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Bloodlust on & standard equipment for HM

Originally posted by majid86
Bloodlust on & standard equipment for HM

Is the Claw of Horus standard for HM?

yes

Srank's wolverine just laughs at claw of horus.durverine

Pfff.. Wolverine teleports and stabs him in the head.

With the Claw Hawkman wins, without it Wolverine takes this. The Claw shouldn't really be allowed, but even with it Wolverine puts up a fight. Judging by how hard he has been hit in the past and just recently by Ragnorak, Wolverine can really take a hit.

Do the claws of Horus exist in the DCNU?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Srank's wolverine just laughs at claw of horus.durverine

"Srank's Wolverine," while synonyms with Marvels Wolverine, is apparently an "insult" used by people who really really really want to believe the one time Daredevil hurt Wolverine in a Garth Ennis comic is more valid than the twenty some odd times Wolverine has fought the Hulk...

Anyway back on topic. The Claw of Horus is not standard gear. Even if it was standard gear it's not a deal breaker. It has less then a dozen appearances and Queen Shrike was able to eat half a dozen blows from the thing with little effect. I guess I can expect idiots to call it "Srank's Claw of Horus" as a thinly valid attempt to cover the fact that once again I know more then they do, as they imply that my opinion is somehow irrelevant?

Originally posted by jalek moye Do the claws of Horus exist in the DCNU?

nope. at least not yet.

I think Srank has read enough of both characters to be right here. HM can always fly perpetually and die from old age

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Anyway back on topic. The Claw of Horus is not standard gear. Even if it was standard gear it's not a deal breaker. It has less then a dozen appearances and Queen Shrike was able to eat half a dozen blows from the thing with little effect.

It was standard gear for pre-new universe HM as he used it all throughout Brightest Day and in Hawkman V.4. However, as far as I know current Hawkman doesn't use it or has it even appeared. So I would say it is NOT standard gear as the rules for the board you go by the current version of the character unless stipulated.

So standard gear is, what, an nth metal mace and a sword?

That nth metal gear is pretty nasty stuff... He was the only one in a team that included Superman and Captain Marvel who actually drew blood off Despero.

I think this would be a good fight.. Lot of blood spilled, lot of punishment dished out. Wolverine probably wins..

Originally posted by Bentley
I think Srank has read enough of both characters to be right here. HM can always fly perpetually and die from old age

I'd prefer an equally knowledgeable, less biased source.

Srank backs Wolverine like Carver backs Hulk or Gladiator.

Originally posted by cdtm So standard gear is, what, an nth metal mace and a sword? That nth metal gear is pretty nasty stuff... He was the only one in a team that included Superman and Captain Marvel who actually drew blood off Despero. I think this would be a good fight.. Lot of blood spilled, lot of punishment dished out. Wolverine probably wins..

didnt he also hurt adam and magog?

Hawkman 10/10

Hawkman for the ko.

Hawkman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hawkman

Yeah you can say that now, because Wolverine doesn't have his HF, but back when this thread was made, Logan would have tore Hawkman apart. I can't see Hawkman taking a punch from the Hulk that sends him flying half a mile, only to get up begging for round two, or trying to reason with an out of control Sasquatch while being beaten into the ground.

Lol you said he wins too, with the claw.

This thread has over 1k views lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol you said he wins too, with the claw.

Only with the claw, but without it Wolverine would have beaten him at that time. His damage soak for a guy of his strength class was ridiculous when he had his HF. Now his skeleton is more of a detriment to him than it is a plus.

Ah well.

OP said he had the claw, anyway.

Well if we go by current versions of Wolverine and Hawkman, then Hawkman stomps.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah you can say that now, because Wolverine doesn't have his HF, but back when this thread was made, Logan would have tore Hawkman apart. I can't see Hawkman taking a punch from the Hulk that sends him flying half a mile, only to get up begging for round two, or trying to reason with an out of control Sasquatch while being beaten into the ground.

