No Kony talk?

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Mairuzu
No ones talking about this bull shit scam?

0mega Spawn
probably because its a scam...

Mairuzu
A scam that is working with flying colors. Obama's campaign is doing work. Vietnam. Iraq. Afghansitan. Africa and Iran here we come.

Symmetric Chaos
Obama didn't send us into Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan. He sent us into Lybia.

I assume you're talking about the short documentary. What about it do you think is a scam? (I haven't seen it personally)

jaden101
I know who's gonna be playing him in the film version.

jaden101
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Digi
Well, the Invisible Children campaign hasn't clearly defined what the money is going toward. The Obama administration hasn't sent any signals that they ever planned to remove the troops we have stationed in Uganda that are helping to track Kony. And it's unclear how the money being donated will have a tangible affect. I'm not saying IC can't make a difference with their funding, but hey don't actually have a clear outline of how to do it.

And, on a more sobering and cynical note, Uganda has human rights abuses all over the place, and nothing resembling a democracy. Eliminating Kony would be a step in the right direction, but a very small step.

There's also claims that the video has some misinformation.

So yes, possible scam.

No one doesn't want the guy eliminated. There isn't two sides to that discussion. But the apathy and backlash is due to skepticism over the fundraising combined with the fact that many people don't think that, say, signing a Facebook petition will affect a third world war villain.

Mairuzu
^ Agreed. Kony hasnt been seen and hasnt been active since 2006. Where was everyone then? Now everyone and their mother is on it, literally. People on my facebook, kids even, that never express their concern for world views are posting this "support the international effort to arrest him."

The video even goes as far as showing the IC crew cheering that Obama will send in 100 troops... 5 years after the fact.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Obama didn't send us into Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan. He sent us into Lybia.

I assume you're talking about the short documentary. What about it do you think is a scam? (I haven't seen it personally)

Would have been weird if obama did send us into vietnam. All young and stuff. I'm talking about this country as a whole and their expansion accross the globe. stick out tongue



As for why I think its a scam... I think its simply propaganda. Just like iraq. Obama is looking for reelection. I believe its how this video was so widely spread in a matter of hours. I hear complains of youtube viewers all the time stating that they purposely dont update their view counts even when the amount of "like" exceeds the amount of "views" yet in this particular case I watched all day as the view count went from 1 million to 4 million to 7 million to 32 million and now after a few days we see its at 50+ million. All this im saying is speculation of course but I'd like to think I have a good grasp on common sense.

Stoic
I hate pricks that exploit children to their own gain. Kony is an evil piece of shit, and I have considered supporting the movement myself. It's only a couple of bucks per month, so if it's a scam It's not like I'm being taken for millions of dollars. However, if it is real, and this bastard is caught because of little people like me, then great. No more children forced to kill their parents, or little girls forced into prostitution by this particular cretin. This is what we were put on this earth to do people, to help each other. No?

0mega Spawn
Obamas gonna need more than a terrorists head under his belt to gain a re election.

these new policies are gonna fk that up

not that I care no expression

Stoic
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Obamas gonna need more than a terrorists head under his belt to gain a re election.

these new policies are gonna fk that up

not that I care no expression


You think the guy after Obama will do better? Lol it's just going to be more of the same old shit, except the pressure to pay more taxes than the rich will be placed more firmly on the poor, and middle class. All Presidents are puppets to a certain extent.

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by Digi
Well, the Invisible Children campaign hasn't clearly defined what the money is going toward. The Obama administration hasn't sent any signals that they ever planned to remove the troops we have stationed in Uganda that are helping to track Kony. And it's unclear how the money being donated will have a tangible affect. I'm not saying IC can't make a difference with their funding, but hey don't actually have a clear outline of how to do it.

And, on a more sobering and cynical note, Uganda has human rights abuses all over the place, and nothing resembling a democracy. Eliminating Kony would be a step in the right direction, but a very small step.

There's also claims that the video has some misinformation.

So yes, possible scam.

No one doesn't want the guy eliminated. There isn't two sides to that discussion. But the apathy and backlash is due to skepticism over the fundraising combined with the fact that many people don't think that, say, signing a Facebook petition will affect a third world war villain.

I think, (don't quote me on this) that Kony campaign wants to raise funds for Ugandan army as well in order to capture Kony.
(I think that's what their movie suggests, but I am really not sure)

If it's true, this in itself is questionable because, as you said, Uganda does have terrible human right violations.

