Wild Child vs Blade

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carver9
Who wins?

Standard gear for Blade.

KingD19
Unless this is the Romulus boosted Wild Child, I see Blade taking a majority.

juggernaut74
Well, WC took out Logan, Creed, and Sasquatch recently.

Sin I AM
wild child

KingD19
The current Wild Child is the one whose been boosted by Romulus.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by KingD19
The current Wild Child is the one whose been boosted by Romulus. He's also dead if I recall. Isn't he?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well, WC took out Logan, Creed, and Sasquatch recently.

Scan?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Scan? No. Mungi told me about it though.

jinzin
"Current" Wildchild did not do a single thing to impress enough to deserve the "uber" status he got after being "upgraded".

And while he beat up Wolverine, and beat up Sasquatch, and did... well.. whatever the hell he did to Sabretooth, there were all sorts of circumstances abound there and none of those was ever more than a handful of cheap shots and sneak attacks.
The most impressive thing I remember him doing was somehow getting Omega Red in a rear naked choke/headlock right before getting straight up murdered. And that ain't good. erm

I suppose the implications were that he was a helluva lot faster, stronger, and more deadly than he'd ever been before with poison soaked Adamantium claws but from what I remember Romulus still challenged that WC was still afraid of a straight confrontation with Wolvie. We never saw what he could really do so....... yeah... *shruggs*

IMO Blade beats Wild Child unless Wild Child's upgraded self lived up to the hype that the story seemed to be starting to push.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-


Wild Child vs. Sabretooth & Wolverine
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_15.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_16.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_17.jpg
4. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_18.jpg
5. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_19.jpg
6. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_22.jpg
7. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_23.jpg

-K-M-
Meh! I could see Wildheart version of Wild Child taking Blade, not even going with the Romolus upgrade which I 100% agree with Jinzin about.

Nietzschean
Blade murders the wannabe feral pup.

-K-M-
Murders? haha no.

Trackz
Originally posted by -K-M-
Murders? haha no. What has wildchild done? I've seen his upgraded form tangle with Omega Red for a bit before dying.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Trackz
What has wildchild done? I've seen his upgraded form tangle with Omega Red for a bit before dying. He beat Wolverine, Sabretooth and Sasquatch. Granted Red beat him silly but those are nice wins.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sasquatch
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Wolverine #54 (Vol.3):

1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Wolverine54_08.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Wolverine54_09.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Wolverine54_20-21.jpg

Trackz
Originally posted by juggernaut74
He beat Wolverine, Sabretooth and Sasquatch. Granted Red beat him silly but those are nice wins. Upgraded WildChild is a beast...Blade might be able to get a couple of wins through decapitation/dismemberment but wildchild seems too fast...he wrecked an upgraded Sabretooth too right?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Trackz
Upgraded WildChild is a beast...Blade might be able to get a couple of wins through decapitation/dismemberment but wildchild seems too fast...he wrecked an upgraded Sabretooth too right? Yea, he wrecked Creed, Logan, and Walter.

jinzin
Originally posted by Trackz
Upgraded WildChild is a beast...Blade might be able to get a couple of wins through decapitation/dismemberment but wildchild seems too fast...he wrecked an upgraded Sabretooth too right?

Um......

No.....

Again......

Originally posted by jinzin
"Current" Wildchild did not do a single thing to impress enough to deserve the "uber" status he got after being "upgraded".

And while he beat up Wolverine, and beat up Sasquatch, and did... well.. whatever the hell he did to Sabretooth, there were all sorts of circumstances abound there and none of those was ever more than a handful of cheap shots and sneak attacks.
The most impressive thing I remember him doing was somehow getting Omega Red in a rear naked choke/headlock right before getting straight up murdered. And that ain't good. erm

I suppose the implications were that he was a helluva lot faster, stronger, and more deadly than he'd ever been before with poison soaked Adamantium claws but from what I remember Romulus still challenged that WC was still afraid of a straight confrontation with Wolvie. We never saw what he could really do so....... yeah... *shruggs*

IMO Blade beats Wild Child unless Wild Child's upgraded self lived up to the hype that the story seemed to be starting to push.

And frankly is MUNGI agrees with me?!?!.... that should tell you something. erm

juggernaut74
Yea, there was circumstances to his wins as they were all cheap shots iirc but Logan did say WC was faster than he was.

jinzin
I guess..... I suppose I would let that statement hold more weight if it wasn't under the circumstance of a sneak attack with claws potent enough to put him out for two days.erm


In any case, even if he was faster than Wolverine we still didn't get a chance to see him in action with the exception of 4 panels with OR where he got killed.

juggernaut74
Makes sense. And he did not do that well against Omega Red, I'll give you that.

carver9
Does anyone have the Omega Red fight?

-K-M-
He was doing fine, but Wolverine was fleeing and WC saw this and he started to curse and thats when OR striked and threw him in molten metal when his back was turned.

