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Validus
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Captain Marvel
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Silver Age Mangog
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Any of team one solos

Hulk farts. Match over.durhulk

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk farts. Match over.durhulk

I see Bada has infected you.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Any of team one solos

Even Silver Age Mangog?

I dunno if it's true, but I read somewhere that PC Validus once nearly crushed PC Superboy AND Mon-El to death.....by accident. He didn't even know they were there.

If this is true, what has SA Mangog done for you to think he could compete?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I dunno if it's true, but I read somewhere that PC Validus once nearly crushed PC Superboy AND Mon-El to death.....by accident. He didn't even know they were there.

If this is true, what has SA Mangog done for you to think he could compete?

The fact that Classic Odin (a bonafide galaxy buster) had to use plot device spell work, often with aid, to beat SA Mangog, and it wound up causing him to die or come extremely close to death at one time, too.

Physically, I don't think he was as strong as some of these PC characters best showings, but he amped off of physical violence and the emotion of hate, and was only beaten through plot device and the intervention of one of the most powerful skyfathers in comics. I don't see him being put down easily.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even Silver Age Mangog? he's a dc spam-bot these days. don't mind him

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's a dc spam-bot these days. don't mind him
Get off deez nutz bro

Juggernaut is a non factor. Trion would have been better. With him, team Marvel wins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The fact that Classic Odin (a bonafide galaxy buster) had to use plot device spell work, often with aid, to beat SA Mangog, and it wound up causing him to die or come extremely close to death at one time, too.

Physically, I don't think he was as strong as some of these PC characters best showings, but he amped off of physical violence and the emotion of hate, and was only beaten through plot device and the intervention of one of the most powerful skyfathers in comics. I don't see him being put down easily.

After learning that, I now do think anybody on the DC team can solo. They might not be able to KO this Mangog, but BFR wasn't ruled out as an option in the OP. It looks like WB Hulk is the only one who can POTENTIALLY be a threat to harm the DC side, and he can be killed accidentally.

Also, did Mangog show any great resistant to telepathic attack? Validus had potent mind blasts.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Get off deez nutz bro it just looks like hypocricy when you get mad at carver for saying the same shit

just sayin

Originally posted by Delta1938
After learning that, I now do think anybody on the DC team can solo. They might not be able to KO this Mangog, but BFR wasn't ruled out as an option in the OP. It looks like WB Hulk is the only one who can POTENTIALLY be a threat to harm the DC side, and he can be killed accidentally.

Also, did Mangog show any great resistant to telepathic attack? Validus had potent mind blasts.

Classic Odin had quite a few potent telepathy based feats under his belt, and really nothing he did outside of random plot device spells/rituals could beat Mangog. He hadn't displayed an overt telepathic resistance feat, but given that Odin was fully convinced that in a direct confrontation, Mangog was a universal threat and unstoppable even by his standards, it's open to debate whether or not such a route would have effected him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Classic Odin had quite a few potent telepathy based feats under his belt, and really nothing he did outside of random plot device spells/rituals could beat Mangog. He hadn't displayed an overt telepathic resistance feat, but given that Odin was fully convinced that in a direct confrontation, Mangog was a universal threat and unstoppable even by his standards, it's open to debate whether or not such a route would have effected him.

Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it just looks like hypocricy when you get mad at carver for saying the same shit

just sayin The difference is the shit he says is stupid and the shit I say is based off of years of reading comics.

No one on team 2 can beat anybody on team 1. Not for a majority anyway. Mangog is the only one that makes it s fight

Originally posted by Delta1938
Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.

Yeah, I can cite some feats now and look for actual scans later.

When Loki invaded modern day Earth, he managed to cast a spell on Thor that made him go bad and attack other heroes such as the Fantastic Four (in which he almost killed the Thing). After coming to his senses, he beat Loki, and Odin agreed to reverse the damage done and erase everyone's mind on Earth in doing so.

There was another instance where he took the subconscious mind of humanity and moved them to an alternate dimension.

Of course, the origin of how Thor came to Earth could be considered a telepathic feat for Odin as he removed Thor's memories and gave him the memories of a certain Donald Blake, which were in turn, based off of Keith Kincaid.

