's league when it comes to speed and few other things as well.

Sentry speedblitzed him into the ground. He speedblitzed Blue Marvel, who was doing just fine before, when he was tossing around the other Avengers, who were not in his league. Blue Marvel got one-shotted by Sentry, who took the impact of the speedblitz as well, since he basically tackled a super durable meta human and also hit the ground, yet he was the one who was standing in the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk>Sentry because he won. Thanos>>>Sentry since Iron Man and the Human Torch have defeated him.

Not going to adress this non-sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he lost control couldn't stop so Bruce Banner stopped him. He thanked Bruce for stopping him. You are speculating and favoring one showing over another and wildly speculating.

Nope, I'm not speculating and not favoring anyone, since that's what happened. Sentry took all the hits without trying to avoid them, because he knew that he was losing the control over his powers.

When it comes to forum fights, we're still using the characters at their peak, even in Thanos related threads opened by Quanchi, the guy without a clue.
We don't depower the Sentry, because he had few bad showings where he was mentally unstable and say that that's his regular condition, since he also had very good showings with a clear mind all over the place.

What I'm doing right now, is just being fair.
What you're doing right now, is being biased towards the favorite character and against his opponent.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am citing examples to back my claims your claims are Thanos has never faced anyone like him. That isn't debating. That's just wasting bandwith. We look at the majority of how they are portrayed and the Sentry/Void brings a lot of baggage while being far weaker than Thanos. Thanos is immune to death the Void isn't. I backed my claims you haven't. You want to ignore the helicarrier while saying he's stronger than Thanos while ignoring he wasn't even portrayed as an equal in terms of strength against WW Hulk.

You're using your weird, twisted brain to try to give Thanos a fighting advantage and you have yet to prove that Thanos can permanently kill someone like the Sentry. When you manage to do that, you have the point, but since you won't be able to do so, how about you actually stop talking about it?

And once again you're wrong with the World War Hulk instance. I will post few more scans, because right now you demanded some again. As I said it. Everything I say, I can prove with scans, you just have to ask for it.

In his fight with World War Hulk, Sentry had the upper hand the entire time. Pay good attention at the scans. At the actual fight and what's happening there:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/174/aawwh05008009.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3996/aawwh05010.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1526/aawwh05011.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6475/aawwh05012.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9984/aawwh05013014.jpg

^ In these few scans you see Sentry bullrushing Hulk through few buildings. Hulk knew he was coming, yet he was not able to dodge. He took it. In the last scan you see Hulk hitting Sentry in the face and now watch it ...

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/892/aawwh05015.jpg

^ You see Sentry talking to the Hulk, not attacking him, taking his hits, supporting him with words, while Hulk is all serious ...

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1483/aawwh05016.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6449/aawwh05017.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2968/aawwh05018.jpg

^ Sentry smiles, releases power and busts everything around him away. Hulk falls to the ground, Sentry flies above and his energy escalates, causes damage in billions ...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5415/aawwh05019.jpg

^ Hulk's Warbounds are trying to cut him free from Sentry's energy which subdues Hulk ...

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1690/aawwh05020.jpg

^ You see Hulk holding Sentry's energy in his hands, insulting the people around him and jumping up ...

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7157/aawwh05021.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1020/aawwh05022.jpg

^ Hulk is all serious again and starts getting attacked by the Sentry, slap after slap, obviously unable to defeat himself, until he grabs the Sentry ...

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5948/aawwh05023.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9018/aawwh05024.jpg

^ He starts punching Sentry again, who rather talks then actually fighting back ...

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6576/aawwh05025.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/994/aawwh05026.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5808/aawwh05027.jpg

^ In the end, they brawl it out and revert both back to their human forms ...

And these are the reasons why even Hulk fans say that Sentry was busting him pretty hard during that fight, since Sentry took the fight a lot easier then the Hulk. Additionally to that he was in a weak mental state and didn't want to fight in the first place, because he considers Hulk and him as friends.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he's strong but not as strong as Thanos. Thanos resisted a cc's power in koing him straight up. That's far more impressive than just holding one.