Trackz
Originally posted by carver9
Does anyone have the Omega Red fight?
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6131/wo39legioncps021.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/51/wo39legioncps022.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7402/wo39legioncps023.jpg

-K-M-
I would have liked to see them fight when WC didnt get distracted.

jinzin
Yeah, he didn't seem to care about the pheramones or death factor so who knows. Of course I wish they fleshed him out more AT ALL since giving him a push in evolution. Way just undercredited everything else that came before him.... fuggin Way. lol.

-K-M-
Yeah but I didn't like what Loeb was doing with him, as the retcon he was a WW2 nazi? and his outfit with his exposed nipples? Dumb

juggernaut74
Lol at the nipple rings. He'll be back, his healing factor most likely would have saved him.

Trackz
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Lol at the nipple rings. He'll be back, his healing factor most likely would have saved him. I think he was in hell when Wolverine went. Healing Factor can't bring you back from ash.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Trackz
I think he was in hell when Wolverine went. Healing Factor can't bring you back from ash. I didn't know he was in hell, I guess he did die.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Trackz
I think he was in hell when Wolverine went. Healing Factor can't bring you back from ash.

Nope he wasn't, Omega Red was but not Wild Child.

Trackz
Originally posted by -K-M-
Nope he wasn't, Omega Red was but not Wild Child. Hmmm. I think his death was referenced by Romulus though. Talking about how all of his "Creations" were fighting for his top spot...I was pretty sure they made it a point to kill all of them for that storyline.

juggernaut74
Don't matter anyways, he'll be back sooner or later.

As for the fight....Blade 7/10.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Trackz
Hmmm. I think his death was referenced by Romulus though. Talking about how all of his "Creations" were fighting for his top spot...I was pretty sure they made it a point to kill all of them for that storyline.

All the candiates weren't dead, Nuke, Daken and a few others were mentioned and they are still alive.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Don't matter anyways, he'll be back sooner or later.

As for the fight....Blade 7/10.

Depends on the incarnation of WC. Wildheart would win

1. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-17.jpg
2. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-18.jpg
3. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-19.jpg
4. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-21.jpg
5. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-22.jpg
6. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-23.jpg

juggernaut74
The thread said Wild Child, not Wildheart.

Trackz
If we're not counting his trouncing of Wolverine, Sabretooth, and Sasquatch or his contesting of Omega Red then yea Blade wins. The dude seems like he could've been the strongest out of all of them, his only draw backs seemed to be his lack of adamantium and his furtive combat.

If we're using normal Wildchild, for whom we have more feats, then I'd say Blade wins.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Trackz
If we're not counting his trouncing of Wolverine, Sabretooth, and Sasquatch or his contesting of Omega Red then yea Blade wins. The dude seems like he could've been the strongest out of all of them, his only draw backs seemed to be his lack of adamantium and his furtive combat.

If we're using normal Wildchild, for whom we have more feats, then I'd say Blade wins. Those feats have been discarded because as jinzin pointed out they were sneak attacks.

Trackz
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Those feats have been discarded because as jinzin pointed out they were sneak attacks. We didn't see the fight with Sabretooth or Sasquatch right?...and even so to overwhelm their healing factors so quickly is impressive (even with poison). But if that's the case then we should just use his feats pre-upgrade.

-K-M-
Originally posted by juggernaut74
The thread said Wild Child, not Wildheart.

Wildheart is Wild Child, he was even called Wild Child during that tenure

Originally posted by Trackz
If we're not counting his trouncing of Wolverine, Sabretooth, and Sasquatch or his contesting of Omega Red then yea Blade wins. The dude seems like he could've been the strongest out of all of them, his only draw backs seemed to be his lack of adamantium and his furtive combat.

If we're using normal Wildchild, for whom we have more feats, then I'd say Blade wins.

Based on what? WC's feats sans even the Romolus upgrade are pretty impressive. He has gone toe to toe with Wolverine a few times, killed a clone of Daredevil which was supposed to be his equal, defeated Diablo, defated Fatale more then once who is a person that defeated the entire X-Factor team on her own

and heres a badass moment
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight103-02.jpg

Originally posted by Trackz
We didn't see the fight with Sabretooth or Sasquatch right?...and even so to overwhelm their healing factors so quickly is impressive (even with poison). But if that's the case then we should just use his feats pre-upgrade.

The Sabretooth fight no, but we did see the Sasquatch fight.
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This really depends on the incarnation and era of WC. X-Factor and Weapon X versions I'd give the definite nod to Blade. Wildheart and Romolous version id give the nod to WC, and classic WC would be very close.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
Wildheart is Wild Child, he was even called Wild Child during that tenure


Fine, I'm still going with Blade.

-K-M-
Against Wildheart version, based on?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
Against Wildheart version, based on? Faster, stronger, better weapons.

-K-M-
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Faster, stronger, better weapons.

