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It's Logan's claws vs Danny's Iron Fist.

The battle has waged on for what seems like hours. You barely have time to register the pain as razor Sharp claws open up a near perfect line of incisions across your left pectoral muscle. You think to yourself, a few inches deeper and he'd have severed my internal thoracic artery. But no sooner then the thought crosses your mind the damage begins to heal. Soon, not even a scar remains.

You regard your enemy with fear not born of cowardice, but of respect. Respect for the ruthless efficiency with which he is able to inflict his damage. He comes across as a savage, but he is in fact highly skilled. Perhaps even moreso then yourself. Suddenly, as if reading your very thoughts, he opens his mouth in a wide toothy grin displaying a mouthful of razor sharp teeth. The crazy sonavabitch thinks this is fun.

Slowly he begins to circle in, like a wolf stalking its prey. You prepare yourself. This is it, its all or nothing. You get deep into your best combative stance. Beads of sweat run down your face. A cool breeze blows against your skin as the sun goes down preparing to give way to the night. On a normal day, you'd be enjoying the atmosphere. But today, death stands 10 feet away from you. He looks on at you and suddenly his smile gives way to a scowl. He to begins to shift his stance as he too seems to sense that this is the coup de grace.

Your eyes lock onto his and his onto yours. The calm before the storm. Fear gives way to calmness. Calmness gives way to anger, anger gives way to pure unbridled rage. You both charge in for the kill. All or nothing...

Sabretooth has to go down.


So you get one shot, money on the line not holding back kill, cripple or KO. Which gets it done, Logan's claws or Danny's Iron Fist? Which is the more effective weapon? Which is the most efficient. Which is more deadly?

The claws

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The claws Not to put Sabes down in one attack no.

Just as an aside, Sabretooth is merely a template for the scenario. Please feel free to compare and contrast using whatever showings you like so long as they're related to combat.

The armor pen of Adamantium creates a more or less equalized damage output regardless of a character's durability, the net result is Wolverine's claws are just as effective on someone like Thor as they are on someone like Punishes. As the durability of the target increases, Wolverine's damage capabilities will stay relatively stable, Iron Fists will start high and decline gradually as the target of the attack's durability increases. On a graph Wolverine's claws would be a straight line across the middle, and the Iron Fist would be a diagonal line that starts at the top of the left side of the graph and declines to the lowest point of the right side, intersecting with Wolverine's line somewhere in the middle.

lol

Very H1ish...

Iron Fist.

You can close this now.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The armor pen of Adamantium creates a more or less equalized damage output regardless of a character's durability, the net result is Wolverine's claws are just as effective on someone like Thor as they are on someone like Punishes. As the durability of the target increases, Wolverine's damage capabilities will stay relatively stable, Iron Fists will start high and decline gradually as the target of the attack's durability increases. On a graph Wolverine's claws would be a straight line across the middle, and the Iron Fist would be a diagonal line that starts at the top of the left side of the graph and declines to the lowest point of the right side, intersecting with Wolverine's line somewhere in the middle. Posts like these are likely responsible for all evil in this world. Yes, it's that bad.

I'm sorry it got your tight Iron Fist underoos in a bunch, but it's a 100% accurate assessment.

No, it's a fanboy assessment.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm sorry it got your tight Iron Fist underoos in a bunch, but it's a 100% accurate assessment. It really isn't. And I can think of one clear example that even you can't counter in the slightest. Yes, I am that sure.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The armor pen of Adamantium creates a more or less equalized damage output regardless of a character's durability, the net result is Wolverine's claws are just as effective on someone like Thor as they are on someone like Punishes. As the durability of the target increases, Wolverine's damage capabilities will stay relatively stable

If you don't agree with this statement, you're an Iron Fist fanboy.

it's an interesting thread. who do most think thor would be more leary of allowing a single, undefended shot?

Judging by their fight, an "all out" Wolverine isn't able to do much damage to Thor....so he'd probably be more leary of the IF.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's an interesting thread. who do most think thor would be more leary of allowing a single, undefended shot? The guy who one shotted his clone.

certainly possible. what's the fist's greatest damage output to date? i'd say the helicarrier, pretty clearly, though the train was solid as well. how would thor deal with those level blows (undefended), vs how would he deal with a strike from logan? i think it's at least an interesting question.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
The guy who one shotted his clone.

huh, i'd forgotten about that.....

you didn't really make this much fun bran. how's a guy supposed to stir up sh!t with you around. sneer

Originally posted by leonidas
it's an interesting thread. who do most think thor would be more leary of allowing a single, undefended shot?

