Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama debate

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Mairuzu
haermm

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inimalist
much less effective than that "if I wanted to destroy America" thing

Mairuzu
Effective towards what?

You mean you actually support one of these two candidates and this video is less effective towards making you not want to support them anymore?

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Mairuzu
You mean you actually support one of these two candidates and this video is less effective towards making you not want to support them anymore?
This sentence is a trainwreck.

Mairuzu
Not really stoned

You're just trying to give me more attention. 131

Robtard
Is the answer "Ron Paul! Ron Paul!"?

Mairuzu
Was there a question?

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Not really stoned

You're just trying to give me more attention. 131
Yes really.

What you asked ini made no sense.

Mairuzu
Well he said it was much less effective than the other video but I was confused as to what he meant.

Effective towards what? What is the video trying to do? From what I can tell, it shows that Mitt and Obama are very similar in their policies. I assume that the only thing this video can really effect is someones view on which candidate to choose from... so I asked Ini if he is in favor of one of these candidates. If he is, then is he referring to this video be less effective towards him not wanting to support them?

Makes sense when you use your brain. stoned

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Well he said it was much less effective than the other video but I was confused as to what he meant.

Effective towards what? What is the video trying to do? From what I can tell, it shows that Mitt and Obama are very similar in their policies. I assume that the only thing this video can really effect is someones view on which candidate to choose from... so I asked Ini if he is in favor of one of these candidates. If he is, then is he referring to this video be less effective towards him not wanting to support them?
If you'd have paid attention to any post that ini ever made here on any political topic you'd see he's not a supporter of either.

inimalist
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Effective towards what?

less effective as a piece of media

its uninteresting, boring, drawn out, the music doesn't fit, the format doesn't take advantage of the fact it is a video, etc.

Like, I could give you a critique of it, but that sort of feels like nit picking. Considering how tech savvy Paul's followers are, and the general high quality of the propaganda of his that is normally made, this was a low mark imho.

The commercials he did with the like animated letters were incredibly effective, as a comparison. The "If I wanted..." video, while inane, was an effective at keeping people's eyeballs. This, while making a point, doesn't draw me in at all.

EDIT:

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this one, I found this very effective as a piece of media

Mairuzu
Originally posted by inimalist
less effective as a piece of media

its uninteresting, boring, drawn out, the music doesn't fit, the format doesn't take advantage of the fact it is a video, etc.

Like, I could give you a critique of it, but that sort of feels like nit picking. Considering how tech savvy Paul's followers are, and the general high quality of the propaganda of his that is normally made, this was a low mark imho.

The commercials he did with the like animated letters were incredibly effective, as a comparison. The "If I wanted..." video, while inane, was an effective at keeping people's eyeballs. This, while making a point, doesn't draw me in at all.



They've done many Obama/Romney comparison videos, I wouldn't say all of them are from Paul supporters though. I guess I don't worry too much about the music and format, just the quotes. It isnt all that boring to me concidering the message.

Can't blame grass roots supporters from doing what the can with what they can work with. Again, only a drop in the pool of information stoned

Its not like it was professionally done by the campaign. stick out tongue

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you'd have paid attention to any post that ini ever made here on any political topic you'd see he's not a supporter of either.

Oh my bad man! Lol



Edit: I think I liked the other imagine speech better. Wasn't fond of the guys voice.

Edit2: Nvm that was the "What if" speech with metalica stick out tongue

inimalist
Originally posted by Mairuzu
They've done many Obama/Romney comparison videos, I wouldn't say all of them are from Paul supporters though. I guess I don't worry too much about the music and format, just the quotes. It isnt all that boring to me concidering the message.

Fair enough, I can't honestly say it was all that revealing to me, as the overlap between Republican and Democratic policies is one of those weird elephants in the room nobody really talks about too often, so hearing the quotes to prove it really don't hold me. My attention span is also all of 4 seconds.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Can't blame grass roots supporters from doing what the can with what they can work with. Again, only a drop in the pool of information stoned

Its not like it was professionally done by the campaign. stick out tongue

sure, not blaming anyone. I certainly can't make a better video than that... (my soundtrack would kick ass though)

Mairuzu
The music was pretty shit

inimalist
Originally posted by Mairuzu
so I asked Ini if he is in favor of one of these candidates.

I wasn't going to say anything about this, but I do actually want to clarify a couple things about who and why I support in the 2012 election.

So like, I may have reservations about some of Paul's specific policies (renegotiating civil rights for instance) or about Paul's beliefs as an individual with regard to minorities, gays or conpiricism, but overall his views are the closest to mine of any candidate. I'm sure I've said this before, but I think the worst part about a Paul presidency is that there is no real opposition in American politics that would oppose him on the ground that government can and should intervene to improve individual's conditions. Not that I think this ideology (or any) should be able to dominate Paul's policies, just that, no singular ideology will work, especially a radical one like Paul's brand of libertarianism.