And just recently, Odin displayed telepathy in a psionic battle against Galactus.

omega needed a plot device as well.

marvel

how would they take out omega or invulnerable billy?

SA Mangog would be the hard factor on this fight.I'm wondering if this Juggernaut is Kuurth who had the power of the Worthy and Cytorrak?If so, he can also be a hard factor for the Marvel bricks as this is Juggernaut with Thor's powers.Thing(Angrir) took down Red Hulk and we all know regular Thing would be reduced to pebbles in a straight out fight with Red Hulk.Replace WWH with Abomination(amped by Chaos King) and this will be a brawl.Still the Marvel bricks could stalemate the other team at least.

Originally posted by Igniz
SA Mangog would be the hard factor on this fight.I'm wondering if this Juggernaut is Kuurth who had the power of the Worthy and Cytorrak?If so, he can also be a hard factor for the Marvel bricks as this is Juggernaut with Thor's powers.Thing(Angrir) took down Red Hulk and we all know regular Thing would be reduced to pebbles in a straight out fight with Red Hulk.Replace WWH with Abomination(amped by Chaos King) and this will be a brawl.Still the Marvel bricks could stalemate the other team at least.

You think Chaos King Abomination is more powerful than WBH?

Is this SA mangog?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg

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Color me un-impressed.

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The one you posted was actually modern age Mangog

Originally posted by carver9
You think Chaos King Abomination is more powerful than WBH?

Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is this SA mangog?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog31.jpg

Color me un-impressed.

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Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.

Originally posted by Igniz
Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.



Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.

Surviving a blast from Galactus is a nice ft but Savage Hulk and even Rulk has done this.

That's not enough imo.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The one you posted was actually modern age Mangog
What's the difference?
Originally posted by Igniz
Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.



Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.
Hey, that was a low blow. Even in the silver age, mangog had extended fight with thor. Validus regularly punked entire LOSH.

Originally posted by carver9
Surviving a blast from Galactus is a nice ft but Savage Hulk and even Rulk has done this.

That's not enough imo.

Well considering regular Ares is not in Savage Hulk's or Rulk's league.Ares is only capable of lifting 75 tons or so.His durability isn't great since Sentry ripped him in half.And yet his punches were having an effect on SuperGod Herc as if he was class 100 all of a sudden and then surviving a blast from Galactus.Regular Ares wouldn't be able to do any of this.So CK provided a very massive amp.No doubt Abomination also received a massive Amp.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's the difference?

Hey, that was a low blow. Even in the silver age, mangog had extended fight with thor. Validus regularly punked entire LOSH.

Sorry.Didn't mean to low blow.And SA Mangog would probably do what Validus did as well.Odin died in the 2nd rampage by robbing SA Mangog of his power source.Do you believe the entire LOSH is = to Odin(who was stopping time and punking Skyfather levels such as Surtur).

This is all good and fine but how would they beat captain marvel? This guy was harnessing essentialy the power of big bang itself (sorta).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Pre crisis feats

Captain marvel vs Invincible Man
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Originally posted by abhilegend
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Originally posted by Igniz
Sorry.Didn't mean to low blow.And SA Mangog would probably do what Validus did as well.Odin died in the 2nd rampage by robbing SA Mangog of his power source.Do you believe the entire LOSH is = to Odin(who was stopping time and punking Skyfather levels such as Surtur).
Based on? A single high herald has multiple extended fights with mangog while validus didn't even felt blows from several trans or higher level beings like superboy or Mon-el. Wasn't odin vastly weakened when mangog rampaged in asgard once and second time was in odinsleep? I remember odin dispersing mangog with a simple spell.

Originally posted by abhilegend


And henceforth I said stalemate if the Juggernaut in the picture was Kuurth with the power of Cytorrak and SA Mangog.The best the DC side could do is BFR.But I don't know if that is even possible.It took 3 Asgardians that included Thor to BFR current Mangog.So I'm guessing it would take more to BFR SA Mangog.The Worthies according to Modok's scans stated that the Worthies have powers similar to Thor when he scanned Thing(Angrir).And Kuurth before he was excomminicated by Cyttorak would have been amped to ridiculous levels.He probably possess teleportation.WBH would probably annoy one of the members in DC's side.But that's the only thing he could probably do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on? A single high herald has multiple extended fights with mangog while validus didn't even felt blows from several trans or higher level beings like superboy or Mon-el. Wasn't odin vastly weakened when mangog rampaged in asgard once and second time was in odinsleep? I remember odin dispersing mangog with a simple spell.

