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Who takes this and why ?

Mexy? Is that like a Mexican Mxyzptlk?

^^ im not sure tbh, the one in DC ..

LT

Depends what universe they are in.

LT easily

I want tacos now

Lt in a stomp.

Originally posted by Endless Mike Mexy? Is that like a Mexican Mxyzptlk?

makes sense.

i cooking tacos

Originally posted by guy222
i cooking tacos

I have never liked tacos.

why eternal friend

Originally posted by guy222
why eternal friend I just never liked the taste. I can do a soft taco if I had to but the hard shell is unacceptable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just never liked the taste. I can do a soft taco if I had to but the hard shell is unacceptable. Ya, I'm not the biggest fan of hard taco shells either. Everything falls out when you're eating and when you set it down

And those stand up tacos are way ****ing harder too

I love how this turned into a thread about tacos

well its been debated before

dc screams for mxy

marvel for lt

kinda silly to me

but as lt's number fan lt wins

and tacos my friends hard shell chicken tacos the best

tacos are the best. carnitas ftw.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
tacos are the best. carnitas ftw. I'm stronger than you are.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just never liked the taste. I can do a soft taco if I had to but the hard shell is unacceptable.

If it's WF Mxy, then nothing short of pre retcon Beyonder is giving him a fight and he stomps the LT.

If it's anything less than WF Mxy, LT stomps.

I f*cking love tacos

yes

Originally posted by zopzop
If it's WF Mxy, then nothing short of pre retcon Beyonder is giving him a fight and he stomps the LT.

If it's anything less than WF Mxy, LT stomps.

he's not defeating lt

Can LT summon Squirrel Girl to beat Mxy?

Yep, Mexy snaps his fingers and turns LT into mister potatohead. SG shows up and kicks "evil, evil little man" Mexy back to DcU/5D-Mexico wherever he is from.

Originally posted by zopzop If it's WF Mxy, then nothing short of pre retcon Beyonder is giving him a fight and he stomps the LT. If it's anything less than WF Mxy, LT stomps.

you have a very high opinion on the little imp.

Originally posted by Existere I f*cking love tacos

mexican food for life! actually its a 3 way tie between japanese and itallian.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
mexican food for life! actually its a 3 way tie between japanese and itallian. if sushi wasn't so dangerous or unhealthy It win.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
you have a very high opinion on the little imp.

WF Mxy has the greatest display of power/pwnage in comic book history. It wouldn't even be a contest. It would be like Thanos w/HotU vs LT and crew, a stomp.

Any other version of Mxy would lose to the LT though.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
mexican food for life! actually its a 3 way tie between japanese and itallian.

fish ftw

Originally posted by zopzop
WF Mxy has the greatest display of power/pwnage in comic book history. It wouldn't even be a contest. It would be like Thanos w/HotU vs LT and crew, a stomp.

Any other version of Mxy would lose to the LT though.

I agree. Out of all the cosmics, Mxy has some of the best feats, period.

Originally posted by guy222
fish ftw

ya like, fish? Fish can be dangerous.

Originally posted by guy222
fish ftw Salmon

WF Mxy wins but isn't WF Mxy, regular Mxy who is just fooling around more "seriously"?

LT wins.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Salmon Tuna fish straight out the can.

Originally posted by zopzop
WF Mxy has the greatest display of power/pwnage in comic book history. It wouldn't even be a contest. It would be like Thanos w/HotU vs LT and crew, a stomp.

Any other version of Mxy would lose to the LT though. I agree.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
ya like, fish? Fish can be dangerous.

its healthy

mackerel, catfish and seabass

it does emit lots of uric acid, i just drink lots of water

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Salmon

its good

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tuna fish straight out the can.

barracuda is great

Originally posted by guy222
barracuda is great I don't think I have ever heard that. I like salmon, flounder, tilapia, etc. Fish is pretty good.

Fish>>tacos.

Despite how good his showing was, LT is still the right hand man of Marvel God, aka The One Above All, aka Jack Kirby.

Does that mean Mxy is somewhere near The Presence? The Voice/Source/Hand?

Originally posted by KingD19
Despite how good his showing was, LT is still the right hand man of Marvel God, aka The One Above All, aka Jack Kirby.