Omega Vision
From what I hear the group they're funding is a rival militia that really isn't much better than the LRA.

Mairuzu
http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg



Originally posted by Omega Vision
From what I hear the group they're funding is a rival militia that really isn't much better than the LRA.


They also just found oil. Ugandan government expected to make a few billions by 2015.

Lord Lucien
This short article:

Kony 2012: Why I'm Opposed To The Campaign

is a good read.

Mairuzu
Yeah thats one of the three Ive read. The others are good reads as well. Along with this ugandan girl whos parents were born in uganda (now lives in usa)

Apparently she visited uganda recently in 2010. Claimed they arent worried about LRA or Kony, her parents even laughed and claimed hes long gone, maybe even dead.



And this: http://pomee.tumblr.com/post/18899601760/kony-2012-causing-more-harm-than-good




I just can't believe how fast this is blowing up. Frightening even.

Symmetric Chaos
Seems like an elaborate and pointless conspiracy, honestly. Nice to know Ron Paul voters will grasp at any straw.

Mairuzu
You mean the opposition to the campaign or the campaign itself? Knowing you you're talking about the former. stick out tongue

0mega Spawn
Originally posted by Stoic
You think the guy after Obama will do better? Lol it's just going to be more of the same old shit, except the pressure to pay more taxes than the rich will be placed more firmly on the poor, and middle class. All Presidents are puppets to a certain extent. thats what i already believe.

thus the

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Yeah thats one of the three Ive read. The others are good reads as well. Along with this ugandan girl whos parents were born in uganda (now lives in usa)

Apparently she visited uganda recently in 2010. Claimed they arent worried about LRA or Kony, her parents even laughed and claimed hes long gone, maybe even dead.



And this: http://pomee.tumblr.com/post/18899601760/kony-2012-causing-more-harm-than-good That was a good article. I love seeing hyped up tripe being knocked down.

Mairuzu
Ive seen hyped up stuff in social media... i think kony went beyond that. Its crazy.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Ive seen hyped up stuff in social media... i think kony went beyond that. Its crazy.

Yeah, we get that you're chill with genocide and the use of child soldiers but are you really incapable of realizing how that might seem horrible to others?

Mairuzu
Lol you're not even worth acknowledging stick out tongue


You can't grasp a single thing going on in this thread. I think you have some sort of crush on me bro.


You might be gay bro

Bardock42
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Obama is looking for reelection. I believe its how this video was so widely spread in a matter of hours.


It all makes sense now. Rebecca Black....Obama is black....reelection secured!

Sancty
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http://www.boingboing.net/2012/03/08/african-voices-respond-to-hype.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-campaign-oprah-and-bracelets

and Invisible Children's response to the criticism:
http://invisible.tumblr.com/post/18929372614/invisible-childrens-official-response

Mairuzu
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Mairuzu
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Symmetric Chaos
There are so many responses to Kony2012 that it seems almost like an organized movement, as though they all knew about this beforehand and were given money by one central source in order to push a political agenda. Now that's speculation of course but I like to think I have a good grasp on common sense.

Mairuzu
Edit: Are you talking about supporters or opposing responses?

Symmetric Chaos
Opposing responses.

I haven't seen *any* supporting responses. In fact I'm not extirely sure that this supposed documentary exists at all.

Listen I'm not saying that Ron Paul dressed up as a black guy and commited war crimes in Uganda in set up the anti-Kony2012 movement, its just that I can't know where he is every second of every day.

Mr. Rhythmic
There's a fine line between helping others and perpetuating ignorance.

Colossus-Big C
im not sending a dime untill im convinced its not a scam. ive seen old videos of kony stating he didnt do that stuff..

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
ive seen old videos of kony stating he didnt do that stuff..
Lulz. His word against all the kids he's hurt, amirite?

Clone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYpzVA5lRwI&feature=share

Mairuzu
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Opposing responses.

I haven't seen *any* supporting responses. In fact I'm not extirely sure that this supposed documentary exists at all.

Listen I'm not saying that Ron Paul dressed up as a black guy and commited war crimes in Uganda in set up the anti-Kony2012 movement, its just that I can't know where he is every second of every day.


crylaugh oh dear god man. Do you read what you write before you press send?


haermm it has nothing to do with Ron Paul just fyi. I cant even take you serious anymore man.