Sentry had more instances with Cosmic Cubes then Thanos.

a) Sentry was holding the Cosmic Cube for a while.
b) Sentry easily overpowered the Molecule Man, who is the half of a Cosmic Cube and is supposed to have vast potential, maybe even the greatest potential of all Cosmic Cube beings, because of his humanity.
c) Sentry harmed Absorbing Man, who was wielding the powers of a Cosmic Cube, yet he also got reality warped the crap out of him by Creel in the very same fight, but then again. I'm always saying that Sentry would have some major issues with a powerful reality warper.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seems to me like a lot of showings where he's in a weakened state of mind. Stalemating the Collective isn't that impressive anyways since Thanos has beaten the Maker and easily on panel.

The Collective easily overpowered planet busters o_O And Sentry was unstable, when he was facing him.

And it's not like Thanos defeating the Maker is that impressive, especially because he needed more time and attacks, than Sentry needed more time to defeat the Molecule Man :-7
Are you impressed by the explosion Thanos survived during his fight with the Maker? Sentry can inflict sooo much more damage and also in a shorter amount of time, because he has the speed to do so, while Thanos has not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer has easily bested Terrax. Morg has bested terrax. Terrax isn't that impressive. The manner in which he handled terrax was but the guy isn't up to taking on WW Hulk or the Surfer. Thanos has destroyed another character the Surfer who has easily bested Terrax.

I actually don't mind ABC-logic.

Terrax jobs a lot, yes, but mostly he can compete, if he faces someone, yet Sentry humiliated him so hard, it wasn't even funny anymore.

Sentry would also destroy Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer is not impressive. Silver Surfer also admitted that Mjolnir is overall more powerful then him, he was not able to keep Mjolnir from Thor, even though he was empowered, he said that Doctor Doom and him would be equals, but yet he lost most of the fights he had with Doctor Doom, yet Sentry would defeat Thor and Doctor Doom like he already has.

The same applies for Thanos. Sentry would defeat Thanos and you have yet to come up with valid arguments to actually start a debate. Everything 'til now was plain old wishy-washy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anything Sentry does Thanos does better.

Yes, anything besides the strenght, speed, energy projection, matter manipulation and all the other gimmicks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can kill immortal beings so he kills the Sentry since Thor can with sentry's permission.

Even Iron Man can kill Sentry with his permission. It's up to Sentry if he returns or not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Have I struck a nerve ?

Nope.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You keep saying baseless claim after baseless claim. Try to prove something.

I can prove anything you want. How about you try it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Back up your assertion Thanos cannot take on someone with the speed and strength of the Sentry despite Hercules,WW Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and the Human Torch doing so.

Adressed all of these points, also multiple times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The skrulls easily screwed with his mind and got rid of him. How noble for a hero to disappear when the going gets tough.

He flew from Earth to Saturn during one scream and then he also returned to destroy the Super Skrull who was threatening Lindy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Human Torch still defeated someone vastly more powerful. That's pathetic.

Yeah, through a bad plot device to get rid of him. Your point is? It's pathetic how often you're brining in this bullshit into this ... well, it's actually hard to call it a debate, since it's more of a massacre where you're the victim.

How about I bring in other PIS moments in the history of comic books, where Spider-Man beats down Firelord, Captain America knocks out the Hulk, or Squirrel Girl defeats Thanos, LOLO!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iron Man didn't lack the strength or speed. Hercules didn't lack the strength and speed. Human Torch didn't lack the strength and speed. Blue Marvel didn't lack the strength and speed to compete with him either. Thor didn't lack the strength and speed.

Stop only looking at the pictures. Read the freaking comic books, you cave-troll.

Iron Man is vastly outclassed when it comes to comparing him with the Sentry. He was not able to get rid of the Sentry by punching him, he was not able to get rid of the Sentry by trying to fly away. Sentry was stomping him all over the place and his only chance was to get past Reed's firewall and exploit CLOC to immobilize the Sentry.

Hercules was outskilling a Sentry who wasn't serious at all about the fight and tried to talk it out. When he finally had enough and also said it: "It's been fun, but now it's over", he speedblitzed Hercules, rammed him into the ground, punched him, where Hercules had to use both hands to block the punch and then had to cheat and kick Sentry into the nuts, to keep running away and sinking a cruise ship to distract the Sentry.

Sentry punched Blue Marvel more often and took him down, before he got BFR'd with the punch into the orbit, yet he returned 3 panels after with a speedblitz which one-shotted Blue Marvel, who was fine before and yet not able to react to the speedblitz, nor stand up afterwards.