Does that mean Mxy is somewhere near The Presence? The Voice/Source/Hand? The showing for Mxy happened in an elseworlds book so it is irrelevant anyway.

LT wins. stoned

Originally posted by quanchi112
The showing for Mxy happened in an elseworlds book so it is irrelevant anyway.

Normally, you'd be correct, but Mxy's appearances in comics are all canon for him.

Still, does that put Mxy on a level of God's right hand? Whose shown to be far more powerful and competent than Spectre.

Personally, I don't think Mxy is "second only to God/Presence" or anything like that. Granted said feat in World's Funnest was incredibly over the top and powerful, but I'd argue given the status of other beings in the DCU, they would be able to perform the same thing. Of course, it being an Elseworld (though still canon for the character Mxy) gives some leeway in that they're able to destroy the DC Omniverse.

Ultimately, I would say LT beats Mxy (as would other phenomenally powerful beings in the DCU close to LT in power/status), but Mxy does have the single best feat under his belt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think I have ever heard that. I like salmon, flounder, tilapia, etc. Fish is pretty good.

Fish>>tacos.

its really good

cod also great

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Personally, I don't think Mxy is "second only to God/Presence" or anything like that. Granted said feat in World's Funnest was incredibly over the top and powerful, but I'd argue given the status of other beings in the DCU, they would be able to perform the same thing. Of course, it being an Elseworld (though still canon for the character Mxy) gives some leeway in that they're able to destroy the DC Omniverse.

Ultimately, I would say LT beats Mxy (as would other phenomenally powerful beings in the DCU close to LT in power/status), but Mxy does have the single best feat under his belt.

good point

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Personally, I don't think Mxy is "second only to God/Presence" or anything like that. Granted said feat in World's Funnest was incredibly over the top and powerful, but I'd argue given the status of other beings in the DCU, they would be able to perform the same thing. Of course, it being an Elseworld (though still canon for the character Mxy) gives some leeway in that they're able to destroy the DC Omniverse.

Ultimately, I would say LT beats Mxy (as would other phenomenally powerful beings in the DCU close to LT in power/status), but Mxy does have the single best feat under his belt.

I won't deny he has the best feat, but the implied power LT has gives him odds over the Imp.

Originally posted by KingD19
I won't deny he has the best feat, but the implied power LT has gives him odds over the Imp.

Pretty much.

I mean, I wouldn't put Mxy over people like Lucifer or Michael or a sufficiently backed Spectre just to name a few.

TOAA>LT>Mxy yes

Presence whoever that is now>Mxy

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Normally, you'd be correct, but Mxy's appearances in comics are all canon for him. Based on what ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ?

Based on him recalling Elseworld events and being able to jump into them whenever he likes. No more different than LT's appearances in What-Ifs being canon for him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on him recalling Elseworld events and being able to jump into them whenever he likes. No more different than LT's appearances in What-Ifs being canon for him. He's just a screwy character like Lobo. If every appearance is canon then we also need to factor in the Gog oneshot and the Superman Prime/Annataz depowering.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's just a screwy character like Lobo. If every appearance is canon then we also need to factor in the Gog oneshot and the Superman Prime/Annataz depowering.

The Gog thing was valid, imo. Just like any character, Mxy has his highs and lows, and World's Funnest is undoubtedly his highest feat ever (easily the highest feat in the history of feats). The Gog thing makes sense to me simply because his staff was borrowing from multiple sources of power. Add that to the fact that Mxy simply doesn't operate on that scale of power regularly and there really shouldn't any big deal about it. It's canon, sure, but also an extremely high end feat that, imo, doesn't portray Mxy as he's commonly portrayed power wise.

As far as the Superman Prime/Annataz thing goes, that just seems like bad writing, imho.

In any case, neither of those incidents would ever happen to Living Tribunal.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The Gog thing was valid, imo. Just like any character, Mxy has his highs and lows, and World's Funnest is undoubtedly his highest feat ever (easily the highest feat in the history of feats). The Gog thing makes sense to me simply because his staff was borrowing from multiple sources of power. Add that to the fact that Mxy simply doesn't operate on that scale of power regularly and there really shouldn't any big deal about it. It's canon, sure, but also an extremely high end feat that, imo, doesn't portray Mxy as he's commonly portrayed power wise.