The 1st rampage was Odin in his Odin sleep.Odin was able to dispell SA Mangog by resurrecting the race that birth him.The 2nd rampage, Odin needed the wells of Memer(I think?) and he had to teleport Asgard if I remember correctly.This is were Odin robbed SA Mangog of his power source.And I also remember in the 2nd rampage SA Mangog mentioning he becomes Stronger with every blow that he receives from his opponents.He feeds off of fear,hatred, and frustration.

Originally posted by Igniz
And henceforth I said stalemate if the Juggernaut in the picture was Kuurth with the power of Cytorrak and SA Mangog.The best the DC side could do is BFR.But I don't know if that is even possible.It took 3 Asgardians that included Thor to BFR current Mangog.So I'm guessing it would take more to BFR SA Mangog.The Worthies according to Modok's scans stated that the Worthies have powers similar to Thor when he scanned Thing(Angrir).And Kuurth before he was excomminicated by Cyttorak would have been amped to ridiculous levels.He probably possess teleportation.WBH would probably annoy one of the members in DC's side.But that's the only thing he could probably do.
Cap can easily BFR them in time stream or a different dimension. He was able to time travel with the help of rock of eternity which exists in all time and space simultaneously. You aren't feeling the difference between a pre-crisis kryptonian and an asgardian including thor. Validus went toe to toe with a sun eater which was destroying galaxies and was able to drive it off.

Originally posted by Igniz
The 1st rampage was Odin in his Odin sleep.Odin was able to dispell SA Mangog by resurrecting the race that birth him.The 2nd rampage, Odin needed the wells of Memer(I think?) and he had to teleport Asgard if I remember correctly.This is were Odin robbed SA Mangog of his power source.And I also remember in the 2nd rampage SA Mangog mentioning he becomes Stronger with every blow that he receives from his opponents.He feeds off of fear,hatred, and frustration.
So does he have any physical fight with odin or just statements that he is a threat to him? Doesn't everything in asgard a part of odinpower, I recall people arguing it in a recent thread? Odin was weakened in the second rampage IIRC. I've to check again.

Well I would think of it like this: Mangog was formed from the hate of every being in an entire galaxy.

Omega was formed from the hate of every being in the entire universe.

There are over 100 billion galaxies in the universe...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap can easily BFR them in time stream or a different dimension. He was able to time travel with the help of rock of eternity which exists in all time and space simultaneously. You aren't feeling the difference between a pre-crisis kryptonian and an asgardian including thor. Validus went toe to toe with a sun eater which was destroying galaxies and was able to drive it off.

Odin was also busting Galaxies and even owned a Galaxy buster like Surtur.Yet he died just trying to rob SA Mangog of his power source.I was even ask at one time if SA Mangog is skyfather level.So I gues this would put SA Mangog and PC Validus being equal since they have their fair share of fighting Galaxy busters.Is the Rock of Eternity allowed in this fight?If so, then BFR it is then.

Originally posted by Igniz
Odin was also busting Galaxies and even owned a Galaxy buster like Surtur.Yet he died just trying to rob SA Mangog of his power source.I was even ask at one time if SA Mangog is skyfather level.So I gues this would put SA Mangog and PC Validus being equal since they have their fair share of fighting Galaxy busters.Is the Rock of Eternity allowed in this fight?If so, then BFR it is then.
No, it doesn't. One was a physical fight and the other was a magical fight which has no bear on this fight. Had odin actually engaged mangog in a physical fight where he was busting galaxies, you'd have a point? Again what's best physical feat for mangog? It exists in all time and space, across all realities.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.

Odin was able to get into Galactus's head recently, in Mighty Thor #4, I believe.

Originally posted by abhilegend


WOW! When did Adam tank a universal blast?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
WOW! When did Adam tank a universal blast?
What?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What?

I guess I shouldn't have listened to Colossus. The poster who's a big Adam fan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is this SA mangog?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg

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Color me un-impressed.

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Mistaking Silver Age with Modern Age?

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mistaking Silver Age with Modern Age?

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You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you are unworthy! I cast you out!

