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Ulik has his knuckle dusters and Piotr now has the power of cyttorak.

Who wins...?

still waiting to see what colossus can do

Ulik is not even class 100 officially...

Colossus easily.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Ulik is not even class 100 officially... why are u even referring to the handbook?

Ulik has beaten THOR in the past

Ulik has also punched an entire mountain down with a single strike and Thor stated Hook had enough power in his fist to destroy a planet.

Colossus crushes this tomato can.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Ulik is not even class 100 officially... He doesn't need to be. Colossus sucks.

That's why the writers had to give him the Juggernaut power.

Now, he still sucks, but when he whines, he has magic armor that makes him resemble a "cool character" whining.

But, since he is an X-character, I'm sure he will somehow use the power better than anybody, blah-blah, and beat all the top-tier guys, blah-blah, and end up ruling a "Hell dimension", yada, yada, yada.


Sorry. Please excuse me for a second...

"Cough-sucky-writers-cough-no-creativity-sniff-cough-Wolverine-stabbed-Surfer-in-the-back-cough-hack-ptooo"!

Hold on, not done, "sneeze-cough-Cannonball-beat-Gladiator-cough."

Sorry. Allergies are buggin' me.

Originally posted by carver9
Ulik has also punched an entire mountain down with a single strike and Thor stated Hook had enough power in his fist to destroy a planet. scans or issue numbers

Originally posted by h1a8
scans or issue numbers

Why? That's all you are going to do is discredit it.

Piotr has yet to do anything remotely impressive, and judging by the upcoming AvX teasers, he's going to get humiliated by Rulk. Trying to reverse project Classic Juggernaut feats onto him is about the only way people can justify backing him against people who'd kick his ass.

Kicking Kuurth's @ss isn't impressive?

well, let's see how he does the next couple of months... it's weird though, his opponents seem to be getting weaker. He faced kuurth 1st, his next opponent is Rulk, Followed by spidey then Thing. I wonder if he will end up facing hulk or thor when it's all said and done?

Outside of Hope only magik or colossus have the powerset to face thor amongst the x-men. Legion, Warlock and megan won't be there and Nate is depowered, well magik too actually.

I wonder if we will get to see his demon form anytime soon. Never saw Cain turn into anything that crazy...Spidey was able to slow down Cain, we will see what plot device he can use to stop Colossus.

Spidey actually subdued Cain before so this isn't so far fetched imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Why? That's all you are going to do is discredit it.

Not if it's legit. I have concede points more than anyone here. It's highly possible, BUT it must be legit and the context must be sound.

So scans or issues or it didn't happen.

Til then Colossus with Cyttorak enchantment wins 1000/10 and
Normal Colossus without Cyttorak wins 4/10.

tanarus is ulik

tanarus will lose to thor while piotr gives rulk a battle

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Kicking Kuurth's @ss isn't impressive?

He fought a depowered Kuurth. Who knows how good that Kuurth was compared to the one that still hard some of Cyttorak's support?

Besides that, he hardly looked impressive in that fight.

I wouldn't even call it a victory.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
He fought a depowered Kuurth. Who knows how good that Kuurth was compared to the one that still hard some of Cyttorak's support?

Besides that, he hardly looked impressive in that fight.

I wouldn't even call it a victory. How do we know Kuurth was depowered actually? You would have think he would have mentioned that here:

http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/303168933991553497

Originally posted by CosmicComet
He fought a depowered Kuurth. Who knows how good that Kuurth was compared to the one that still hard some of Cyttorak's support?

Besides that, he hardly looked impressive in that fight.

I wouldn't even call it a victory.

^ I have a feeling that Namor may be squaring off against Rulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ I have a feeling that Namor may be squaring off against Rulk. It's been confirmed in a solicit that Colossus is fighting Rulk.

Originally posted by nwg202
"The panel soon revealed that both Hulks – Red and Green – would appear in the series, and both would get a chance to throw down against the Colossus Juggernaut."
Where is this quote from?

I'm telling you, if Colossus ends up with some "super-peak" form of the Cyttorak power, just because he is an X-character, I am gonna be pissed.

According to all recent evidence involving "Juggernautdom", a mewling sissy, do-gooder like Piotr should not be dealing with high levels of the Cyttorak power.

I hope Cain kills him eventually.

LOL, stfu.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
It's been confirmed in a solicit that Colossus is fighting Rulk.

Where is this quote from?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37632

Yup. you're right spidey tends to do well against bricks. He could possibly BFR Colossus.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm telling you, if Colossus ends up with some "super-peak" form of the Cyttorak power, just because he is an X-character, I am gonna be pissed.

According to all recent evidence involving "Juggernautdom", a mewling sissy, do-gooder like Piotr should not be dealing with high levels of the Cyttorak power.

I hope Cain kills him eventually.


If he got some "super-peak" form of Cyttorak power, it'd be because Cyttorak was clearly pissed at Cain for allowing Serpent to possess him, and all the times he did mewling sissy, do-gooder stuff. And Cyttorak is clearly very petty and vindictive.

And stop trying to paint Colossus as a boyscout.

He's broken Riptide's neck for hurting Nightcrawler.

He nearly beat Pete Wisdom to death for dating Kitty.

He threatens to kill people all the time.

He's on a good team, but he's not just some shining example of goodness.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How do we know Kuurth was depowered actually? You would have think he would have mentioned that here:

http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/303168933991553497

Um?

It was pretty much stated in the comic?

That's why Magik and crew went to Cyttorak's dimension, to get him to weaken Cain by saying he's been unfaithful or some such.


And lol. Gillen is being inconsistent.