As far as the Superman Prime/Annataz thing goes, that just seems like bad writing, imho.

In any case, neither of those incidents would ever happen to Living Tribunal. I see why you'd say that but I count everything if I believe it to be canon. I lump it all together and don't scoff at someone saying Wolverine cut King Thor. I welcome anything canon coming my way just like my opponents should expect the same.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see why you'd say that but I count everything if I believe it to be canon. I lump it all together and don't scoff at someone saying Wolverine cut King Thor. I welcome anything canon coming my way just like my opponents should expect the same.

Oh, I count that they did happen and acknowledge them as canon, but I also have my own opinions concerning the validity of them and whether or not they're bad writing or veering into PIS territory, which is all, at the end of the day, subjective to personal preference.

Generally, you have to find a fine line between writer intent, feats, statements, portrayals, fights, and whatnot to get a good sense of where a character stands. Relying exclusive on one aspect does no one any favors, imo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Oh, I count that they did happen and acknowledge them as canon, but I also have my own opinions concerning the validity of them and whether or not they're bad writing or veering into PIS territory, which is all, at the end of the day, subjective to personal preference.

Generally, you have to find a fine line between writer intent, feats, statements, portrayals, fights, and whatnot to get a good sense of where a character stands. Relying exclusive on one aspect does no one any favors, imo. I don't rely on one showing but to show a weakness I definitely use them. I wouldn't argue Dr. Strange consistently depowers Mxy based on the Annataz showing.

As far as the Gog thing goes, the blast blew a hole through his stomach but Mxy was ultimately fine.

Originally posted by Cogito
As far as the Gog thing goes, the blast blew a hole through his stomach but Mxy was ultimately fine. He died and returned to his dimension. That's a forum loss.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He died and returned to his dimension. That's a forum loss.

Good thing it wasn't a forum fight, then

I haven't read the issue, but as I understand it Reed BFR'd the LT's M-Body, which should constitute a forum loss.

BTW don't worry, you're still on ignore.

wonder how powerful those m-bodies are

damm shame knightmare6.com went under

excellent answer to mine

Originally posted by Cogito
Good thing it wasn't a forum fight, then

I haven't read the issue, but as I understand it Reed BFR'd the LT's M-Body, which should constitute a forum loss.

BTW don't worry, you're still on ignore. He didn't come back so it was a loss. Lt wasn't oneshotted through his chest so it isn't the same thing.

Originally posted by Cogito

but as I understand it Reed BFR'd the LT's M-Body
Reed didn't do anything to the LT directly.

The LT and most of the other hierarchal members
combined their power in a ball of energy,
this energy'e
s purpose was to erase an alternate Galactus

(because as we know the LT needs help to off an alternate Galactus)

Anyway, while the LT & Cosmics are concentrating their power into a single point,
Reed uses a Canon which took him 20 years to build that was made to erase Galactus,
Reed shoots the Canon at the concentrated combination of LT's and the Cosmic's power,
this causes a feedback (of their own power) and bfr's all of them to another reality.

This shit story hasn't been recognized in any Handbook including the 2008 - 2011 editions.
I've looked in all possible relevant files, yet, nothing.

I always doubted it's canonicity even as an alternate reality, even concerning the LT.

Originally posted by Cogito
I haven't read the issue, but as I understand it Reed BFR'd the LT's M-Body, which should constitute a forum loss. He did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have never liked tacos. Explains a lot.

Originally posted by Mindset
Explains a lot. The only good fast food mexican is chipolte.

Racist.

Originally posted by Mindset
Racist. Takes one to know one.

I don't know you.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't know you. You're dead to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I always doubted it's canonicity even as an alternate reality, even concerning the LT.

As there's only one LT in all of Marvel, all of his appearances are canon to him, regardless of whether the event is written in handbooks or not

Originally posted by Cogito
As there's only one LT in all of Marvel, all of his appearances are canon to him, regardless of whether the event is written in handbooks or not That's ridiculous. That means all crossovers are canon when they clearly are not. LOL.

mc2 isn't canon

let me tweet the writer of that awful bull****

Originally posted by guy222
mc2 isn't canon

let me tweet the writer of that awful bull****

I can't believe the things that come out of some of these keyboards. I'm third party embarrassed for them.