Would love to see the feats that prove that, and better weapons I agree. However, this is standard weapons for Blade so he wont be using his more exotic weapons.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
Would love to see the feats that prove that, and better weapons I agree. However, this is standard weapons for Blade so he wont be using his more exotic weapons. What are you basing your take on? And I'd like to see feats.

-K-M-
Originally posted by juggernaut74
What are you basing your take on? And I'd like to see feats.

Who he has fought, what was shown and him stated to have superhuman physical abilities and has matched people that have given Blade problems before

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t489303.html

So when I asked for feats for Blade you in turn then ask me for feats? Interesting tactic.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
Who he has fought, what was shown and him stated to have superhuman physical abilities and has matched people that have given Blade problems before

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t489303.html

So when I asked for feats for Blade you in turn then ask me for feats? Interesting tactic. Do you think WC is faster and stronger than Blade? If so post scans to show me.

-K-M-
Like I said depends on the incarnation as some yes and some no, and the link I posted seperates the various forms of WC.

Now where are your scans? you seem to be avoiding the issue not even making reference to any particular feat.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
Like I said depends on the incarnation as some yes and some no, and the link I posted seperates the various forms of WC.

Now where are your scans? you seem to be avoiding the issue not even making reference to any particular feat. I've seen that thread and I've seen Blade's and to me Blade stands out as more of a threat.

As a whole who is:

Stronger
Faster
More skilled
More durable

Post scans of you want but I don't have any.

-K-M-
So as I said you don't actually have any feats for Blade do you? I posted a link to a thread with all the scans. The ball is in your court, list these feats.

For skilled that depends on era, as WC was directly trained by Nick Fury at one time


1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol-1.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol-2.jpg

juggernaut74
I see how this works.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t532484.html

Trackz
Originally posted by -K-M-
Like I said depends on the incarnation as some yes and some no, and the link I posted seperates the various forms of WC.

Now where are your scans? you seem to be avoiding the issue not even making reference to any particular feat. Reading your respect thread, it would be hard to determine who is stronger/faster. Most of the feats are battle feats against opponents Blade has never come across. It's hard to compare when they're from two different ends of the marvel universe.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by -K-M-
So as I said you don't actually have any feats for Blade do you? I posted a link to a thread with all the scans. The ball is in your court, list these feats.

For skilled that depends on era, as WC was directly trained by Nick Fury at one time


1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol-1.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol-2.jpg So what. Everybody trained by Anderson Silva isn't going to be UFC world champion.

-K-M-
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I see how this works.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t532484.html

Only difference is I made my thread and is far more organized. I also have referenced feats and posted scans while...you have not

Originally posted by Trackz
Reading your respect thread, it would be hard to determine who is stronger/faster. Most of the feats are battle feats against opponents Blade has never come across. It's hard to compare when they're from two different ends of the marvel universe.

He's come across Wolverine and yeah Blade doesn;t have any encounters with a lot of people in the Marvel universe that arent vampires.

I agree it becomes hard to compare, and Im actually a fan of Blade and have read his series (even the awful one where he lost his hand and recieved a gun hand).

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So what. Everybody trained by Anderson Silva isn't going to be UFC world champion.

Awful comparison, as Weapon Omega was said to be one of the best hand to hand fighters even showed a comparison to Puck who is ranked 6/7 in skill.

Is Anderson Silva a coach as well? Nope, he trains like every other fighter and actually fights. Awful example.

Trackz
Originally posted by -K-M-

He's come across Wolverine and yeah Blade doesn;t have any encounters with a lot of people in the Marvel universe that arent vampires.

I agree it becomes hard to compare, and Im actually a fan of Blade and have read his series (even the awful one where he lost his hand and recieved a gun hand).

That's why I initially gave him the win, cause his upgraded version beat Wolverine in the blink of an eye and I'm pretty sure he was meant to be the best out of them but if we're not counting those feats then it's a hard case to argue either way.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Trackz
That's why I initially gave him the win, cause his upgraded version beat Wolverine in the blink of an eye and I'm pretty sure he was meant to be the best out of them but if we're not counting those feats then it's a hard case to argue either way.

Yeah that's why I said depends on the incarnation.

Trackz
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah that's why I said depends on the incarnation. Well then, I would agree with you.

-K-M-
I feel Blade would stomp Weapon X (looked like a vampire) and X-Factor (retconned him into a teenager) versions of WC.

SamZED
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah, he didn't seem to care about the pheramones or death factor so who knows. Of course I wish they fleshed him out more AT ALL since giving him a push in evolution. Way just undercredited everything else that came before him.... fuggin Way. lol. You sure Way even knows about the pheromones and the DF?

Trackz
Originally posted by SamZED
You sure Way even knows about the pheromones and the DF? Brought it up in Wolverine's fight with Omega Red, I'm pretty sure.

juggernaut74
The reason I gave Blade 7/10 was due to his weapons. If it goes hand to hand it's closer to even or so.

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