When Colossus admitted Kuurth was better than him physically and someone brought it up to him, Gillen said that Colossus was just showing his natural self-deprecating, 'low self-esteem' personality or some such. And now he's pretty much admitting that Kuurth was more powerful so he can justify that colossnaut and red hulk will be a good fight.

Huh. Figures that Red Hulk would firmly snap his jobbing streak by putting up a good fight against the most disappointing hype train in recent memory in comics

"OOOOH A legit class 100 (low at least), getting cyttorak's power up?? JUST IMAGINE!!!"

lol. what a crock that's been so far.

Originally posted by KingD19
If he got some "super-peak" form of Cyttorak power, it'd be because Cyttorak was clearly pissed at Cain for allowing Serpent to possess him, and all the times he did mewling sissy, do-gooder stuff. And Cyttorak is clearly very petty and vindictive.

And stop trying to paint Colossus as a boyscout.

He's broken Riptide's neck for hurting Nightcrawler.

He nearly beat Pete Wisdom to death for dating Kitty.

He threatens to kill people all the time.

He's on a good team, but he's not just some shining example of goodness. Piotr has been COMPLAINING and WHINING since he fought Kuurth. Tell me I'm wrong.

From the battle with Kuurth- Piotr thinking: "I am so super powerful now. It really stinks. I can do almost anything and all of this power is keeping Kuurth from killing me. I'm so sad. I also have the power of the Juggernaut added to my own, thanks to somebody at Marvel thinking that this latest ploy will bring in non-X-book readers. Shucks, I wish I could get a hug. I'm basically unkillable now. I wish my sister would come wipe away my tears."

Cain would have just been laughing and pounding, making Uncle Cy proud!


I mean, it's nice that he killed Riptide, and Pete Wisdom needed a beating anyway.

But, my mother and grandmother threaten to kill people all the time. Just for not washing dishes, or drinking out of a milk container. They don't get indestructible force-fields because of it. Well, my grandmother did, once, but that's another story.


Honestly, I bet I can predict the entire story line coming up:

Piotr finds that he has more Juggernaut power than anybody ever did and he can even manifest it in ways that it never did before.
Before long, he gets so powerful, it gets out of hand. He ends up beating EVERYBODY up (and possibly ruling a Hell dimension, like all the other X-men have, otherwise it wouldn't be fair).

We will find that he is able to do these things because he is either,
- mentally unstable and it is giving him the ability to suck up more power that anybody ever.
or
- he and his sister have some sort of characteristic that makes them uber-able to do mystical stuff and control mystical stuff, yada, yada, yada.

Whichever thing happens, Piotr will end up getting crazier and more powerful, until he absolutely MUST BE STOPPED.

Stop me when I'm getting warm...

He will probably even become a threat to Cyttorak himself, because, well, the X-books sell so well.

And, in the end, Cyttorak must get Cain to come help him out. And, even then, it will never be a clear cut victory for Cain and Piotr will probably be written as giving up the power voluntarily to save the world.

Blah, blah, blah. Hold on a second... bbbllleeeechhh!! Sorry, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Anyway, wait and see.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Um?

It was pretty much stated in the comic?

That's why Magik and crew went to Cyttorak's dimension, to get him to weaken Cain by saying he's been unfaithful or some such.


And lol. Gillen is being inconsistent.

When Colossus admitted Kuurth was better than him physically and someone brought it up to him, Gillen said that Colossus was just showing his natural self-deprecating, 'low self-esteem' personality or some such. And now he's pretty much admitting that Kuurth was more powerful so he can justify that colossnaut and red hulk will be a good fight.

Huh. Figures that Red Hulk would firmly snap his jobbing streak by putting up a good fight against the most disappointing hype train in recent memory in comics

"OOOOH A legit class 100 (low at least), getting cyttorak's power up?? JUST IMAGINE!!!"

lol. what a crock that's been so far. Ha!!! Reading my mind.

Classic Ulik should be able to break Piotr's shiny legs.

the ultimate warrior would break new piotr in two for being such a cry baby.

And the rest of them damn x-muties.

It is sad how much disrespect the writers have towards Colossus. From the Gem he seems to have gained only regeneration and increased momentum, whereas his physical strength and durability have remained pretty much at Colossus levels (at best).

Originally posted by KingD19
If he got some "super-peak" form of Cyttorak power, it'd be because Cyttorak was clearly pissed at Cain for allowing Serpent to possess him, and all the times he did mewling sissy, do-gooder stuff. And Cyttorak is clearly very petty and vindictive.

And stop trying to paint Colossus as a boyscout.

He's broken Riptide's neck for hurting Nightcrawler.

He nearly beat Pete Wisdom to death for dating Kitty.

He threatens to kill people all the time.

He's on a good team, but he's not just some shining example of goodness. He was going to kill Arcade once had Meggan stopped him. He also was going to kill Trevor Fitzroy also but he was stopped by somebody.(Don't recall) Colossus does have a violent temper when pushed. He even threatened to kill Mr. Sinister.

He is made of rage. lol

Actually Cain is the bully and braggart who loves showing off his power and uses it usually for petty crime. Colossus is a sensitive emo artist ( he does whine a lot) who has a good heart but is prone to berserker like rages when family or friends are in danger. He has wrecked Scott's office quite a number a times.

Who has killed more people? Peter or Cain? For a good guy peter has killed or maimed quite a few people ( proteus, ord, riptide, pete wisdom, etc...he took out quite a number of civilians in his battle with Kuurth.)

Cyttorak doesn't want "murder".

He wants destruction and infamy. Reckless use of his power.

Somebody that loves having that power. Not somebody that will be complaining about it the entire time.

Get bent Colossus!