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Who could beat the combination of Harald Jaekelson and Flash? Nobody above mid-tier skyfather.

The Flashernaut could

Dr. Strange, and Dr. Fate?

King Thor could do it. No prep needed.

Magik with prep (she needs prep to offset Flash's speed advantage). She'd own Harold with her Soul Sword.

BL Kal-L could do it. Flash would be brutalized and then Harold would eat horrific punishment.

Here is the thing about Juggernat Harald is immune too or extremely immune to magic so would that hinder Juggs powers?

You'd have to have access to a level of magic higher than the spell/curse that powered him. So RK Thor, King Thor, Odin. People like that.

Originally posted by golem370
Here is the thing about Juggernat Harald is immune too or extremely immune to magic so would that hinder Juggs powers?

That would actually help the Juggernaut power out, as he is vulnerable to outside sources of sufficiently powerful magic. It would basically take away a big weakness of his.

Originally posted by KingD19
You'd have to have access to a level of magic higher than the spell/curse that powered him. So RK Thor, King Thor, Odin. People like that.

Last time I checked, a human wizard cast the spell no? He wasn't even the Sorcerer Supreme.

King Thor is above mid-tier skyfaher right?

Originally posted by golem370
King Thor is above mid-tier skyfaher right?

Hell no. I consider him low skyfather. He's no Odin.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hell no. I consider him low skyfather. He's no Odin.


He has the power but not the exp. correct?

Originally posted by Stoic
He has the power but not the exp. correct?

Yeah. Odin seemed infinitely more impressive than King Thor.

Originally posted by zopzop
Last time I checked, a human wizard cast the spell no? He wasn't even the Sorcerer Supreme.

A human cast the spell, but he was using powerful rune magic powered by blood. He was supposed to slit his hand a little bit, but he got an arrow to the neck while he was casting the spell and he bled out on the rune stone. That boosted the spell like, by an infinite amount. It made Harald and even his low level flunkies more powerful than Thor.

Johnny Sorrow

Iron Fist

Reed Richards with prep.

Genis + Dr. Doom.

Originally posted by zopzop
Last time I checked, a human wizard cast the spell no? He wasn't even the Sorcerer Supreme.

Yes, but the Sorcerer Supreme himself couldn't just undo the spell on his own, either.