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A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic



Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

I hope it works. This shit must be stopped..

I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

Who should join in to make it effective?

PayPal?
eBay?

Those are the first two the come to my still asleep head.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

I think Wikipedia will be effective. I've already reflexively tried to use it twice.

A Google blackout wouldn't really make sense since they don't operate in a way that could ever get them blocked. It would be a very loud message, though. Same with eBay and PayPal.


I've been looking around for the blacked out sights and found that besides Wiki and Reddit there's nothing very large involved. WIRED is a geek site. Demonoid only has member who are pirates. SJGames helped found the EFF and is another geek site. It seems to me that social networking services would be the most vulnerable to SOPA and make the most effective statement if blacked out.


A Reuters article on the subject.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/18/us-internet-protest-idUSTRE80H01U20120118

The response from Twitter is weird, basically: "We won't disrupt a global service to protest a national issue" even thought it's a national issue that will disrupt their global service.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/14/white-house-sopa-pipa_n_1206347.html




http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/rupert-murdochs-sopa-twitter-rant.html







Umad murdoch?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

Who should join in to make it effective?

PayPal?
eBay?

Those are the first two the come to my still asleep head.

I think PayPal, Ebay, credit card companies, Google(completely) and Youtube should have joined. Bigger impact.

This needs to be stopped quick!

I'm disappointed that neither facebook nor twitter have done anything. A complete blackout on those two sites would probably be more harmful than helpful - considering how important social media is these days - but at least doing something like google and tumblr would be great.

Tumblr isn't completely offline, but when I went to it it popped up a message with info about SOPA and PIPA, gave me the option to black out my page for the day, and then has a form to contact your rep. Wordpress is also not offline but has blanked out most of the stuff on their main page and there are a huge number of plugins to black out your blog for the day - sadly I can't seem to find any that work with WP-hosted sites.

Also, I think that this will definitely help. SOPA's already been temporarily shelved because of all of the poor publicity surrounding it. There's also been next to no coverage of it (and even with people who know about SOPA, PIPA's gone entirely under the radar). Make more people aware, and there's a better chance of getting these killed for good.

Edit: WP has an option under Settings to black out your site for the day if you have one hosted on their servers (and thus don't have the option to install plugins). Sweet.

I DONT CARE AS LONG AS i STILL HAVE MY FAKE PORNO STORIES

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic



Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

Originally posted by rudester
I DONT CARE AS LONG AS i STILL HAVE MY FAKE PORNO STORIES

Well you seem to be fine then.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

The text isn't exactly small, how could you miss it?

Also that's kind of the point. Show people what the potential consequences of this passing could be.

Originally posted by rudester
I DONT CARE AS LONG AS i STILL HAVE MY FAKE PORNO STORIES

As opposed to Penthouse Forums?

I did check Literotica to see if they joined the blackout but it's still up. They use Hustler vs Falwell as a defense against potential copyright infringement so maybe they're not worried.

Originally posted by Peach
The text isn't exactly small, how could you miss it?

Also that's kind of the point. Show people what the potential consequences of this passing could be.

Well, I first just assumed it was something iffy with my computer, it's not like they got to the point and the text size is not small but a header with the relevant information on would have captured my focus better.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A Google blackout wouldn't really make sense since they don't operate in a way that could ever get them blocked. It would be a very loud message, though. Same with eBay and PayPal.
Under the bills' current language, Google could be prosecuted for "facilitating" piracy, as could literally any search engine, so this affects Google moreso than many sites, since they don't even need to do anything to get hit.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Under the bills' current language, Google could be prosecuted for "facilitating" piracy, as could literally any search engine, so this affects Google moreso than many sites, since they don't even need to do anything to get hit.

I wasn't aware of that. I guess they just don't want to loose revenue.


4chan is sort of participating, it isn't blacked out but all the text is spoilered.

A friend of mine has created an album of sites that are blacked out here. Pretty neat.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I wasn't aware of that. I guess they just don't want to loose revenue.


4chan is sort of participating, it isn't blacked out but all the text is spoilered.

That's participating They've 'censored' everything for now.

And yeah, the way these bills are written are really kind of messed up and show a complete ignorance of how the internet actually works.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic



Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

I think the protest will have an impact, and vastly raise awareness on the issue of internet censorship.

I've also found these sites participating randomly:

http://www.xda-developers.com

http://www.wpwallpaper.com/

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

Oh, and if you disable javascript in your browser you can still access wikipedia.

