Mr. X vs Prometheus

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cdtm
Who wins?

KingD19
X should take a healthy majority in a scrap. Even if Prometheus uses other peoples styles, X can still read him before he makes a move.

Prep-Man
Prometheus. Better gear by far and a pale imitation Prom owned Lady Shiva.

cdtm
I'm thinking the strobes and neural chaff would be Mr. X's Kryptonite..

iceberg_slim
Prometheus.

His tech should give him a slight advantage.

Aries_04
X

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm thinking the strobes and neural chaff would be Mr. X's Kryptonite..

I was thinking nano second reaction time and all the other goodies he had in his last arc. He would crush X if he had all of that.

pee on badabing
he can confuce X, mister X is trying to read his mind so prometheus think about pissing on him, mister X is like wtf? why would he want to piss on me? we are fighting whats wrong with him? and then prometheus pulls out his wang and start pissing on x, mister x will try to avoid the piss ray but its no use he is going down bitches

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I was thinking nano second reaction time and all the other goodies he had in his last arc. He would crush X if he had all of that.

comic and issue numbers please.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm thinking the strobes and neural chaff would be Mr. X's Kryptonite..
based on what?

cdtm
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
based on what?

On them messing with his thought processes. They stopped Kyle from forming ring constructs.

And Mr. X's tp's been interrupted by less. Feral Wolverine, Luke Cage with a head injury or something, Iron Fist using Drunken Fist... Something like Neural Chaff that outright disables brain function should mess with Mr. X's telepathy badly..

cdtm
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
comic and issue numbers please.

Pretty sure he's talking about Cry for Justice.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty sure he's talking about Cry for Justice.
again issues and titles please

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by cdtm
On them messing with his thought processes. They stopped Kyle from forming ring constructs.
X locks onto his opponents brain patterns, even if we assume his thought proccess would be effected, it be utterly irrelevent.


Originally posted by cdtm
And Mr. X's tp's been interrupted by less.
No it really hasent, out side a single singe PIS issue.

Originally posted by cdtm
Feral Wolverine,.

It was Berserk Wolverine not feral. Great evidence there champ. berserk wolverine ahs no sell many of marvels best telepaths. And X train his powers so that this would never happen again.

Originally posted by cdtm

Luke Cage with a head injury or something, Iron Fist using Drunken Fist...
Both of which as PIS from the same issue and the only issue written by reember. Oh and he literally contradicts the entire arc and X character as a whole. For some retard reason X powers in that single issue could not read more thena single opponent at once, which is utter nonsense since he done that very thing in every other appearance is is fundamentally part of his characters abilities. Then there the drunken fist which again contradicts X character. He spent an entire issue training against such attack and then prove them ineffective and yet again reember ignored this. I am sorry but how does a sinlge issue written by a hack like reember take presidence over the characters entire history?

Originally posted by cdtm

Something like Neural Chaff that outright disables brain function should mess with Mr. X's telepathy badly..
again show issue and titles that that is standard equipment, that it works the way you are trying to pretend.

cdtm
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27414/1130528-jla_017_04___copy_super.jpg

Kyle was hit so hard by it, he was having problems forming coherent sentences. Basically, it would be like making Mr. X really high, or really drunk, both which would be disadvantages...

And that's not taking into account the strobe lights, which can cause different effects depending on how they're set to strobe. When he beat up Batman in their first meeting, he set his strobes to confuse him.

And why wouldn't it be standard equipment? He used it in his first appearance, and he always keeps his armor loaded with anti JLA gear, which included the NC.

Endless Mike
No prep, right?

cdtm
Originally posted by Endless Mike
No prep, right?

No prep. Just anything he's been shown to carry on him.

The man CAN improvise, as he did against The Shade.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by cdtm
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27414/1130528-jla_017_04___copy_super.jpg

Kyle was hit so hard by it, he was having problems forming coherent sentences. Basically, it would be like making Mr. X really high, or really drunk, both which would be disadvantages...