Originally posted by Cogito
As there's only one LT in all of Marvel, all of his appearances are canon to him, regardless of whether the event is written in handbooks or not Correct. MC2 (designated Earth-982) was recognized as a canon alternate universe in the 2005 OHOTMU: Alternate Universes Guide:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/11663461_6581267.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/11663462_6319955.jpg

Therefore, LT's appearances in said universe are canon to him. Unquestionable.

Originally posted by Cogito

As there's only one LT in all of Marvel,
all of his appearances are canon to him,
regardless of whether the event is written in handbooks or not
That's your opinion friend.

Fact is ...

I've yet to see any reference
of what transpired in that horse shit of a story in any Handbook (on paper or online)

On top of that, LT's bio makes no mention of the events in that story,
yet even "What if" Korvac is covered.

LT has 3 bios that proceeded the MC2 story

(Handbooks = 2006 & 2010 update)

(Marvel.com's refreshed 2011 bio)

Yet everything else the LT ever did on panel, even talking to Mephisto with no action involved,
is referenced,
but not even the slightest of peeps concerning this MC2 garbage.

(including the MC2 alternate universe Handbook)

Nothing.

Go figure.

-----------------------------------

Anyway, who gives a shit about any of this,
Reed did nothing to the LT directly.

Although it is funny when people who even have the issue pump the same fallacies.

What about that 2005 guide scan that was just posted?

Originally posted by Endless Mike

What about that 2005 guide scan that was just posted?
There's no mention whatsoever of the LT ever being there,
or having anything to do with that reality,

In fact, not a single word (literally) is mentioned about "Last Planet Standing"
or anything at all that took place with in.

That goes for LT's 2006 Handbook, or his 2010 Handbook updated bio,
or any official/unofficial online bio site. (including LT's 2011 updated Marvel site)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Although it is funny when people who even have the issue pump the same fallacies. It's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours." He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.

Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663644_r1.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663645_r2.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663646_r3.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663647_r4.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663648_r5.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663649_r6.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no mention whatsoever of the LT ever being there,
or having anything to do with that reality,

In fact, not a single word (literally) is mentioned about "Last Planet Standing"
or anything at all that took place with in.

That goes for LT's 2006 Handbook, or his 2010 Handbook updated bio,
or any official/unofficial online bio site. (including LT's 2011 updated Marvel site) ...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME universe.

Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe (both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the multiverse simultaneously, etc.

But yeah, doesn't really matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours." He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.

Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663644_r1.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663645_r2.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663646_r3.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663647_r4.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663648_r5.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11663649_r6.jpg

...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME universe.

Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe (both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the multiverse simultaneously, etc.

But yeah, doesn't really matter. yeah i think i agree.

per marvel, lt is omnipresent and exists in all universes in all multiverses at the same time.

per marvel, mc2 is a legit alternate universe within the multiverse. they even gave it a numerical designation.

the only logical conclusion is that lt being owned (and i hate using that term) by reeds gun is a canon showing for him. just because bios don't mention that particular event doesn't make it non canon.... it still took place in a universe that marvel had already deemed canon, afterall. its really a simple matter of 1+1.

^ = My sentiments as well. I can't think of a character (no matter how powerful) that doesn't have a low feat of SOME kind. Not really that big of a deal.

Anyway, I believe Mxy as he was portrayed during WF would defeat LT. Imo, LT's judgement/divine powa would be slapped aside just like Spectre was... Which certainly isn't a jab at LT--Mxy simply had no limitations in that story (a fact he proved multiple times.)

Spectre is a pos though.

^ More recently, yeah. Back then he was a boss on par with Doom/Kyle/Gannicus/etc.

Gannicus oneshotted Spectre in their only encounter.

Spectre>Spartacus>Gannicus. biscuits

Gannicus > Spectracus

Originally posted by Galan007

It's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT
with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours."
He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.

Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
Exactly, and the scans never show Reed owning the LT in any way shape or form.