Has Wolverine ever actually tried gutting/skewering him, instead of slashing/surface damage?

Is his piercing resistance generally better than Namor's?

Originally posted by cdtm
Has Wolverine ever actually tried gutting/skewering him, instead of slashing/surface damage?

Is his piercing resistance generally better than Namor's?

They'll only write him gutting or stabbing villains, anti heroes or other people with insane healing factors. I'd be shocked if they had him straight up stab Thor in a vital spot.

Actually didn't he stab Spiderman during a training exercise or something? There goes my theory lol.

Originally posted by dmills
They'll only write him gutting or stabbing villains, anti heroes or other people with insane healing factors. I'd be shocked if they had him straight up stab Thor in a vital spot.

Actually didn't he stab Spiderman during a training exercise or something? There goes my theory lol. Or they'll write him causing mostly superficial damage to characters with great piercing durability (that nobody seems to give them credit for despite their feats) and directly attribute that to their piercing durability in plain English.

I mean... granted, we've never seen this happen on-panel... sneer

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or they'll write him causing mostly superficial damage to characters with great piercing durability (that nobody seems to give them credit for despite their feats) and directly attribute that to their piercing durability in plain English.

I mean... granted, we've never seen this happen on-panel... sneer

I see what you did there.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or they'll write him causing mostly superficial damage to characters with great piercing durability (that nobody seems to give them credit for despite their feats) and directly attribute that to their piercing durability in plain English.

I mean... granted, we've never seen this happen on-panel... sneer Reliable sources claim that durability doesn't matter against Wolverine. Wolverine will damage Thor just as bad as he would a human.
And also Iron Fist fanboys are bad.

So, I really don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or they'll write him causing mostly superficial damage to characters with great piercing durability (that nobody seems to give them credit for despite their feats) and directly attribute that to their piercing durability in plain English.

I mean... granted, we've never seen this happen on-panel... sneer

Now see, that's where you're wrong.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The armor pen of Adamantium creates a more or less equalized damage output regardless of a character's durability, the net result is Wolverine's claws are just as effective on someone like Thor as they are on someone like Punishes. As the durability of the target increases, Wolverine's damage capabilities will stay relatively stable, Iron Fists will start high and decline gradually as the target of the attack's durability increases. On a graph Wolverine's claws would be a straight line across the middle, and the Iron Fist would be a diagonal line that starts at the top of the left side of the graph and declines to the lowest point of the right side, intersecting with Wolverine's line somewhere in the middle.

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So, was this thread inspired by New Avengers 021, which I just read?

It wasn't Wolverine that took out Ragnarok. Like HHH said to Shawn Michaels, he couldn't get the job done.

I'm voting for the Fist.

Originally posted by cdtm
So, was this thread inspired by New Avengers 021, which I just read?
If it is thats kinda foolish.

Originally posted by cdtm

It wasn't Wolverine that took out Ragnarok. Like HHH said to Shawn Michaels, he couldn't get the job done.


Actaully there really no reason to assume he could not have gotten the job done sooner or later, he got BFR by Cage being thrown into Ragnarok.


It wasent simply Iron Fist who took out Ragnarok either. it was clearly the accumulation of damage that was done.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm voting for the Fist.

Depends on the character they are attacking. Each is better suited against different characters.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If it is thats kinda foolish.

Why?






Ragnarok was set to hit Logan with a big hammer shot. Cage saved him, not Ragnarok. And Logan looked in pretty bad shape, as Spidey noted, so I doubt he could have lasted much longer.




Yes, Wolverine and Cage got in their licks. But Ragnarok basically shrugged their attacks off, and didn't seem heavily injured. Wolverine even stabbed him in the throat, and it didn't seem to register, and after all of Logans stabs, Cage's attack didn't even slow him down.