Again what don't you get about an issue and title. I don't want an out of contact scan.

Not to mention that Green Lantern is not a telepath and there really not reason to assume that something that messes with him would work on individual with innate telepathy

Not to mention X powers don't even need him to think
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Originally posted by cdtm

And that's not taking into account the strobe lights, which can cause different effects depending on how they're set to strobe. When he beat up Batman in their first meeting, he set his strobes to confuse him.


Batman not a telepath nor is X going to sit there and let the guy set them to probe. Also You do realize X would no what he trying to do right?

Originally posted by cdtm

And why wouldn't it be standard equipment? He used it in his first appearance, and he always keeps his armor loaded with anti JLA gear, which included the NC.
Using something in your first apearance does not make it standard gear.If it did I guess Batman has a friggin Magnum on him


Having his armor and having those abilities arnt the same thing. Standard gear is things you uses on a consistent bases not some crap you pulled out once is a blue moon. By your logic Batman would be a friggin god.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by cdtm
No prep. Just anything he's been shown to carry on him.

The man CAN improvise, as he did against The Shade.
That was not put in the thread description/or title, sorry but you can't change crap haft way through. Are u kidding me with thise nonsense. He can uses anything he ever been shown to carry? Is this a joke?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Endless Mike
No prep, right?

That would be unfair/

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty sure he's talking about Cry for Justice.

He was also immune to tp. Miss Martian couldn't read his mind. Flash couldn't tag him, etc... He improved his gear.

Dum Dum Dugan
Find this amusing that people are trying to pass off Promethues with non standard gear and one sided prep as the norm for this battle. So typical.

Prep-Man
His standard equipment includes the Ghost Key, which would still tip it into his favor.

cdtm
Originally posted by Prep-Man
His standard equipment includes the Ghost Key, which would still tip it into his favor.

He should have everything. We can only go by his feats and appearances, and there's absolutely nothing to back up what Dum Dum's trying to sell.

No proof his gimmicks aren't always fully loaded, and no reason to question it. This isn't a one time Batman gimmick, this is what Prometheus has proven to be capable of in his stories, like Batmans utility belt is in his.

cdtm
Playing devils advocate..

While it's true Batman only beat Prometheus by uploading Stephan Hawking into the helmet, before hacking the helmet he was dominating him in h2h, and Prometheus cheated first by shooting him with something strong enough to rip through most of his chest armor.

So you can beat him with pure skill, if you're a high level Martial Artist.

Doubly granted, Lady Shiva got punked by that substitute Prometheus... PIS?

ricochetx
prometheus wins this easy, anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded

cdtm
Prep-Man, any idea where his nano second reaction speed is mentioned? Is it in Cry for Justice?

ricochetx
x isn't even that good a martial artist, he got punked by iron fist, hell amadaeus cho whipped his ass also.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
Prep-Man, any idea where his nano second reaction speed is mentioned? Is it in Cry for Justice?

Cry For Justice, I believe. When he was fighting Jay Garrick.

Philosophía
Originally posted by cdtm
Playing devils advocate..

While it's true Batman only beat Prometheus by uploading Stephan Hawking into the helmet, before hacking the helmet he was dominating him in h2h, and Prometheus cheated first by shooting him with something strong enough to rip through most of his chest armor.

So you can beat him with pure skill, if you're a high level Martial Artist.

Doubly granted, Lady Shiva got punked by that substitute Prometheus... PIS? Or how about you can't beat Prometheus if you're a high level martial artist, since he already has the skillset of all the high-level martial artists and his second-rate wannabe already beat one of the highest rated martial artists, Shiva, in record time?

Batman having the edge against him doesn't suddenly erase all of what Prometheus is, and what he has done - it just means that Batman is just that damn good under Morrison.

I know this is not the way DC characters are debated in general (ie. Superman beating Darkseid being something that is the original "Superman is not that powerful, Darkseid is just weak"wink, but that's just the way it is.

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