Everything Thor did in their entire battle was one BFR through a Mjolnir-smack. Afterwards he was chanceless, losing more and more blood and he was in the same position as Ares before he got ripped apart. You could say that it was Osborn who saved Thor from being torn apart!
Additionally to that Thor was not able to prevent Voidsentry from taking down Asgard and killing Loki, because he is simply too slow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just cited numerous examples of characters weaker than Thanos not only competing but some actually defeating the Sentry. Thanos is far more powerful than any of these characters/immune to death/able to cause permanent death/has abilities to counter speed and far too cunning/intelligent for the Sentry/Void.

Once again, you didn't do crap.

Sentry had the upper hand in nearly every single scenario you just named and most of these characters have feats which put them strenght wise above Thanos, who lacks the strenght feats. And while few of them have greater feats then the Sentry, they were still behind him, when they faced him.
Additionally to that Thanos faced a lot of weaker characters in the past who got many major upgrades, which were also visible. You can't say something like that about Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor killed him with his permission. That's called destroying his body. Loki knew he couldn't put the Void down but Loki's been unable to best Thor as well so really nothing amazing about it. Void didn't oneshot Thor, etc. Who did he oneshot other than Loki ? Honestly ?

When I say one-shot, I often have in mind that he took them down with one attack, basically something what happened to everyone on the battlefield at the beginning of Siege #4, where Void raised his hand and summoned black tendrils, which were going through Vision, through Void's godly body, through Captain America's shield and torturing them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The rest of the avengers all pale in comparison to Thor so really what are you trying to prove that street levelers can't really harm him. Nicely done. Yes, a nuke like explosion caused the guilt to manifest itself in the guise of Bob who demanded death. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body.

Once again I blame this forum for actually separating the Siege Sentry / Void from all the other showings from the past, which were actually far greater then everything you could see during the Siege.

Void often faced legions of heroes, who were going against him.
For example at the beginning of the New Avengers where the following people faced him and failed miserably:

The X-Men, Namor and few of his followers, Iron Man and S.H.I.E.L.D., the Inhumans, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange and maybe even few more, don't know right now.

Void was totally ignoring them, tossing them around, stomping on Captain America, while the others desperately tried to free him.
It took the combined efforts of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Invisible Woman to create a super force field to prevent the Void from attacking Emma Frost who was trying to help Robert.
The three force field casters were not able to enter the battle, but only had to substain the force field and it took the best of them, since in the end you could see Invisible Woman having nose bleed, something what happens when she goes all out.

On that battlefield there were a lot more powerful people then the pre Norn-stones-upgrade heroes from Siege and yet even all these people like the Inhumans, the Fantastic Four and so on were not bothering Void at all. AT ALL, he didn't even pay attention.
While Void is a team-buster and still gets defeated by Sentry on a regular basis, if Sentry is mentally stable... Thanos is not a team buster and gets tagged and tossed around even when he has the Infinity Gauntlet, because even he has some issues.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>>>>>>>Sentry.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. He asked Thor to do so and he ended up granting the request.

Once again you're lying and talking complete non-sense. No wonder that no one takes you seriously.
Robert never asked Thor specificaly. He was looking at the ground and asked to be killed. Thor was the first one who said: "No", with all of his ego. I'm telling you, Robert was the one who killed the Void, no one else. Even Bendis, the writer of the event said that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
2.I agree WW Hulk was in a disadvantage since he had to protect the people since the Sentry lost his composure. Hulk still overcame.

LoL, WW Hulk had the intention to destroy everything around him. He didn't bother about the people. (And now I'm specificaly talking about the heroes in the area)

Originally posted by quanchi112
3. That's still a win. Man, that sucks the Human Torch beat him. That's pretty bad.
Glad to hear you admit Thanos is more powerful and since stupider/weaker characters than Thanos can best him then so can he. Awesome.

I don't know if I should start to laugh or to cry. You're a giant joke.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's a first time for everything I await with fevered anticipation.
Lord Mar-vell was powerful enough to oneshot the Magus, easily ward off Nova and destroy Surfer's board with minimal effort thus proving he's beyond elite top tier.

There is nothing impressive in these examples. Hell, Terrax sliced with his axe through Surfer's board. Does that make him awesome? Sentry didn't even flinch when he destroyed Terrax' axe with his bare hands.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos caused what couldn't be caused by anyone else due to his power over death. That's it. He's immune to death the Void isn't. That isn't speculating that's a fact.

