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Is that a bad thing?

I've been playing Under a Killing Moon out of nostalgia, because I used to love playing all kinds of adventure games, including the perser based version of Space Quest and even pure text games like Zork or Hitchhikers Guide.. But thinking about it, the "Gameplay" of an adventure game is usually tons of grinding.. Going through every pixel/area with a fine tooth comb, making sure you take everything that's not nailed down (And trying not to forget to save in case you do forget something and it breaks the game), and in the case of parser games you'll sometimes spend weeks simply fighting with the parser over phrasing a simple action.

All the fun of writing code, basically.

I'm still enjoying my replay of UAKM, but I don't think I could ever go back to enjoying them like I used to... Times have changed, and the adventure game model simply isn't fun anymore. At least, not for me...

They're far from dead.....

ever heard of a game developer called Telltale?

In my opinion both games like Uncharted and Metroid are Adventure games, and they're still very much alive (Metroid not so much right now, but I don't think it's gone just yet).

I think the type of adventure game cdtm is thinking of is alot of the old games from Lucasarts.

While they've somewhat declined in the West they're still far from dead and the Japanese adventure game industry is as alive as ever.

Look no further than To the Moon for a very awesome and recent adventure game:

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uncharted, Tomb Raider, Darksiders, Zelda, I am alive, back to the future, sam and max, Mass effect, assassins creed, red dead redemption..., Yeah i totally agree. Adventure games are dead. I think someone just doesn't have the gaming prowess to play modern adventure games and want more lame ass point and click games. Either way, they still make those too.

Well this needs clear definition. Games like Zelda and Assassin's Creed are not in the same genre as Sam & Max and Day of the Tentacle, and if you are calling both sorts adventure games you have a problem.

This thread is about the graphical adventures that were the evolution from text-based interactive fiction (which in turn is very much alive and thriving on the amateur circuit, with some of the best developer tools around). Let's restrict talk to that genre, thanks.

It IS a shame they have declined, and Telltale is 50/50 on quality. Strong Bad was awesome, though.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
uncharted, Tomb Raider, Darksiders, Zelda, I am alive, back to the future, sam and max, Mass effect, assassins creed, red dead redemption..., Yeah i totally agree. Adventure games are dead. I think someone just doesn't have the gaming prowess to play modern adventure games and want more lame ass point and click games. Either way, they still make those too.

Almost every one of those games you listed are action-adventure, which is very different from adventure.

It's only different in the sense that you have more control. Point and click games are stagnate adventures which to me isn't very exciting at all and i really don't see how they can be considered adventure games at all. Action and adventure is one and the same.

Your opinion doesn't change that the genre is considered "Adventure games" though.

Indeed- sorry, jinxed., but what you 'consider' is neither here nor there. It is simply incorrect to consider those games in the same genre by any useful definition of that word; they have fundamentally different styles, objectives and target demographics. This thread is not about Zelda-like games. Ironic that you say that action and adventure are one and the same, when half the point of the graphic adventure genre was to avoid action and the skills associated with it. Lucasarts even released its Indiana Jones games (Last Crusade and Fate of Atlantis) in separate 'Action' and 'Adventure' versions, the adventure version being purely cerebral. No-one remembers the action versions, incidentally, as they were both crap.

Does anyone have a favourite from the graphic adventure genre?

I really enjoyed Longest Journey.

Want to try the Blackwell chronicles those games look good

Originally posted by Ushgarak


Does anyone have a favourite form the graphic adventure genre?

Sam & Max and Monkey Island games even the episodes from Telltale.

Actually, I never played Longest Journey, despite the good press.

Which Monkey Island was your favourite? I remember IV having a strong start and falling apart later; such a shame.

I bought Longest journey and its sequel during a steam sale. Although the sequel is more action adventury (and not in a good way) Both have excellent stories.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Which Monkey Island was your favourite? I remember IV having a strong start and falling apart later; such a shame.

It would have to be The Secret of Monkey Island

i noticed on steam there's quite a few indie adventure games on there.

Graphic adventures have been pretty big on the indie circuit.

I thought Fate of Atlantis was stunning, though Day of the Tentacle was its main rival.

I honestly can't remember ever playing one that I really enjoyed.

More recently it'd have to be Secret of Monkey Island. As a teeny kid I distinctly remember playing some sort of laid-back adventure game with two dinosaurs as the main characters. I cannot for the life of me remember what it was called, though.

Hope not, I want a sequel to DreamFall.

Alot of those ones from Sierra were hard Kings/Space quest, One screw up and your character was dead.

After reading the thread...I still think the definition is too damn fuzzy.

What is an adventure game? By the definitions I'm reading, it can be so many different things. Do point-and-click games count? If so, there's plenty of those around these days on flash-based gaming sites (newgrounds, kongregate, etc). I would say the quality of some of those games (the new ones built for flash-websites) surpasses the quality of those old-school games from the early 90s.

Does anyone remember the text-based adventure games? I remember those days...on the Commodore 64. :"


Edit - Oh, and how would you guys classify Heavy Rain? I'm having a hard time calling it an RPG, Adventure, or Action game. It has elements of all 3...but less so on the action. I believe Catherine counts, though: but it is similar to Heavy Rain, imo.

Originally posted by dadudemon
After reading the thread...I still think the definition is too damn fuzzy.

What is an adventure game?By the definitions I'm reading, it can be so many different things.

well for this thread its the point & click games

although alot of them now you don't really need to use the mouse that more of an optional thing since you actually can control the character.

I don't think I could ever go back to enjoying them like I used to... Times have changed, and the adventure game model simply isn't fun anymore.http://www.datamar.info/avatar4.jpg