Originally posted by Bardock42
The only thing is that there's no "war on christmas", hardly anyone complains about that outside of extreme radical outliers.
Well, my personal experience is the opposite: especially at the work place. It is a bit different in the US in some places. Especially the Bible Belt.
Originally posted by Bardock42
On the other hand the "wah, he said 'happy holidays, wah" crowd, has a whole News Network (the most popular in the most influential nation of the world) suspending regular programming to pretend 24/7 that Christmas (and it's important Christian teachings) are under attack...
Really? I did not know about this. I assume this is Fox News?
But wouldn't that just be the backlash from the backlash?
Meaning, because so many people are getting in trouble OR getting complaints about how "offensive" "merry Christmas" is (the original backlash), there is a backlash against them(because it is popular to hate on people for hating on Christians...in America, at least. They like to go, "AHA! You hate Christians! GOTCHA!"
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Originally posted by Bardock42
the people that she is describing are just much more numerous and vocal than the ones you describe.
I disagree. From a "management" perspective, there are far more people complaining about how inappropriate it is to talk about or use "Christmas" in anything. Even the annual "Christmas Potluck" had to get changed to "Winter Holiday Potluck" because my employer got so many complaints about how "offensive" it was to see the word "Christmas" anywhere near anything work related. This is, of course, secondary to our security guards getting in trouble for telling people "Merry Christmas". It seems like everywhere I turn, everyone is sh*tting themselves over the word "Christmas". It's not about Jesus: it's obviously about Santa.
Case in point: why is it naughty to say "Merry Christmas" and why is everyone trying their hardest to avoid it when it is a national holiday (meaning, it is literally sponsored by the government as hundreds of thousands of Federal employees are paid to be off that day). They holiday is definitely not about Jesus...even in the Bible Belt. No one talks about, "Oh man...I can't wait for Christmas because I can be extra thankful for His Son's birth and ministry on earth. Joy to the world!" No one says that.
Everyone...even the die-hard Christians say, "I can't wait for Christmas because I can see my family and open presents."
Nothing about Jesus there: nope.
What I mean: the author had it right about 4/5s the way through the article. It has almost always been about things other than Jesus' birth. It is more "pagan" than Halloween, IMO.