Classic Juggernaut Vs Galactus

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Colossus-Big C
Based on purly there showing Against thor , who is more durable

carver9
Lol.

quanchi112
Galactus.

Magnon
Based purely on their showings against Thor, Juggernaut is more durable.

Juggs has tanked Thor's godblast without much effect, whereas Galactus ran away hurt. Thor's most powerful Mjolnir toss has been shown to be ineffective against Juggs, whereas Thor w/ Mjolnir has caused considerable damage to Galactus.

guy222
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Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus. Originally posted by Magnon
Based purely on their showings against Thor, Juggernaut is more durable.

Juggs has tanked Thor's godblast without much effect, whereas Galactus ran away hurt. Thor's most powerful Mjolnir toss has been shown to be ineffective against Juggs, whereas Thor w/ Mjolnir has caused considerable damage to Galactus.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I think Thor was weakened at the time of the blast against Juggs iirc. Galactus was also weakened at the time due to expending energy against Ego. Galactus is far more durable.

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Thor was weakened at the time of the blast against Juggs iirc. Galactus was also weakened at the time due to expending energy against Ego. Galactus is far more durable.

this pretty much sums it up. and also, how do these threads last? this is one of the most ridiculous threads i've ever seen.

Magnon
Essentially, most ppl here are saying that DESPITE of their showings against Thor, Galactus is more durable. This, however, is not what was asked in the OP.

BASED ON their showings against Thor, Juggernaut IS more durable. I can't see how anyone could come into a different conclusion when only looking at their respective showings vs. Thor.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Galactus.

Originally posted by Magnon
Based purely on their showings against Thor, Juggernaut is more durable.

Juggs has tanked Thor's godblast without much effect, whereas Galactus ran away hurt. Thor's most powerful Mjolnir toss has been shown to be ineffective against Juggs, whereas Thor w/ Mjolnir has caused considerable damage to Galactus.

Cain withstood the God Blast, but that was with his force field and it was weaker than the one used against Galactus.

The force field was also what stopped Thor's hammer throw. It should also be noted that Thor was noticeably weaker than he would be at full strength in his first battle against Juggernaut. It wasn't his most powerful throw either.

On the flip side, he beat Juggernaut around with only his fists which is something I have a hard time seeing happen against Galactus unless his like starving or something.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Cain withstood the God Blast, but that was with his force field and it was weaker than the one used against Galactus.

it was not weaker. you're making that up.

also, classic juggernaut is far more durable than galactus.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Starscream M
it was not weaker. you're making that up.

also, classic juggernaut is far more durable than galactus.

Not really. All one has to do is observe the two scenes to reach the conclusion I have.

How can you still say that after the scans I've posted? At this point, you either have short term memory loss or are blatantly ignoring evidence. Either way, you shouldn't be allowed to enter discussions.

It's true, Galactus has some low showings, but they're nothing compare to Cain's.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. All one has to do is observe the two scenes to reach the conclusion I have.

How can you still say that after the scans I've posted? At this point, you either have short term memory loss or are blatantly ignoring evidence. Either way, you shouldn't be allowed to enter discussions.

It's true, Galactus has some low showings, but they're nothing compare to Cain's. your answer just proves that you made that shit up. nowhere does it ever say one godblast was weaker or stronger. stop propogating that lie.

your scans were PIS, and I suspect their canonicity.

Galactus has never shown great durability (everytime he's been attacked, he's been injured, whether its thanos, brb, thor, etc)

Magnon
Thor confirms on-panel that the godblast he used against Juggernaut was the same as what he used to "hurl back Galactus" and "give an almighty Celestial a pause" (=Exitar).

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir153a-Godblast412.jpg?t=1261965650

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Starscream M
your answer just proves that you made that shit up. nowhere does it ever say one godblast was weaker or stronger. stop propogating that lie.

Uhuh. Starscream, I know I'm not going to change your mind so I'll just post the scans for people to decide themselves.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut14.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut15.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsGalactus7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsGalactus8.jpg

Thor used the God Blast against Juggernaut, Galactus and Exitar, it was a different level of power each time. The strongest being the one against the Celestial as Mjolnir shattered even when fortified.

It should be noted, Thor was noticeably weakened at the time he fought Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Starscream M
your scans were PIS, and I suspect their canonicity.

Lol, you're so full of it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Galactus has never shown great durability (everytime he's been attacked, he's been injured, whether its thanos, brb, thor, etc)

Nice try at lowballing. Yes, Thor has injured Galactus (Thanos and Bill didn't actually do anything) but his done the same to Cain with his bare fists:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor7.jpg

And, Galactus isn't the only one with low showings:
http://i47.tinypic.com/2qu3l8x.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/mjvaci.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/54474/1063806-spider_man_016_18_super.jpg

Compare to that, the World Eater is is golden.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Magnon
Thor confirms on-panel that the godblast he used against Juggernaut was the same as what he used to "hurl back Galactus" and "give an almighty Celestial a pause" (=Exitar).

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir153a-Godblast412.jpg?t=1261965650

It was the same power, that's no in doubt, but it wasn't on the same level of power.

Starscream M
thanos hurt galactus, and brb visibly damaged galactus.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was the same power, that's no in doubt, but it wasn't on the same level of power. gimme the line where thor says its weaker. I don't care for your 'interpretations'.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Starscream M
thanos hurt galactus, and brb visibly damaged galactus.

Thanos and Bill both inconvenienced Galactus but neither of them actually hurt him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
gimme the line where thor says its weaker. I don't care for your 'interpretations'.

At no point did Thor clearly state that the one used against Juggernaut was weaker if that's what your looking for. Unfortunately, that doesn't in anyway disprove my conclusion.

The fact that he mentioned the scene with Exitar is clear evidence that the statement was not a direct comparison of power. The God Blast used against the Celestial was far and away more powerful than the one used against Juggernaut.

I could try asking DeFalco if you want. Though that definitely won't help your case.

Starscream M
yeah, go ahead and ask defalco if you want. it'll be futile.

godblast isn't heat vision...it doesn't have different levels of power. it is one intensity. just because it might be depicted artistically different does not prove otherwise.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, go ahead and ask defalco if you want. it'll be futile.

godblast isn't heat vision...it doesn't have different levels of power. it is one intensity. just because it might be depicted artistically different does not prove otherwise.

Futile in that doesn't matter what he says, you won't change your answer?

A fortified Mjolnir shattered under the pressure of a God Blast against Exitar. It didn't even crack when Thor used the God Blast against Juggernaut. This was under the same creative team.

Yet Thor can't regular the intensity of the God Blast? Yea, you're a moron.

I won't even point out that Thor's used the God Blast to heal a hole in space/time indicating that he can direct the energies with far more accuracy than intensity regulation.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Magnon
Essentially, most ppl here are saying that DESPITE of their showings against Thor, Galactus is more durable. This, however, is not what was asked in the OP.

BASED ON their showings against Thor, Juggernaut IS more durable. I can't see how anyone could come into a different conclusion when only looking at their respective showings vs. Thor. Because you are ignoring the context of what occurred and the state of those characters in those situations. Get it now ?

Originally posted by Starscream M
it was not weaker. you're making that up.

also, classic juggernaut is far more durable than galactus. It's reasonable to assume a difference in power between the two showings especially considering the state of the characters at the time.

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