You could argue Danny's finishing blow wouldn't have knocked Ragnarok out if he wasn't softened up first, but his attack was the most devastating. Just like Supermans attack on Earthman was impressive, despite the Legion getting in their shots first.

^^^ And that's clear as day.

Wolverine was fine. He was in a berserker rage, his uniform was torn and he was literally on fire... but none of that is a big deal, certainly nothing that indicates he was any where near on the verge of being incapacitated. He still had the wherewithal to engage an airborne target in melee combat and go shot for shot, without falling to earth... which is impressive. If Luke hadn't BFR'd Wolverine he could have very well finished Ragnarok off... but will never know.

Also Danny didn't one shot Clor. Ragnarok uses a lightening strike after getting hit, as seen from the perspective of the Dark Avengers, so there is some off panel combat we aren't privy too.

There is also the fact that he got slingshotted into charging Clor by Spider-man, which would substantial increase the damage quotient.

Originally posted by cdtm
Why?






Ragnarok was set to hit Logan with a big hammer shot. Cage saved him, not Ragnarok. And Logan looked in pretty bad shape, as Spidey noted, so I doubt he could have lasted much longer.




Yes, Wolverine and Cage got in their licks. But Ragnarok basically shrugged their attacks off, and didn't seem heavily injured. Wolverine even stabbed him in the throat, and it didn't seem to register, and after all of Logans stabs, Cage's attack didn't even slow him down.

You could argue Danny's finishing blow wouldn't have knocked Ragnarok out if he wasn't softened up first, but his attack was the most devastating. Just like Supermans attack on Earthman was impressive, despite the Legion getting in their shots first.

This

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was fine. He was in a berserker rage, his uniform was torn and he was literally on fire... but none of that is a big deal, certainly nothing that indicates he was any where near on the verge of being incapacitated. He still had the wherewithal to engage an airborne target in melee combat and go shot for shot, without falling to earth... which is impressive. If Luke hadn't BFR'd Wolverine he could have very well finished Ragnarok off... but will never know.

Also Danny didn't one shot Clor. Ragnarok uses a lightening strike after getting hit, as seen from the perspective of the Dark Avengers, so there is some off panel combat we aren't privy too.

There is also the fact that he got slingshotted into charging Clor by Spider-man, which would substantial increase the damage quotient.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was fine. He was in a berserker rage, his uniform was torn and he was literally on fire... but none of that is a big deal, certainly nothing that indicates he was any where near on the verge of being incapacitated. He still had the wherewithal to engage an airborne target in melee combat and go shot for shot, without falling to earth... which is impressive. If Luke hadn't BFR'd Wolverine he could have very well finished Ragnarok off... but will never know.

Also Danny didn't one shot Clor. Ragnarok uses a lightening strike after getting hit, as seen from the perspective of the Dark Avengers, so there is some off panel combat we aren't privy too.

There is also the fact that he got slingshotted into charging Clor by Spider-man, which would substantial increase the damage quotient. This is, quite frankly, stupid. It really just is.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is, quite frankly, stupid. It really just is.

What a scathing and thought provoking retort. On point again Dumb, touche!dur

But thanks for taking a break from jerking off to Iron Fist back issues long enough to contribute! You're a real special guy. We all think your great. Now you can get back to spanking it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is, quite frankly, stupid. It really just is. Originally posted by Mindset


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What a scathing and thought provoking retort. On point again Dumb, touche!dur

But thanks for taking a break from jerking off to Iron Fist back issues long enough to contribute! You're a real special guy. We all think your great. Now you can get back to spanking it. It really was stupid. And it's pretty obvious.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It really was stupid. And it's pretty obvious.

I'm sorry, maybe I should mimic your standard addlepated response?

"One time Iron Fist punched a train, and this other time he punched a helicarrier! He is the best ever!"

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzpm4sSCRp1qad7zlo1_250.gif

It's almost amusing that someone who spends the brunt of his time trying to discredit the overwhelming majority of Wolverine feats and coming up with flimsy reasons to ignore the hundreds of times Wolverine has gone to war with class 100 bricks... has no trouble gauging Iron Fist's power off of two minority examples. It's almost like you are biased douche-bag who is incapable of forming an impartial thought? But that can't be right... no wait, it is.