Originally posted by Clone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYpzVA5lRwI&feature=share


Ive been messaging bob to hurry up and do a video on it. Aced it.


oYpzVA5lRwI

Digi
Originally posted by Mairuzu
crylaugh oh dear god man. Do you read what you write before you press send?


haermm it has nothing to do with Ron Paul just fyi. I cant even take you serious anymore man.

I thought his sarcasm was relatively obvious there. The part about doubting the existence of the documentary should've sealed it. srug

Clone
Originally posted by Mairuzu
crylaugh oh dear god man. Do you read what you write before you press send?


haermm it has nothing to do with Ron Paul just fyi. I cant even take you serious anymore man.






Ive been messaging bob to hurry up and do a video on it. Aced it.


oYpzVA5lRwI cool smile

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Digi
I thought his sarcasm was relatively obvious there. The part about doubting the existence of the documentary should've sealed it. srug

It wasn't the "Ron Paul is secretly both Kony and Invisible Children" part? I even did it in the "I'm not saying I have proof, just that we should consider it" style that conspiracy buffs like to use to weasel in ideas.

Not being sure if they documentary even existed was probably the most serious part of that post. I've literally seen nothing but "Kony2012 is a plot to have the US invade Uganada" posts on the subject. The conspiracy lobby is not one I'm especially trusting of. I don't doubt there really is a video but of all the things I said it seems like by far the most likely to me.

Mairuzu
My bad, sometimes I just think you're really that dumb haermm


Don't see the point in the post then.


Also the reason why I said I don't take you serious anymore. stoned

Its more like learning the past 12 years of history (also helps to go even furthers) and putting the dots together. Its Iraq all over again. I guess we'll have to wait until its too late stoned

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Also the reason why I said I don't take you serious anymore.

Don't worry about it, I haven't taken you seriously in a long time.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Its Iraq all over again

Yeah, I remember when the government secretly funded a humanitarian group to make a documentary about Iraq roll eyes (sarcastic)

inimalist
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Its Iraq all over again.

how?

Omega Vision
We're not going to invade Uganda (and before ini corrects me I mean a balls-deep invasion, not the hundred specialists we've already sent). At least I highly doubt we will. Republicans and Hawkish Dems talk about invading a place for at least a few months before it actually happens.

Mairuzu
Your faith in the US government overseas is disturbing. Dangerously disturbing.

inimalist
Americans support the Ugandan government... why would they invade?

Colossus-Big C
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Mairuzu
Originally posted by inimalist
Americans support the Ugandan government... why would they invade?


awebrow

Robtard
The West doesn't give two-shits about Africa, just more posturing when needed. They're happy to have Africa be in a constant state of turmoil, so the goods can be more easily pillaged.

And no, Uganda won't be another Iraq, don't be a tool. Once the story has run its needed course, you won't hear a word.

inimalist
Originally posted by Mairuzu
awebrow

I know, its not like Iraq at all

Mairuzu

inimalist
right, I'm an idiot because "oil + americans" isn't a nuanced enough look at the contexts...

this one is laughable man...

RE: Blaxican

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mairuzu
What exactly are they going to advise by the way? Kony hasn't been spotted there in 6+ years. Kony is also expected dead by many Ugandan people themselves.

Once a person leaves a place they can never come back to it? Troops were sent to help advise the Ugandan government in building defenses in case Kony (or someone else) attacks again. Evidently the US intelligence community thinks Kony is alive, the fact that some Ugandans don't is pretty immaterial (some Brits think Paul McCartney is dead after all). Even if Kony himself is dead the LRA is definately still active, they were killing people in Uganda as recently as 2009.

Patient_Leech
Jon Stewart makes me chuckle.. laughing out loud

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-12-2012/my-little-kony?xrs=share_copy

Mairuzu
^ Lol


I wonder what the outcome of this thread would have been if I was for Kony 2012 haermm

inimalist
In that case, I'd say the Americans could probably spend their lives and treasure on something less complex and predictably a terrible idea than getting involved in the conflict in DRC

Omega Vision
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17375701

inimalist
good friend of mine shared this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-international-obsession-with-joseph-kony-is-already-ending/254510/

cynical and interesting, idk, I really liked this:



AJE, as always, has a good show on this:

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And as OV pointed out, the Ugandans themselves are not very happy about this:

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/14/ugandas_outrage_over_kony_2012/



idk, it would be nice if we lived in a perfect world and all people like Kony could be brought to justice simply through being brought into the public eye and people agreeing he is terrible... but ya... it appears this campaign might be a little naive to say the least.

and ya, just to reiterate... god damn, wtf is wrong with America if they think they want to get involved in the conflict in DRC...