Exactly b/c its not like Hawkman has taken blows from Solomon Grundy, manage to hurt Despero when the JLA team couldn't, took hits from WW3 Black Adam, took on two Blockbusters at the same time, took on Shaggyman robot and still fighting with multiple fractures and so much blood loss that most other would be dead and so.

Yeah he does so poorly against bricks plus his nth metal doesn't offer any protection, or regrow limbs, or put him in a berserker mode that greatly increases all his stats.

I'm purely sure Hawkman doesn't stand a chance, and I haven't even talked about his flight and speed advantages or weapons.

lol poor Logan

Sarcasm Is lost on the guy who routinely fights bricks like hulk, gladiator, etc.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Exactly b/c its not like Hawkman has taken blows from Solomon Grundy, manage to hurt Despero when the JLA team couldn't, took hits from WW3 Black Adam, took on two Blockbusters at the same time, took on Shaggyman robot and still fighting with multiple fractures and so much blood loss that most other would be dead and so.

Yeah he does so poorly against bricks plus his nth metal doesn't offer any protection, or regrow limbs, or put him in a berserker mode that greatly increases all his stats.

I'm purely sure Hawkman doesn't stand a chance, and I haven't even talked about his flight and speed advantages or weapons.

lol poor Logan

The problem here is that you said that he was bleeding and many in this condition would have given up, or passed out. Wolverine stitched himself up as he used to get beaten. As of now he gets severely injured from falling 20 ft, back then when this thread was made, if he went to town cutting Hawkman up, that would have probably ended it, unless he had possession of the claw. This is a pretty poor time to bump this thread, as Wolverine would be killed if someone shot him in the eye with a bullet.

Even back when this thread was made i would have loved to see Wolverine's claws stretch a few hundred feet in the air to go to town on HM!

Well if we want to make it somewhat interesting current wolverine is actually a wendigo now

Originally posted by Supermutant
Exactly b/c its not like Hawkman has taken blows from Solomon Grundy, manage to hurt Despero when the JLA team couldn't, took hits from WW3 Black Adam, took on two Blockbusters at the same time, took on Shaggyman robot and still fighting with multiple fractures and so much blood loss that most other would be dead and so.

Yeah he does so poorly against bricks plus his nth metal doesn't offer any protection, or regrow limbs, or put him in a berserker mode that greatly increases all his stats.

I'm purely sure Hawkman doesn't stand a chance, and I haven't even talked about his flight and speed advantages or weapons.

lol poor Logan

Please cite more Hawkman feats. I don't care who wins the topic, I'm just interested in reading arguments from both sides.

This weapon would be effective.

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Originally posted by Stoic
The problem here is that you said that he was bleeding and many in this condition would have given up, or passed out. Wolverine stitched himself up as he used to get beaten. As of now he gets severely injured from falling 20 ft, back then when this thread was made, if he went to town cutting Hawkman up, that would have probably ended it, unless he had possession of the claw. This is a pretty poor time to bump this thread, as Wolverine would be killed if someone shot him in the eye with a bullet.

Of course I'm comparing Wolverine when he had a healing factor b/c current Logan would get curb stomp.

Hawkman takes massive punishment from Shaggyman android then resists being torn apart by Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, and Green Lantern androids all design by Pr. Ivo. Ivo states that they are having a hard time trying to put Hawkman down. Continues fighting Shaggyman when JLA arrives.

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Punches Blockbuster so hard that he almost goes into orbit.

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Is impaled through chest and heart, heals immediately.

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Explains some of the nth metal capabilities.

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Restores Hawkman's wings.

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Heals instantly from being shot in back by sniper (Pike).

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Fly speed is up to 500 mph

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Berserker Mode (full combat mode) Nth metal covers entire body and enhances stats. With one shot sends Blockbuster through cars, gets crushed by two cars w/o damage, and pounds Blockbuster through concrete.

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So this ends one of two ones, Logan gets koed after being punched into orbit or gets his head cut off from Hawkman's nth metal axe.