It explains so in the FAQ to the SOPA blackout http://goo.gl/LHuzL

I would say is working:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120118/02111117450/first-one-down-rep-lee-terry-removes-his-name-as-sopa-co-sponsor.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120118/07262317451/senator-marco-rubio-dropping-his-co-sponsorship-pipa.shtml

Aren't there only like 19 senators in favor of this anyways. That's not even close to the majority. I would assume this will get shot down.

Originally posted by socool8520
Aren't there only like 19 senators in favor of this anyways. That's not even close to the majority. I would assume this will get shot down.

Wrong.

Waaaaaaaay wrong.

It's surprisingly bi-partisan on both sides.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's surprisingly bi-partisan on both sides. That's probably cause there's no actual difference between the parties.

Originally posted by Peach
Wrong.

Waaaaaaaay wrong. Few of those people shown on the supporters list have actually switched sides recently.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's probably cause there's no actual difference between the parties.

They split along party lines on the issues most people are most passionate about. When people say "there's no difference" they just mean that "they don't care about my pet issues and I don't care about their pet issues", it just the disingenuous version is just better for manipulating people.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Few of those people shown on the supporters list have actually switched sides recently.

Well, that list is marked as having been updated today. I know that people have switched sides today though because of the internet blackouts and protests (I know there are protests going on in NYC today because of it), and I don't know how frequently that site is updated.

You have to click through to the SOPA and PIPA links on that page to really see where each one stands - the vast majority of the House is still shown as being unknown or undecided on SOPA. Whereas PIPA shows half as being unknown/undecided, but of those that have shown their support (or opposition), it's a 8:1 ratio.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's probably cause there's no actual difference between the parties.

Untrue. Both may still be pretty far to the right in terms of politics, but there is in fact quite a lot of differences between the two, and to say there's no actual difference is pretty damn ignorant.

Theres only one party. The corporate interest party.


Originally posted by Peach
Well, that list is marked as having been updated today. I know that people have switched sides today though because of the internet blackouts and protests (I know there are protests going on in NYC today because of it), and I don't know how frequently that site is updated.

You have to click through to the SOPA and PIPA links on that page to really see where each one stands - the vast majority of the House is still shown as being unknown or undecided on SOPA. Whereas PIPA shows half as being unknown/undecided, but of those that have shown their support (or opposition), it's a 8:1 ratio.


Okay. Just simply bringing more information to the table.

The operative difference is that most of the proponents receive funding from the MPAA or other organizations pushing for SOPA/PIPA while most opponents are either libertarian minded or receiving major funding and support from internet companies that will be hurt if this passes.

Edit: I get a kick out of Rupert Murdoch and Senator Dodd, AKA Chairman of the MPAA, trying to act like the opposition to SOPA is sinister corporatism from those dastardly internet companies. I suppose good old fashioned analog corporatism is perfectly alright.

They can't stop the network thus this will just be a huge waste of energy on the governments part. Idiots

Originally posted by Omega Vision
most opponents are either libertarian minded or receiving major funding and support from internet companies that will be hurt if this passes.

I'd like to think that at least a few of them just have a problem with anyone having nearly unlimited power to censor people.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Edit: I get a kick out of Rupert Murdoch and Senator Dodd, AKA Chairman of the MPAA, trying to act like the opposition to SOPA is sinister corporatism from those dastardly internet companies. I suppose good old fashioned analog corporatism is perfectly alright.

It is pretty hilarious to hear Murdoch to talk about the "corporate paymasters".

Originally posted by D-Wag
They can't stop the network thus this will just be a huge waste of energy on the governments part. Idiots

They can make the network really difficult to use, though. Sites can just constantly jump IPs but if SOPA or PIPA are interpreted as giving the authority to control search engines following them can be made absurdly difficult unless they use phone-chains to get the information out.

One response I've heard is just to let SOPA/PIPA pass they have the EFF and ACLU take it to the Supreme Court where it has virtually no chance of surviving.

http://i42.tinypic.com/5cbrmf.jpg

Where are these anonymous hackers...isn't it time for there offensive lmfao

Nothing but video making and westboro baptist church fighting. lol

4GYzD-8BOQU

http://gizmodo.com/5877219/sopa-outrage-is-breaking-the-senates-websites

So many people are trying to access Senators' websites to complain about SOPA that they're crashing. Awesome.

Edit: This is also a good read as to why SOPA and PIPA are so damn problematic.

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/us/wheres-my-wiki-sopa-pipa-and-balancing-rights/

I hope it is over soon but so far it has no effort on any of the sites I been on so far today.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2012/01/sopa-blackout-sopa-and-pipa-lose-three-co-sponsors-in-congress.html

Few more co-sponsors have withdrawn their support.