I thought they were the same being.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I guess I shouldn't have listened to Colossus. The poster who's a big Adam fan.
You shouldn't listen to trolls.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You shouldn't listen to trolls.

Oh, he said universal busting power. He probably meant the scans about the guy chaneling the big bang. Right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't. One was a physical fight and the other was a magical fight which has no bear on this fight. Had odin actually engaged mangog in a physical fight where he was busting galaxies, you'd have a point? Again what's best physical feat for mangog? It exists in all time and space, across all realities.

Wait!Are you saying Physical>Magic?

The point I made was Odin is raw Magical Power.Odin busting Galaxies because of Magic shows he has Raw Magical Power.Odin needing the wells to Rob SA Mangog of his Power Source shows that his raw magical power wasn't enough to do the job.And the fact that he died afterwards shows how much raw magical power is needed to Rob SA Mangog of his power source.And when SA Mangog was robbed of said power source, he started weakening and shrinking Physically until he disappeared after Thor wailed on him.It just shows you that it takes more than Physical Force to beat SA Mangog.

I already gave my assessment that team DC wins via BFR.Stalemate if this fight was SA Mangog and Kuurth(powered by Cytorrak).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, I can cite some feats now and look for actual scans later.

When Loki invaded modern day Earth, he managed to cast a spell on Thor that made him go bad and attack other heroes such as the Fantastic Four (in which he almost killed the Thing). After coming to his senses, he beat Loki, and Odin agreed to reverse the damage done and erase everyone's mind on Earth in doing so.

There was another instance where he took the subconscious mind of humanity and moved them to an alternate dimension.

Of course, the origin of how Thor came to Earth could be considered a telepathic feat for Odin as he removed Thor's memories and gave him the memories of a certain Donald Blake, which were in turn, based off of Keith Kincaid.

And just recently, Odin displayed telepathy in a psionic battle against Galactus.

Thanks. Find scans yet? But I'm a little unclear on this one.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There was another instance where he took the subconscious mind of humanity and moved them to an alternate dimension.

What actually happened there?

Originally posted by Igniz
Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.

So, why exactly is modern Mangog less powerful than Silver Age? Did that thing Odin did you talk about later effect him permanently, or did he just become less powerful with no explanation?

Originally posted by Igniz
Sorry.Didn't mean to low blow.And SA Mangog would probably do what Validus did as well.Odin died in the 2nd rampage by robbing SA Mangog of his power source.Do you believe the entire LOSH is = to Odin(who was stopping time and punking Skyfather levels such as Surtur).

So what did SA Mangog actually show, strength-wise? Someone, I think it was Jake, said that the Marvel side doesn't really have the strength the DC side has.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is all good and fine but how would they beat captain marvel? This guy was harnessing essentialy the power of big bang itself (sorta).
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Pre-crisis/?action=view&current=WorldsFinest257-54.jpg



"Atomic Punch?" PC Captain Marvel channeled Dan Henderson?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHHX0YboWTM

Originally posted by Igniz
And henceforth I said stalemate if the Juggernaut in the picture was Kuurth with the power of Cytorrak and SA Mangog.The best the DC side could do is BFR.But I don't know if that is even possible.It took 3 Asgardians that included Thor to BFR current Mangog.So I'm guessing it would take more to BFR SA Mangog.The Worthies according to Modok's scans stated that the Worthies have powers similar to Thor when he scanned Thing(Angrir).And Kuurth before he was excomminicated by Cyttorak would have been amped to ridiculous levels.He probably possess teleportation.WBH would probably annoy one of the members in DC's side.But that's the only thing he could probably do.

You DO realize that PC Superboy had towed an entire galaxy under his own power, right? And that PC Mon-El was actually even stronger/more durable(I think), right? Well, PC Captain Marvel should be about as powerful as PC Superman, and I mentioned what he did as Superboy. I do know PC Captain Marvel was more powerful than Earth-2 Superman, who could do this.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view&current=superman58_pg46.jpg

And Validus was so physically powerful he was unfazed by PC Mon-El and Superboy's blows, and you saw abhi's scans. I believe Omega was even more powerful than Validus. I'm thinking even in your argument, they're going to lose. Anybody they can't KO, they can BFR.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You DO realize that PC Superboy had towed an entire galaxy under his own power, right? And that PC Mon-El was actually even stronger/more durable(I think), right? Well, PC Captain Marvel should be about as powerful as PC Superman, and I mentioned what he did as Superboy. I do know PC Captain Marvel was more powerful than Earth-2 Superman, who could do this.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/?action=view&current=superman58_pg46.jpg

And Validus was so physically powerful he was unfazed by PC Mon-El and Superboy's blows, and you saw abhi's scans. I believe Omega was even more powerful than Validus. I'm thinking even in your argument, they're going to lose. Anybody they can't KO, they can BFR.