A fact is it also that Thanos never killed someone who is as unique as the Sentry and simply decides to return from the dead. Sentry is not a character who simply can't die, because he is immortal. He can die, but then he returns. That's being much more then just immortal.
You still haven't adressed Thanos' failure, where he said that immortality has it's limit and that the limit could be a drop from the orbit, lolo!

Originally posted by quanchi112
I could care less about your box of comics.
A lot more than you apparently.
I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.

You're like... You're like... Oh damn, no. I need to count to 10.
1... 2... 3... 4... Sentry wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body. He could have returned on Thor but mentally wanted death so he didn't come back.

The Void was badly, badly harmed and still restrained by Robert when he got killed by Thor, so there is no bad showing for Void and there is no good showing for Thor in that one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
b. Void wasn't weakened at all. Void/Bob just wanted to die while Thor had the power to destroy his body.
c. Loki was oneshotted but he isn't the most durable character out there to begin with.
d. That isn't heroism it is called cowardice not being held accountable for your actions.
Yes, but Thanos can cause permanent death so who cares. I am talking about Thanos ala Thanos Imperative sorry you seem quite scared of avatar of death Thanos.

b) Void was actually very weakened or did you miss all the attacks from the empowered heroes and the dropping of the Helicarrier onto his forehead?
c) Loki is durable enough. He proved it more then once in the past, but you probably don't know crap about Loki to actually judge it.
d) I'm not scared of Thanos' current AOD upgrade, since that's what it is. It's just a current upgrade. When he loses it, you won't have shit to defend your character. Right now he only has his immortality which turns the fight into a longer one, than we actually want.
Thanos killing immortal enemies doesn't mean shit. Either you do understand why it's debatable if it would work on the Sentry, or you're simply too stupid and really don't understand it, but then again. It has been debated well enough in this thread, so check it out. I'm not going to draw you a picture, to make it more understandable for you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because the Sentry hasn't moved faster than Hercules/Thor/WW Hulk/Ares/Human Torch/Blue Marvel/Photon have been able to react to before.

Sentry moves faster then all of these people, so what's your point?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos easily waved down Thor's hammer and easily stopped Fallen One's speed by simply raising his hand. I don't even need to bring up Thanos' reflexes against the Surfer in ig either to address this nonsense.

And you should not adress Thanos' reflexes during the IG saga, because I already adressed that point in this thread.
There is no great reflex showing for Thanos, since nothing indicated that he was reacting to the Surfer who MISSED his target. Judging by what we saw there, we could either say that Thanos maybe felt the energies from far, far away and knew that something would be coming, or he was suspicious because of Captain America, who was simply standing there, not reacting to the upcoming punch and that's why Thanos suspected something. Nothing has shown that he has uber reflexes. He himself said that he nearly lost the Infinity Gauntlet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos toyed with Doom. Iron Man's tech not only dealt with sentry's attacks Iron Man bested him.

Thanos blasted Doom away with the wrath of the Infinity Gauntlet. That sounds more then just toying around, especially if we keep in mind that in the scene before Dr. Doom was trying to take away the IG by force from Thanos' hand, who then was probably pissed off.

Iron Man said that he was lucky that his armor was not harmed after Sentry's speedblitz.
Sentry went easy on Iron Man, since at the beginning he only wanted to talk him into giving up.

Guess what, Sentry didn't went so easy on Dr. Doom and overpowered him multiple times, yay! Can't remember when Thanos did something like that.

Sentry wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry is greater than Doom and so is Thanos. Thanos is greater than Iron Man though but so far the Sentry has lost to him. Yes, the Sentry is powerful just nowhere near Thanos level of power.

So, judging by your miserable logic, which is making me angrier and angrier ...

Sentry is greater then Doom ... who defeated Silver Surfer more then once, yet in your opinion Silver Surfer stands above Sentry? And while Iron Man was desperately trying to flee from the Sentry and found a way to get rid of him by hacking CLOC he now defeated the Sentry in a fight and because Iron Man is weaker then Thanos, Sentry as to be under Thanos too?

You are stupid. I would actually never say something like that to a person who is older then me and could have children or something like that and achieved more in life, then I have with my 24 years, but you sir ... you are simply stupid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Once again you are distancing yourself from pretty much 80 percent of his showings. I debate with what's happened your debating is sentry is too fast, too strong nonsense without posting evidence in Thanos' history or Sentry's to come to this conclusion.

I told you more then once about the showings where you can judge the characters strenght / speed level.
If you don't believe me, simply demands scans. I already posted a lot of scans in the answers where you asked for something like that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor also has never burned himself out either.