So really, if we could export our NDP party to America to be a vocal and powerful opposition to extreme libertarianism, I'd say a Paul presidency may be incredibly successful, because it would force compromise on issues where it is likely that libertarianism goes too far toward individual responsibility. The way I see it, the Democrats are just too weak, and the Republicans too likely to just play the political power game to ever balance things properly.

Buddy Roamer actually appealed to me, but that may be because he was on Colbert smile. idk, I'd take lesser evil (Obama) if forced to choose, but the field looks entirely uninspiring for November.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Omega Vision
What you asked ini made no sense.

It made sense to me.

I can explain it if you want me to: I am good at helping others make sense to others (lol).

Omega Vision
Originally posted by dadudemon
It made sense to me.

I can explain it if you want me to: I am good at helping others make sense to others (lol).
I don't speak stoner...or Mormon.

Aber ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch. estahuh

Mairuzu
Its just lazy English stick out tongue



Originally posted by inimalist
I wasn't going to say anything about this, but I do actually want to clarify a couple things about who and why I support in the 2012 election.

So like, I may have reservations about some of Paul's specific policies (renegotiating civil rights for instance) or about Paul's beliefs as an individual with regard to minorities, gays or conpiricism, but overall his views are the closest to mine of any candidate. I'm sure I've said this before, but I think the worst part about a Paul presidency is that there is no real opposition in American politics that would oppose him on the ground that government can and should intervene to improve individual's conditions. Not that I think this ideology (or any) should be able to dominate Paul's policies, just that, no singular ideology will work, especially a radical one like Paul's brand of libertarianism.

So really, if we could export our NDP party to America to be a vocal and powerful opposition to extreme libertarianism, I'd say a Paul presidency may be incredibly successful, because it would force compromise on issues where it is likely that libertarianism goes too far toward individual responsibility. The way I see it, the Democrats are just too weak, and the Republicans too likely to just play the political power game to ever balance things properly.

Buddy Roamer actually appealed to me, but that may be because he was on Colbert smile. idk, I'd take lesser evil (Obama) if forced to choose, but the field looks entirely uninspiring for November.

Roamer is good as well, has a pretty outspoken attitude too, he just didn't get much support. As well as Gary Johnson on the libertarian ticket.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't speak stoner...or Mormon.

Aber ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch. estahuh

With a mouth like that, I swear ... I'll baptize you so fast you'll think I'm a baptist. haermm

BackFire
Obama in 7 games.

Oh wait, sorry. Too much NHL playoffs for me.

Omega Vision
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/us/politics/joe-biden-criticizes-mitt-romney-as-weak-on-foreign-policy.html?src=recg




Apparently Romney supporters think we're back in the late 80s.

Robtard
The Cold War never ended, it just got colder.

Also, I always thought "The Soviets" make for a much better arch enemy to the US than terrorist.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Robtard
The Cold War never ended, it just got colder.

Also, I always thought "The Soviets" make for a much better arch enemy to the US than terrorist.

But not as good as the Nazis.

BTW This election is really all about Obama and his failure.

Robtard
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But not as good as the Nazis.

BTW This election is really all about Obama and his failure.

Correct, Nazis do make the better villains, something we learned with Indiana Jones 4.

Nah, it's all about how the foundation has been laid and now in the next four years everything Obama that is good and just can/will come to fruition. IE, a typical second-term presidential campaign platform.

Bouboumaster
BO will pimpslap MR like there's no tomorrow.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
BTW This election is really all about Obama and his failure.

Very well said, sir. thumb up

I agree. That's what this election comes down to: are Obama's failures enough to oust him or were his successes enough to warrant another term?

Mairuzu
Or, are people smart enough to even realize he's been failing instead of being a bunch of dumb liberal ****s?


Originally posted by Bouboumaster
BO will pimpslap MR like there's no tomorrow.

They both agree with eachother.

Robtard
The US Communist Party has endorsed Obama for the 2012 campaign.

Go with it.

Darth Truculent
Well Obama is a socialist so it only makes sense that the damn commies would back him.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Well Obama is a socialist so it only makes sense that the damn commies would back him.

Question: do you support the local police, fire department, medicare, medicaid, and/or social security?

KidRock
They are both absolutely retarded.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Well Obama is a socialist so it only makes sense that the damn commies would back him.
Obama is NOT a socialist.

If he were I might actually respect him.

Not that I disrespect him, I just kind of...neutral him.

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