Physical strength doesn't always prevail against Magical Nature.I remember PC Superman fighting an Abominable Snowman.Every time he punched the Abominable Snowman, Superman's fist freeazes on contact.This is were his towing a Galaxy strength feat became useless due to the Magical Nature of the Abominable Snowman.And SA Mangog's power source is Magical in nature.There was even talk that SA Mangog could be a minor abstract created by hate.SA Mangog already said it himself.He becomes Stronger and more Powerful from the blows he takes.As for the difference in power between SA Mangog and Modern Mangog.The Mangog in that arc was following orders from a Thanosi.And we all know Odin is >> to Thanos.Hence I can't imagine SA Mangog taking orders from Thanos or a Thanosi.And SA Mangog did what Thanos wasn't able to do to Odin.

Again I gave an assessment that DC side win through BFR.

Originally posted by Igniz
Physical strength doesn't always prevail against Magical Nature.I remember PC Superman fighting an Abominable Snowman.Every time he punched the Abominable Snowman, Superman's fist freeazes on contact.This is were his towing a Galaxy strength feat became useless due to the Magical Nature of the Abominable Snowman.And SA Mangog's power source is Magical in nature.There was even talk that SA Mangog could be a minor abstract created by hate.SA Mangog already said it himself.He becomes Stronger and more Powerful from the blows he takes.As for the difference in power between SA Mangog and Modern Mangog.The Mangog in that arc was following orders from a Thanosi.And we all know Odin is >> to Thanos.Hence I can't imagine SA Mangog taking orders from Thanos or a Thanosi.And SA Mangog did what Thanos wasn't able to do to Odin.

Again I gave an assessment that DC side win through BFR. To be fair your using an example of a character with a very particular weakness against magical effects. Marvel has no such issue.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mistaking Silver Age with Modern Age?

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Originally posted by abhilegend

I thought they were the same being. you should get further punishment for posting that irrelevant PC bull

Odin also used tp to save Thor in the Blood and Thunder arc

Omega solos

Originally posted by Igniz
Physical strength doesn't always prevail against Magical Nature.I remember PC Superman fighting an Abominable Snowman.Every time he punched the Abominable Snowman, Superman's fist freeazes on contact.This is were his towing a Galaxy strength feat became useless due to the Magical Nature of the Abominable Snowman.

This would be a valid argument if A: You can prove that Superman was trying to BFR that mystical Yeti, and B: Captain Marvel wasn't powered by magick thus likely making the Yeti argument irrelevant. Also, it likely wouldn't apply to either Validus or Omega.

Originally posted by Igniz
And SA Mangog's power source is Magical in nature.There was even talk that SA Mangog could be a minor abstract created by hate.SA Mangog already said it himself.He becomes Stronger and more Powerful from the blows he takes.

So, why exactly would this prevent him from being BFRed by physical force? Did his magick actually prevent this from happening? And it's been pointed-out before, Omega was fueled by the hatred of the entire UNIVERSE.

Originally posted by Igniz
As for the difference in power between SA Mangog and Modern Mangog.The Mangog in that arc was following orders from a Thanosi.And we all know Odin is >> to Thanos.Hence I can't imagine SA Mangog taking orders from Thanos or a Thanosi.And SA Mangog did what Thanos wasn't able to do to Odin.

No, my question wasn't what's the difference between SA and Modern Mangog. My question is WHY is there a difference. Was there an actual storyline that officially depowered Mangog, or did he just end-up as less powerful without explanation?

Originally posted by Igniz
Again I gave an assessment that DC side win through BFR.

But your arguments against them simply BFRing him via physical force don't hold water unless you can address and counter the points I made above.