Goliath (Gargoyles) vs Batman

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Starscream M
Fight at midnight in Gotham. Batman has standard gear and no prep.

Who wins?

KingD19
Depends if Batman has prep or not.

If it's just a straight up fight, Goliath takes a majority. He punched his claws through a steel vault door, then ripped it off it's hinges, then chucked it.

Starscream M
no prep.

carver9
Goliath takes this.

srankmissingnin
Goliath, he was denied everything, even his REVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENGE!

KingD19
And even though Batman is a nocturnal hero; Goliath is a nocturnal apex predator.

srankmissingnin
First Batman's all
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpoj23kBTj1qcheado4_r1_500.gif
Then he sees this
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz3b21WbaY1r9y9xxo1_500.gif
And he is all like
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx96hrUTqw1qmrqk9o1_500.jpg

KingD19
WIn.

cdtm
Goliath suffered from the Worf Effect after season 1.

Seriously, he got his ass kicked all the time, by enhanced and unenhanced humans, aliens, characters in suited armor, or any time he got in a fight.. He was almost dropped to his knees by four or five normal humans simply hanging off his wings, which was worth a laugh. big grin

cdtm
By the way, remember when Goliath was under a mind control spell, and since it couldn't be removed he was ordered to act as if he wasn't under a spell?

I envisioned the spell spawning an exact duplicate personality, and the real Goliath still locked in there somewhere. Call me a cynic, I just can't see his release being that easy. big grin

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by cdtm
By the way, remember when Goliath was under a mind control spell, and since it couldn't be removed he was ordered to act as if he wasn't under a spell?

I envisioned the spell spawning an exact duplicate personality, and the real Goliath still locked in there somewhere. Call me a cynic, I just can't see his release being that easy. big grin

And Batman has trouble with Bane. Goliath rips Batman's arms off.

cdtm
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
And Batman has trouble with Bane. Goliath rips Batman's arms off.

So? Banes not exactly weak, that guy could give classic Fisk trouble.

cdtm
Originally posted by KingD19
Depends if Batman has prep or not.

If it's just a straight up fight, Goliath takes a majority. He punched his claws through a steel vault door, then ripped it off it's hinges, then chucked it.

Stats wise, Goliath's pretty strong. When the illuminati trapped him, he was ripping apart heavy metal doors like they were made of paper...

But if MacBeth could school him using nothing but h2h skill, Batman should as well...

And as much as I'd like to say Goliath wins this, it's hard to seriously defend him when he couldn't even avoid being shot by wheelchair bound Halcyon Renard. sad

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