Dr. Doom versus the Void

The Void has returned since his death during "Siege" and is about to begin laying waste to Earth. Only one force on the planet can hope to oppose him: Doom.

Scenario #1: Dr. Doom has had 72 hours worth of prep time to deal with Void. Can he stop or defeat him? After 72 hours, Void arrives in New York City and Dr. Doom is within Latveria. If not, how much prep time does Doom need to beat Void for the majority? Or is 72 hours too much time for Doom to orchestrate his defeat?

Scenario #2: Dr. Doom at his best versus the Void/Sentry/Robert Reynolds at his best.

Scenario one doom possibly loses unless he somehow comes across a major magical artifact like the wands of wattomb or eye of agamotto,

Scenario two: victor for the victory

void

Originally posted by bbrem123
void

Can you explain?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Can you explain?

Doom already had few encounters with Sentry. In every single of them he failed to actually defend himself.
I'm pretty sure, that Doctor Doom is smart enough to try to find a way to get past Sentry's advantages, yet he was nearly always in disadvantage.
Even in a What If, written by Stan Lee Void killed Doctor Doom, including with everyone else.

While a What If does not matter much I still mentioned it, because it was Stan Lee who wrote it, who came up with the Doom character.

Doctor Doom is paranoid. He thinks that everyone is there to bust him up, so Doctor Doom is always prepared, when he leaves his castle. Hell, because of his tech and abilities he can go toe on toe with Silver Surfer and win more often then lose, yet he always had massive problems with Sentry.

I don't think Doom can actually defend him self against someone like the Void, who would basically use his powerful, raw molecule manipulation and simply attack him past the shields. I'm not even sure if Doom's shields would help him much at all, since Voidsentry already destroyed Kree-tech and the Kree have some sick gadgets.

I'm not sure if Doctor Doom would be able to find a way to steal Sentry's powers. Tech already managed to drain Sentry and revert him back to Robert Reynolds, but actually stealing it? I'm not sure.
I don't even know what to think about the weird energy drain by tech. To me personally it looked more like PIS, judging by other instances, where he was dishing out enough energy and stayed just fine for the longest time.

But if it's valid and not a plot device (and it was a plot device, to depower him and leave him useless once again on the battlefield), then yeah, Doctor Doom could come up with something like that, drain him and maybe kill Robert Reynolds, who would probably need more than 10 seconds to return.

The other way to defeat him, would to attack the Void with as much damage as possible and that amount of damage would have to be freakin' ridiculous. If he would manage to wear the Void down, so that he reverts to Robert Reynolds and if Doctor Doom would also maybe sacrifice a town or something in the process, Robert would maybe ask if he did it and then we would have the same outcome from Siege.

DOOM would win in scenario one because I think he would've sought some mystical means of bringing down the Void.

Scenario 2- ANNIHILATION by Void. There is nothing DOOM can do against a prime Void as he has almost a limitless array of offensive tactics at his disposal.

1. Doom. Time Travel + Mystic artifacts = win.

2. Sentry.

So in the opinion of those voting for Void in scenario two, Doom would lose even with his various amps he's had over the years with various levels of "omnipotence"? due to the Power Cosmic, the Beyonder's power, Marquis of Death, Vibranium, Scarlet Witch, etc?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So in the opinion of those voting for Void in scenario two, Doom would lose even with his various amps he's had over the years with various levels of "omnipotence"? due to the Power Cosmic, the Beyonder's power, Marquis of Death, Vibranium, Scarlet Witch, etc?

Woops my mistake I assumed fight 2 was average Doom but with no prep. Should've read the OP better.

Change my above answer to Doom wins both.

And for the record, I didn't mean Doom with all his amps combined or anything. Just whatever a poster thinks Doom at "his best" equals.

I think that there is an implied distinction about DOOM in option 2 not being aided by prep.

I think the best DOOM is always the one with prep. He planned meticulously to take the power cosmic from the Surfer and succeded. He studied the Beyonder and was able to do the unthinkable and conquer him as well. With the caveat of course that the Beyonder allowed it. He defeated Mephisto in his own realm to save hos mother's soul.

DOOM without prep is impressive but he gets demolished by the Void.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And for the record, I didn't mean Doom with all his amps combined or anything. Just whatever a poster thinks Doom at "his best" equals.

Void wins.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
So Doom with Pre-Retcon Beyonders powers?

Depends if you think what he did on panel qualifies as his best.

Doom has *72 hours* of prep time?

Doom has Power Stealing, Time Travel, and Ovoid mind switch powers at his disposal.

I have a harder time thinking of ways he can LOSE with 3 days prep.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Doom has *72 hours* of prep time?

Doom has Power Stealing, Time Travel, and Ovoid mind switch powers at his disposal.

I have a harder time thinking of ways he can LOSE with 3 days prep.

1. Power Stealing- Void rearranges his molecules and that of the tech DOOM is using to steal his powers.

Void 1 DOOM 0

2. Time Travel- Void is somehow outside of the Time Stream to an extent that allows him to pull off most of his feats. How is DOOM going to get outside of the time stream while simultaneously affecting the Void within it?

Void 2 DOOM 0

3. Mind Switch- If DOOM enters the mind of the Void he most likely will never come out. Xavier and Frost proved that you don't want to go there.

Void 3 DOOM 0

Originally posted by Enzeru
Doom already had few encounters with Sentry. In every single of them he failed to actually defend himself.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]1. Power Stealing- Void rearranges his molecules and that of the tech DOOM is using to steal his powers.

except the power stealing isn't that easy to avoid. There's a "what if" where a doombot shows up with the power stealing gun that robs the uni-power from spider man. what if you had 15 of these guns? 100? 1000? Any doom or doombot can use it. I don't give the void good odds of taking them all on at once.

2. Time Travel- Void is somehow outside of the Time Stream to an extent that allows him to pull off most of his feats. How is DOOM going to get outside of the time stream while simultaneously affecting the Void within it?

since when is the void outside of the timestream? Either way, it's irrelevant. Time manipulation would allow doom to retrieve items and powers from past points in history that no longer exist (serpent crown, cosmic cubes, the dreaming celestial, the super adaptoid) or to create chronal duplicates of himself. This is hard to get around.

3. Mind Switch- If DOOM enters the mind of the Void he most likely will never come out. Xavier and Frost proved that you don't want to go there.

the mind switch power doesn't work that way. Non psionics can use it (doom and she-hulk both have, neither are psi's) without making their own minds vulnerable. It also allows doom to switch his mind with a different body that's NOT the void- say for instance doom switches his body with the absorbing man or super adaptoid. He then has the ability to replicate ALL of the void's powers when they come in contact. What if he switches with franklin richards? that dude creates universes at will.

Far fetched? nah, you're talking about the smartest man on the planet.

Doom wins in all three scenarios here, with ease.

In scenario 2 Doom at his best possessed the power of the Beyonder. Is this allowed or can this be considered Doom at his best?

Originally posted by Stoic
In scenario 2 Doom at his best possessed the power of the Beyonder. Is this allowed or can this be considered Doom at his best?

Yes.