Also, it says that an estimated 10,000 sites have blacked out in protest. Wow.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I hope it is over soon but so far it has no effort on any of the sites I been on so far today. Lol you want everything to be over soon. So impatient!

Bill won't pass as it, it will be highly re-worked, likely targeting the medicinal sites more-so than movies/music and such, or not pass at all. I'd guess on a re-work.

I forget where I read it but people have pointed out that we shouldn't panic about SOPA "just being slowed down" since that's basically what a fillibuster is. Time is expensive and enough forced delays will strangle the bill.

This wont be the end of the MPAA and RIAA's attempts to pass this legislation, and when the issue is finally tied to national security and chinese hackers it will go through

also, google had no qualms working in the oppressive chinese system until hackers targeted them directly, sort of funny to see them as a bastion of free speech here...

Originally posted by Peach
Untrue. Both may still be pretty far to the right in terms of politics, but there is in fact quite a lot of differences between the two, and to say there's no actual difference is pretty damn ignorant.

not really...

sure, to someone inside the American political culture there are still things that are important on which they differ, for instance, abortion rights, state rights, health care, gun control, etc. However, for anyone who comes from another Western or developed nation, these are not simply local policies, but represent issues that are long settled. The fact that Dems and Reps differ on health care or abortion really doesn't seem salient in nations where such practices are not only resolved issues, in some cases (like public health care in Canada) they are considered part of the national identity. Because of this, it seems more silly and anachronistic that this is even being debated than otherwise, and frankly, given Obama's stance on gay marriage (he is against it), there is a lot of agreement on these types of issues between parties.

Of things that matter to foreigners watching your spectacle, issues of human rights, war, foreign policy, personal freedoms, financial issues, etc, there are few differences, and often Obama seems further right of even where the republicans are.

Like sym said, it is a matter of perspective, but for people for whom debates about state rights versus federal power don't really resonate, the differences aren't really that stark. You have crazy person and other crazy person who sort of accepts some of the things, but not all the way, that all other western nations already take for granted.

If only the film industry would put the same amount of effort into making quality films that are worth paying money to see as they are trying to hamstring sites that allow people to look at segments of their crappy movies, perhaps less people would pirate their films to begin with.

Looks like someone's not excited over the upcoming Battleship or Clash of The Titans part 2.

^^ lol

So, all is safe... for now at least? (sorry, I'm busy with school shit)

Originally posted by inimalist
Because of this, it seems more silly and anachronistic that this is even being debated than otherwise, and frankly, given Obama's stance on gay marriage (he is against it), there is a lot of agreement on these types of issues between parties.B]

So you don't think SOPA type legislation would get very far in other Western nations?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So you don't think SOPA type legislation would get very far in other Western nations?

Outside of some hand waving press releases, I haven't seen Obama take much of a position against the bill, certainly not in a way that would prevent him from signing it (re: NDAA), so I don't think SOPA stands as something we could say there is meaningful partisan differences about in the first place.

That being said, I think it could. the bigger problem, at least in Canada, would be getting anyone to talk about it in the broader media. I don't think our citizens would support it, but then, I also don't think our citizens would support how much money we are getting from China so that they can claim our oil infrastructure. It would be more a matter of what becomes public discourse.

However, our RCMP have stated many times that they have no interest in spending their time investigating things for the RIAA/MPAA, so there really might just be no political motivation for it.

EDIT: oops! I see the confusion, the line "this type of thing" refers back more to issues of health care and abortion that are a staple of American politics but seen as issues long settled in most Western nations, not to the SOPA legislation itself. Rather than being one of the differences outsiders don't understand, SOPA seems to be the type of thing that makes it appear to outsiders that there really are no distinctions between the parties.

As inimalist has stated in the past, these petty intellectual property wars will be a thing of the past. To me, this seems like the last desperate attempt from a failing system.

The worst way to stop piracy is to become totalitarian against the millennials. This will only result in a backfire. Prepare for cyberwar to be waged if these get passed in any atrocious form.

Exactly. That's the whole point. To someone in another country, it's just like "why are they even arguing about that in the first place" (I think that about a lot of stuff that comes up myself), but to us living here? Those differences are pretty big.

it's howard stern all over again

Originally posted by Peach
Exactly. That's the whole point. To someone in another country, it's just like "why are they even arguing about that in the first place" (I think that about a lot of stuff that comes up myself), but to us living here? Those differences are pretty big.

I actually do not get inimalists point at all.

There are major differences and both parties seem to lean to the right on SOME issues.