"Rage, hold me ... ;_;"

Originally posted by quanchi112
Punching Thanos isn't beating Thanos despite Human Torch and Iron Man both of whom are far weaker than Hulk have defeated the Sentry.

You too know that Sentry wins, I know it :-)

Originally posted by quanchi112
He burned himself out while pouring all he had into the WW Hulk still it wasn't enough. The Collective was only stalemated and is nowhere near as impressive as Thanos defeating the maker.

LoLoLoLo, yeah no wonder few people laugh at you.

1. He "burned himself" out during WW Hulk and he was destroying planets while holding back during New Thunderbolds. Guess what? Sentry wins.

2. He stalemated the Collective, while he was in a weak mental state and the Collective was powerful enough to EASILY trash Binary, who is a planet buster, while Thanos had to teleport away from an exploding planet.

3. Thanos got attacked by the Maker with an explosion. Wowooooooo big ass damage there! How about you adress the point where Sentry easily defeated Molecule Man? Far more easily and a lot faster then Thanos finished off the Maker, who also basically took on mortal form in the end and depowered herself O_o

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Sentry hasn't beaten Thor the Voidtry is beyond him but not just the Sentry.

Sentry > Void > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Reynolds isn't all powerful that's just ridiculous.

What can Robert Reynolds do?

He is strong, fast, durable, invulnerable, can regenerate, is immortal, seems to not age, doesn't have to eat, can survive in space and overall in extreme temperates, can teleport around, can mind-wipe entire planets and even further dig into specific memories of people, he can insert his memories into the minds of other people, he has overall telepathy and empathy, he can heal and resurrect people, he can manipulate, absorb and emit various kinds of energies and radiations, he returns from the dead at will, he can give his powers to others, he can go invisible and turn intangible ... molecule manipulation. He pretty much is all-powerful, since he has no limits.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We go by most current. Don't be silly. Destroying planets is something the Surfer can achieve it doesn't get him very far against Thanos.

You just bragged about destroying planets and now the character who has done so and has lost to Thanos it suddenly becomes unimpressive. You are all over the place stepping all over your own arguments. How sad. World destroying power doesn't mean much to Thanos but to the Sentry's it's pretty high end.

I'm not talking about destroying a planet. I'm talking about destroying multiple planets while vastly holding back, to not insta-kill Captain America and when Captain America is not on the battlefield anymore, releasing the power and having so much energy that it escalates a microverse.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and Thanos does not have that much power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I laughed when you told me. I probably own more Sentry comics than you.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Photon won the Sentry lost. Canon.

Gonna tell you a secret, mate :-) He BFR'd him into a microverse and knew that Sentry would find his way out, but until then they would be already gone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's speed didn't even show an advantage over Thor or Hercules yet you expect me to believe it matters against Thanos.

Actually yes, speed is always an advantage and also was it in these particular fights. Even in the weird Hercules fight, where Sentry finally had enough and simply speedblitzed Hercules into the ground and then punched him, forced Hercules to use both hands to block the punch: "Ugn..."

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here's the thing you can post these long drawn out responses because I am sure until you met me most posters lost interest and you believed you won the debate. You will learn I won't leave. I won't relent. I will crawl into your soul at the end and one thing will remain clear

That's the point and that's also why you should pity yourself.
You basically didn't adress anything interesting which could actually grant Thanos the victory. I deconstructed basically everything you continued throwing at me in your pathetic biasm towards Thanos.

By reading through your entire text, I mainly came across the same few sentences:

- "Sentry burned himself out during WW Hulk"
- "Human Torch defeated him"
- "Iron Man defeated him"
- "Thanos is the Avatar of Death"

That's it. There was NOTHING else. During this entire debate, from the very first beginning, I was the one who provided more informations about Thanos then you did and that's actually pathetic.
I actually liked Thanos, the reason why I have so many Thanos comics, but right now I'm starting to hate him because of you and your stupidity. You don't know how to debate, you don't provide anything I could work with besides your weird, strange biasm.

The same applies for Nihilist, who won't be able to debate for Thanos either, since Thanos would simply lose.

Sentry > Thanos. It was official when you opened this thread and it's official now, after so many posts, where you basically said NOTHING smart at all and I really mean nothing.

So... I take it: everyone agree that Thanos stomp Sentry, Imaright?!