It only shows Reed blasting his canon into the ball of concentrated power
belonging to the LT and the hierarchy,
which then caused a feedback that bfr'd the Cosmics.

The LT & Cosmics weren't even hit by the canon blast,
and they never even saw it coming which is more comedy for this donkey shit story.

Look, although this story is obviously a joke,
at-least fooling around I'd say Reed affected the LT had Reed attacked the LT's person,
and even better had Reed actually attacked a "ready" LT.

Not this MC2 LT who can't even sense Reed's canon,
yet the same LT senses everything that's going on in the Multiverse simultaneously. durlaugh
Originally posted by Galan007

...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the
universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in
an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in
said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was
published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't
canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME
universe.

Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially
recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe
(both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the
multiverse simultaneously, etc.
The LT's bio, in the Handbook Update edition of 2010 is nearly identical to the 2006 bio,
with the addition of his 2007 She-Hulk appearances,
and his three 2010-2011 appearances (Chaos War - Mighty World of Marvel and Avengers Academy)

The LT's bio in the "Thanos Sourcebook" ... 2011
(another source of bios strictly for cosmics)
again,
nothing mentioned concerning anything involving "LPS."

**
So, everything the LT every did on panel (even just talk)
is referenced in detail in all his bios,
except what took place in Last Planet Standing,
which doesn't even have a hint of ever being.

Coincidence?

Where talking to Mephisto is referenced but not a major cosmic ordeal like the one in LPS?

hm

Originally posted by Mindset
Gannicus > Spectracus Phuck you. ermmnone

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not this MC2 LT who can't even sense Reed's canon,
yet the same LT senses everything that's going on in the Multiverse simultaneously. durlaugh

The LT's bio, in the Handbook Update edition of 2010 is nearly identical to the 2006 bio,
with the addition of his 2007 She-Hulk appearances,
and his three 2010-2011 appearances (Chaos War - Mighty World of Marvel and Avengers Academy)

The LT's bio in the "Thanos Sourcebook" ... 2011
(another source of bios strictly for cosmics)
again,
nothing mentioned concerning anything involving "LPS."

**
So, everything the LT every did on panel (even just talk)
is referenced in detail in all his bios,
except what took place in Last Planet Standing,
which doesn't even have a hint of ever being.

Coincidence?

Where talking to Mephisto is referenced but not a major cosmic ordeal like the one in LPS
hm Plz tell me you're not saying that the events of LPS are non-canon, even though they took place in the MC2 universe, which has been confirmed as a canon alternate universe by Marvel..? I hope not, because that would really be... Something.

Anyway, MC2 is a canon Marvel universe. Fact. There is only one LT, and he exists in all universes of the multiverse simultaneously. Fact. That said, logic dictates that LT's showing(s) in LPS are canon to him. An event not being mentioned in bios doesn't make it automatically non-canon by default. Just my opinion on the matter.

Originally posted by Galan007

Plz tell me you're not saying that the events of LPS are non-canon, even
though they took place in the MC2 universe, which has been confirmed as a
canon alternate universe by Marvel..? I hope not, because that would really
be... Something.
If you're reading my posts you'd know I've never said that.

Although it is a fact that LT has only so many appearances,
and they're all mentioned in his bio in the 2010 Handbook update edition,
they're also referenced in his bio within the Thanos Sourcebook (handbook solely for cosmics across the board)
Marvel.com's 2011 refresh of LT's bio shares this stance.

Yet, not a word about the LPS story.

It makes sense to overlook this nonsense
when the bio writer has to include the reason behind the LT appearing at all,
which was,
to join forces with the Cosmic hierarchy to take out a single alternate Galactus?

That's just my opinion, but I can see why the handbook writers would run from this.

It's out of character.

It's like Spiderman being stronger than the Hulk in a story for no reason at all.

Senseless.
Originally posted by Galan007

Anyway, MC2 is a canon Marvel universe. Fact. There is only one LT, and
he exists in all universes of the multiverse simultaneously. Fact. That said,
logic dictates that LT's showing(s) in LPS are canon to him. An event not
being mentioned in bios doesn't make it automatically non-canon by default.
Just my opinion on the matter.
But we have to realize this story takes the LT out of character,
and depowers him severely, and in fact is nothing like the LT is supposed to be.