On some issues, republicans are further left (regulation, social programs, etc). On some issues, democrats are further left (abortion, marriage...or pretty much any "social" issue). This is not all-inclusive, either. You have things like blue-dog democrats and liberal republicans.

So it's back to what Marius said: they seem the same to outsiders because it is hard to get a single party to unite on "party lines" anyway. They both do seem to favor corporations so what Mairuzu said was correct, as well.

What were we talking about again?

Originally posted by dadudemon
As inimalist has stated in the past, these petty intellectual property wars will be a thing of the past. To me, this seems like the last desperate attempt from a failing system.

I'm pretty sure I've maintained that something like SOPA is an eventuallity... like, that's been a position I've held since before I joined these forums iirc...

I certainly dont think it is possible for the state to end piracy, but I am in no way optimistic about IP laws. I might see value in setting the system up in different ways, but I don't think monied or powerful interests will do it. I also support universal disarmament, obviously I don't think it will happen.

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm pretty sure I've maintained that something like SOPA is an eventuallity... like, that's been a position I've held since before I joined these forums iirc...

We talked about this before. You did say it would escalate but it would subside as we experienced a social change in how we handle "intellectual property". I only "invoked your name" as to not steal your ideas. I give credit when I can remember. I just don't feel comfortable claiming it as my original idea: seems dishonest.

Originally posted by inimalist
I also support universal disarmament, obviously I don't think it will happen.

I like hunting and eating what I've killed. Not in some sort of morbid "I want to kill" kind of way...but in a self-subsistence kind of way.

Meaning, I don't support universal disarmament. I support getting rid of weapons of mass destruction for sure.

This is an example of one of the few things I agree with libertarians on, an example wherein Big Business writes legislation to regulate their industry, using the rationale of preventing crime and theft of intellectual property with the intent of booting out smaller competition and engaging in extortion and theft from individuals.
Every time the MPAA or RIAA comes up in a thread I have to ask the same question. Why hasn't anyone utilized the Sherman Anti-Trust Act and/or RICO?

Finally got through to my Rep, it seems that his e-mail was down all day from accidental DDoS.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They split along party lines on the issues most people are most passionate about. When people say "there's no difference" they just mean that "they don't care about my pet issues and I don't care about their pet issues", it just the disingenuous version is just better for manipulating people.
Originally posted by Peach

Untrue. Both may still be pretty far to the right in terms of politics, but there is in fact quite a lot of differences between the two, and to say there's no actual difference is pretty damn ignorant.

Obviously it's somewhat hyperbolic, but there's little denying that on some of the most important issues there is tremendous bi-partisan support for screwing over the people.

Republicans seem more radical, and as a party seem to work together much better, but at least some democrats are definitely complicit in some of the worst decisions.

But again, it's not supposed to be an accurate statement, rather an expression of annoyance with the way politicians seem to often sell out the ideals their parties are supposed to have to screw over their citizens.

so whens the black out going to be over with??? any ideas? ooh who am I kidding I just use the internet for porn.

12 AM, Eastern Time it seems. So... 5 and 1/2 hours before you posted.

Green party

edit

And the cyber wars continue. Omegaupload was taken down today. Anonymous is looking for revenge. Lol.


http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike


So far they're bragging about the department of justice being taken down, which it has. Now they're working on other government websites. All according to their live updates to their twitter account this very second.







Looks like the government said **** sopa, lets go.


copyright.gov is now down

they are aiming at fbi.gov and whitehouse.gov

I do not support these illegal activities. However, I told it it was coming.


Their activities are certainly in the spirit of our founding fathers (and mothers). It reminds of the Boston Tea Party.

Row Row Fight Da Powah!

Pulling this kind of censorship shit the day after we've just finished protesting about it is one hell of a dick move. The government deserves a punch to the crotch for that imo.

Wow, the information has greatly changed since Peach posted the link:

Originally posted by Peach
Wrong.

Waaaaaaaay wrong.



That list...is...dynamic.



BTW: http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/B001228

Lookin' good. naughty

Bloody hell they're really going for it...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wow, the information has greatly changed since Peach posted the link:





That list...is...dynamic.



BTW: http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/B001228

Lookin' good. naughty You should have seen what it looked like during the time she posted it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bloody hell they're really going for it...


Indeed. I also like the "you're going to pay!!!!" And then they respond, "behind 8 anonymous proxies. GL:HF "

Originally posted by dadudemon
Their activities are certainly in the spirit of our founding fathers (and mothers). It reminds of the Boston Tea Party.

