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Both are willing to kill in order to win.

Standard gear for both.

Who takes this?

orion.

Polly gave Orion a nose bleed. Diana >> Polly, therefore she should take the slight majority from him.

orion.

Here's a question; If Wonder Woman can block every bullet from a chain gun, how would Orion ever connect with a punch? I'd imagine that she would block everything and continue assaulting him no?

Probably WW.

Originally posted by Stoic
Here's a question; If Wonder Woman can block every bullet from a chain gun, how would Orion ever connect with a punch? I'd imagine that she would block everything and continue assaulting him no?

Orion is fast, too. His fight with Scott and Lightray show this. Plus, the Astro Force.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Orion is fast, too. His fight with Scott and Lightray show this. Plus, the Astro Force.


Did Lightray fly fast, or have Flash like combat speeds?

Originally posted by Stoic
Did Lightray fly fast, or have Flash like combat speeds?

I believe they were just flying in the sky. But when Orion was facing Scott in Simonson's run, Orion was trying to catch him at super speeds. He couldn't catch him, because he's Mister Miracle.

Also, in Simonson's run, Orion casually caught a bullet while he was blind. Had his eyes taken from his head.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I believe they were just flying in the sky. But when Orion was facing Scott in Simonson's run, Orion was trying to catch him at super speeds. He couldn't catch him, because he's Mister Miracle.

Also, in Simonson's run, Orion casually caught a bullet while he was blind. Had his eyes taken from his head.


That's one bullet though. Diana could do the cha cha, and block a chain gun barrage at the same time. JLA 4 was great....... I'm on the edge of my seat for 5 to come out.

Malefic laughed at orion's speed and told him how slow he was. Orion is fast but nothing like diana. Split or orion 6/10.

Superman was also surprised when he went to New Genesis and saw every NG moving at the speed of light!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Malefic laughed at orion's speed and told him how slow he was. Orion is fast but nothing like diana. Split or orion 6/10.

But how can you give Orion the nod? How does he land a blow without taking 5-10 hits first? If you look at this from a martial artists perspective, Orion would have to be several times stronger than Diana to pull a majority. That's before she uses the lasso imo.

WW isn't that much faster, IMO.

Originally posted by Stoic
But how can you give Orion the nod? How does he land a blow without taking 5-10 hits first? If you look at this from a martial artists perspective, Orion would have to be several times stronger than Diana to pull a majority. That's before she uses the lasso imo.

Because I can . But the thing is that diana doesn't speedblitz like other speedsters. Her amazon nature ensures that she would fight orion at even terms and orion is stronger, more vicious and better fighter than her. He's called The Dog of War for a reason.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
WW isn't that much faster, IMO.


Okay but who would you say is stronger? Who is faster? Who is a better fighter? This is what will determine who would be taking a nap first.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because I can . But the thing is that diana doesn't speedblitz like other speedsters. Her amazon nature ensures that she would fight orion at even terms and orion is stronger, more vicious and better fighter than her. He's called The Dog of War for a reason.

I'll wait on other opinions on who is a better fighter, and who is stronger. A hot head is often the game decider, and cooler heads often win more often.

Strength, slight edge to orion.

Fighter, slight edge to Orion.

Faster, debatable, but I'll say slight edge to WW.

More versatile, Orion by FAR.

More energy output, Orion by FAR.

Greater power to draw upon, ORION.

^This.

And yes, whilst cool heads would sometimes prevail - I offer exhibit A, Wolverine's Berserker Rage.

Now imagine that rage, coupled with Superman-level strength, WW-level fighting ability and GL-level energy blasts.

Yeah but there's one thing that she can exploit on him that he can't do to her.

^ That blasted lasso.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^ That blasted lasso.


That and... Nut shots

Orion has intangibility. And Martians (who can turn intangible) has shown to get out of lasso's, IIRC.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Orion has intangibility. And Martians (who can turn intangible) has shown to get out of lasso's, IIRC.

Yeah but can he get out of the nut cracker suite?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Orion has intangibility. And Martians (who can turn intangible) has shown to get out of lasso's, IIRC.

Diana captured intangible beings with lasso, in League of one J'onn couldn't escape from lasso IIRC.

Didn't a White Martian escape, though? In JLA series.

^^ No, she was fighting Primaid with lasso around her.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Strength, slight edge to orion.

Fighter, slight edge to Orion.

Faster, debatable, but I'll say slight edge to WW.

More versatile, Orion by FAR.

More energy output, Orion by FAR.

Greater power to draw upon, ORION.

Defense, Wonder Woman (Bracers)

Also, on versatility, she's pretty good- HtH. Lasso. Tiara. Zeus lightning zap. While Orion's motherbox allows even more, he tends to fight in a more direct manner.

A White Martian escaped Diana's Lasso in Terror Incognita, IIRC.

And MM stated he could escape the Lasso in JLA Divided We Fall.