They only way Iron Fist stacks up to Wolverine is if you ignore the way Wolverine is portrayed 99% of the time in favor of the bottom of the barrel 1% where Ennis Punisher is parking steam rollers on his back, while at the same time you are also ignoring how Iron Fist is portrayed 99% in favor the top %1 of his feats. Unfortunately for us you have no problem doing that... because you are an assh@le.

Wolverine hasn't "gone to war" with hundreds of Thor/Hulk level bricks.....stop lying.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is, quite frankly, stupid. It really just is. Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What a scathing and thought provoking retort. On point again Dumb, touche!dur

But thanks for taking a break from jerking off to Iron Fist back issues long enough to contribute! You're a real special guy. We all think your great. Now you can get back to spanking it. Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine hasn't "gone to war" with hundreds of Thor/Hulk level bricks.....stop lying.

Awww yeah baby here we go!

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/sarahdance92810-1.gif

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine hasn't "gone to war" with hundreds of Thor/Hulk level bricks.....stop lying.

Anyone that can lift 100 tons or more is class 100. That is a fact. Iron Man, Colossus, Thing, all class 100. No one is going to hold your hand and babysit you because you have a hand book that tells you they aren't, and you are too stupid to employ some critical thinking. The Handbooks also say Caps' shield is a vibranium / adamantium hybrid... but that isn't true either. There is a reason we don't except handbook entries as empirical evidence...

Hint: It's because they are full of inaccuracies and outside of the bios have barely been updated since the 80s

If you're going to use the handbooks cl system, you don't get to promote people that the handbooks list as below cl 100.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're going to use the handbooks cl system, you don't get to promote people that the handbooks list as below cl 100.



We use the same class system for DC characters too.

Lets try and make this easy for you:

What does Class 100 mean?

It means the ability to lift 100 tons or more.

So ipso facto if a character has lifted 100 tons or more... then they are Class 100.

Done.

It's not experimental physics... it's not even algebra... it's really f@cking simple. Why don't you get it? Just get it. Fish-sticks sounds like fish dicks. Just get it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/3425318253_3695d8a1e4.jpg

Lifting over a hundred tons doesn't make you a Thor/Hulk level brick in my book. Not sure if you actually said that (Haven't read through the thread) but if you did, that shit is somewhat misleading.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lifting over a hundred tons doesn't make you a Thor/Hulk level brick in my book. Not sure if you actually said that (Haven't read through the thread) but if you did, that shit is somewhat misleading.

He's trying to make Wolverine's fight record sound more impressive than it really is.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lifting over a hundred tons doesn't make you a Thor/Hulk level brick in my book. Not sure if you actually said that (Haven't read through the thread) but if you did, that shit is somewhat misleading.

All he's saying is that Wolverine has had hundreds of fights with people who can lift 100+ tons. He doesn't mention Thor, he doesn't mention Hulk, he just says "class 100 bricks." To which Silent Master always replies "He hasn't had hundreds of fights with people like Hulk and Thor!" To which S-Rank replies "I never said he did. Reading comprehension ftw." Hope that clears it up.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm sorry, maybe I should mimic your standard addlepated response?

"One time Iron Fist punched a train, and this other time he punched a helicarrier! He is the best ever!"

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzpm4sSCRp1qad7zlo1_250.gif

It's almost amusing that someone who spends the brunt of his time trying to discredit the overwhelming majority of Wolverine feats and coming up with flimsy reasons to ignore the hundreds of times Wolverine has gone to war with class 100 bricks... has no trouble gauging Iron Fist's power off of two minority examples. It's almost like you are biased douche-bag who is incapable of forming an impartial thought? But that can't be right... no wait, it is.

They only way Iron Fist stacks up to Wolverine is if you ignore the way Wolverine is portrayed 99% of the time in favor of the bottom of the barrel 1% where Ennis Punisher is parking steam rollers on his back, while at the same time you are also ignoring how Iron Fist is portrayed 99% in favor the top %1 of his feats. Unfortunately for us you have no problem doing that... because you are an assh@le.
No need to get hostile here. Onesmartgo is certainly a douche, but you are getting angry just because....well nothing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lifting over a hundred tons doesn't make you a Thor/Hulk level brick in my book. Not sure if you actually said that (Haven't read through the thread) but if you did, that shit is somewhat misleading.