I'm not sure why people bring that up every time there's a protest. When the BTP happened it was because they lacked representation. Yesterday the American people just mass-mailed their representatives and appear to have pretty much succeeded in killing SOPA (though not PIPA). These vandals are purely due to half-formed anarchist philosophies.

Also no cries of majoritarianism?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure why people bring that up every time there's a protest. When the BTP happened it was because they lacked representation. Yesterday the American people just mass-mailed their representatives and appear to have pretty much succeeded in killing SOPA (though not PIPA). These vandals are purely due to half-formed anarchist philosophies.

Also no cries of majoritarianism?

Your points are very tangential to mine. Also, consider what reminds me of things will not remind others of things.


Why did it remind me of the Boston Tea Party?


Both are groups of people "sticking it to the man" because they feel their rights were being overrun by the big bad government. So they protested this by destroying government property.

Yes, those websites are government property. Yes, a DDoS against a website is a form of destruction. In both instances the government property is rendered "unusable".

In this instance, RIAA, the MPAA and the other interested organizations are the "East Indian Company" that seek to monopolize a "product".

The interested opposition are the various artisans and private business owners that made their own tea...which would be your Gizmodos, Google, Megauploads, etc. The Boston Tea Partiers are Anon. Those supporting the bill would be Parliament and the Crown. The Tea Act is SOPA (or PIPA).

Keep in mind, when I did this comparison (I have not heard of it being compared to the Boston Tea Party, at all, until I thought of it...I don't watch TV nor do I have cable to do so) it took me about 5 seconds. If I were to give it some real thought, I could have the essay on your desk, hole-punched and labeled, by Tuesday at 5 PM.






Actually, I'd cry about minoritarianism, not majoritarianism, because the minority were suppressing the extreme majority.

SOPA and PIPA are dead.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Maybe I'm not cynical enough but this seems like the best thing to happen to (Western) political activism in decades. With any luck we now have a population with a memory of being able to get effect things at a national level.

You're being incredibly optimistic about the US political system...

hmm

I think I like.



But, yes, the apathy of "you can't change the system" appears to have been wrong at least to some extent.


Someone should tell the Occupy Wall Street guys how to get shit done.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're being incredibly optimistic about the US political system...

hmm

I think I like.



But, yes, the apathy of "you can't change the system" appears to have been wrong at least to some extent.


Someone should tell the Occupy Wall Street guys how to get shit done.

I guess the proper cynical response should probably be that the system, apparently, works but We The People just don't care to make use of it until its very personal.

or we the people need the backing of some incredibly huge corporations...

EDIT: also, Google had no problem with censorship in China until they were attacked directly

Originally posted by inimalist
EDIT: also, Google had no problem with censorship in China until they were attacked directly

I thought Google was China's b*tch, much to Google's chagrin, until they were attacked.

In other words...it was like sex after 40 years of marriage at first but then it turned into sex with your mother-in-law...after 40 years of marriage.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought Google was China's b*tch, much to Google's chagrin, until they were attacked.

In other words...it was like sex after 40 years of marriage at first but then it turned into sex with your mother-in-law...after 40 years of marriage.

they didn't have to make buckets of money bending over to the Chinese government (who recently sentenced an individual to 9 years in prison for writing essays about democracy) just to access their markets.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

Who should join in to make it effective?

PayPal?
eBay?

Those are the first two the come to my still asleep head.
The 9/11 project a political message board joined.

LOL

http://i.qkme.me/35rid1.jpg

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
LOL

http://i.qkme.me/35rid1.jpg


HA! That's awesome.

Repost:

Originally posted by Phanteros
http://www.infowars.com/sopa-and-pipa-fully-alive-and-a-new-bill-joins-them/


Oh my ****ing god.......


Gafargle.

I really really hope it had an impact but the realist part of me knows that the MPAA has a ton of money to offer politicians and I'm sure the RIAA can chip in a few bucks as well. I saw somewhere that the average age of our current congress is 62...which, I'm not saying a person of that age is automatically incompetent with computers, but just imagine 100 copies of your grandparents voting on a sweeping internet bill like SOPA.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic



Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

yeah many of them are in favor of it which is no surprise.the majority of congress is corrupt,Bought off and paid for.I never thought any president could be more corrupt than Bushwacker but Obozo is.He has expanded everything Bushwacker got started.Buchwacker talked about getting rid of the net but Obozo is really trying to get it implemented.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
The 9/11 project a political message board joined.

I made a miste here in my post I just noticed.the site is actually called the 9/12 project.i was off by one number. they shut down and protested this.