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Superman
Superboy (Conner)
Supergirl

vs

Mar-Vel
Genis-Vel
Phylla-Vel

Genis solos

El wins.

Marv can hang for a bit, Phylla gets destroyed

Problem with team Supes is that they all have very incapacitating weaknesses that Genis could easily exploit.

Originally posted by Galan007
Problem with team Supes is that they all have very incapacitating weaknesses that Genis could easily exploit. At once though? as imo it would quickly become a 3 on 1 scenerio

Transmutation of the battlefield into kryptonite, and/or red sun radiation should suffice.

Originally posted by Galan007
Transmutation of the battlefield into kryptonite, and/or red sun radiation should suffice.

Cosmic awareness? Really? I expected better from you.

Genis has omniversal awareness. Admittedly, it'd be kinda hard to slip anything by him.

Trust me, I don't like it. ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
Genis has omniversal awareness. Admittedly, it'd be kinda hard to slip anything by him.

Trust me, I don't like it. ermm

The only one that seemed to me to have that was Insane. At least, had it and knew how to use it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only one that seemed to me to have that was Insane. At least, had it and knew how to use it. Cosmic awareness is what made Genis insane in the first place--he couldn't handle it.

When Genis evolved into Photon, he gained full control over his CA:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/11433862_15-OmniversalTelepath.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Cosmic awareness is what made Genis insane in the first place--he couldn't handle it.

When Genis evolved into Photon, he gained full control over his CA:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/11433862_15-OmniversalTelepath.jpg

That wasn't the impression I got from it, tbh.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?

His ability to use his CA just seemed, I dunno, borked, to me. We're both talking about Thunderbolts, right?

Thanos win

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos win Hahahaha! Leave it to a Thanos fan

Superman has fought it with a planet destroying spaceship composed of kryptonite. If we're going to CA route, how fast is genis?

Genis solos

phyla dies because she is an embarrassment.

Good enough!http://www.infoocean.info/avatar4.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
His ability to use his CA just seemed, I dunno, borked, to me. We're both talking about Thunderbolts, right? Yeah, he used it quite a few times during Thunderbolts... To pretty extreme degrees, in fact. Owning Purple Man (amped by Overmind) comes to mind.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If we're going to CA route, how fast is genis? He can see things happen before they happen, so he's pretty 'fast' in that sense.

But if you're trying to say that Superman would just "wtfspeedblitz1111!!!1" Genis in the first picosecond of the battle as though it were an 'in character' tactic for Supes, you'd be hard-pressed to prove he could incapacitate Genis before Genis mindraped him, BFR'd him, or exploited one of his weaknesses.

I'm not opposed to the idea of Supes beating him, but Genis is just one of those hax characters that're hard to make a case against--especially with less-versatile characters.

Don't argue against Galan when it comes to energy manipulators

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, he used it quite a few times during Thunderbolts... To pretty extreme degrees, in fact. Owning Purple Man (amped by Overmind) comes to mind.

He can see things happen before they happen, so he's pretty 'fast' in that sense.

But if you're trying to say that Superman would just "wtfspeedblitz1111!!!1" Genis in the first picosecond of the battle as though it were an 'in character' tactic for Supes, you'd be hard-pressed to prove he could incapacitate Genis before Genis mindraped him, BFR'd him, or exploited one of his weaknesses.

I'm not opposed to the idea of Supes beating him, but Genis is just one of those hax characters that're hard to make a case against--especially with less-versatile characters.
You try that everytime zoom or flash are in the thread though.uhuh
I'm not trying to say that superman wins here but to say that he's just going to win using cosmic awareness to create something which isn't even insta-win against superman is a bit of stretch.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman takes the destruction of krypton point blank while weakened. AOS 461.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p14.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p17.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p18.jpg

Again how knowing something previously is going to help him when he doesn't have the reflexes to react on it. Just a remainder how fast superman is

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_NanosecondInteraction1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_NanosecondInteraction2.jpg

You want to argue that genis is going to use his CA in a way he's never done before, cool. Don't balk up at the idea of superman using his speed in a manner he's done countless times.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You try that everytime zoom or flash are in the thread though I only argue what they HAVE done on panel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not trying to say that superman wins here but to say that he's just going to win using cosmic awareness to create something which isn't even insta-win against superman is a bit of stretch.



Again how knowing something previously is going to help him when he doesn't have the reflexes to react on it. Just a remainder how fast superman is

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_NanosecondInteraction1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_NanosecondInteraction2.jpg

You want to argue that genis is going to use his CA in a way he's never done before, cool. Don't balk up at the idea of superman using his speed in a manner he's done countless times. Scans from the 80's? Nice. Anyway, if you're going to throw a hissy-fit over it, I won't argue weakness exploitation (even though it would be WELL within Genis' ability.)

Mindrape and BFR, however, are tactics Genis has used on panel against opponents. Multiple times. Either of those would be enough here. Happy?

Originally posted by Galan007
I only argue what they HAVE done on panel.

Scans from the 80's? Nice. Anyway, if you're going to throw a hissy-fit over it, I won't argue weakness exploitation (even though it would be WELL within Genis' ability.)

Mindrape and BFR, however, are tactics Genis has used on panel against opponents. Multiple times. Either of those would be enough here. Happy?
Action comics 642. I'm not throwing a hissy-fit. my argument wasn't over who wins anyway. I only argue about what happens on panel too.

Like I said, weakness exploitation isn't the only option Genis has--it was just the first that came to mind.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like I said, weakness exploitation isn't the only option Genis has--it was just the first that came to mind.
He has to work for it though.uhuh

If it makes you feel better.

Originally posted by Galan007
If it makes you feel better.
Whatever you say jerk-face.

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Originally posted by Galan007
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