Naw he dident. That was Silent being his typical trolling moronic self. Here what srank actually said

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

It's almost amusing that someone who spends the brunt of his time trying to discredit the overwhelming majority of Wolverine feats and coming up with flimsy reasons to ignore the hundreds of times Wolverine has gone to war with class 100 bricks...




And here below is silent retard response to that statement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine hasn't "gone to war" with hundreds of Thor/Hulk level bricks.....stop lying.

Funny when someone makes up arguements to try and discredit someone. As usual silent fails


Originally posted by Silent Master
He's trying to make Wolverine's fight record sound more impressive than it really is.

No he dident, you were the one who was making shit up. As usual, your arguements are flimsy. You simply spout bullshit out that people never said in some sad attempt to discredit them. Honestly you are an utter joke.

Go skipp off with masterbruce and leave the debating to the grown ups.

Originally posted by Ize19
All he's saying is that Wolverine has had hundreds of fights with people who can lift 100+ tons. He doesn't mention Thor, he doesn't mention Hulk, he just says "class 100 bricks." To which Silent Master always replies "He hasn't had hundreds of fights with people like Hulk and Thor!" To which S-Rank replies "I never said he did. Reading comprehension ftw." Hope that clears it up.

Most people tend to think of Thor/Hulk/Superman when the term cl 100 is used, which is why srank uses the term instead if just saying mid-level brick. He's trying to make Wolverine's record sound more impressive than it really is.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Most people tend to think of Thor/Hulk/Superman when the term cl 100 is used, which is why srank uses the term instead if just saying mid-level brick. He's trying to make Wolverine's record sound more impressive than it really is.








Just keep on diggin that hole deeper and deeper. You are such a chump, it amazing.


By the way the term class 100 is used vastly more then mid level bricks, but keep on believing the bs your trying to sell.

I find it rather telling that the only people who disagree with my assessment are Wolverine fanboys.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I find it rather telling that the only people who disagree with my assessment are Wolverine fanboys.
keep on telling your self what ever lies you want to justify the fact you are utterly full of crap.




What does being a Wolverine fan have to do with calling you out on making bullshit statements about a poster? Oh that right absolutely nothing

Thank you for proving my point.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm sorry, maybe I should mimic your standard addlepated response?

"One time Iron Fist punched a train, and this other time he punched a helicarrier! He is the best ever!"

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzpm4sSCRp1qad7zlo1_250.gif

It's almost amusing that someone who spends the brunt of his time trying to discredit the overwhelming majority of Wolverine feats and coming up with flimsy reasons to ignore the hundreds of times Wolverine has gone to war with class 100 bricks... has no trouble gauging Iron Fist's power off of two minority examples. It's almost like you are biased douche-bag who is incapable of forming an impartial thought? But that can't be right... no wait, it is.

They only way Iron Fist stacks up to Wolverine is if you ignore the way Wolverine is portrayed 99% of the time in favor of the bottom of the barrel 1% where Ennis Punisher is parking steam rollers on his back, while at the same time you are also ignoring how Iron Fist is portrayed 99% in favor the top %1 of his feats. Unfortunately for us you have no problem doing that... because you are an assh@le. I wasn't inviting an incoherent rant.

What you suggested about the Ragnarok/New Avengers fight was stupid. And I don't need to wage in banter, diatribe or even expend any effort to reveal that: Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was fine. He was in a berserker rage, his uniform was torn and he was literally on fire... but none of that is a big deal, certainly nothing that indicates he was any where near on the verge of being incapacitated. He still had the wherewithal to engage an airborne target in melee combat and go shot for shot, without falling to earth... which is impressive. If Luke hadn't BFR'd Wolverine he could have very well finished Ragnarok off... but will never know.

Also Danny didn't one shot Clor. Ragnarok uses a lightening strike after getting hit, as seen from the perspective of the Dark Avengers, so there is some off panel combat we aren't privy too.

There is also the fact that he got slingshotted into charging Clor by Spider-man, which would substantial increase the damage quotient. Your post was stupid.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you for proving my point.

how? You are down right delusional


and name one person who has agreed with your post...............