It's also highly stipulated.

In order for Reed's feat to work again,
the LT has to gather the rest of the hierarchy,
they have to huddle and combine their powers in a ball of energy,
while the LT & Cosmics are distracted with the merging of their powers
then Reed fires the canon at the ball of energy from miles away
which they somehow never see coming.

Just sayin, imo, this particular story should have no bearing on LT's history,
because this is definitely (for several reasons) not the LT that's supposed to be beneath TOAA.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you're reading my posts you'd know I've never said that. Good. Just making sure.

...Didn't figure you were that wacky.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just sayin, imo, this particular story should have no bearing on LT's history,
because this is definitely (for several reasons) not the LT that's supposed to be beneath TOAA. It's still a canon showing for LT, because it took place in a canon Marvel universe. It's called "a bad feat." Every character (no matter how powerful/divine) has them. EVERY character. However, said showing certainly doesn't outweigh the rest of LT's extensive history showcasing him as the top dog in Marvel--just like Mxy getting a hole blasted through him by Gog doesn't outweigh the rest of his remarkable feats (destroying/recreating DC in its entirety, for instance.) PIS might be canon at times, but it's still PIS.

People who only try to use a single low-end feat against a character, as though it somehow trumps the dozens of other high-end feats that character has, are nothing but biased idiots. Plain and simple.

And to be fair to LT...it's Reed f*ckin Richards. One of his powers is unofficially creating shit to beat people and odds he shouldn't be able to beat...usually on the fly.

LT still

Great points by all here

Remember nimcompoops its always the Writers write Editors will edit if they see fit

Originally posted by Galan007

People who only try to use a single low-end feat against a character, as though it somehow trumps the dozens of other high-end feats that character has, are nothing but biased idiots. Plain and simple. Just like people who fall back on one high end showing are clearly biased fools as well. It goes both ways.

Do we get to see what happens to LT and Co after they got hit by Reeds Gun? Or do the story in regards to LT and Co simply ends there?

i simply forgot the sillyness of that and its written by one of my favorite idiot writers mr. defalco

thank goodness he left marvel

anyhoo, how are u ut

Originally posted by Utrigita
Do we get to see what happens to LT and Co after they got hit by Reeds Gun? Or do the story in regards to LT and Co simply ends there? That was the whole scene, from beginning to end. As Reed commented on: his gun effectively beat/BFR'd the cosmics for "a few measly hours"--which was long enough to buy them the time they needed.

I agree on the bfr. (with stipulations)
I wouldn't say Reed "beat" the Cosmics though friend,
they weren't even fighting him, they didn't even notice him,
and he never attacked any of them directly.

It was a sneak attack (impossible as that is)
and the stipulation stands where the LT & Cosmics have to combine their own powers
in order for this nonsense to work.

We have to understand this.

A thread cannot be made (even if we consider this a "low" showing for LT)
suggesting Reed has a Canon that can affect any Hierarchal Cosmic especially the LT.

Because without said stipulation,
(Cosmics combine powers and allow Reed the first hit while they stand defenseless)
this feat with no evidence/info to suggest otherwise doesn't work.

So Reed Canon < LT and or hierarchal Cosmics (it was designed to kill big G at best)

but Reed Canon + LT's & hierarchal Cosmic's powers combine = (can bfr) LT

Originally posted by Utrigita

Do we get to see what happens to LT and Co after they got hit by Reeds Gun?

LT & Cosmics never got hit by Reed's gun.

A concentrated ball of energy (which was their powers combined) was what Reed hit.

This caused the feedback and their own powers bfr'd them out of that reality.

* note *

Reed never knew what was going to happen exactly until it happened,
the Canon was not meant/created to attack high end Cosmics.

He's lucky the stipulation was in place for this silliness to work.

^ Yeah, I use the word "beat" very timidly.

Anyway, Reed's gun was able to own the energies of LT+every cosmic being in the hierarchy. LT's energies+those of every cosmic in the hierarchy>LT's energies alone. If Reed's gun could affect the former, it should logically be able to affect the latter as well... And even easier, I'd think. /shrug

I was under the impression that what Reeds gun hit was the Wormhole that the Cosmic generated. But *shrug*