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This is the scenario, The Juggernaut (Cain Marko) vs Mjolnir in an enchantment war. Cain is fitted with an indestructible harness, and this harness is strapped on Mjolnir. The idea here is whether or not Cain can move Mjolnir from it's resting place by moving in a forward direction, or would he be stopped in his tracks.

Mjolnir rests on an indestructible floor. The floor is 20 meters wide, by 20 meters long, by 6 meters deep, and has grooves in it to improve his traction. Can Cain move Mjolnir 10 meters, or will the enchantment hold up to even the unstoppable?

The enchantment placed on Mjolnir is stronger than the one on Cain. He stops dead in his tracks I'd wager.

yeah odin shudbe able to negate it longer than thor did etc..or even fully

Odin's enchantment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other skyfather and lower being so far on panel. Juggernaut wont' budge it.

Juggernaut flips on his back.

Juggs would most likely slowly budge it, the same way he was slowly about to push against the god blast after he tried to gain momentum

I don't recall him actually moving forward against the GB.

he didnt, he was about to as indicated by narration.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he didnt, he was about to as indicated by narration. No he wasn't

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
No he wasn't why dont you just post the ****ing scan? im 100% right

Odin's enchantment.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
why dont you just post the ****ing scan? im 100% right

Why don't you post the scan?

Odin's Enchantment.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
why dont you just post the ****ing scan? im 100% right Originally posted by Silent Master
Why don't you post the scan?

when you're right you never have to back it up

Here he is completely negating Juggernaut's FF and hence his invulnerability:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5263/thorvsjuggernaut10.th.jpg

Here he is pushing Juggernaut back (it says he's struggling to gain momentum) :
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/152/thorvsjuggernaut08.th.jpg

Nothing beats Odin's enchantments (at least nothing Skyfather or lower level). And it seems that Cyttorak isn't beyond Skyfather.

Originally posted by zopzop
Here he is completely negating Juggernaut's FF and hence his invulnerability:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5263/thorvsjuggernaut10.th.jpg

Here he is pushing Juggernaut back (it says he's struggling to gain momentum) :
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/152/thorvsjuggernaut08.th.jpg

Nothing beats Odin's enchantments (at least nothing Skyfather or lower level). And it seems that Cyttorak isn't beyond Skyfather.


The first thing that I read about Cytoyrak was a bio in the marvel handbooks, and it said that the only way that the elder deities were able to stop him from destroying all of creation, which I took at that time to be multiversal, was to trap him within the Crimson Cosmos. It took more than one elder to do this as well, so I'm not too positive on Odin being more powerful than Cytorrak.

Originally posted by Stoic
The first thing that I read about Cytoyrak was a bio in the marvel handbooks, and it said that the only way that the elder deities were able to stop him from destroying all of creation, which I took at that time to be multiversal, was to trap him within the Crimson Cosmos. It took more than one elder to do this as well, so I'm not too positive on Odin being more powerful than Cytorrak.

The thing is, Handbooks are pretty unreliable unless they confirm what has been shown on panel. Does this statement appear in a comic?

Originally posted by zopzop
Here he is completely negating Juggernaut's FF and hence his invulnerability:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5263/thorvsjuggernaut10.th.jpg

Here he is pushing Juggernaut back (it says he's struggling to gain momentum) :
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/152/thorvsjuggernaut08.th.jpg

Nothing beats Odin's enchantments (at least nothing Skyfather or lower level). And it seems that Cyttorak isn't beyond Skyfather.
Well Cain says that if the ground wouldn't crumble beneath him he would have won...so it's possible that he could have regained momentum...:P

Maybe, but probably not.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4311/weakthorvsjuggernaut14.th.jpg

Gotta say, for such a tiny beam of energy to overcome Cytorrak's enchantment, the force alone behind the God Blast must be crazy.

it also chased galactus off, cracked exitar armor etc.

It didn't just crack Exitar's armor, it broke his brain dome casing which is a tougher substance. The explosion created by the God Blast was also large (Exitar is over 20,000 feet right? Pretty impressive radius that.) and powerful enough to stun him momentarily.

As powerful as the Celestials were, that's the next best thing to God Blasting like a non-jobbing Eternity and affecting him.

I wish a writer explored Thor's potential (San's Odin Force) or whatever. If his walking around with that much energy inside of him, it'd be interesting to see what he could do with some practice. I don't think I've ever seen Thor do any sort of training outside of some teenage sword shenanigans. Even Hulk/Superman have practiced and increased their capabilities.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Maybe, but probably not.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4311/weakthorvsjuggernaut14.th.jpg

Gotta say, for such a tiny beam of energy to overcome Cytorrak's enchantment, the force alone behind the God Blast must be crazy. According to H1, the God Blast is less powerful than a planet destroying attack from say Terrax, Gladiator, or Surfer.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
According to H1, the God Blast is less powerful than a planet destroying attack from say Terrax, Gladiator, or Surfer.



That's stupid. The God Blast one shotted Zelia (She wouldn't even acknowledge planet destroying attacks), had Galactus flee in fear of his life (In that very same comic, Ego unleashed a blast that destroyed entire planets and IIRC Galactus didn't even notice it), and broke Exitar's dome (Planetary force isn't even on the radar). It also cracked Mjolnir which is far beyond planetary.

You need to look in the higher Skfather tier if you want to trump the power output the God Blast can unleash.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


That's stupid. The God Blast one shotted Zelia (She wouldn't even acknowledge planet destroying attacks), had Galactus flee in fear of his life (In that very same comic, Ego unleashed a blast that destroyed entire planets and IIRC Galactus didn't even notice it), and broke Exitar's dome (Planetary force isn't even on the radar). It also cracked Mjolnir which is far beyond planetary.

You need to look in the higher Skfather tier if you want to trump the power output the God Blast can unleash. Oh I know what it has done, that's why I was surprised to find out it wasn't even planetary level power. The more you know though.