Symmetric Chaos
The Ugandan response is really bizarre. I get the "privileged white kids" thing but "this will make Kony famous" sounds cultural, like its better to forget about him. Bigirimana is obviously towing the party line there.

Mairuzu
A little bit of... icing... on the cake.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/16/10721745-report-invisible-children-co-founder-detained-by-police-charity-made-kony-2012-video

alltoomany
Who is buying these young poor girls and boy??? Or is this just Hunky talk?

jaden101
Just a gentle reminder that Kony is still out there. #Kony2017

Flyattractor
I heard they used to have a pretty cool island on the east coast.

Lord Lucien
You guys 'member 2012?

jaden101
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You guys 'member 2012?

The world ended, mate. The mayans did it.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by jaden101
Just a gentle reminder that Kony is still out there. #Kony2017

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/270/784/005.jpg

Is Jason Russell going to have another nude public masturbation meltdown?

Flyattractor
I heard he died from a case of lethal underball sunburn.

jaden101
Still out there people.

Trump will get him though.

#Kony2018

jaden_2.0
He's still out there waiting

#Kony2021
#KoronaKony

ilikecomics
Lmao jaden have you seen this ?

https://youtu.be/k1FKS1SHSsc

jaden_2.0
I enjoyed that very much.

ilikecomics
rock rock rock

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
He's still out there waiting

#Kony2021
#KoronaKony

Your commitment to timing and this thread is commendable.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/614/639/9df.gif

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Robtard
Your commitment to timing and this thread is commendable.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/614/639/9df.gif

It's an important anniversary. More than that New York thing for sure

Joseph Kony
**** you honky.

jaden_2.0
It's been 10 years and Kony is still out there.

Thanks Obama

Robtard
A decade of Kony, who could have known.


"Joseph Kony is a Ugandan militant, who founded the Lord's Resistance Army, a Christian fundamentalist organization, designated as a terrorist group" -snip

Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
A decade of Kony, who could have known.


"Joseph Kony is a Ugandan militant, who founded the Lord's Resistance Army, a Christian fundamentalist organization, designated as a terrorist group" -snip did dey find da wey?

Robtard
TBF, Obama did win reelection and the US did invade Uganda or something, so #Kony2012 was a success or more somethings.

Jaden_3.0
#Kony2023

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
#Kony2023

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/270/784/005.jpg

Is Jason Russell going to have another nude public masturbation meltdown?

Jaden_3.0
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cdtm
I don't recognize the last one but feel like I should.

Jaden_3.0
Follow the white rabbit

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
https://media.tenor.com/EAM9FYOKo-sAAAAC/possibly-jango-possibly.gif
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https://media.tenor.com/wzZuQbL2_4cAAAAC/matrix-dejour.gif

Never mind, I found uncensored images online, and he has a tiny dick. By that, I do not mean "average" or "small," but legitimately tiny. I can see why he puts so much effort into his body.

Robtard
Doesn't that just mean he'd be the forever bottom?

Adam_PoE

Robtard
Thank you and excuse my gay-sex ignorance.

Damn, poor Jason... maybe he's a grower and not a shower?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
Thank you and excuse my gay-sex ignorance.

Damn, poor Jason... maybe he's a grower and not a shower?

Growers tend to get about 300% larger when erect. That would still put him firmly in the small category.

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Growers tend to get about 300% larger when erect. That would still put him firmly in the small category.

God damn, poor fella. Talk about hard losing the genetics lottery.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
God damn, poor fella. Talk about hard losing the genetics lottery.

I think that is why he is so fit and facially attractive. Men can be gifted with face, body, and/or dick. Most men have one or two, but it is rare for someone to have all three. So he was alotted face and body, but short-changed on dick.

jaden_2.0
#KonyIsStillOutThere

#Kony2024

Patient_Leech
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't recognize the last one but feel like I should. Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
Follow the white rabbit

cdtm is clearly not red-pilled enough.

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
#KonyIsStillOutThere

#Kony2024

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Adam_PoE
But will it lead to another Jason Russell nude meltdown?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/270/059/c30.gif

Robtard
Didn't you conclude he has a teeny tiny one?

Adam_PoE
Yeah, it is sad. He is hot otherwise. But looks do not matter as much as size when the lights are off.

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